good morning everyone so I’m not police I don’t work for the police I work with
I don’t work for the police I work with
I don’t work for the police I work with the police and have done for a number of
the police and have done for a number of
the police and have done for a number of years now actually work strictly
years now actually work strictly
years now actually work strictly speaking for you my job on a day to day
speaking for you my job on a day to day
speaking for you my job on a day to day basis is taking your needs your
basis is taking your needs your
basis is taking your needs your requirements of the police as a victim
requirements of the police as a victim
requirements of the police as a victim of a crime or as a taxpayer and turning
of a crime or as a taxpayer and turning
of a crime or as a taxpayer and turning those into the sorts of things we want
those into the sorts of things we want
those into the sorts of things we want the police to do making sure they’re
the police to do making sure they’re
the police to do making sure they’re efficient and effective making sure even
efficient and effective making sure even
efficient and effective making sure even if you are arrested for example on
if you are arrested for example on
if you are arrested for example on suspicion of a crime that you’re treated
suspicion of a crime that you’re treated
suspicion of a crime that you’re treated fairly and safely and that’s what this
fairly and safely and that’s what this
fairly and safely and that’s what this talk is about it’s about turning your
talk is about it’s about turning your
talk is about it’s about turning your needs and whatever capacity whatever way
needs and whatever capacity whatever way
needs and whatever capacity whatever way you approach the police turning them
you approach the police turning them
you approach the police turning them into reality I want you to imagine that
into reality I want you to imagine that
into reality I want you to imagine that you have two superpowers the first
you have two superpowers the first
you have two superpowers the first superpower is the ability to predict who
superpower is the ability to predict who
superpower is the ability to predict who from in this room or in the wider
from in this room or in the wider
from in this room or in the wider community is likely likely to commit a
community is likely likely to commit a
community is likely likely to commit a crime the second superpower is a set
crime the second superpower is a set
crime the second superpower is a set number a finite number of tokens tokens
number a finite number of tokens tokens
number a finite number of tokens tokens that enable you to make interventions in
that enable you to make interventions in
that enable you to make interventions in the lives of people in order to try and
the lives of people in order to try and
the lives of people in order to try and prevent those crimes from happening the
prevent those crimes from happening the
prevent those crimes from happening the tokens don’t always work but you only
tokens don’t always work but you only
tokens don’t always work but you only have a set number with those two
have a set number with those two
have a set number with those two superpowers in mind what decisions would
superpowers in mind what decisions would
superpowers in mind what decisions would you make who would you pick what crimes
you make who would you pick what crimes
you make who would you pick what crimes would you seek to prevent would you
would you seek to prevent would you
would you seek to prevent would you choose burglary robbery sexual assaults
choose burglary robbery sexual assaults
choose burglary robbery sexual assaults or terrorism or organized crime how
or terrorism or organized crime how
or terrorism or organized crime how would you make your decision whose
would you make your decision whose
would you make your decision whose advice would you seek would you see the
advice would you seek would you see the
advice would you seek would you see the rise of police officers or victims of
rise of police officers or victims of
rise of police officers or victims of crime or the public more broadly or
crime or the public more broadly or
crime or the public more broadly or academia or research would you state
academia or research would you state
academia or research would you state publicly that you are making these
publicly that you are making these
publicly that you are making these decisions how would you expect to be
decisions how would you expect to be
decisions how would you expect to be held to account for the choices you made
held to account for the choices you made
held to account for the choices you made by picking one form of criminality to
by picking one form of criminality to
by picking one form of criminality to prevent over another and here’s the one
prevent over another and here’s the one
prevent over another and here’s the one that will really baked your noodle do
that will really baked your noodle do
that will really baked your noodle do you think there are any circumstances in
you think there are any circumstances in
you think there are any circumstances in which it would be appropriate for you
which it would be appropriate for you
which it would be appropriate for you based on your prediction to require
based on your prediction to require
based on your prediction to require somebody
somebody
