Value and Invest in Nature | Marc Hudson | TEDxJacksonville

so I work too

so I work too here in Florida which for me means that

here in Florida which for me means that

here in Florida which for me means that I spent a lot of time sitting down at

I spent a lot of time sitting down at

I spent a lot of time sitting down at kitchen tables and maybe talking to a

kitchen tables and maybe talking to a

kitchen tables and maybe talking to a forester about how we can buy their

forester about how we can buy their

forester about how we can buy their forest and turn it into a park I might

forest and turn it into a park I might

forest and turn it into a park I might sit down with a farmer and talk to them

sit down with a farmer and talk to them

sit down with a farmer and talk to them about how we can keep their farm a farm

about how we can keep their farm a farm

about how we can keep their farm a farm producing fresh local food rather than

producing fresh local food rather than

producing fresh local food rather than become a shopping mall or I might sit

become a shopping mall or I might sit

become a shopping mall or I might sit down with a rancher and talk to that

down with a rancher and talk to that

down with a rancher and talk to that Rancher about how we can make sure that

Rancher about how we can make sure that

Rancher about how we can make sure that their ranch not only works for cows but

their ranch not only works for cows but

their ranch not only works for cows but also works for wildlife so when I tell

also works for wildlife so when I tell

also works for wildlife so when I tell people what I do they intuitively kind

people what I do they intuitively kind

people what I do they intuitively kind of get that well buying land and

of get that well buying land and

of get that well buying land and restoring habitat might be expensive so

restoring habitat might be expensive so

restoring habitat might be expensive so one of the first questions they always

one of the first questions they always

one of the first questions they always ask me is mark how do you pay for that

ask me is mark how do you pay for that

ask me is mark how do you pay for that and see that question right there is a

and see that question right there is a

and see that question right there is a problem

problem

problem it’s a problem in part because you do

it’s a problem in part because you do

it’s a problem in part because you do pay for it if you pay income taxes if

pay for it if you pay income taxes if

pay for it if you pay income taxes if you pay property taxes gasoline taxes

you pay property taxes gasoline taxes

you pay property taxes gasoline taxes sales taxes

sales taxes

sales taxes some of those tax revenues go to some of

some of those tax revenues go to some of

some of those tax revenues go to some of the programs that I use but the real

the programs that I use but the real

the programs that I use but the real problem is that you don’t know that you

problem is that you don’t know that you

problem is that you don’t know that you pay for it and how we pay for things a

pay for it and how we pay for things a

pay for it and how we pay for things a large part determines how we value them

large part determines how we value them

large part determines how we value them I bet you know exactly how much your

I bet you know exactly how much your

I bet you know exactly how much your house is worth because you pay your

house is worth because you pay your

house is worth because you pay your mortgage I bet you know how much your

mortgage I bet you know how much your

mortgage I bet you know how much your car is worth because you make a car

car is worth because you make a car

car is worth because you make a car payment you probably know how much the

payment you probably know how much the

payment you probably know how much the shirt on your back and every doodad and

shirt on your back and every doodad and

shirt on your back and every doodad and bobble in your life is worth but the one

bobble in your life is worth but the one

bobble in your life is worth but the one thing that all life depends on nature

thing that all life depends on nature

thing that all life depends on nature most people have no concept of the value

most people have no concept of the value

most people have no concept of the value it’s really common to say it’s priceless

it’s really common to say it’s priceless

it’s really common to say it’s priceless but we destroy it so it’s clearly isn’t

but we destroy it so it’s clearly isn’t

but we destroy it so it’s clearly isn’t so how do we value nature let me tell

so how do we value nature let me tell

so how do we value nature let me tell you how I value nature I grew up in the

you how I value nature I grew up in the

you how I value nature I grew up in the country and I learned to value the back

country and I learned to value the back

country and I learned to value the back 40 if you grew up the country what the

40 if you grew up the country what the

40 if you grew up the country what the back 40 is is there’s a part of the farm

back 40 is is there’s a part of the farm

back 40 is is there’s a part of the farm that a farmer doesn’t farm they just

that a farmer doesn’t farm they just

that a farmer doesn’t farm they just leave it as woods and they might do that

leave it as woods and they might do that

leave it as woods and they might do that because well they they like to go hiking

