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Wales needs no-take marine zones | Kerry Lewis | TEDxAberystwyth


hi folks so my name is Carrie Lewis and

hi folks so my name is Carrie Lewis and I am a lecturer here at marasmus I teach

I am a lecturer here at marasmus I teach

I am a lecturer here at marasmus I teach in the law school and before I was a

in the law school and before I was a

in the law school and before I was a lawyer I worked as an environmental

lawyer I worked as an environmental

lawyer I worked as an environmental solicitor sorry ok I lived in this city

solicitor sorry ok I lived in this city

solicitor sorry ok I lived in this city for quite a long time it turns out that

for quite a long time it turns out that

for quite a long time it turns out that that didn’t really suit me very well I’m

that didn’t really suit me very well I’m

that didn’t really suit me very well I’m not a city dweller and after I’d

not a city dweller and after I’d

not a city dweller and after I’d qualified to the solicitor I ran away I

qualified to the solicitor I ran away I

qualified to the solicitor I ran away I left and I went to Mexico and I’d

left and I went to Mexico and I’d

left and I went to Mexico and I’d realized that I’ve been spending more

realized that I’ve been spending more

realized that I’ve been spending more and more time going away weekends and so

and more time going away weekends and so

and more time going away weekends and so on and I realized that where I wanted to

