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for more than a decade I have been

for more than a decade I have been obsessed with this idea of exaptation

obsessed with this idea of exaptation

obsessed with this idea of exaptation exaptation is a concept from

exaptation is a concept from

exaptation is a concept from evolutionary biology and it’s when

evolutionary biology and it’s when

evolutionary biology and it’s when something that originally evolved

something that originally evolved

something that originally evolved because of one set of survival

because of one set of survival

because of one set of survival advantages gets serendipitously co-opted

advantages gets serendipitously co-opted

advantages gets serendipitously co-opted for something completely different and

for something completely different and

for something completely different and thrives there the quintessential example

thrives there the quintessential example

thrives there the quintessential example is birds feathers feathers originally

is birds feathers feathers originally

is birds feathers feathers originally evolved because they kept animals warm

evolved because they kept animals warm

evolved because they kept animals warm they trapped a lot of air and air is a

they trapped a lot of air and air is a

they trapped a lot of air and air is a good insulator if you’re an animal with

good insulator if you’re an animal with

good insulator if you’re an animal with a lot of feathers trapping a lot of air

a lot of feathers trapping a lot of air

a lot of feathers trapping a lot of air and a predator chases you off a cliff

and a predator chases you off a cliff

and a predator chases you off a cliff instead of plummeting down and dying you

instead of plummeting down and dying you

instead of plummeting down and dying you might flutter down and survive and that

might flutter down and survive and that

might flutter down and survive and that means you get to reproduce and you give

means you get to reproduce and you give

means you get to reproduce and you give time for those feathers many generations

time for those feathers many generations

time for those feathers many generations to evolve into something completely

to evolve into something completely

to evolve into something completely different like flight so flight is a

different like flight so flight is a

different like flight so flight is a serendipitous exaptation of warmth think

serendipitous exaptation of warmth think

serendipitous exaptation of warmth think about that the next time you zip up your

about that the next time you zip up your

about that the next time you zip up your down jacket now why am I so obsessed

down jacket now why am I so obsessed

down jacket now why am I so obsessed with this I’m not a biologist I’m a

with this I’m not a biologist I’m a

with this I’m not a biologist I’m a software architect and I’m not

software architect and I’m not

software architect and I’m not particularly interested in flight what I

particularly interested in flight what I

particularly interested in flight what I am interested in is how people have good

am interested in is how people have good

am interested in is how people have good ideas and I think that exaptation holds

ideas and I think that exaptation holds

ideas and I think that exaptation holds the key I think that exaptation is not

the key I think that exaptation is not

the key I think that exaptation is not just a biological phenomenon but it’s a

just a biological phenomenon but it’s a

just a biological phenomenon but it’s a cognitive one and that most of those big

cognitive one and that most of those big

cognitive one and that most of those big aha moments of innovation are moments

aha moments of innovation are moments

aha moments of innovation are moments when somebody realizes often

when somebody realizes often

when somebody realizes often serendipitously that’s something they

serendipitously that’s something they

serendipitously that’s something they thought only applied in one context can

thought only applied in one context can

thought only applied in one context can actually be applied somewhere else

actually be applied somewhere else

actually be applied somewhere else harvard university created the

harvard university created the

harvard university created the astronomical medicine team after the

astronomical medicine team after the

astronomical medicine team after the serendipitous discovery that the 3d

serendipitous discovery that the 3d

serendipitous discovery that the 3d imaging techniques that doctors used to

imaging techniques that doctors used to

imaging techniques that doctors used to explore a brain if applied at a vastly

explore a brain if applied at a vastly

explore a brain if applied at a vastly different scale can help astronomers

different scale can help astronomers

different scale can help astronomers explore a supernova this is just one

explore a supernova this is just one

explore a supernova this is just one example of mental exaptation zin history

example of mental exaptation zin history

example of mental exaptation zin history is replete with these sorts of antidotes

