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okay so everybody knows this sound

okay so everybody knows this sound especially people from the West of

especially people from the West of

especially people from the West of Ireland and it’s around us all the time

Ireland and it’s around us all the time

Ireland and it’s around us all the time and it’s kind of funny when you take the

and it’s kind of funny when you take the

and it’s kind of funny when you take the image away from this sound it actually

image away from this sound it actually

image away from this sound it actually gets a little bit more power you know

gets a little bit more power you know

gets a little bit more power you know we’re here in a theater but right now

we’re here in a theater but right now

we’re here in a theater but right now you’re actually picturing somewhere

you’re actually picturing somewhere

you’re actually picturing somewhere different right

different right

different right this feels feels different you know and

this feels feels different you know and

this feels feels different you know and today I’m going to talk to you about

today I’m going to talk to you about

today I’m going to talk to you about kind of an aspect when creating Eric’s

kind of an aspect when creating Eric’s

kind of an aspect when creating Eric’s that’s very very simple very simple but

that’s very very simple very simple but

that’s very very simple very simple but it was also very very important and a

it was also very very important and a

it was also very very important and a couple of years ago I was about to quit

couple of years ago I was about to quit

couple of years ago I was about to quit music completely and get a real job and

music completely and get a real job and

music completely and get a real job and I had just finished a major record label

I had just finished a major record label

I had just finished a major record label album and it was about two years in the

album and it was about two years in the

album and it was about two years in the making

making

making and it was these kind of perfect pop

and it was these kind of perfect pop

and it was these kind of perfect pop songs these like three-minute long pop

songs these like three-minute long pop

songs these like three-minute long pop songs I had these really kind of catchy

songs I had these really kind of catchy

songs I had these really kind of catchy choruses and it was perfect for radio

choruses and it was perfect for radio

choruses and it was perfect for radio but it wasn’t really doing that well

but it wasn’t really doing that well

but it wasn’t really doing that well people were really picking up on it um

people were really picking up on it um

people were really picking up on it um they weren’t really connecting to it at

they weren’t really connecting to it at

they weren’t really connecting to it at all and me personally worst of all I

all and me personally worst of all I

all and me personally worst of all I didn’t really like it at all you know I

didn’t really like it at all you know I

didn’t really like it at all you know I was getting sick of playing it already

was getting sick of playing it already

was getting sick of playing it already and it only just come out and I was

and it only just come out and I was

and it only just come out and I was getting really frustrated by that and

getting really frustrated by that and

getting really frustrated by that and usually when you’re in an electronic

usually when you’re in an electronic

usually when you’re in an electronic music producer it kind of works like

music producer it kind of works like

music producer it kind of works like this let’s say you want to put a snare

this let’s say you want to put a snare

this let’s say you want to put a snare drum sound in a song okay you download

drum sound in a song okay you download

drum sound in a song okay you download 100 snare sounds from the internet and

100 snare sounds from the internet and

100 snare sounds from the internet and then you go through them and then you

then you go through them and then you

then you go through them and then you find one that you like and then you put

find one that you like and then you put

find one that you like and then you put it into the song now

it into the song now

it into the song now that doesn’t really mean anything you’re

that doesn’t really mean anything you’re

that doesn’t really mean anything you’re kind of taking a sound because you think

kind of taking a sound because you think

kind of taking a sound because you think it sounds right you think it sounds like

it sounds right you think it sounds like

it sounds right you think it sounds like what this music should say I’m what does

what this music should say I’m what does

what this music should say I’m what does genres sound like and I was getting

genres sound like and I was getting

genres sound like and I was getting really frustrated by this um and during

really frustrated by this um and during

really frustrated by this um and during that same time when I was feeling really

that same time when I was feeling really

that same time when I was feeling really frustrated I was helping my grandmother

frustrated I was helping my grandmother

frustrated I was helping my grandmother clean at her house um and on her dresser

clean at her house um and on her dresser

clean at her house um and on her dresser there was a CD and it was like a blank

there was a CD and it was like a blank

there was a CD and it was like a blank little CD and it just had her name Mary

little CD and it just had her name Mary

little CD and it just had her name Mary Keene just over it and I asked her what

Keene just over it and I asked her what

Keene just over it and I asked her what it was and she said oh this is an

it was and she said oh this is an

it was and she said oh this is an interview that I did with a lady who was

interview that I did with a lady who was

interview that I did with a lady who was making a radio show she came to the

making a radio show she came to the

making a radio show she came to the house and basically the radio show never

house and basically the radio show never

house and basically the radio show never got made and she just sent me two CD

got made and she just sent me two CD

got made and she just sent me two CD of the of the interview so I robbed the

of the of the interview so I robbed the

of the of the interview so I robbed the CD of course and I took it with me and I

CD of course and I took it with me and I

CD of course and I took it with me and I put it into my car and I started playing