because well they they like to go hiking

because well they they like to go hiking or fishing or hunting on it but the real

or fishing or hunting on it but the real

or fishing or hunting on it but the real reason is is that the trees that grow in

reason is is that the trees that grow in

reason is is that the trees that grow in the back 40 have value it’s a piggy bank

the back 40 have value it’s a piggy bank

the back 40 have value it’s a piggy bank it’s a crop that grows itself and so if

it’s a crop that grows itself and so if

it’s a crop that grows itself and so if there’s a medical emergency in the

there’s a medical emergency in the

there’s a medical emergency in the family if a kid needs to go to college

family if a kid needs to go to college

family if a kid needs to go to college or heaven forbid a crop fails

or heaven forbid a crop fails

or heaven forbid a crop fails the farmer can go harvest those trees

the farmer can go harvest those trees

the farmer can go harvest those trees and make it through the season so I grew

and make it through the season so I grew

and make it through the season so I grew up understanding the back forty kind of

up understanding the back forty kind of

up understanding the back forty kind of like a piggy bank but I was also lucky

like a piggy bank but I was also lucky

like a piggy bank but I was also lucky enough when to grow up with two wildlife

enough when to grow up with two wildlife

enough when to grow up with two wildlife biologists for parents and they showed

biologists for parents and they showed

biologists for parents and they showed me that the back 40 had a lot more value

me that the back 40 had a lot more value

me that the back 40 had a lot more value than just as a PE Bank that it helped

than just as a PE Bank that it helped

than just as a PE Bank that it helped make sure that we filtered a lot of the

make sure that we filtered a lot of the

make sure that we filtered a lot of the pollutants out of our water bodies that

pollutants out of our water bodies that

pollutants out of our water bodies that it had absorbed stormwater when there

it had absorbed stormwater when there

it had absorbed stormwater when there was a flood there was a safe haven for a

was a flood there was a safe haven for a

was a flood there was a safe haven for a lot of the wildlife we enjoyed and that

lot of the wildlife we enjoyed and that

lot of the wildlife we enjoyed and that it even kept us cooler in the summertime

it even kept us cooler in the summertime

it even kept us cooler in the summertime so while I got to see the back 40 as

so while I got to see the back 40 as

so while I got to see the back 40 as this great service provider I also saw

this great service provider I also saw

this great service provider I also saw it as this piggy bank

it as this piggy bank

it as this piggy bank those services are things that you and I

those services are things that you and I

those services are things that you and I use and we need but however we value the

use and we need but however we value the

use and we need but however we value the back 40 that value is not actually being

back 40 that value is not actually being

back 40 that value is not actually being given to the farmer they could only

given to the farmer they could only

given to the farmer they could only realize value out of that property when

realize value out of that property when

realize value out of that property when they took it away and so that if we’re

they took it away and so that if we’re

they took it away and so that if we’re ever going to save our environment we

ever going to save our environment we

ever going to save our environment we have to find out a way that we value

have to find out a way that we value

have to find out a way that we value nature to actually turn into monetary

nature to actually turn into monetary

nature to actually turn into monetary value for the people who take care of it

value for the people who take care of it

value for the people who take care of it and this is a particularly true in

and this is a particularly true in

and this is a particularly true in Florida because over the next couple of

Florida because over the next couple of

Florida because over the next couple of generations 13 million people are going

generations 13 million people are going

generations 13 million people are going to move to the state of Florida that’s

to move to the state of Florida that’s

to move to the state of Florida that’s as if the entire state of Ohio moved to

as if the entire state of Ohio moved to

as if the entire state of Ohio moved to Florida and I thought we had Knuffle

Florida and I thought we had Knuffle

Florida and I thought we had Knuffle high winds here already I’m from Ohio so

high winds here already I’m from Ohio so

high winds here already I’m from Ohio so I’m gonna show you what thirteen million

