
thank you very much sir thomas moore in his book about utopia describe this
his book about utopia describe this
his book about utopia describe this idyllic place where there’s peace all
idyllic place where there’s peace all
idyllic place where there’s peace all the time and everyone is equal and when
the time and everyone is equal and when
the time and everyone is equal and when I knew the theme about this TEDx youth I
I knew the theme about this TEDx youth I
I knew the theme about this TEDx youth I thought that’s great I’ll explore that
thought that’s great I’ll explore that
thought that’s great I’ll explore that and the reason that so Thomas More knew
and the reason that so Thomas More knew
and the reason that so Thomas More knew that that place doesn’t and probably
that that place doesn’t and probably
that that place doesn’t and probably will never exist and the reason he chose
will never exist and the reason he chose
will never exist and the reason he chose the word utopia is because in Latin it
the word utopia is because in Latin it
the word utopia is because in Latin it means no place and that is where
means no place and that is where
means no place and that is where refugees find themselves in a no place
refugees find themselves in a no place
refugees find themselves in a no place did they expect to get there did they
did they expect to get there did they
did they expect to get there did they want to get there nobody expected to get
want to get there nobody expected to get
want to get there nobody expected to get there we don’t think it’s ever going to
there we don’t think it’s ever going to
there we don’t think it’s ever going to happen to us but it could happen to us
happen to us but it could happen to us
happen to us but it could happen to us all it’s happened to our forefathers and
all it’s happened to our forefathers and
all it’s happened to our forefathers and it’s happening too many people around
it’s happening too many people around
it’s happening too many people around the world but they don’t expect to get
the world but they don’t expect to get
the world but they don’t expect to get there when I met Abdi in Nairobi he was
there when I met Abdi in Nairobi he was
there when I met Abdi in Nairobi he was telling me about his life before he
telling me about his life before he
telling me about his life before he became a refugee he had a home a job
became a refugee he had a home a job
became a refugee he had a home a job family things he did normal life not
family things he did normal life not
family things he did normal life not much different from us the normal
much different from us the normal
much different from us the normal privileges of life but he lost it all
privileges of life but he lost it all
privileges of life but he lost it all and if you look at Sir Thomas More’s
and if you look at Sir Thomas More’s
and if you look at Sir Thomas More’s version of utopia he’s met he’s got
version of utopia he’s met he’s got
version of utopia he’s met he’s got there because everyone is equal and you
there because everyone is equal and you
there because everyone is equal and you look at refugees and that’s exactly what
look at refugees and that’s exactly what
look at refugees and that’s exactly what whatever they have before they have been
whatever they have before they have been
whatever they have before they have been reduced to the same thing they’ve come
reduced to the same thing they’ve come
reduced to the same thing they’ve come to utopia or have they well let’s
to utopia or have they well let’s
to utopia or have they well let’s examine whether utopia whether it means
examine whether utopia whether it means
examine whether utopia whether it means the same thing to us all of course along
the same thing to us all of course along
the same thing to us all of course along with utopia is and there’s no place is
with utopia is and there’s no place is
with utopia is and there’s no place is identity and refugee what we have
identity and refugee what we have
identity and refugee what we have identity we have passports I’m Jane I’ve
identity we have passports I’m Jane I’ve
identity we have passports I’m Jane I’ve got a British passport I have an
got a British passport I have an
got a British passport I have an identity but refugees so many refugees
identity but refugees so many refugees
identity but refugees so many refugees are refugees they have they lack
are refugees they have they lack
are refugees they have they lack identity they have a paper which says
identity they have a paper which says
identity they have a paper which says they are a refugee in Nairobi again I
they are a refugee in Nairobi again I
they are a refugee in Nairobi again I was in
was in
was in Ruby just now I met busy mana a great
Ruby just now I met busy mana a great
Ruby just now I met busy mana a great energetic lively young man from Rwanda
energetic lively young man from Rwanda
energetic lively young man from Rwanda and his name is appropriate cuz he was
and his name is appropriate cuz he was
and his name is appropriate cuz he was busy he was busy making a life for
busy he was busy making a life for
busy he was busy making a life for himself he had a job he’d started a
himself he had a job he’d started a
himself he had a job he’d started a business and he was producing these
business and he was producing these
business and he was producing these snacks and he was providing for himself
snacks and he was providing for himself
snacks and he was providing for himself he was earning a living he was employing
he was earning a living he was employing
he was earning a living he was employing local people he was contribution to the
local people he was contribution to the
local people he was contribution to the contributing to the local economy doing
contributing to the local economy doing
contributing to the local economy doing great he’s also a musician it’s a big
great he’s also a musician it’s a big
great he’s also a musician it’s a big fan of NAS I’ve never heard of mouse
fan of NAS I’ve never heard of mouse
fan of NAS I’ve never heard of mouse before that I know all about now is now
before that I know all about now is now
before that I know all about now is now but I’d never heard of him before that
but I’d never heard of him before that
but I’d never heard of him before that and he had written a song based on the
and he had written a song based on the
and he had written a song based on the similar sort of music called cry of the
similar sort of music called cry of the
similar sort of music called cry of the refugee which he put into a video and
refugee which he put into a video and
refugee which he put into a video and his video is great we often use it and
his video is great we often use it and
his video is great we often use it and he won an award for this video in New
he won an award for this video in New