somebody except the intervention that you can use
except the intervention that you can use
except the intervention that you can use your token for would it be possible to
your token for would it be possible to
your token for would it be possible to compel somebody to it to redo to deal
compel somebody to it to redo to deal
compel somebody to it to redo to deal with their potential criminality even
with their potential criminality even
with their potential criminality even though they hadn’t done it yet while he
though they hadn’t done it yet while he
though they hadn’t done it yet while he was thinking about that i’ll tell you
was thinking about that i’ll tell you
was thinking about that i’ll tell you about somebody i’ve never met but I feel
about somebody i’ve never met but I feel
about somebody i’ve never met but I feel I know quite well the man called Craig a
I know quite well the man called Craig a
I know quite well the man called Craig a few years ago Craig stabbed another man
few years ago Craig stabbed another man
few years ago Craig stabbed another man he’d never met on Broad Street his
he’d never met on Broad Street his
he’d never met on Broad Street his victim nearly died he suffered what we
victim nearly died he suffered what we
victim nearly died he suffered what we call in the public sector somewhat
call in the public sector somewhat
call in the public sector somewhat euphemistically life-changing injuries
euphemistically life-changing injuries
euphemistically life-changing injuries Craig went to jail for what he’d done I
Craig went to jail for what he’d done I
Craig went to jail for what he’d done I want initial response in many ways is to
want initial response in many ways is to
want initial response in many ways is to think good I’m glad Craig went to jail I
think good I’m glad Craig went to jail I
think good I’m glad Craig went to jail I had a miserable time when he was there
had a miserable time when he was there
had a miserable time when he was there for doing what he did but there’s more
for doing what he did but there’s more
for doing what he did but there’s more to his story than you might expect Craig
to his story than you might expect Craig
to his story than you might expect Craig was 15 when he stabbed that man on Broad
was 15 when he stabbed that man on Broad
was 15 when he stabbed that man on Broad Street if you want to know more about
Street if you want to know more about
Street if you want to know more about Craig story I’m surprisingly going to
Craig story I’m surprisingly going to
Craig story I’m surprisingly going to refer you to the West Midlands Police
refer you to the West Midlands Police
refer you to the West Midlands Police strategic assessment for this year
strategic assessment for this year
strategic assessment for this year normally I wouldn’t do that because
normally I wouldn’t do that because
normally I wouldn’t do that because they’re not very interesting documents
they’re not very interesting documents
they’re not very interesting documents as a ruler just a list of crimes and
as a ruler just a list of crimes and
as a ruler just a list of crimes and what we and the force plan to do about
what we and the force plan to do about
what we and the force plan to do about them but this year’s is different
them but this year’s is different
them but this year’s is different because it is literally Craig’s
because it is literally Craig’s
because it is literally Craig’s biography from before he was born right
biography from before he was born right
biography from before he was born right up to almost the present day long after
up to almost the present day long after
up to almost the present day long after the attack took place if you go to their
the attack took place if you go to their
the attack took place if you go to their website and read it well I advise you
website and read it well I advise you
website and read it well I advise you first to kind of brace yourself because
first to kind of brace yourself because
first to kind of brace yourself because it’s a tale of horror it’s a tale of
it’s a tale of horror it’s a tale of
it’s a tale of horror it’s a tale of abuse and violence it’s a tale of
abuse and violence it’s a tale of
abuse and violence it’s a tale of neglect you read Craig story and the
neglect you read Craig story and the
neglect you read Craig story and the things that happen to him and you think
things that happen to him and you think
things that happen to him and you think who would I be if that had been my
who would I be if that had been my
who would I be if that had been my childhood you also look at the story and
childhood you also look at the story and
childhood you also look at the story and you think while is there this succession
you think while is there this succession
you think while is there this succession of ineffectual and largely uncoordinated
of ineffectual and largely uncoordinated
of ineffectual and largely uncoordinated efforts by the public sector to try and
efforts by the public sector to try and
efforts by the public sector to try and put Craig on a different path
Kraig in a sense is West Midlands Police
Kraig in a sense is West Midlands Police his answer to the questions I posed to
his answer to the questions I posed to
his answer to the questions I posed to you about superpowers it’s Craig someone
you about superpowers it’s Craig someone
you about superpowers it’s Craig someone we should try and his life we should try