put it into my car and I started playing

put it into my car and I started playing the interview and I kind of starts like

the interview and I kind of starts like

the interview and I kind of starts like this

this

this well my name is Mary Keane I live in

well my name is Mary Keane I live in

well my name is Mary Keane I live in Bell Ivana but I was real to kill

Bell Ivana but I was real to kill

Bell Ivana but I was real to kill Shannon sleeving a brightly shining

Shannon sleeving a brightly shining

Shannon sleeving a brightly shining about 1925 so now so this interview was

about 1925 so now so this interview was

about 1925 so now so this interview was about two hours long

about two hours long

about two hours long okay and in it she talks about growing

okay and in it she talks about growing

okay and in it she talks about growing up in clear what it was like what her

up in clear what it was like what her

up in clear what it was like what her family was like she goes off on some

family was like she goes off on some

family was like she goes off on some pretty weird tangents and for instance

pretty weird tangents and for instance

pretty weird tangents and for instance she does start talking about chickens

she does start talking about chickens

she does start talking about chickens and chickens that can’t lay eggs

and chickens that can’t lay eggs

and chickens that can’t lay eggs once the wouldn’t didn’t there’s two

once the wouldn’t didn’t there’s two

once the wouldn’t didn’t there’s two Karam juegos

you might even lock in blue girls and

you might even lock in blue girls and then have to get rid of that cop he was

then have to get rid of that cop he was

then have to get rid of that cop he was no next year eighteen is gonna do a talk

no next year eighteen is gonna do a talk

no next year eighteen is gonna do a talk chickens probably other things and so

chickens probably other things and so

chickens probably other things and so then that was going on and then she

then that was going on and then she

then that was going on and then she started talking about how she met her

started talking about how she met her

started talking about how she met her husband he was my grandfather um and as

husband he was my grandfather um and as

husband he was my grandfather um and as I was driving this came over on my

I was driving this came over on my

I was driving this came over on my stereo then all the time when you’d be

stereo then all the time when you’d be

stereo then all the time when you’d be at home and your father and Debbie are

at home and your father and Debbie are

at home and your father and Debbie are was looking for a good man field you

was looking for a good man field you

was looking for a good man field you know of course I didn’t ever expect to

know of course I didn’t ever expect to

know of course I didn’t ever expect to get somewhere only somewhere I fell in

get somewhere only somewhere I fell in

get somewhere only somewhere I fell in love and my father did come and my uncle

love and my father did come and my uncle

love and my father did come and my uncle and it said marry this man over and

and it said marry this man over and

and it said marry this man over and Karen has a brief affair of my land you

Karen has a brief affair of my land you

Karen has a brief affair of my land you have to go over and meet so no I didn’t

have to go over and meet so no I didn’t

have to go over and meet so no I didn’t I make my future husband down and killed

I make my future husband down and killed

I make my future husband down and killed for Nora and I feel in love oh

for Nora and I feel in love oh

for Nora and I feel in love oh so there’s a couple of reasons why this

so there’s a couple of reasons why this

so there’s a couple of reasons why this is an absolutely incredible sample okay

is an absolutely incredible sample okay

is an absolutely incredible sample okay number one okay it has an incredible

number one okay it has an incredible

number one okay it has an incredible sense of place it feels really Irish you

sense of place it feels really Irish you

sense of place it feels really Irish you know her accents the turn of phrase the

know her accents the turn of phrase the

know her accents the turn of phrase the subject matter it all feels really Irish

subject matter it all feels really Irish

subject matter it all feels really Irish number two it’s full of emotion okay you