I’m gonna show you what thirteen million

I’m gonna show you what thirteen million new people means to the state of Florida

new people means to the state of Florida

new people means to the state of Florida now I got a couple maps I want you to

now I got a couple maps I want you to

now I got a couple maps I want you to really pay attention to them here’s the

really pay attention to them here’s the

really pay attention to them here’s the first one this is a map that all the red

first one this is a map that all the red

first one this is a map that all the red areas on this map are our current cities

areas on this map are our current cities

areas on this map are our current cities and towns here in Florida this is what

and towns here in Florida this is what

and towns here in Florida this is what Florida looks like if we have 13 million

Florida looks like if we have 13 million

Florida looks like if we have 13 million more people as you can see much of our

more people as you can see much of our

more people as you can see much of our natural environment our farms and our

natural environment our farms and our

natural environment our farms and our forests are going to be lost and that’s

forests are going to be lost and that’s

forests are going to be lost and that’s going to be made worse by these 13

going to be made worse by these 13

going to be made worse by these 13 million people who are gonna exacerbate

million people who are gonna exacerbate

million people who are gonna exacerbate existing issues that we have with sea

existing issues that we have with sea

existing issues that we have with sea level rise with biodiversity decline

level rise with biodiversity decline

level rise with biodiversity decline with water supply water quality

with water supply water quality

with water supply water quality wildfires you name it it’s gonna be a

wildfires you name it it’s gonna be a

wildfires you name it it’s gonna be a lot harder to deal with

lot harder to deal with

lot harder to deal with and so we in particular need to find a

and so we in particular need to find a

and so we in particular need to find a way to value natural Florida or else

way to value natural Florida or else

way to value natural Florida or else it’s gonna go away so what if there was

it’s gonna go away so what if there was

it’s gonna go away so what if there was an easy way for you guys to help invest

an easy way for you guys to help invest

an easy way for you guys to help invest in the saving of natural Florida and in

in the saving of natural Florida and in

in the saving of natural Florida and in return you got those services you were

return you got those services you were

return you got those services you were guaranteed those services that nature

guaranteed those services that nature

guaranteed those services that nature gives us all

gives us all

gives us all now I mentioned a couple easy ways that

now I mentioned a couple easy ways that

now I mentioned a couple easy ways that you guys pay for things in your life I

you guys pay for things in your life I

you guys pay for things in your life I mentioned a mortgage I mentioned a car

mentioned a mortgage I mentioned a car

mentioned a mortgage I mentioned a car payment who here pays a utility bill

payment who here pays a utility bill

payment who here pays a utility bill you’re lying you do we all do and you

you’re lying you do we all do and you

you’re lying you do we all do and you know the thing about nature and

know the thing about nature and

know the thing about nature and utilities is they do a lot of the same

utilities is they do a lot of the same

utilities is they do a lot of the same things for us so what if there was an

things for us so what if there was an

things for us so what if there was an eco utility one that invested in nature

eco utility one that invested in nature

eco utility one that invested in nature that restored it and protected it and

that restored it and protected it and

that restored it and protected it and then rewarded you with nature’s services

then rewarded you with nature’s services

then rewarded you with nature’s services that you didn’t just pay a monthly bill

that you didn’t just pay a monthly bill

that you didn’t just pay a monthly bill because nature and utilities do have a

because nature and utilities do have a

because nature and utilities do have a lot of income and you pay the utility to

lot of income and you pay the utility to

lot of income and you pay the utility to give you clean drinking water right well

give you clean drinking water right well

give you clean drinking water right well doesn’t that water come from our natural

doesn’t that water come from our natural

doesn’t that water come from our natural aquifer and you pay the utility to treat

aquifer and you pay the utility to treat

aquifer and you pay the utility to treat sewer that we all create and to make

sewer that we all create and to make

sewer that we all create and to make sure that it does include our rivers and

sure that it does include our rivers and

sure that it does include our rivers and streams well wetlands treat the polluted