is replete with these sorts of antidotes

is replete with these sorts of antidotes anecdotes and I like to tell them but

anecdotes and I like to tell them but

anecdotes and I like to tell them but what I don’t like is how prominently

what I don’t like is how prominently

what I don’t like is how prominently serendipity plays a role in these

serendipity plays a role in these

serendipity plays a role in these equations that’s why for the last six

equations that’s why for the last six

equations that’s why for the last six years my team’s been working on

years my team’s been working on

years my team’s been working on developing the right set of tools the

developing the right set of tools the

developing the right set of tools the right conditions

right conditions

right conditions the right environment in which mental

the right environment in which mental

the right environment in which mental except ations can flourish we believe

except ations can flourish we believe

except ations can flourish we believe that by understanding how good ideas

that by understanding how good ideas

that by understanding how good ideas happen we can create virtual software

happen we can create virtual software

happen we can create virtual software environments that help people have more

environments that help people have more

environments that help people have more of them over the next few minutes we’ll

of them over the next few minutes we’ll

of them over the next few minutes we’ll listen to what it sounds like when new

listen to what it sounds like when new

listen to what it sounds like when new ideas are born and not born just from

ideas are born and not born just from

ideas are born and not born just from serendipity but from intentional

serendipity but from intentional

serendipity but from intentional facilitation from a set of interactions

facilitation from a set of interactions

facilitation from a set of interactions that I believe can be optimized can

that I believe can be optimized can

that I believe can be optimized can scale and when scaled can dramatically

scale and when scaled can dramatically

scale and when scaled can dramatically change the way innovation happens today

change the way innovation happens today

change the way innovation happens today a couple weeks ago I set up a meeting

a couple weeks ago I set up a meeting

a couple weeks ago I set up a meeting between these two people dr. Christoph

between these two people dr. Christoph

between these two people dr. Christoph Diaz PhD scientist who lives in Boston

Diaz PhD scientist who lives in Boston

Diaz PhD scientist who lives in Boston and is a program manager at cowan

and is a program manager at cowan

and is a program manager at cowan veterans Biosciences that’s doing

veterans Biosciences that’s doing

veterans Biosciences that’s doing research on post-traumatic stress

research on post-traumatic stress

research on post-traumatic stress disorder and somebody some of you may

disorder and somebody some of you may

disorder and somebody some of you may recognize he’s here in the audience

recognize he’s here in the audience

recognize he’s here in the audience today dr. David Vishnoi associate

today dr. David Vishnoi associate

today dr. David Vishnoi associate professor of Religious Studies right

professor of Religious Studies right

professor of Religious Studies right here at OU you specializing in Islamic

here at OU you specializing in Islamic

here at OU you specializing in Islamic hermeneutics these people had never met

hermeneutics these people had never met

hermeneutics these people had never met before and I didn’t set up this meeting

before and I didn’t set up this meeting

before and I didn’t set up this meeting because they particularly wanted to meet

because they particularly wanted to meet

because they particularly wanted to meet in fact you can listen to Christoph just