on and I realized that where I wanted to

on and I realized that where I wanted to be was on the coast so I went to Mexico

be was on the coast so I went to Mexico

be was on the coast so I went to Mexico and I did what was my first marine

and I did what was my first marine

and I did what was my first marine conservation project I learned about how

conservation project I learned about how

conservation project I learned about how to serve a coral reef I also spent some

to serve a coral reef I also spent some

to serve a coral reef I also spent some time monitoring turtle nests which was

time monitoring turtle nests which was

time monitoring turtle nests which was really exciting going out in the middle

really exciting going out in the middle

really exciting going out in the middle of the night finding female turtles

of the night finding female turtles

of the night finding female turtles nesting and then monitoring those nest

nesting and then monitoring those nest

nesting and then monitoring those nest until then hatchlings came out and

until then hatchlings came out and

until then hatchlings came out and making sure that as many as possible the

making sure that as many as possible the

making sure that as many as possible the other thing we did in Mexico was

other thing we did in Mexico was

other thing we did in Mexico was crocodile nesting surveys in these

crocodile nesting surveys in these

crocodile nesting surveys in these mangroves which basically involved

mangroves which basically involved

mangroves which basically involved clamming of clambering around through

clamming of clambering around through

clamming of clambering around through mangrove roots trying to find crocodile

mangrove roots trying to find crocodile

mangrove roots trying to find crocodile nest

nest

nest I found this slightly anxiety provoking

I found this slightly anxiety provoking

I found this slightly anxiety provoking and when I asked what I’m supposed to do

and when I asked what I’m supposed to do

and when I asked what I’m supposed to do if I found a crocodile I was told run

if I found a crocodile I was told run

if I found a crocodile I was told run zig zag I don’t think that was

zig zag I don’t think that was

zig zag I don’t think that was particularly safe way of going about

particularly safe way of going about

particularly safe way of going about things but that was what we did anyway

things but that was what we did anyway

things but that was what we did anyway and at the end of this project at the

and at the end of this project at the

and at the end of this project at the end of my volunteering I was actually

end of my volunteering I was actually

end of my volunteering I was actually invited to stay on and work there but a

invited to stay on and work there but a

invited to stay on and work there but a very strange thing happened and I said

very strange thing happened and I said

very strange thing happened and I said no and I decided to come home and I

no and I decided to come home and I

no and I decided to come home and I think what was happening was that I had

think what was happening was that I had

think what was happening was that I had a thing called here Ike this sense of

a thing called here Ike this sense of

a thing called here Ike this sense of longing and wanting to come back and

longing and wanting to come back and

longing and wanting to come back and come back to where I’d grown up and I

come back to where I’d grown up and I

come back to where I’d grown up and I had this idea that I didn’t need

had this idea that I didn’t need

had this idea that I didn’t need actually to go to the other side of the

actually to go to the other side of the

actually to go to the other side of the world to find things that were really

world to find things that were really

world to find things that were really special there were special things right

special there were special things right

special there were special things right on my dolls

on my dolls

on my dolls so I came back to Pembrokeshire and I

so I came back to Pembrokeshire and I

so I came back to Pembrokeshire and I got involved with various diving

got involved with various diving

got involved with various diving projects

projects

projects so most of diving I do is found in

so most of diving I do is found in

so most of diving I do is found in Pembrokeshire I do not photography so

Pembrokeshire I do not photography so

Pembrokeshire I do not photography so these are some of my favorite things

these are some of my favorite things

these are some of my favorite things like being the water these are sea slugs

like being the water these are sea slugs

like being the water these are sea slugs and they’re very interesting they’re

and they’re very interesting they’re

and they’re very interesting they’re very pretty they’re very little so it’s

very pretty they’re very little so it’s

very pretty they’re very little so it’s very exciting when you find one because

very exciting when you find one because

very exciting when you find one because they’re really difficult to find but

they’re really difficult to find but

they’re really difficult to find but they’re also quite interesting they can

they’re also quite interesting they can

they’re also quite interesting they can tell us in a sense that there are lots

tell us in a sense that there are lots

tell us in a sense that there are lots of other things if we see lots of

of other things if we see lots of

of other things if we see lots of different sea slugs we know that we’re

different sea slugs we know that we’re

different sea slugs we know that we’re seeing lots of other things in water

seeing lots of other things in water

seeing lots of other things in water because every sea slug is adapted to eat

because every sea slug is adapted to eat

because every sea slug is adapted to eat a very particular species and they have

a very particular species and they have

a very particular species and they have these funny little they’re called Raja

these funny little they’re called Raja

these funny little they’re called Raja bet they have these tongues which are

bet they have these tongues which are

bet they have these tongues which are adapted to eat a very particular species

adapted to eat a very particular species

adapted to eat a very particular species so if you see a sea slug you know that

so if you see a sea slug you know that

so if you see a sea slug you know that the food eats must also be there these