streams well wetlands treat the polluted

streams well wetlands treat the polluted runoff water that we all create so that

runoff water that we all create so that

runoff water that we all create so that we don’t have polluted rivers and

we don’t have polluted rivers and

we don’t have polluted rivers and streams and you may not know this but

streams and you may not know this but

streams and you may not know this but here in Jacksonville we have a storm

here in Jacksonville we have a storm

here in Jacksonville we have a storm water utility whose job it is to make

water utility whose job it is to make

water utility whose job it is to make sure that we aren’t flooded but when we

sure that we aren’t flooded but when we

sure that we aren’t flooded but when we have a hurricane isn’t it the dunes the

have a hurricane isn’t it the dunes the

have a hurricane isn’t it the dunes the marshes and the wetlands who are

marshes and the wetlands who are

marshes and the wetlands who are protecting us from a lot of flooding

protecting us from a lot of flooding

protecting us from a lot of flooding already so nature and utilities do a lot

already so nature and utilities do a lot

already so nature and utilities do a lot of the same things for us but one of the

of the same things for us but one of the

of the same things for us but one of the cooler things is is that we even know

cooler things is is that we even know

cooler things is is that we even know how to value them the same way I’ll give

how to value them the same way I’ll give

how to value them the same way I’ll give you an example so when you pay your

you an example so when you pay your

you an example so when you pay your sewer bill you’re actually paying for a

sewer bill you’re actually paying for a

sewer bill you’re actually paying for a wastewater treatment plant that’s right

wastewater treatment plant that’s right

wastewater treatment plant that’s right up there behind me and see one of the

up there behind me and see one of the

up there behind me and see one of the ways that we can value a wastewater

ways that we can value a wastewater

ways that we can value a wastewater treatment plant is we look at its cost

treatment plant is we look at its cost

treatment plant is we look at its cost efficiency how much it costs that

efficiency how much it costs that

efficiency how much it costs that wastewater treatment plant to treat one

wastewater treatment plant to treat one

wastewater treatment plant to treat one a pound of pollution so let’s say that

a pound of pollution so let’s say that

a pound of pollution so let’s say that wastewater treatment plant it costs it

wastewater treatment plant it costs it

wastewater treatment plant it costs it 400 dollars to treat one pound of

400 dollars to treat one pound of

400 dollars to treat one pound of pollution well if that wetland also

pollution well if that wetland also

pollution well if that wetland also treats one pound of pollution is it not

treats one pound of pollution is it not

treats one pound of pollution is it not giving us a $400 service I think so and

giving us a $400 service I think so and

giving us a $400 service I think so and if that wetland treats 20 pounds is that

if that wetland treats 20 pounds is that

if that wetland treats 20 pounds is that not an $8,000 wetland so not only do you