in fact you can listen to Christoph just

in fact you can listen to Christoph just before the meeting any idea of what you

before the meeting any idea of what you

before the meeting any idea of what you and David ish not having home besides

and David ish not having home besides

and David ish not having home besides what botha went to Fez do I have the

what botha went to Fez do I have the

what botha went to Fez do I have the right one the professor and I guess I’m

right one the professor and I guess I’m

right one the professor and I guess I’m stuck first off has no idea why I’ve set

stuck first off has no idea why I’ve set

stuck first off has no idea why I’ve set up this meeting and I can assure you

up this meeting and I can assure you

up this meeting and I can assure you that it’s not because they had both been

that it’s not because they had both been

that it’s not because they had both been to Fez what they had in common is that

to Fez what they had in common is that

to Fez what they had in common is that over the last year they had both

over the last year they had both

over the last year they had both participated in an experimental new

participated in an experimental new

participated in an experimental new platform my team’s been developing

platform my team’s been developing

platform my team’s been developing called the cognitive Network it’s like a

called the cognitive Network it’s like a

called the cognitive Network it’s like a social network because it connects

social network because it connects

social network because it connects people together but it’s not about being

people together but it’s not about being

people together but it’s not about being social it’s about facilitating thought

social it’s about facilitating thought

social it’s about facilitating thought and the first step in a cognitive

and the first step in a cognitive

and the first step in a cognitive network is to get the ideas in people’s

network is to get the ideas in people’s

network is to get the ideas in people’s heads into a tangible format so that

heads into a tangible format so that

heads into a tangible format so that they can become first-class citizen

they can become first-class citizen

they can become first-class citizen nodes in the network with everything

nodes in the network with everything

nodes in the network with everything else now there’s many different ways

else now there’s many different ways

else now there’s many different ways that ideas can take tangible form but I

that ideas can take tangible form but I

that ideas can take tangible form but I work in software so what my team is

work in software so what my team is

work in software so what my team is developed is a set of tools that makes

developed is a set of tools that makes

developed is a set of tools that makes it easy to translate ideas into software

it easy to translate ideas into software

it easy to translate ideas into software apps and because we’re interested in

apps and because we’re interested in

apps and because we’re interested in exaptation we call

exaptation we call

exaptation we call these apps zaps when David first joined

these apps zaps when David first joined

these apps zaps when David first joined the cognitive Network the idea he was

the cognitive Network the idea he was

the cognitive Network the idea he was interested in pursuing was how to

interested in pursuing was how to

interested in pursuing was how to explore the conceptual landscape of

explore the conceptual landscape of

explore the conceptual landscape of every book ever written on his

every book ever written on his

every book ever written on his particular topic of interest and how to

particular topic of interest and how to

particular topic of interest and how to curate those concepts in the act of

curate those concepts in the act of

curate those concepts in the act of writing his own book so we worked

writing his own book so we worked

writing his own book so we worked together to build this app that used a

together to build this app that used a

together to build this app that used a bunch of different data science

bunch of different data science

bunch of different data science techniques and linked visualizations to

techniques and linked visualizations to

techniques and linked visualizations to help him explore tens of thousands of

help him explore tens of thousands of

help him explore tens of thousands of books returned by queries to the OE

books returned by queries to the OE

books returned by queries to the OE library databases when Christoph joined

library databases when Christoph joined

library databases when Christoph joined the cognitive Network he was interested

the cognitive Network he was interested

the cognitive Network he was interested in many different things but one of the

in many different things but one of the

in many different things but one of the things he was interested in was how to

things he was interested in was how to

things he was interested in was how to help his researchers explore all of the

help his researchers explore all of the

help his researchers explore all of the medical literature that had been written

medical literature that had been written

medical literature that had been written about PTSD when the two of them realized

about PTSD when the two of them realized

about PTSD when the two of them realized that they had these very similar zaps in

that they had these very similar zaps in

that they had these very similar zaps in common they didn’t waste any time

common they didn’t waste any time

common they didn’t waste any time talking about Fez David dug right into

talking about Fez David dug right into

talking about Fez David dug right into some specific details how do there’s

some specific details how do there’s

some specific details how do there’s miracle settings on question seriously

miracle settings on question seriously

miracle settings on question seriously riveted on the left hand side how do you

riveted on the left hand side how do you

riveted on the left hand side how do you have on YouTube he knows I haven’t used

have on YouTube he knows I haven’t used

have on YouTube he knows I haven’t used the tool as much as you have and so this

the tool as much as you have and so this

the tool as much as you have and so this is where um we focused more on this

is where um we focused more on this

is where um we focused more on this other tool that i think david has also

other tool that i think david has also

other tool that i think david has also on one of this time to take it a step

on one of this time to take it a step

on one of this time to take it a step further so what’s happening here is

further so what’s happening here is

further so what’s happening here is david’s asks about a very specific

david’s asks about a very specific

david’s asks about a very specific feature set in the tool and christoph is

feature set in the tool and christoph is

feature set in the tool and christoph is not familiar with those settings because