the food eats must also be there these

the food eats must also be there these pictures are all taken in the waters of

pictures are all taken in the waters of

pictures are all taken in the waters of ants going on there over the years

ants going on there over the years

ants going on there over the years they’ve recorded over 60 species of sea

they’ve recorded over 60 species of sea

they’ve recorded over 60 species of sea slug just around sunrise and one of the

slug just around sunrise and one of the

slug just around sunrise and one of the projects that I participate in is called

projects that I participate in is called

projects that I participate in is called sea search it’s run by the Marine

sea search it’s run by the Marine

sea search it’s run by the Marine Conservation Society and it trains

Conservation Society and it trains

Conservation Society and it trains divers to go out and basically collect

divers to go out and basically collect

divers to go out and basically collect habitat data and collect species data so

habitat data and collect species data so

habitat data and collect species data so that that can go into the central

that that can go into the central

that that can go into the central database called marine recorder and we

database called marine recorder and we

database called marine recorder and we can find out more about what is

can find out more about what is

can find out more about what is happening what there is out there in our

happening what there is out there in our

happening what there is out there in our oceans this photograph is of a red

oceans this photograph is of a red

oceans this photograph is of a red blenny and it’s a fish that is not

blenny and it’s a fish that is not

blenny and it’s a fish that is not particularly rare but actually until I

particularly rare but actually until I

particularly rare but actually until I saw that at the smalls lighthouse just

saw that at the smalls lighthouse just

saw that at the smalls lighthouse just off the coast of Pembrokeshire last year

off the coast of Pembrokeshire last year

off the coast of Pembrokeshire last year it had never been seen in Wales now

it had never been seen in Wales now

it had never been seen in Wales now that’s not to say that anything has

that’s not to say that anything has

that’s not to say that anything has changed it’s not to say that it’s an

changed it’s not to say that it’s an

changed it’s not to say that it’s an indicator of global warming or any of

indicator of global warming or any of

indicator of global warming or any of those things it simply shows that

those things it simply shows that

those things it simply shows that there’s an awful lot we don’t know

there’s an awful lot we don’t know

there’s an awful lot we don’t know it lives been very exposed areas so

it lives been very exposed areas so

it lives been very exposed areas so areas but it difficult to get to areas

areas but it difficult to get to areas

areas but it difficult to get to areas that it’s not easy to dive in and there

that it’s not easy to dive in and there

that it’s not easy to dive in and there were all sorts of things that we still

were all sorts of things that we still

were all sorts of things that we still have to learn about the ocean I also

have to learn about the ocean I also

have to learn about the ocean I also find that lots of really fascinating

find that lots of really fascinating

find that lots of really fascinating things this little rod of jelly is a sea

things this little rod of jelly is a sea

things this little rod of jelly is a sea squirt

squirt

squirt what I find incredible about this is

what I find incredible about this is

what I find incredible about this is that it’s a chordate that means it’s in

that it’s a chordate that means it’s in

that it’s a chordate that means it’s in the same group of animals that we are as

the same group of animals that we are as

the same group of animals that we are as humans this tiny little blob of jelly

humans this tiny little blob of jelly

humans this tiny little blob of jelly and in its larval stage it has the

and in its larval stage it has the

and in its larval stage it has the beginnings of a notochord which in

beginnings of a notochord which in

beginnings of a notochord which in humans and yeah if this tiny little blow

humans and yeah if this tiny little blow

humans and yeah if this tiny little blow of jelly that just sits there on the

of jelly that just sits there on the

of jelly that just sits there on the rock looking not particularly special I

rock looking not particularly special I

rock looking not particularly special I call this one in a delicate moment that

call this one in a delicate moment that

call this one in a delicate moment that one is having a poo the other project I

one is having a poo the other project I

one is having a poo the other project I work with volunteer is not its net genes

work with volunteer is not its net genes

work with volunteer is not its net genes Army’s rubbish collectors and it’s a

Army’s rubbish collectors and it’s a

Army’s rubbish collectors and it’s a group of divers who spend time again

group of divers who spend time again

group of divers who spend time again around the coast of temperature

around the coast of temperature

around the coast of temperature collecting ghost fishing gear so every

collecting ghost fishing gear so every

collecting ghost fishing gear so every year all sorts of fishing gear is lost

year all sorts of fishing gear is lost

year all sorts of fishing gear is lost through no fault of the fisherman is

through no fault of the fisherman is

through no fault of the fisherman is just out there at sea and it’s an

just out there at sea and it’s an

just out there at sea and it’s an indication of the pressures that are

indication of the pressures that are

indication of the pressures that are facing the marine environment so this is

facing the marine environment so this is

facing the marine environment so this is just an example but there are all sorts

just an example but there are all sorts

just an example but there are all sorts of pressures facing the marine

of pressures facing the marine

of pressures facing the marine environment one of them is overfishing

environment one of them is overfishing

environment one of them is overfishing current estimates reports are suggesting

current estimates reports are suggesting

current estimates reports are suggesting that 85 percent of the world’s fisheries