not an $8,000 wetland so not only do you

not an $8,000 wetland so not only do you Atilla teas in nature do a lot of the

Atilla teas in nature do a lot of the

Atilla teas in nature do a lot of the same things for us but we can actually

same things for us but we can actually

same things for us but we can actually compare their values and in that way we

compare their values and in that way we

compare their values and in that way we can invest in an eco utility can do the

can invest in an eco utility can do the

can invest in an eco utility can do the same things for you that your utility

same things for you that your utility

same things for you that your utility does they’re just doing it via a

does they’re just doing it via a

does they’re just doing it via a different way by investing and restoring

different way by investing and restoring

different way by investing and restoring in nature well how does this work mark

in nature well how does this work mark

in nature well how does this work mark well let me give you some examples now

well let me give you some examples now

well let me give you some examples now water if we have 13 million more people

water if we have 13 million more people

water if we have 13 million more people come here we’re gonna need more drinking

come here we’re gonna need more drinking

come here we’re gonna need more drinking water there’s not enough and we can try

water there’s not enough and we can try

water there’s not enough and we can try to find new supplies of water we can try

to find new supplies of water we can try

to find new supplies of water we can try to desalinate the ocean but that’s

to desalinate the ocean but that’s

to desalinate the ocean but that’s really expensive trying to take salt out

really expensive trying to take salt out

really expensive trying to take salt out of salt water we can conserve water

of salt water we can conserve water

of salt water we can conserve water which is good we should do it but that

which is good we should do it but that

which is good we should do it but that means I have less water which and I’m

means I have less water which and I’m

means I have less water which and I’m thirsty

thirsty

thirsty it also MIT has some negative social

it also MIT has some negative social

it also MIT has some negative social impacts and can also be more costly but

impacts and can also be more costly but

impacts and can also be more costly but what if there was a way that we could

what if there was a way that we could

what if there was a way that we could invest in nature that we could assure

invest in nature that we could assure

invest in nature that we could assure ourselves more water in the aquifer at a

ourselves more water in the aquifer at a

ourselves more water in the aquifer at a rate that no more than we’re paying

rate that no more than we’re paying

rate that no more than we’re paying right now and the way we would do it is

right now and the way we would do it is

right now and the way we would do it is we can access a source of water that

we can access a source of water that

we can access a source of water that none of us even know that we’re using in

none of us even know that we’re using in

none of us even know that we’re using in our everyday life what do I mean by that