not familiar with those settings because

not familiar with those settings because actually his tool doesn’t have those

actually his tool doesn’t have those

actually his tool doesn’t have those settings these apps are similar but

settings these apps are similar but

settings these apps are similar but they’re not exactly the same and so he

they’re not exactly the same and so he

they’re not exactly the same and so he sidesteps the question by changing the

sidesteps the question by changing the

sidesteps the question by changing the topic to another zap that he is more

topic to another zap that he is more

topic to another zap that he is more familiar with but because apps are so

familiar with but because apps are so

familiar with but because apps are so accessible and tangible he can

accessible and tangible he can

accessible and tangible he can immediately give David a demo looking at

immediately give David a demo looking at

immediately give David a demo looking at the four or five concept that we’ve

the four or five concept that we’ve

the four or five concept that we’ve picked and it compares them to all the

picked and it compares them to all the

picked and it compares them to all the concepts that exists in the model in

concepts that exists in the model in

concepts that exists in the model in this case 1 1600 and is looking at what

this case 1 1600 and is looking at what

this case 1 1600 and is looking at what half exists if any between the concept

half exists if any between the concept

half exists if any between the concept that you chose and all of them are in

that you chose and all of them are in

that you chose and all of them are in the model this will give an example you

the model this will give an example you

the model this will give an example you pick up this one you see how do you go

pick up this one you see how do you go

pick up this one you see how do you go from dopamine to this other concept you

from dopamine to this other concept you

from dopamine to this other concept you can go between those two concept yet

can go between those two concept yet

can go between those two concept yet different paths and this represent

different paths and this represent

different paths and this represent biological experiments and results of

biological experiments and results of

biological experiments and results of people reserve

people reserve

people reserve used literature now there’s something

used literature now there’s something

used literature now there’s something subtle that’s happening here so I need

subtle that’s happening here so I need

subtle that’s happening here so I need to point it out but it’s important

to point it out but it’s important

to point it out but it’s important because it gets right to the heart of

because it gets right to the heart of

because it gets right to the heart of one of the biggest challenges of

one of the biggest challenges of

one of the biggest challenges of cross-disciplinary collaboration and

cross-disciplinary collaboration and

cross-disciplinary collaboration and that’s domain-specific languages when

that’s domain-specific languages when

that’s domain-specific languages when two experts from different domains come

two experts from different domains come

two experts from different domains come together they’re rarely using the same

together they’re rarely using the same

together they’re rarely using the same language even if it sounds like they’re

language even if it sounds like they’re

language even if it sounds like they’re using the same words I’ve watched

using the same words I’ve watched

using the same words I’ve watched Christoph give this demo many many times

Christoph give this demo many many times

Christoph give this demo many many times and I’ve never heard him use the word

and I’ve never heard him use the word

and I’ve never heard him use the word concept he always uses the word entity

concept he always uses the word entity

concept he always uses the word entity but when he gives the demo to David he

but when he gives the demo to David he

but when he gives the demo to David he uses the word concept five times in 30

uses the word concept five times in 30

uses the word concept five times in 30 seconds and that’s because he knows what

seconds and that’s because he knows what

seconds and that’s because he knows what he and David have in common which are

he and David have in common which are

he and David have in common which are zaps around concept mapping and so he

zaps around concept mapping and so he

zaps around concept mapping and so he intuitively finds a set of terminology

intuitively finds a set of terminology

intuitively finds a set of terminology that he thinks has the best chance of

that he thinks has the best chance of

that he thinks has the best chance of resonating with David and David in

resonating with David and David in

resonating with David and David in response is able to use Christoph zap as

response is able to use Christoph zap as

response is able to use Christoph zap as a prop for his own communication to be

a prop for his own communication to be

a prop for his own communication to be in terms that he thinks will resonate

in terms that he thinks will resonate

in terms that he thinks will resonate most with Christophe huge leap here is

most with Christophe huge leap here is

most with Christophe huge leap here is that we remember that co-occurrence is

that we remember that co-occurrence is

that we remember that co-occurrence is known as a very concept you have you

known as a very concept you have you

known as a very concept you have you kind of try to look at the content and

kind of try to look at the content and

kind of try to look at the content and determine it over when dopamine and

determine it over when dopamine and

determine it over when dopamine and something else appear in this article

something else appear in this article

something else appear in this article there’s a specific kind of relationship

there’s a specific kind of relationship

there’s a specific kind of relationship in the old world or the side of evidence

in the old world or the side of evidence

in the old world or the side of evidence you find ontology how does the world

you find ontology how does the world

you find ontology how does the world working and you had to nap be stared at

working and you had to nap be stared at

working and you had to nap be stared at about co-occurrence you have to turn

about co-occurrence you have to turn

about co-occurrence you have to turn that into when dopamine occurs with

that into when dopamine occurs with