number two it’s full of emotion okay you

number two it’s full of emotion okay you can hear this woman talking about the

can hear this woman talking about the

can hear this woman talking about the person she fell in love with you can

person she fell in love with you can

person she fell in love with you can hear the

hear the

hear the in her voice it’d be really hard to

in her voice it’d be really hard to

in her voice it’d be really hard to recreate this with an actor or something

recreate this with an actor or something

recreate this with an actor or something like that you know um and then third of

like that you know um and then third of

like that you know um and then third of all it meant something to me it was

all it meant something to me it was

all it meant something to me it was incredibly personal to me okay this is

incredibly personal to me okay this is

incredibly personal to me okay this is my grandmother talking about how she met

my grandmother talking about how she met

my grandmother talking about how she met my grandfather he can’t really get much

my grandfather he can’t really get much

my grandfather he can’t really get much more personal than that um I was just

more personal than that um I was just

more personal than that um I was just blown away by it and I brought it home

blown away by it and I brought it home

blown away by it and I brought it home and I started writing music with it and

and I started writing music with it and

and I started writing music with it and I started creating these really hopeful

I started creating these really hopeful

I started creating these really hopeful chords based on the kind of subject

chords based on the kind of subject

chords based on the kind of subject matter and it basically turned into this

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[Music] I didn’t ever expect to get some Maroney

I didn’t ever expect to get some Maroney

I didn’t ever expect to get some Maroney somewhere I feel acknowledged my father

somewhere I feel acknowledged my father

somewhere I feel acknowledged my father didn’t come and mile trip home

didn’t come and mile trip home

didn’t come and mile trip home and it said marry this man Orange

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[Music] I

I should get some minority somewhere i

I should get some minority somewhere i Freeland open and my father to come and

Freeland open and my father to come and

Freeland open and my father to come and my we live call and he said marry this

my we live call and he said marry this

my we live call and he said marry this man over in Chatham is a beach Maryland

so I remember so clearly the night that

so I remember so clearly the night that this all came together all came together

this all came together all came together

this all came together all came together in one row and it was only about like

in one row and it was only about like

in one row and it was only about like three or four hours and it was just

three or four hours and it was just

three or four hours and it was just suddenly there you know um it was

suddenly there you know um it was

suddenly there you know um it was incredible to me because I just focused

incredible to me because I just focused

incredible to me because I just focused on one single sample that meant

on one single sample that meant

on one single sample that meant something to me personally and was

something to me personally and was

something to me personally and was steeped in my culture and I had made

steeped in my culture and I had made

steeped in my culture and I had made something that I was more proud of than

something that I was more proud of than

something that I was more proud of than anything I’ve made in about four years

anything I’ve made in about four years

anything I’ve made in about four years of playing music it was just like a

of playing music it was just like a

of playing music it was just like a Eureka moment like a I got a switch

Eureka moment like a I got a switch

Eureka moment like a I got a switch going off and then three months later it

going off and then three months later it

going off and then three months later it came out and it immediately started

came out and it immediately started

came out and it immediately started getting a lot of traction online radio

getting a lot of traction online radio

getting a lot of traction online radio stations started playing it all the time

stations started playing it all the time

stations started playing it all the time and it went on Spotify and it shot up to

and it went on Spotify and it shot up to

and it went on Spotify and it shot up to the top of the Spotify viral charts and

the top of the Spotify viral charts and

the top of the Spotify viral charts and stayed there for six weeks

stayed there for six weeks

stayed there for six weeks people were just really really in love

people were just really really in love

people were just really really in love with it they could relate to it it was

with it they could relate to it it was

with it they could relate to it it was it was it spoke to them on a kind of a

it was it spoke to them on a kind of a

it was it spoke to them on a kind of a real Irish level and it was an

real Irish level and it was an

real Irish level and it was an incredible moment and and most

incredible moment and and most

incredible moment and and most importantly it was different okay so it

importantly it was different okay so it

importantly it was different okay so it was a completely different thing nobody

was a completely different thing nobody

was a completely different thing nobody else was creating this and no one else

else was creating this and no one else

else was creating this and no one else could create that because it’s so

could create that because it’s so

could create that because it’s so personal you know and that for me is

personal you know and that for me is

personal you know and that for me is like the Holy Grail when you’re creating

like the Holy Grail when you’re creating

like the Holy Grail when you’re creating art if you can create something that

art if you can create something that

art if you can create something that nobody else can create that’s how you

nobody else can create that’s how you

nobody else can create that’s how you make incredible art and it’s not a

make incredible art and it’s not a

make incredible art and it’s not a massively new idea you know this has

massively new idea you know this has

massively new idea you know this has been around for years as long as the art

been around for years as long as the art

been around for years as long as the art has been around you know and you can see