we should try and his life we should try
we should try and his life we should try and change Craig story tells you two
and change Craig story tells you two
and change Craig story tells you two things about the public sector though
things about the public sector though
things about the public sector though generalizations I know but worth saying
generalizations I know but worth saying
generalizations I know but worth saying first of all we’re not very good at
first of all we’re not very good at
first of all we’re not very good at predicting who is at the greatest risk
predicting who is at the greatest risk
predicting who is at the greatest risk and who poses the greatest risk and
and who poses the greatest risk and
and who poses the greatest risk and there’s two real reasons for that first
there’s two real reasons for that first
there’s two real reasons for that first of all we don’t exploit the data that we
of all we don’t exploit the data that we
of all we don’t exploit the data that we hold we hold lots of data about almost
hold we hold lots of data about almost
hold we hold lots of data about almost everybody and don’t properly analyze it
everybody and don’t properly analyze it
everybody and don’t properly analyze it also we don’t share it if you have the
also we don’t share it if you have the
also we don’t share it if you have the misfortune to read domestic homicide
misfortune to read domestic homicide
misfortune to read domestic homicide reviews or serious case reviews about
reviews or serious case reviews about
reviews or serious case reviews about the the death of children in care the
the the death of children in care the
the the death of children in care the story is almost always the same the
story is almost always the same the
story is almost always the same the mental health nurse didn’t know what the
mental health nurse didn’t know what the
mental health nurse didn’t know what the GP knew the social worker didn’t know
GP knew the social worker didn’t know
GP knew the social worker didn’t know what the police officer knew so we don’t
what the police officer knew so we don’t
what the police officer knew so we don’t use our data very well to to predict
use our data very well to to predict
use our data very well to to predict we’re also very poor at prevention
we’re also very poor at prevention
we’re also very poor at prevention generally speaking and part of the
generally speaking and part of the
generally speaking and part of the reason for that is that we allocate so
reason for that is that we allocate so
reason for that is that we allocate so much resource to reaction to what
much resource to reaction to what
much resource to reaction to what happens afterwards if you look at the
happens afterwards if you look at the
happens afterwards if you look at the public sector the big-spending parts are
public sector the big-spending parts are
public sector the big-spending parts are hospitals and prisons and courts and
hospitals and prisons and courts and
hospitals and prisons and courts and investigations not the preventative
investigations not the preventative
investigations not the preventative activity the bits where they spend the
activity the bits where they spend the
activity the bits where they spend the money or the bits where we’re responding
money or the bits where we’re responding
money or the bits where we’re responding to failure well that might be about to
to failure well that might be about to
to failure well that might be about to change some of you have already heard of
change some of you have already heard of
change some of you have already heard of something called predictive policing
something called predictive policing
something called predictive policing it’s pretty straightforward actually in
it’s pretty straightforward actually in
it’s pretty straightforward actually in its first generation iteration it is
its first generation iteration it is
its first generation iteration it is about using crime data to predict the
about using crime data to predict the
about using crime data to predict the places where crime will happen this is
places where crime will happen this is
places where crime will happen this is already taking place now if you go and
already taking place now if you go and
already taking place now if you go and talk to colleagues at british transport
talk to colleagues at british transport
talk to colleagues at british transport police they will tell you about how
police they will tell you about how
police they will tell you about how their patrol strategies use predictive
their patrol strategies use predictive
their patrol strategies use predictive policing to make sure that they’re
policing to make sure that they’re
policing to make sure that they’re police officers are in the right place
police officers are in the right place
police officers are in the right place at the right time to take away the
at the right time to take away the
at the right time to take away the opportunity for crimes to happen so you
opportunity for crimes to happen so you
opportunity for crimes to happen so you will see british transport police
will see british transport police
will see british transport police officers in railway stations very
officers in railway stations very
officers in railway stations very steadfastly sitting and standing in
steadfastly sitting and standing in
steadfastly sitting and standing in squares not much bigger than this stage