that 85 percent of the world’s fisheries

that 85 percent of the world’s fisheries are at or beyond safe ecological limits

are at or beyond safe ecological limits

are at or beyond safe ecological limits for fishing and now the pressure is

for fishing and now the pressure is

for fishing and now the pressure is marine plastics there are reports at the

marine plastics there are reports at the

marine plastics there are reports at the moment they’re suggesting that by 2050

moment they’re suggesting that by 2050

moment they’re suggesting that by 2050 there will be more plastic in the ocean

there will be more plastic in the ocean

there will be more plastic in the ocean by weight than fish it’s terrifying

by weight than fish it’s terrifying

by weight than fish it’s terrifying another pressure obviously is climate

another pressure obviously is climate

another pressure obviously is climate change the seas are warming and as the

change the seas are warming and as the

change the seas are warming and as the temperature goes up so does the

temperature goes up so does the

temperature goes up so does the ecosystem change so do the habitats

ecosystem change so do the habitats

ecosystem change so do the habitats change that these animals are trying to

change that these animals are trying to

change that these animals are trying to surviving but all of these things happen

surviving but all of these things happen

surviving but all of these things happen very gradually they’re not immediate

very gradually they’re not immediate

very gradually they’re not immediate they don’t happen rapidly and what

they don’t happen rapidly and what

they don’t happen rapidly and what happens is because they happen so

happens is because they happen so

happens is because they happen so gradually it creates a kind of new

gradually it creates a kind of new

gradually it creates a kind of new normal and it means that as time changes

normal and it means that as time changes

normal and it means that as time changes and as generations move on the baseline

and as generations move on the baseline

and as generations move on the baseline shift

shift

shift and what we think of is normal changes

and what we think of is normal changes

and what we think of is normal changes and it’s something that’s been called

and it’s something that’s been called

and it’s something that’s been called shifting baseline syndrome so that each

shifting baseline syndrome so that each

shifting baseline syndrome so that each new generation thinks that what they are

new generation thinks that what they are

new generation thinks that what they are seeing is the natural normal condition

seeing is the natural normal condition

seeing is the natural normal condition of the environment now in response to

of the environment now in response to

of the environment now in response to some of these pressures the world

some of these pressures the world

some of these pressures the world conservation Angra has suggested that we

conservation Angra has suggested that we

conservation Angra has suggested that we should be protecting more of the world’s