has been around you know and you can see

has been around you know and you can see it in certain kind of sections of art

it in certain kind of sections of art

it in certain kind of sections of art more than you can see it in other ones

more than you can see it in other ones

more than you can see it in other ones let’s take a singer-songwriter okay so

let’s take a singer-songwriter okay so

let’s take a singer-songwriter okay so singer signer it comes in and they have

singer signer it comes in and they have

singer signer it comes in and they have this guitar that they’ve had for years

this guitar that they’ve had for years

this guitar that they’ve had for years and they pick it up and it has a big

and they pick it up and it has a big

and they pick it up and it has a big story and then just before they start

story and then just before they start

story and then just before they start their song they go this is a song about

their song they go this is a song about

their song they go this is a song about and then they start talking about the

and then they start talking about the

and then they start talking about the song that they’re about to play and then

song that they’re about to play and then

song that they’re about to play and then when they started playing people just

when they started playing people just

when they started playing people just hang on every word you know they’re

hang on every word you know they’re

hang on every word you know they’re really really interested in the song and

really really interested in the song and

really really interested in the song and they can relate to it another example

they can relate to it another example

they can relate to it another example would be creative writing okay the first

would be creative writing okay the first

would be creative writing okay the first rule that you get when you start

rule that you get when you start

rule that you get when you start creative writing write about what you

creative writing write about what you

creative writing write about what you know and that’s exactly the exact same

know and that’s exactly the exact same

know and that’s exactly the exact same I’m kind of idea as the idea that I’m

I’m kind of idea as the idea that I’m

I’m kind of idea as the idea that I’m talking about here you’re using your

talking about here you’re using your

talking about here you’re using your culture your history who you are to

culture your history who you are to

culture your history who you are to write something that’s unique to you and

write something that’s unique to you and

write something that’s unique to you and then you can start spreading it out to a

then you can start spreading it out to a

then you can start spreading it out to a whole load of new avenues okay and let’s

whole load of new avenues okay and let’s

whole load of new avenues okay and let’s say you’re painting a picture okay are

say you’re painting a picture okay are

say you’re painting a picture okay are you painting a kind of a Vista or a

you painting a kind of a Vista or a

you painting a kind of a Vista or a scenery scene are you painting an object

scenery scene are you painting an object

scenery scene are you painting an object why are you painting it you know does

why are you painting it you know does

why are you painting it you know does this relate to you somehow are you just

this relate to you somehow are you just

this relate to you somehow are you just painting something because you think it

painting something because you think it

painting something because you think it looks pretty it has to relate back to

looks pretty it has to relate back to

looks pretty it has to relate back to you that’s super super important you can

you that’s super super important you can

you that’s super super important you can spread it back even further you know

spread it back even further you know

spread it back even further you know what are the materials

what are the materials

what are the materials you know even the canvas did you just

you know even the canvas did you just

you know even the canvas did you just buy a canvas in a shop or are you

buy a canvas in a shop or are you

buy a canvas in a shop or are you painting on something that relates to

painting on something that relates to

painting on something that relates to the thing that you’re creating I

the thing that you’re creating I

the thing that you’re creating I guarantee you that if you’re creating

guarantee you that if you’re creating

guarantee you that if you’re creating something and you just keep questioning

something and you just keep questioning

something and you just keep questioning why you’re putting in all the elements

why you’re putting in all the elements

why you’re putting in all the elements that you’re putting in and you just keep

that you’re putting in and you just keep

that you’re putting in and you just keep asking why am I doing this how does this