that into when dopamine occurs with whatever here that’s actually

whatever here that’s actually

whatever here that’s actually articulating idea you’re an increase in

articulating idea you’re an increase in

articulating idea you’re an increase in dopamine occurs increase and you know

dopamine occurs increase and you know

dopamine occurs increase and you know and that’s what I’m interested when a

and that’s what I’m interested when a

and that’s what I’m interested when a religious studies professor starts a

religious studies professor starts a

religious studies professor starts a sentence talking about dopamine and then

sentence talking about dopamine and then

sentence talking about dopamine and then ends it with that’s what I’m interested

ends it with that’s what I’m interested

ends it with that’s what I’m interested in that that’s when I get really excited

in that that’s when I get really excited

in that that’s when I get really excited and just like Christophe had moved the

and just like Christophe had moved the

and just like Christophe had moved the conversation in a different direction by

conversation in a different direction by

conversation in a different direction by bringing in a secondary zap David then

bringing in a secondary zap David then

bringing in a secondary zap David then moves the conversation in a different

moves the conversation in a different

moves the conversation in a different direction now that they know how to

direction now that they know how to

direction now that they know how to communicate by bringing in some of his

communicate by bringing in some of his

communicate by bringing in some of his latest work 30 different manuscripts of

latest work 30 different manuscripts of

latest work 30 different manuscripts of the Psalms of David not the ones you

the Psalms of David not the ones you

the Psalms of David not the ones you know in the Bible if once Muslims wrote

know in the Bible if once Muslims wrote

know in the Bible if once Muslims wrote when they just rewrote there’s some

when they just rewrote there’s some

when they just rewrote there’s some overlap between those texts but they did

overlap between those texts but they did

overlap between those texts but they did a lot of editing and it is a lot

a lot of editing and it is a lot

a lot of editing and it is a lot writing and then they added more

writing and then they added more

writing and then they added more dissident drop stuff here so you have

dissident drop stuff here so you have

dissident drop stuff here so you have these 30 manuscripts or so that have

these 30 manuscripts or so that have

these 30 manuscripts or so that have sort of the same text and trying to

sort of the same text and trying to

sort of the same text and trying to figure out which was the earlier text

figure out which was the earlier text

figure out which was the earlier text what each editor do let me now at this

what each editor do let me now at this

what each editor do let me now at this point I think it’s best to think of this

point I think it’s best to think of this

point I think it’s best to think of this discussion like a network and in fact I

discussion like a network and in fact I

discussion like a network and in fact I think it’s best to think of all ideas

think it’s best to think of all ideas

think it’s best to think of all ideas like networks ideas are not monolithic

like networks ideas are not monolithic

like networks ideas are not monolithic things there are networks of modular

things there are networks of modular

things there are networks of modular things and if we look at the discussions

things and if we look at the discussions

things and if we look at the discussions so far this is how we started with

so far this is how we started with

so far this is how we started with Kristoff and David connecting around the

Kristoff and David connecting around the

Kristoff and David connecting around the commonality of two zaps then Christoph

commonality of two zaps then Christoph

commonality of two zaps then Christoph brought in another zap that would had a

brought in another zap that would had a

brought in another zap that would had a little bit less in common with others

little bit less in common with others

little bit less in common with others and David brought in a project that also

and David brought in a project that also

and David brought in a project that also had less in common and this introduces a

had less in common and this introduces a

had less in common and this introduces a concept that i like to call exaptation

concept that i like to call exaptation

concept that i like to call exaptation distance which is I think there’s an

distance which is I think there’s an

distance which is I think there’s an optimal distance between ideas to

optimal distance between ideas to

optimal distance between ideas to promote exaptation ideas that are too

promote exaptation ideas that are too

promote exaptation ideas that are too close I think it’s easy to get lost in

close I think it’s easy to get lost in

close I think it’s easy to get lost in specific details as almost happened in

specific details as almost happened in

specific details as almost happened in the beginning of this conversation and

the beginning of this conversation and

the beginning of this conversation and ideas that are too far apart they’re

ideas that are too far apart they’re

ideas that are too far apart they’re just hard to bridge but we know we’re

just hard to bridge but we know we’re

just hard to bridge but we know we’re getting close to the optimal exaptation

getting close to the optimal exaptation

getting close to the optimal exaptation distance when david starts to make

distance when david starts to make

distance when david starts to make direct comparisons between his more

direct comparisons between his more

direct comparisons between his more distant work and kristof’s more distant

distant work and kristof’s more distant

distant work and kristof’s more distant work just to point out why Chris that’s

work just to point out why Chris that’s

work just to point out why Chris that’s cool here was looking really familiar so

cool here was looking really familiar so

cool here was looking really familiar so with these Psalms just map out

with these Psalms just map out

with these Psalms just map out relationships which texts are connected

relationships which texts are connected

relationships which texts are connected to which text or you can look at the one

to which text or you can look at the one

to which text or you can look at the one text to another which chunks of text got