should be protecting more of the world’s

should be protecting more of the world’s oceans and they suggest that by 2030 we

oceans and they suggest that by 2030 we

oceans and they suggest that by 2030 we should have 30% of the oceans in fully

should have 30% of the oceans in fully

should have 30% of the oceans in fully protected marine reserves

protected marine reserves

protected marine reserves so that means areas where there is no

so that means areas where there is no

so that means areas where there is no extractive activity taking place so that

extractive activity taking place so that

extractive activity taking place so that we’re not fishing we’ve got a long way

we’re not fishing we’ve got a long way

we’re not fishing we’ve got a long way to go at the moment a little over 1% of

to go at the moment a little over 1% of

to go at the moment a little over 1% of the global oceans are protected in

the global oceans are protected in

the global oceans are protected in reserves why would we do it well it’s a

reserves why would we do it well it’s a

reserves why would we do it well it’s a response to those pressures there are

response to those pressures there are

response to those pressures there are benefits there are some of the areas

benefits there are some of the areas

benefits there are some of the areas around the world no-take zones were

around the world no-take zones were

around the world no-take zones were highly protected marine reserves and

highly protected marine reserves and

highly protected marine reserves and studies have shown that they can improve

studies have shown that they can improve

studies have shown that they can improve the populations in those areas so the

the populations in those areas so the

the populations in those areas so the animals in those areas are have better

animals in those areas are have better

animals in those areas are have better breeding success the individuals that

breeding success the individuals that

breeding success the individuals that live in those areas are bigger they

live in those areas are bigger they

live in those areas are bigger they spread there’s a thing called overspill

spread there’s a thing called overspill

spread there’s a thing called overspill so the animals don’t stay in the area

so the animals don’t stay in the area

so the animals don’t stay in the area they don’t know where the boundary of

they don’t know where the boundary of

they don’t know where the boundary of the zone is and they will move out into

the zone is and they will move out into

the zone is and they will move out into the areas around it so they will

the areas around it so they will

the areas around it so they will increase the abundance abundance in

increase the abundance abundance in

increase the abundance abundance in which can be benefit for fishermen it

which can be benefit for fishermen it

which can be benefit for fishermen it can also be a benefit for tourism

can also be a benefit for tourism

can also be a benefit for tourism because people can come and see what

because people can come and see what

because people can come and see what this area now looks like that is doing

this area now looks like that is doing

this area now looks like that is doing so much better and it potentially could

so much better and it potentially could

so much better and it potentially could restore the baseline it could take us

restore the baseline it could take us

restore the baseline it could take us back to what the old normal used to look

back to what the old normal used to look

back to what the old normal used to look like so how are we doing in Wales well

like so how are we doing in Wales well

like so how are we doing in Wales well fantastic news by the looks of things

fantastic news by the looks of things

fantastic news by the looks of things we’ve got 50% of welsh waters that are

we’ve got 50% of welsh waters that are

we’ve got 50% of welsh waters that are protected in marine protected area

protected in marine protected area

protected in marine protected area and what we can see here all of those

and what we can see here all of those

and what we can see here all of those are all those shaded areas on that map

are all those shaded areas on that map

are all those shaded areas on that map are marine protected areas but those

are marine protected areas but those

are marine protected areas but those none of them are free from extractive

none of them are free from extractive

none of them are free from extractive activity the special areas of

activity the special areas of

activity the special areas of conservation and special protection

conservation and special protection

conservation and special protection areas that cover most of it are

areas that cover most of it are

areas that cover most of it are designated for very specific features so

designated for very specific features so

designated for very specific features so for example Cardigan Bay is a special

for example Cardigan Bay is a special

for example Cardigan Bay is a special area of conservation it’s designated to

area of conservation it’s designated to

area of conservation it’s designated to the bottom those dolphin among other

the bottom those dolphin among other

the bottom those dolphin among other things it’s also designated for some of

things it’s also designated for some of

things it’s also designated for some of its habitat but extractive activities

its habitat but extractive activities

its habitat but extractive activities are still allowed to go ahead and

are still allowed to go ahead and

are still allowed to go ahead and there’s a debate going on at the moment

there’s a debate going on at the moment

there’s a debate going on at the moment about whether we should have Golic

about whether we should have Golic

about whether we should have Golic dredging going the more alert amongst

dredging going the more alert amongst

dredging going the more alert amongst you will notice that those percentages

you will notice that those percentages

you will notice that those percentages don’t add up to 50% and that’s because

don’t add up to 50% and that’s because

don’t add up to 50% and that’s because there’s a lot of overlap the other thing

there’s a lot of overlap the other thing

there’s a lot of overlap the other thing about these areas special areas of

about these areas special areas of

about these areas special areas of conservation and special protection

conservation and special protection

conservation and special protection areas that are taking up most of the

areas that are taking up most of the

areas that are taking up most of the time most of the coverage are actually

time most of the coverage are actually

time most of the coverage are actually European sites so we’re not sure what’s

European sites so we’re not sure what’s

European sites so we’re not sure what’s going to happen to these as we leave the

going to happen to these as we leave the

going to happen to these as we leave the European Union but there’s one very

European Union but there’s one very