squares not much bigger than this stage
squares not much bigger than this stage for set periods of time at certain times
for set periods of time at certain times
for set periods of time at certain times a day and what that does is it takes
a day and what that does is it takes
a day and what that does is it takes away the opportunity because most crime
away the opportunity because most crime
away the opportunity because most crime is opportunistic it takes away the
is opportunistic it takes away the
is opportunistic it takes away the opportunity
opportunity
opportunity for the crime of robbery or shoplifting
for the crime of robbery or shoplifting
for the crime of robbery or shoplifting or violent crime perhaps even to take
or violent crime perhaps even to take
or violent crime perhaps even to take place that’s first-generation predictive
place that’s first-generation predictive
place that’s first-generation predictive policing it’s here already it is already
policing it’s here already it is already
policing it’s here already it is already however generating significant
however generating significant
however generating significant controversy if you go to the American
controversy if you go to the American
controversy if you go to the American Civil Liberties Union website there’s a
Civil Liberties Union website there’s a
Civil Liberties Union website there’s a statement there by them and 15 other
statement there by them and 15 other
statement there by them and 15 other human rights bodies saying how dangerous
human rights bodies saying how dangerous
human rights bodies saying how dangerous this technology is they point out that
this technology is they point out that
this technology is they point out that it could be used for even more draconian
it could be used for even more draconian
it could be used for even more draconian enforcement rather than actual
enforcement rather than actual
enforcement rather than actual prevention it could be used as a way to
prevention it could be used as a way to
prevention it could be used as a way to catch more people incarcerate more
catch more people incarcerate more
catch more people incarcerate more people rather than prevent and even more
people rather than prevent and even more
people rather than prevent and even more tellingly they make the point which is
tellingly they make the point which is
tellingly they make the point which is one we’ve got to think about throughout
one we’ve got to think about throughout
one we’ve got to think about throughout this whole debate that the data sets on
this whole debate that the data sets on
this whole debate that the data sets on which these predictions are being made
which these predictions are being made
which these predictions are being made are built on the institutional biases of
are built on the institutional biases of
are built on the institutional biases of the organizations that collected the
the organizations that collected the
the organizations that collected the data so you put data in that’s biased
data so you put data in that’s biased
data so you put data in that’s biased against particular ethnicities or
against particular ethnicities or
against particular ethnicities or particular social groups and you come
particular social groups and you come
particular social groups and you come out with predictions that are biased
out with predictions that are biased
out with predictions that are biased against those groups too then these
against those groups too then these
against those groups too then these concerns are very real but the
concerns are very real but the
concerns are very real but the technology is racing forward we’re
technology is racing forward we’re
technology is racing forward we’re moving away from prediction based solely
moving away from prediction based solely
moving away from prediction based solely on place to predictions based on
on place to predictions based on
on place to predictions based on individual behavior in the coming years
individual behavior in the coming years
individual behavior in the coming years we will see the public sector and
we will see the public sector and
we will see the public sector and policing in particular start to create
policing in particular start to create
policing in particular start to create enormous fused multi-channel data lakes
enormous fused multi-channel data lakes
enormous fused multi-channel data lakes with data held to common standards that
with data held to common standards that
with data held to common standards that allow the application of increasingly
allow the application of increasingly
allow the application of increasingly sophisticated algorithms that enable
sophisticated algorithms that enable
sophisticated algorithms that enable genuine predictions to be made with a
genuine predictions to be made with a
genuine predictions to be made with a fair degree of accuracy about the
fair degree of accuracy about the
fair degree of accuracy about the behavior of individuals including their
behavior of individuals including their
behavior of individuals including their propensity towards criminality and their
propensity towards criminality and their
propensity towards criminality and their propensity towards victimhood we’re
propensity towards victimhood we’re
propensity towards victimhood we’re going to see things like and they’re
going to see things like and they’re