he won an award for this video in New York a thousand dollars but he couldn’t
York a thousand dollars but he couldn’t
York a thousand dollars but he couldn’t go and get it why because he’s a refugee
go and get it why because he’s a refugee
go and get it why because he’s a refugee he’s got no paper a person with so much
he’s got no paper a person with so much
he’s got no paper a person with so much identity had no identity that’s the
identity had no identity that’s the
identity had no identity that’s the problem of egalitarianism if I tell you
problem of egalitarianism if I tell you
problem of egalitarianism if I tell you that there are what 64 million people
that there are what 64 million people
that there are what 64 million people displaced by conflict around road but
displaced by conflict around road but
displaced by conflict around road but last year we funded and supported
last year we funded and supported
last year we funded and supported projects for five thousand people it
projects for five thousand people it
projects for five thousand people it doesn’t mean enough before numbers they
doesn’t mean enough before numbers they
doesn’t mean enough before numbers they are human beings and human beings as you
are human beings and human beings as you
are human beings and human beings as you can see you take a pride in themselves
can see you take a pride in themselves
can see you take a pride in themselves we need to understand them it’s a severe
we need to understand them it’s a severe
we need to understand them it’s a severe crisis it’s a crisis around the world
crisis it’s a crisis around the world
crisis it’s a crisis around the world that affects us all we need to
that affects us all we need to
that affects us all we need to understand them and as a hell of a lot
understand them and as a hell of a lot
understand them and as a hell of a lot we can learn from them and they even
we can learn from them and they even
we can learn from them and they even wince as I say they enough because it
wince as I say they enough because it
wince as I say they enough because it shouldn’t be that should we but we
shouldn’t be that should we but we
shouldn’t be that should we but we talked about it we talked about the
talked about it we talked about the
talked about it we talked about the board or the the teachers or whatever
board or the the teachers or whatever
board or the the teachers or whatever there’s a day enoughs in everything we
there’s a day enoughs in everything we
there’s a day enoughs in everything we do and as I’m saying about refugees I
do and as I’m saying about refugees I
do and as I’m saying about refugees I went slightly but they want a normal
went slightly but they want a normal
went slightly but they want a normal life they want a life which is very
life they want a life which is very
life they want a life which is very similar to ours they just want to do
similar to ours they just want to do
similar to ours they just want to do normal things and dance and sing and do
normal things and dance and sing and do
normal things and dance and sing and do the family things that we all do they
the family things that we all do they
the family things that we all do they don’t want to be refugees they don’t
don’t want to be refugees they don’t
don’t want to be refugees they don’t want to be in that no place and so is
want to be in that no place and so is
want to be in that no place and so is their utopia the same as ours that no
their utopia the same as ours that no
their utopia the same as ours that no place that they’ve ended up in camps
place that they’ve ended up in camps
place that they’ve ended up in camps urban situations and so on to understand
urban situations and so on to understand
urban situations and so on to understand them and to get to know more about their
them and to get to know more about their
them and to get to know more about their lives the important thing is not those
lives the important thing is not those
lives the important thing is not those numbers but it’s the individual stories
numbers but it’s the individual stories
numbers but it’s the individual stories and it’s the individual stories that
and it’s the individual stories that
and it’s the individual stories that really bring it home to us what those
really bring it home to us what those
really bring it home to us what those people are and what they’re like I doing
people are and what they’re like I doing
people are and what they’re like I doing a presentation earlier this year in a
a presentation earlier this year in a
a presentation earlier this year in a school and telling stories and I ask the
school and telling stories and I ask the
school and telling stories and I ask the students what their impression was and
students what their impression was and
students what their impression was and one student stood up and he said that
one student stood up and he said that
one student stood up and he said that boy wants to be an engineer so do I it’s
boy wants to be an engineer so do I it’s
boy wants to be an engineer so do I it’s the same in another presentation of
the same in another presentation of
the same in another presentation of doing in a company again I asked and one
doing in a company again I asked and one
doing in a company again I asked and one of the participants said it brings it
of the participants said it brings it
of the participants said it brings it home to you that before people became
home to you that before people became
home to you that before people became refugees they did the things that we all
refugees they did the things that we all
refugees they did the things that we all like to do and they wanted to do and
like to do and they wanted to do and
like to do and they wanted to do and that they can still do if they have the
that they can still do if they have the
that they can still do if they have the opportunity music and playing sports
opportunity music and playing sports
opportunity music and playing sports this reminds me of going on one visit
this reminds me of going on one visit
this reminds me of going on one visit with my husband who came back talking
with my husband who came back talking
with my husband who came back talking about the fact that he was aware that
about the fact that he was aware that
about the fact that he was aware that ever wanted to hold their own culture
ever wanted to hold their own culture
ever wanted to hold their own culture keep their own culture and they also
keep their own culture and they also
keep their own culture and they also wanted he came back with that word
wanted he came back with that word
wanted he came back with that word normality which one comes up time and
normality which one comes up time and
normality which one comes up time and time again when I’m speaking and he’s a
time again when I’m speaking and he’s a