European Union but there’s one very special area that I want to talk to you

special area that I want to talk to you

special area that I want to talk to you about and that’s go marine conservation

about and that’s go marine conservation

about and that’s go marine conservation zone you probably can’t see it on this

zone you probably can’t see it on this

zone you probably can’t see it on this map there’s a very tiny little orange

map there’s a very tiny little orange

map there’s a very tiny little orange blob so zoomed in for you it’s been a

blob so zoomed in for you it’s been a

blob so zoomed in for you it’s been a very tiny little orange blob okay its

very tiny little orange blob okay its

very tiny little orange blob okay its 13th working on the close and it’s less

13th working on the close and it’s less

13th working on the close and it’s less than 0.1% of welsh water the designation

than 0.1% of welsh water the designation

than 0.1% of welsh water the designation of this site is slightly different than

of this site is slightly different than

of this site is slightly different than the others because it’s not designating

the others because it’s not designating

the others because it’s not designating a particular feature it’s designated for

a particular feature it’s designated for

a particular feature it’s designated for the general flora and fauna in the area

the general flora and fauna in the area

the general flora and fauna in the area it’s been protected for a long time and

it’s been protected for a long time and

it’s been protected for a long time and it’s an area where we know we’ve got a

it’s an area where we know we’ve got a

it’s an area where we know we’ve got a lot of information that’s been a lot of

lot of information that’s been a lot of

lot of information that’s been a lot of research there are lots of fire laws in

research there are lots of fire laws in

research there are lots of fire laws in place so one of the things is that there

place so one of the things is that there

place so one of the things is that there is no dredging and there is no bottom

is no dredging and there is no bottom

is no dredging and there is no bottom trawling so the seabed habitats there

trawling so the seabed habitats there

trawling so the seabed habitats there have been able to recover and we’ve been

have been able to recover and we’ve been

have been able to recover and we’ve been able to see what that means it’s also

able to see what that means it’s also

able to see what that means it’s also unlawful

unlawful

unlawful to take a scholar so if I go out diving

to take a scholar so if I go out diving

to take a scholar so if I go out diving and I come out of the water with one

and I come out of the water with one

and I come out of the water with one scholar I can be fine five thousand

scholar I can be fine five thousand

scholar I can be fine five thousand pounds and I can have all my divekick

pounds and I can have all my divekick

pounds and I can have all my divekick taken off me but it’s not a no-take

taken off me but it’s not a no-take

taken off me but it’s not a no-take saying it’s not completely free of

saying it’s not completely free of

saying it’s not completely free of extractive activity so this is a lobster

extractive activity so this is a lobster

extractive activity so this is a lobster pot it’s completely lawful that that

pot it’s completely lawful that that

pot it’s completely lawful that that lobster pot is bare and then grow at the

lobster pot is bare and then grow at the

lobster pot is bare and then grow at the side is the boy to the surface and

side is the boy to the surface and

side is the boy to the surface and there’s all sorts of angling line caught

there’s all sorts of angling line caught

there’s all sorts of angling line caught up on it angling is also allowed in the

up on it angling is also allowed in the

up on it angling is also allowed in the reserve and that starry smooth hand

reserve and that starry smooth hand

reserve and that starry smooth hand which is kind of shark has been

which is kind of shark has been

which is kind of shark has been attracted by that fishing gear that

attracted by that fishing gear that

attracted by that fishing gear that appears to be still fishing and it’s got

appears to be still fishing and it’s got

appears to be still fishing and it’s got tangled up and it’s not been able to

tangled up and it’s not been able to

tangled up and it’s not been able to leave so my buddies actually managed to

leave so my buddies actually managed to

leave so my buddies actually managed to cut free this fish and although it was

cut free this fish and although it was

cut free this fish and although it was an emaciated State it obviously been

an emaciated State it obviously been

an emaciated State it obviously been there quite a long time it actually swam

there quite a long time it actually swam

there quite a long time it actually swam free and the other thing about fishing

free and the other thing about fishing

free and the other thing about fishing gear is that when you’re dropping a

gear is that when you’re dropping a

gear is that when you’re dropping a lobster pot you can’t see where it’s

lobster pot you can’t see where it’s

lobster pot you can’t see where it’s going to land now this is a seafoam it’s

going to land now this is a seafoam it’s

going to land now this is a seafoam it’s a cool going here it’s a type of soft

a cool going here it’s a type of soft

a cool going here it’s a type of soft conical and it’s very very slow-growing

conical and it’s very very slow-growing

conical and it’s very very slow-growing it grows about ten millimeters a year

it grows about ten millimeters a year

it grows about ten millimeters a year it’s very lucky that that pot landed

it’s very lucky that that pot landed

it’s very lucky that that pot landed where it did equally if there was a

where it did equally if there was a

where it did equally if there was a strong swell it’s quite possible that

strong swell it’s quite possible that

strong swell it’s quite possible that that pot is going to knock that phone

that pot is going to knock that phone

that pot is going to knock that phone over and because it’s so delicate

over and because it’s so delicate

over and because it’s so delicate because it’s so slow growing is going to

because it’s so slow growing is going to

because it’s so slow growing is going to take a very long time to restore and if

take a very long time to restore and if

take a very long time to restore and if that’s happening all kinds of different

that’s happening all kinds of different

that’s happening all kinds of different places around the habitat these hands

places around the habitat these hands

places around the habitat these hands also support other life now this is one

also support other life now this is one

also support other life now this is one of my little mysteries this is one of my

of my little mysteries this is one of my

of my little mysteries this is one of my favorite things this is another sea slug