our everyday life what do I mean by that

our everyday life what do I mean by that I mean paper now how many of you have

I mean paper now how many of you have

I mean paper now how many of you have driven down an interstate and Florida

driven down an interstate and Florida

driven down an interstate and Florida passed through rows upon rows upon rows

passed through rows upon rows upon rows

passed through rows upon rows upon rows of pine trees doesn’t make i-10 exciting

of pine trees doesn’t make i-10 exciting

of pine trees doesn’t make i-10 exciting well believe it or not pine trees don’t

well believe it or not pine trees don’t

well believe it or not pine trees don’t naturally grow in rows they were planted

naturally grow in rows they were planted

naturally grow in rows they were planted that way and the reason that we plant

that way and the reason that we plant

that way and the reason that we plant them that way is by and large so that

them that way is by and large so that

them that way is by and large so that they can be grown to be turned into pulp

they can be grown to be turned into pulp

they can be grown to be turned into pulp for the use in the production of paper

for the use in the production of paper

for the use in the production of paper and here in the American South we

and here in the American South we

and here in the American South we actually produce more paper than

actually produce more paper than

actually produce more paper than anywhere in the world or the paper

anywhere in the world or the paper

anywhere in the world or the paper capital but the thing about when you’re

capital but the thing about when you’re

capital but the thing about when you’re growing pine trees for pay

growing pine trees for pay

growing pine trees for pay is you try to squeeze as many pine trees

is you try to squeeze as many pine trees

is you try to squeeze as many pine trees into a small of area as possible to

into a small of area as possible to

into a small of area as possible to maximize your income now I have nothing

maximize your income now I have nothing

maximize your income now I have nothing against paper keeps a lot of rural

against paper keeps a lot of rural

against paper keeps a lot of rural people employed but it does change our

people employed but it does change our

people employed but it does change our landscape quite a bit so that a paper

landscape quite a bit so that a paper

landscape quite a bit so that a paper forest looks a lot like this Roza pine

forest looks a lot like this Roza pine

forest looks a lot like this Roza pine trees really dense very low biodiversity

trees really dense very low biodiversity

trees really dense very low biodiversity all you see is Pines when our natural

all you see is Pines when our natural

all you see is Pines when our natural pine forests around here should look

pine forests around here should look

pine forests around here should look like this now do you see the difference

like this now do you see the difference

like this now do you see the difference there’s a lot more pine trees in the

there’s a lot more pine trees in the

there’s a lot more pine trees in the paper for us and what a pine trees all

paper for us and what a pine trees all

paper for us and what a pine trees all use water next time if you want to

use water next time if you want to

use water next time if you want to change how you perceive the landscape in

change how you perceive the landscape in

change how you perceive the landscape in Florida next time you drive down the

Florida next time you drive down the

Florida next time you drive down the interstate look at all those trees as if

interstate look at all those trees as if

interstate look at all those trees as if they are drinking straws they use a lot

they are drinking straws they use a lot

they are drinking straws they use a lot of water to the tune of a couple

of water to the tune of a couple

of water to the tune of a couple hundreds gallons per acre per day extra

hundreds gallons per acre per day extra

hundreds gallons per acre per day extra over a natural forest condition so what

over a natural forest condition so what

over a natural forest condition so what does that mean in total well that means

does that mean in total well that means

does that mean in total well that means hundreds of millions if not billions of

hundreds of millions if not billions of

hundreds of millions if not billions of gallons of water per day that we’re

gallons of water per day that we’re

gallons of water per day that we’re using effectively to grow paper so what

using effectively to grow paper so what

using effectively to grow paper so what could an eco utility do in this case

could an eco utility do in this case

could an eco utility do in this case well they could just invest money with

well they could just invest money with

well they could just invest money with foresters to thin out their forests

foresters to thin out their forests

foresters to thin out their forests restore it to a natural condition what

restore it to a natural condition what

restore it to a natural condition what does that mean well it means that the

does that mean well it means that the

does that mean well it means that the foresters are still getting paid so they

foresters are still getting paid so they

foresters are still getting paid so they don’t care it means that there’s more

don’t care it means that there’s more

don’t care it means that there’s more water in our aquifer and our forests are

water in our aquifer and our forests are

water in our aquifer and our forests are more healthy and you want to know the

more healthy and you want to know the

more healthy and you want to know the coolest thing about it it’s 8 to 33

coolest thing about it it’s 8 to 33

coolest thing about it it’s 8 to 33 percent more profitable for the

percent more profitable for the

percent more profitable for the foresters growing trees for water rather

foresters growing trees for water rather

foresters growing trees for water rather than paper so that’s just one thing in

than paper so that’s just one thing in

than paper so that’s just one thing in eco utility can do now here in Florida

eco utility can do now here in Florida

eco utility can do now here in Florida we’ve experienced a few hurricanes here

we’ve experienced a few hurricanes here

we’ve experienced a few hurricanes here recently so a 13 million people moved to

recently so a 13 million people moved to

recently so a 13 million people moved to Florida where do you think they’re gonna

Florida where do you think they’re gonna

Florida where do you think they’re gonna want to live right next to the water and

want to live right next to the water and

want to live right next to the water and that’s problem because that means a lot

that’s problem because that means a lot

that’s problem because that means a lot of our real estate and our people are

of our real estate and our people are

of our real estate and our people are gonna be at more risk to future

gonna be at more risk to future

gonna be at more risk to future hurricanes and it’s not just a problem

hurricanes and it’s not just a problem

hurricanes and it’s not just a problem in the humanitarian sense that’s a real

in the humanitarian sense that’s a real

in the humanitarian sense that’s a real problem for the national flood insurance

problem for the national flood insurance

problem for the national flood insurance program we’re going to be more risky to

program we’re going to be more risky to

program we’re going to be more risky to insure and so as a result

insure and so as a result

insure and so as a result everybody’s insurance rates are gonna go

everybody’s insurance rates are gonna go

everybody’s insurance rates are gonna go up now what if an eco utility

up now what if an eco utility

up now what if an eco utility I could go ahead and invest in dune

I could go ahead and invest in dune

I could go ahead and invest in dune restoration invest in marsh

restoration invest in marsh

restoration invest in marsh rehabilitation and fix some broken

rehabilitation and fix some broken

rehabilitation and fix some broken wetlands they can then base on a real

wetlands they can then base on a real

wetlands they can then base on a real argument that they’ve reduced the risk

argument that they’ve reduced the risk

argument that they’ve reduced the risk to all of our water adjacent homes go to

to all of our water adjacent homes go to

to all of our water adjacent homes go to the National Flood Insurance Program and