asking why am I doing this how does this

asking why am I doing this how does this relate to me I guarantee you you’ll

relate to me I guarantee you you’ll

relate to me I guarantee you you’ll create something that nobody else can

create something that nobody else can

create something that nobody else can create it’s a really big moment you know

create it’s a really big moment you know

create it’s a really big moment you know I’m gonna leave you one more track and

I’m gonna leave you one more track and

I’m gonna leave you one more track and this track is called falling for you is

this track is called falling for you is

this track is called falling for you is from my latest EP um and it basically

from my latest EP um and it basically

from my latest EP um and it basically shows you exactly what I like now um

shows you exactly what I like now um

shows you exactly what I like now um let’s go back to the see sample that we

let’s go back to the see sample that we

let’s go back to the see sample that we had at the start okay so this see sample

had at the start okay so this see sample

had at the start okay so this see sample was recorded in Bishop’s quarters and

was recorded in Bishop’s quarters and

was recorded in Bishop’s quarters and painted Claire it’s where my parents

painted Claire it’s where my parents

painted Claire it’s where my parents used to bring me when I was younger um

used to bring me when I was younger um

used to bring me when I was younger um so it’s kind of my first foray into the

so it’s kind of my first foray into the

so it’s kind of my first foray into the West of Ireland I guess um and then I

West of Ireland I guess um and then I

West of Ireland I guess um and then I was in Akal with a couple of my mates

was in Akal with a couple of my mates

was in Akal with a couple of my mates last year and we were staying at a house

last year and we were staying at a house

last year and we were staying at a house and there was his beautiful wind chimes

and there was his beautiful wind chimes

and there was his beautiful wind chimes that were up on the side of the of the

that were up on the side of the of the

that were up on the side of the of the house and that would be

house and that would be

house and that would be I just lifted around and meaner than

I just lifted around and meaner than

I just lifted around and meaner than malady okay when I was recording this EP

malady okay when I was recording this EP

malady okay when I was recording this EP I really wanted to just soak myself in

I really wanted to just soak myself in

I really wanted to just soak myself in the West of Ireland which is possible

the West of Ireland which is possible

the West of Ireland which is possible didn’t want to go into studios or

didn’t want to go into studios or

didn’t want to go into studios or anything like that so I started renting

anything like that so I started renting

anything like that so I started renting out houses all along the west coast and

out houses all along the west coast and

out houses all along the west coast and building little media studios because I

building little media studios because I

building little media studios because I wanted to just be in the moment and be

wanted to just be in the moment and be

wanted to just be in the moment and be in the West of Ireland for me to get it

in the West of Ireland for me to get it

in the West of Ireland for me to get it and in one of those houses

and in one of those houses

and in one of those houses I was cooking and I managed to find a

I was cooking and I managed to find a

I was cooking and I managed to find a jar with some rice in it you guessed it

jar with some rice in it you guessed it

jar with some rice in it you guessed it that’s this here so that’s three

that’s this here so that’s three

that’s this here so that’s three elements okay

elements okay

elements okay of a song and already to me that really

of a song and already to me that really

of a song and already to me that really sounds like the West of Ireland you know

sounds like the West of Ireland you know

sounds like the West of Ireland you know to create the kind of an atmosphere and

to create the kind of an atmosphere and

to create the kind of an atmosphere and you feel like you’re in the West of

you feel like you’re in the West of

you feel like you’re in the West of Ireland and that’s three samples that I

Ireland and that’s three samples that I

Ireland and that’s three samples that I did explain and then I wanted to get a

did explain and then I wanted to get a

did explain and then I wanted to get a vocalist on this track so I I got my

vocalist on this track so I I got my

vocalist on this track so I I got my good friend egg white and instead of

good friend egg white and instead of

good friend egg white and instead of bringing her to a studio in Dublin like

bringing her to a studio in Dublin like

bringing her to a studio in Dublin like we usually would I brought her to the

we usually would I brought her to the

we usually would I brought her to the Zeleny Island and Carrie and we spent

Zeleny Island and Carrie and we spent

Zeleny Island and Carrie and we spent about a week recording the vocals and

about a week recording the vocals and

about a week recording the vocals and and Shea fell in love with the West of

and Shea fell in love with the West of

and Shea fell in love with the West of Ireland she saw my love for him and

Ireland she saw my love for him and

Ireland she saw my love for him and because the doc she wanted to make that

because the doc she wanted to make that

because the doc she wanted to make that the

I guess the vocal kind of ideas you know

I guess the vocal kind of ideas you know and fun denote sir because this was to

and fun denote sir because this was to

and fun denote sir because this was to continue a thing we were trying to sound

continue a thing we were trying to sound

continue a thing we were trying to sound like a West of Ireland she started

like a West of Ireland she started

like a West of Ireland she started getting this like Irish live in her

getting this like Irish live in her

getting this like Irish live in her voice which is really really unique and

voice which is really really unique and

voice which is really really unique and even though she was still singing the

even though she was still singing the

even though she was still singing the contemporary song

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for me

for me [Music]

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and the trees whisper words of both let

and the trees whisper words of both let me know

me know

me know [Music]

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