time again when I’m speaking and he’s a big football soccer fan and he was
big football soccer fan and he was
big football soccer fan and he was watching them play football sorry you
watching them play football sorry you
watching them play football sorry you speak soccer but it’s soccer and not
speak soccer but it’s soccer and not
speak soccer but it’s soccer and not just that they were playing it but they
just that they were playing it but they
just that they were playing it but they they were bothering about it they wanted
they were bothering about it they wanted
they were bothering about it they wanted to wear the colors of their favorite
to wear the colors of their favorite
to wear the colors of their favorite team they were making it as real as they
team they were making it as real as they
team they were making it as real as they could he didn’t approve of their choice
could he didn’t approve of their choice
could he didn’t approve of their choice of teams but that doesn’t matter and the
of teams but that doesn’t matter and the
of teams but that doesn’t matter and the other thing is that we fund some
other thing is that we fund some
other thing is that we fund some projects for for studies and they
projects for for studies and they
projects for for studies and they graduate at the end of the the course
graduate at the end of the the course
graduate at the end of the the course and they like to wear the robes and they
and they like to wear the robes and they
and they like to wear the robes and they the mortar boards and as a huge I irony
the mortar boards and as a huge I irony
the mortar boards and as a huge I irony there because those mortar boards are
there because those mortar boards are
there because those mortar boards are being banned in UK because as they tosin
being banned in UK because as they tosin
being banned in UK because as they tosin they become missiles but any
they become missiles but any
they become missiles but any that’s what refugees would like to do so
that’s what refugees would like to do so
that’s what refugees would like to do so what can we do we could give them food
what can we do we could give them food
what can we do we could give them food we can give them clothes and that is
we can give them clothes and that is
we can give them clothes and that is important it is important but its
important it is important but its
important it is important but its dependence and it’s not creating
dependence and it’s not creating
dependence and it’s not creating opportunities the majority of refugees
opportunities the majority of refugees
opportunities the majority of refugees around the world want to stay in their
around the world want to stay in their
around the world want to stay in their region they want to keep their culture
region they want to keep their culture
region they want to keep their culture they don’t want to go to other places I
they don’t want to go to other places I
they don’t want to go to other places I know lots of people think they do but
know lots of people think they do but
know lots of people think they do but they don’t what they want is
they don’t what they want is
they don’t what they want is opportunities where they are
opportunities where they are
opportunities where they are opportunities to do the things that we
opportunities to do the things that we
opportunities to do the things that we all do and have a family life to work to
all do and have a family life to work to
all do and have a family life to work to earn a living to go shopping we all like
earn a living to go shopping we all like
earn a living to go shopping we all like to go shopping this is busy manga shop
to go shopping this is busy manga shop
to go shopping this is busy manga shop we all like to do things like that so
we all like to do things like that so
we all like to do things like that so this is what is really important so is
this is what is really important so is
this is what is really important so is it utopia it is really they hit equality
it utopia it is really they hit equality
it utopia it is really they hit equality they hit a no place but is it really
they hit a no place but is it really
they hit a no place but is it really really what they want and the other side
really what they want and the other side
really what they want and the other side to this evening this event so it’s not
to this evening this event so it’s not
to this evening this event so it’s not anything is it’s the square root of
anything is it’s the square root of
anything is it’s the square root of utopia I start square root okay I
utopia I start square root okay I
utopia I start square root okay I remember doing square roots of school
remember doing square roots of school
remember doing square roots of school and really enjoy doing them I was pretty
and really enjoy doing them I was pretty
and really enjoy doing them I was pretty good at them I probably couldn’t do them
good at them I probably couldn’t do them
good at them I probably couldn’t do them now if the square root of 0 is 0 square
now if the square root of 0 is 0 square
now if the square root of 0 is 0 square root of utopia must be utopia so that
root of utopia must be utopia so that
root of utopia must be utopia so that doesn’t bring what else is square root
doesn’t bring what else is square root
doesn’t bring what else is square root for it’s about distribution and that’s
for it’s about distribution and that’s
for it’s about distribution and that’s what we want to do through the work we
what we want to do through the work we
what we want to do through the work we do we want to tell people about it we
do we want to tell people about it we
do we want to tell people about it we want to tell you that the refugees are
want to tell you that the refugees are
want to tell you that the refugees are celebrating we want to tell you and
celebrating we want to tell you and
celebrating we want to tell you and spread the love and this is what is
spread the love and this is what is
spread the love and this is what is really important in busy manners video
really important in busy manners video
really important in busy manners video he one of his lines is different
he one of his lines is different
he one of his lines is different countries different tribes we’re all one
countries different tribes we’re all one
countries different tribes we’re all one people and I think that’s very important
people and I think that’s very important
people and I think that’s very important and i leave you with that one thought or
and i leave you with that one thought or
and i leave you with that one thought or no home no place there’s no place
no home no place there’s no place
no home no place there’s no place there’s no place like home thank you
there’s no place like home thank you
there’s no place like home thank you very much
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