the National Flood Insurance Program and

the National Flood Insurance Program and argue for a reduced rate and as

argue for a reduced rate and as

argue for a reduced rate and as customers to the Eco utility the only

customers to the Eco utility the only

customers to the Eco utility the only bet that you have to make with them is

bet that you have to make with them is

bet that you have to make with them is that you will pay less than what may

that you will pay less than what may

that you will pay less than what may save you in flood insurance that’s one

save you in flood insurance that’s one

save you in flood insurance that’s one of the things Nico utility can do and

of the things Nico utility can do and

of the things Nico utility can do and you know I started this thing out with

you know I started this thing out with

you know I started this thing out with the back forty and what one of the

the back forty and what one of the

the back forty and what one of the things the back forty does is it treats

things the back forty does is it treats

things the back forty does is it treats pollution and when thirteen million

pollution and when thirteen million

pollution and when thirteen million people come here there’s gonna be a lot

people come here there’s gonna be a lot

people come here there’s gonna be a lot more pollution running off our yards or

more pollution running off our yards or

more pollution running off our yards or streets and everywhere else

streets and everywhere else

streets and everywhere else well what if an eco utility pays the

well what if an eco utility pays the

well what if an eco utility pays the farmer to keep back 40 to restore the

farmer to keep back 40 to restore the

farmer to keep back 40 to restore the back 40 to treat allow the runoff water

back 40 to treat allow the runoff water

back 40 to treat allow the runoff water we all create the farmer gets value out

we all create the farmer gets value out

we all create the farmer gets value out of the back forty that isn’t harvesting

of the back forty that isn’t harvesting

of the back forty that isn’t harvesting the trees we all get cleaner rivers and

the trees we all get cleaner rivers and

the trees we all get cleaner rivers and streams and we have a more natural

streams and we have a more natural

streams and we have a more natural Florida that’s one of the things that

Florida that’s one of the things that

Florida that’s one of the things that can eco utility can do but you know what

can eco utility can do but you know what

can eco utility can do but you know what I think the biggest thing in eco utility

I think the biggest thing in eco utility

I think the biggest thing in eco utility can do as they not only will make you

can do as they not only will make you

can do as they not only will make you value nature in a way that means

value nature in a way that means

value nature in a way that means something to your pocketbook but I think

something to your pocketbook but I think

something to your pocketbook but I think they can make you investors in it when

they can make you investors in it when

they can make you investors in it when you see how well you get returned for

you see how well you get returned for

you see how well you get returned for having just given a little to nature if

having just given a little to nature if

having just given a little to nature if I can give you a bill that says hey last

I can give you a bill that says hey last

I can give you a bill that says hey last month we provided you with 600 gallons

month we provided you with 600 gallons

month we provided you with 600 gallons of water and we restored four acres of

of water and we restored four acres of

of water and we restored four acres of forest if I can give you a bill that

forest if I can give you a bill that

forest if I can give you a bill that says that we treated a couple pounds of

says that we treated a couple pounds of

says that we treated a couple pounds of your pollution and we built a wetland

your pollution and we built a wetland

your pollution and we built a wetland how are you gonna value wetlands and oh

how are you gonna value wetlands and oh

how are you gonna value wetlands and oh by the way we save your house and all

by the way we save your house and all

by the way we save your house and all your neighbors from a hurricane and we

your neighbors from a hurricane and we

your neighbors from a hurricane and we saved you money on your flood insurance

saved you money on your flood insurance

saved you money on your flood insurance how are you gonna feel about the dunes

how are you gonna feel about the dunes

how are you gonna feel about the dunes and marshes I think you’re in a value in

and marshes I think you’re in a value in

and marshes I think you’re in a value in a way that’s completely different

a way that’s completely different

a way that’s completely different and that’s what I want an eco utility to

and that’s what I want an eco utility to

and that’s what I want an eco utility to do because if we don’t find new ways

do because if we don’t find new ways

do because if we don’t find new ways better ways to value nature

better ways to value nature

better ways to value nature we’re gonna lose it all and I don’t

we’re gonna lose it all and I don’t

we’re gonna lose it all and I don’t think we can afford that thank you