and this is the pink seafoam slug it

and this is the pink seafoam slug it lives on sea fans and it only eats sea

lives on sea fans and it only eats sea

lives on sea fans and it only eats sea fans but it’s weird you can dive most of

fans but it’s weird you can dive most of

fans but it’s weird you can dive most of the year and not see a slug and then at

the year and not see a slug and then at

the year and not see a slug and then at some point in maybe June they appear

some point in maybe June they appear

some point in maybe June they appear on a few of the sea fans around the

on a few of the sea fans around the

on a few of the sea fans around the reserve like they lay their eggs they

reserve like they lay their eggs they

reserve like they lay their eggs they hang out for a few weeks and then they

hang out for a few weeks and then they

hang out for a few weeks and then they disappear again

so not percent of no-take zones in Wales

so not percent of no-take zones in Wales nowhere near not even started on that

nowhere near not even started on that

nowhere near not even started on that 30% target that the World Conservation

30% target that the World Conservation

30% target that the World Conservation Congress good news we’ve got legislation

Congress good news we’ve got legislation

Congress good news we’ve got legislation in Wales that the marine and coastal

in Wales that the marine and coastal

in Wales that the marine and coastal access Act allows the designation of

access Act allows the designation of

access Act allows the designation of marine conservation zones for the

marine conservation zones for the

marine conservation zones for the general conservation of flora and fauna

general conservation of flora and fauna

general conservation of flora and fauna it doesn’t matter if this species of

it doesn’t matter if this species of

it doesn’t matter if this species of rare or threatened and the welsh

rare or threatened and the welsh

rare or threatened and the welsh ministers have got the powers if they

ministers have got the powers if they

ministers have got the powers if they choose to do so to make this a highly

choose to do so to make this a highly

choose to do so to make this a highly protected marine conservation zone and

protected marine conservation zone and

protected marine conservation zone and to create bylaws to make sure that there

to create bylaws to make sure that there

to create bylaws to make sure that there are no within that point 1 percent of

are no within that point 1 percent of

are no within that point 1 percent of welsh waters could be our first step it

welsh waters could be our first step it

welsh waters could be our first step it would contribute to a fantastically

would contribute to a fantastically

would contribute to a fantastically piece of progressive legislation and

piece of progressive legislation and

piece of progressive legislation and progressive ambition in wales that is

progressive ambition in wales that is

progressive ambition in wales that is called the well-being of future

called the well-being of future

called the well-being of future generations

generations

generations it’s got a number of bowls that we’re

it’s got a number of bowls that we’re

it’s got a number of bowls that we’re trying to achieve one of which is the

trying to achieve one of which is the

trying to achieve one of which is the resilient Wales goal

resilient Wales goal

resilient Wales goal so we’re looking for a nation which

so we’re looking for a nation which

so we’re looking for a nation which maintains and enhances a biodiversity

maintains and enhances a biodiversity

maintains and enhances a biodiversity environment it’s about trying to protect

environment it’s about trying to protect

environment it’s about trying to protect our ecosystems

our ecosystems

our ecosystems it’s forward-looking and its long-term

it’s forward-looking and its long-term

it’s forward-looking and its long-term it also would contribute to the

it also would contribute to the

it also would contribute to the principle of sustainable development

principle of sustainable development

principle of sustainable development which is in a principle an international

which is in a principle an international

which is in a principle an international law which is also enshrined in Welsh

law which is also enshrined in Welsh

law which is also enshrined in Welsh legislation and it’s about ensuring that

legislation and it’s about ensuring that

legislation and it’s about ensuring that future generations are able to meet

future generations are able to meet

future generations are able to meet their needs if we took this first step

their needs if we took this first step

their needs if we took this first step of protecting this tiny little bit of

of protecting this tiny little bit of

of protecting this tiny little bit of sea around

sea around

sea around DOMA

DOMA

DOMA we would be protecting something with we

we would be protecting something with we

we would be protecting something with we are borrowing from our future

are borrowing from our future

are borrowing from our future generations so I hope you’ll agree that

generations so I hope you’ll agree that

generations so I hope you’ll agree that it’s time to have marine reserves in

it’s time to have marine reserves in

it’s time to have marine reserves in Wales but creation of a no-take zone

Wales but creation of a no-take zone

Wales but creation of a no-take zone lands going islands which contribute to

lands going islands which contribute to

lands going islands which contribute to these goals

these goals

these goals it would allow return to the old normal

it would allow return to the old normal

it would allow return to the old normal it would give us a chance to see what

it would give us a chance to see what

it would give us a chance to see what that old baseline looks like and it

that old baseline looks like and it

that old baseline looks like and it would give future generations a chance

would give future generations a chance

would give future generations a chance to really learn and see what a properly

to really learn and see what a properly

to really learn and see what a properly protected a properly looked after marina

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