text to another which chunks of text got

text to another which chunks of text got moved around from the text on the left

moved around from the text on the left

moved around from the text on the left of the text on the right and what news

of the text on the right and what news

of the text on the right and what news now i wish i had a functional MRI and

now i wish i had a functional MRI and

now i wish i had a functional MRI and EEG on Christoph and David as they were

EEG on Christoph and David as they were

EEG on Christoph and David as they were having this conversation because there’s

having this conversation because there’s

having this conversation because there’s actually been a lot of research most

actually been a lot of research most

actually been a lot of research most notably being done by by dr. mark demon

notably being done by by dr. mark demon

notably being done by by dr. mark demon about the areas of the brain that are

about the areas of the brain that are

about the areas of the brain that are active during problem solving versus

active during problem solving versus

active during problem solving versus during moments of insight normal

during moments of insight normal

during moments of insight normal problem-solving tends to rely on the

problem-solving tends to rely on the

problem-solving tends to rely on the prefrontal cortex and you can see that

prefrontal cortex and you can see that

prefrontal cortex and you can see that very clearly through EEG and MRI but

very clearly through EEG and MRI but

very clearly through EEG and MRI but moments of insight demons found rely on

moments of insight demons found rely on

moments of insight demons found rely on a different part of the brain called the

a different part of the brain called the

a different part of the brain called the a STG the anterior superior temporal

a STG the anterior superior temporal

a STG the anterior superior temporal gyrus and bman was able to detect

gyrus and bman was able to detect

gyrus and bman was able to detect predict moments before somebody solved

predict moments before somebody solved

predict moments before somebody solved an insight problem that they were about

an insight problem that they were about

an insight problem that they were about to just by looking at activation in the

to just by looking at activation in the

to just by looking at activation in the asdg now we didn’t have the benefit of

asdg now we didn’t have the benefit of

asdg now we didn’t have the benefit of Mr I we can’t rely on that so we have to

Mr I we can’t rely on that so we have to

Mr I we can’t rely on that so we have to wait for the indication through excited

wait for the indication through excited

wait for the indication through excited interruption you can take a whole bunch

interruption you can take a whole bunch

interruption you can take a whole bunch of text and say which ones including you

of text and say which ones including you

of text and say which ones including you just sorry I interrupted there can you

just sorry I interrupted there can you

just sorry I interrupted there can you just image Google synteny map so it

just image Google synteny map so it

just image Google synteny map so it looks like genome you’re at location

looks like genome you’re at location

looks like genome you’re at location between different species and the gene

between different species and the gene

between different species and the gene is in this part of the chromosome human

is in this part of the chromosome human

is in this part of the chromosome human where is it the mouse exactly is the

where is it the mouse exactly is the

where is it the mouse exactly is the entity I think you can can hear the

entity I think you can can hear the

entity I think you can can hear the tenor of the conversation start to

tenor of the conversation start to

tenor of the conversation start to change as these excitations start to

change as these excitations start to

change as these excitations start to happen this first one and accept ations

happen this first one and accept ations

happen this first one and accept ations are contagious i had a couple other

are contagious i had a couple other

are contagious i had a couple other members of my team listening in on this

members of my team listening in on this

members of my team listening in on this conversation and we were all trying very

conversation and we were all trying very

conversation and we were all trying very hard not to interrupt the conversation

hard not to interrupt the conversation

hard not to interrupt the conversation between David and Christoph but I think

between David and Christoph but I think

between David and Christoph but I think all of our AST geez were firing and

all of our AST geez were firing and

all of our AST geez were firing and Andrea had an idea that was definitely

Andrea had an idea that was definitely

Andrea had an idea that was definitely worthy of interruption also to bring in

worthy of interruption also to bring in

worthy of interruption also to bring in another random example do you know the

another random example do you know the

another random example do you know the benefit project where he took check-ins

benefit project where he took check-ins

benefit project where he took check-ins from github code if you search deep

from github code if you search deep

from github code if you search deep process if the technique that he

process if the technique that he

process if the technique that he developed to show like how code was

developed to show like how code was

developed to show like how code was edited so like how pieces of code got

edited so like how pieces of code got

edited so like how pieces of code got moved around in equipment and criminals

moved around in equipment and criminals

moved around in equipment and criminals use the text itself as the ground for

use the text itself as the ground for

use the text itself as the ground for visualization there’s something

visualization there’s something

visualization there’s something particularly interesting I think about

particularly interesting I think about

particularly interesting I think about Andrea’s exaptation and it’s that this

Andrea’s exaptation and it’s that this

Andrea’s exaptation and it’s that this project d process by Ben Frey is not

project d process by Ben Frey is not

project d process by Ben Frey is not actually about visualizing the edits of

actually about visualizing the edits of

actually about visualizing the edits of code through github this visualization

code through github this visualization

code through github this visualization is showing the looping structure of code

is showing the looping structure of code

is showing the looping structure of code but I think it would be a mistake to

but I think it would be a mistake to

but I think it would be a mistake to attribute this to just misremembering or

attribute this to just misremembering or

attribute this to just misremembering or the fal ability of memory I think that

the fal ability of memory I think that

the fal ability of memory I think that would be to presuppose that the most

would be to presuppose that the most

would be to presuppose that the most important job of memory is perfect

important job of memory is perfect

important job of memory is perfect recall which I think perhaps it is not

recall which I think perhaps it is not

recall which I think perhaps it is not just like one of the most important jobs

just like one of the most important jobs

just like one of the most important jobs of cell replication is to make mistakes

of cell replication is to make mistakes

of cell replication is to make mistakes because without mutation there can be no

because without mutation there can be no

because without mutation there can be no evolution of life I think in discussions

evolution of life I think in discussions

evolution of life I think in discussions like this one of the important jobs of

like this one of the important jobs of

like this one of the important jobs of our minds is too

our minds is too

our minds is too make mistakes so that there can be these

make mistakes so that there can be these

make mistakes so that there can be these mutations that live that lead to the

mutations that live that lead to the

mutations that live that lead to the evolution of new ideas I actually don’t

evolution of new ideas I actually don’t

evolution of new ideas I actually don’t think that Andria’s misremembering d

think that Andria’s misremembering d

think that Andria’s misremembering d process I think she’s just already

process I think she’s just already

process I think she’s just already synthesizing a number of different

synthesizing a number of different

synthesizing a number of different projects that she does know about of

projects that she does know about of

projects that she does know about of which there are many visualizations

which there are many visualizations

which there are many visualizations about edits in github into this idea of

about edits in github into this idea of

about edits in github into this idea of this exaptation which has actually led

this exaptation which has actually led

this exaptation which has actually led to perhaps the most tangible step

to perhaps the most tangible step

to perhaps the most tangible step forward for David displaying his own

forward for David displaying his own

forward for David displaying his own work he says at the end oh it never

work he says at the end oh it never

work he says at the end oh it never occurred to me that I could use the text

occurred to me that I could use the text

occurred to me that I could use the text itself as the ground for the

itself as the ground for the

itself as the ground for the visualization so look at what these X

visualization so look at what these X

visualization so look at what these X applications are doing to our idea

applications are doing to our idea

applications are doing to our idea network Christoph’s bringing in this

network Christoph’s bringing in this

network Christoph’s bringing in this idea from genetics andrea is bringing in

idea from genetics andrea is bringing in

idea from genetics andrea is bringing in the work of another designer that she’s

the work of another designer that she’s

the work of another designer that she’s familiar with one thing that’s important

familiar with one thing that’s important

familiar with one thing that’s important about this is that everything is

about this is that everything is

about this is that everything is grounded in very tangible artifacts and

grounded in very tangible artifacts and

grounded in very tangible artifacts and that’s important because conversations

that’s important because conversations

that’s important because conversations like this can easily spiral up and up

like this can easily spiral up and up

like this can easily spiral up and up into pie-in-the-sky ideas so vague to

into pie-in-the-sky ideas so vague to

into pie-in-the-sky ideas so vague to not be actionable but in our idea

not be actionable but in our idea

not be actionable but in our idea Network things are actually moving in

Network things are actually moving in

Network things are actually moving in the other direction they’re becoming

the other direction they’re becoming

the other direction they’re becoming more and more tangible and with a little

more and more tangible and with a little

more and more tangible and with a little bit more discussion David comes up with

bit more discussion David comes up with

bit more discussion David comes up with a very concrete idea for a new set of

a very concrete idea for a new set of

a very concrete idea for a new set of course those now if I could get a blank

course those now if I could get a blank

course those now if I could get a blank copy of that with let’s say a set of

copy of that with let’s say a set of

copy of that with let’s say a set of arabic text at this data set all

arabic text at this data set all

arabic text at this data set all enhanced you think what is the where do

enhanced you think what is the where do

enhanced you think what is the where do i enter a little piece of information

i enter a little piece of information

i enter a little piece of information when i read a text and then the place

when i read a text and then the place

when i read a text and then the place where i can customize the nature’s or

where i can customize the nature’s or

where i can customize the nature’s or the relationships to find relationships

the relationships to find relationships

the relationships to find relationships those are the only two things i need to

those are the only two things i need to

those are the only two things i need to be able to do and that there could even

be able to do and that there could even

be able to do and that there could even be just my way of keeping no doubt it

be just my way of keeping no doubt it

be just my way of keeping no doubt it finally will result in my book Yeah

finally will result in my book Yeah

finally will result in my book Yeah right but if I if I’m doing a lot of

right but if I if I’m doing a lot of

right but if I if I’m doing a lot of work over a 10-year project my book I’m

work over a 10-year project my book I’m

work over a 10-year project my book I’m going to have notes in one format or

going to have notes in one format or

going to have notes in one format or another it better not just me this time

another it better not just me this time

another it better not just me this time around three-by-five cards word document

around three-by-five cards word document

around three-by-five cards word document the charts or if I can take my notes in

the charts or if I can take my notes in

the charts or if I can take my notes in this kind of environment where I will

this kind of environment where I will

this kind of environment where I will then be able to use those notes in new

then be able to use those notes in new

then be able to use those notes in new ways that’s true that’s true EG so what

ways that’s true that’s true EG so what

ways that’s true that’s true EG so what started as a somewhat awkward

started as a somewhat awkward

started as a somewhat awkward introduction between two strangers has

introduction between two strangers has

introduction between two strangers has now led to a very

now led to a very

now led to a very create idea for a new sort of notetaking

create idea for a new sort of notetaking

create idea for a new sort of notetaking research tool and that idea actually has

research tool and that idea actually has

research tool and that idea actually has ninety percent of its groundwork already

ninety percent of its groundwork already

ninety percent of its groundwork already laid in work that’s been done in others

laid in work that’s been done in others

laid in work that’s been done in others apps now I’m not sharing this discussion

apps now I’m not sharing this discussion

apps now I’m not sharing this discussion with you because I think it’s the only

with you because I think it’s the only

with you because I think it’s the only time discussions has led to new ideas

time discussions has led to new ideas

time discussions has led to new ideas people have exciting discussions that

people have exciting discussions that

people have exciting discussions that lead to new ideas all the time all over

lead to new ideas all the time all over

lead to new ideas all the time all over the place in all sorts of environments

the place in all sorts of environments

the place in all sorts of environments but what I do think is new is the idea

but what I do think is new is the idea

but what I do think is new is the idea of using the lens of exaptation to look

of using the lens of exaptation to look

of using the lens of exaptation to look at ideas as networks so that we can

at ideas as networks so that we can

at ideas as networks so that we can actively facilitate innovation and we

actively facilitate innovation and we

actively facilitate innovation and we can facilitate it in a way that can

can facilitate it in a way that can

can facilitate it in a way that can scale if there’s one thing that

scale if there’s one thing that

scale if there’s one thing that technology is extremely good at doing

technology is extremely good at doing

technology is extremely good at doing today it’s building large-scale networks

today it’s building large-scale networks

today it’s building large-scale networks in very short periods of time over the

in very short periods of time over the

in very short periods of time over the next year Kristoff and I are working

next year Kristoff and I are working

next year Kristoff and I are working with Cohen veterans Biosciences to build

with Cohen veterans Biosciences to build

with Cohen veterans Biosciences to build a cognitive network that will help the

a cognitive network that will help the

a cognitive network that will help the mental exaptation of all of the

mental exaptation of all of the

mental exaptation of all of the researchers working on the hard problem

researchers working on the hard problem

researchers working on the hard problem of post-traumatic stress disorder

of post-traumatic stress disorder

of post-traumatic stress disorder David’s going to continue building zaps

David’s going to continue building zaps

David’s going to continue building zaps for his own research and my teams

for his own research and my teams

for his own research and my teams working hard to create a widespread open

working hard to create a widespread open

working hard to create a widespread open version of the cognitive Network that

version of the cognitive Network that

version of the cognitive Network that anyone can join these accept ations are

anyone can join these accept ations are

anyone can join these accept ations are just the beginning thank you very much

just the beginning thank you very much

just the beginning thank you very much [Applause]

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