going to see things like and they’re starting to see the prototypes of these
starting to see the prototypes of these
starting to see the prototypes of these now software based on real people that
now software based on real people that
now software based on real people that predicts when they will predict the
predicts when they will predict the
predicts when they will predict the commit their next crime where they will
commit their next crime where they will
commit their next crime where they will be when they do so and who they’ll be
be when they do so and who they’ll be
be when they do so and who they’ll be associating with real-life simulations
associating with real-life simulations
associating with real-life simulations of real people the same technology will
of real people the same technology will
of real people the same technology will also be used for developing search
also be used for developing search
also be used for developing search patterns for repeat missing children by
patterns for repeat missing children by
patterns for repeat missing children by knowing their associations and their
knowing their associations and their
knowing their associations and their patterns of behavior will be able to
patterns of behavior will be able to
patterns of behavior will be able to generate
generate
generate tighter search patterns to make it
tighter search patterns to make it
tighter search patterns to make it easier to find them your local police
easier to find them your local police
easier to find them your local police officers will be equipped with targeted
officers will be equipped with targeted
officers will be equipped with targeted intervention and prevention tools the
intervention and prevention tools the
intervention and prevention tools the essentially databases of everybody on
essentially databases of everybody on
essentially databases of everybody on their patch who’s likely to be a victim
their patch who’s likely to be a victim
their patch who’s likely to be a victim and what crime will there be a victim of
and what crime will there be a victim of
and what crime will there be a victim of who’s likely to be a criminal or commit
who’s likely to be a criminal or commit
who’s likely to be a criminal or commit a criminal act and what will be the
a criminal act and what will be the
a criminal act and what will be the crime that they predict that they are
crime that they predict that they are
crime that they predict that they are predicted to it to commit our Public
predicted to it to commit our Public
predicted to it to commit our Public Health colleagues are going to use the
Health colleagues are going to use the
Health colleagues are going to use the same technology even now we’re starting
same technology even now we’re starting
same technology even now we’re starting to see databases that enable community
to see databases that enable community
to see databases that enable community health practitioners to walk down the
health practitioners to walk down the
health practitioners to walk down the street and know who in which houses is
street and know who in which houses is
street and know who in which houses is likely to die in the next two years on a
likely to die in the next two years on a
likely to die in the next two years on a more strategic level we will see
more strategic level we will see
more strategic level we will see analysis of adverse childhood
analysis of adverse childhood
analysis of adverse childhood experiences as an indicator as a measure
experiences as an indicator as a measure
experiences as an indicator as a measure of lightly propensity to either
of lightly propensity to either
of lightly propensity to either victimhood or criminality and these data
victimhood or criminality and these data
victimhood or criminality and these data sets and these predictions will become
sets and these predictions will become
sets and these predictions will become the norm in different parts of the
the norm in different parts of the
the norm in different parts of the public sector in policing the
public sector in policing the
public sector in policing the opportunity presented is almost leaving
opportunity presented is almost leaving
opportunity presented is almost leaving officers like giddy with excitement
officers like giddy with excitement
officers like giddy with excitement because it offers the real potential to
because it offers the real potential to
because it offers the real potential to start to address those concerns in the
start to address those concerns in the
start to address those concerns in the public sector I talked about before of
public sector I talked about before of
public sector I talked about before of shifting resources away from reaction
shifting resources away from reaction
shifting resources away from reaction and into prevention it is transformative
and into prevention it is transformative
and into prevention it is transformative I know it’s an overworked word so I’ve
I know it’s an overworked word so I’ve
I know it’s an overworked word so I’ve actually come up with a new word for it
actually come up with a new word for it
actually come up with a new word for it this word prehabilitation because it’s
this word prehabilitation because it’s
this word prehabilitation because it’s about prediction prevention and
about prediction prevention and
about prediction prevention and habilitation not after the event earlier
habilitation not after the event earlier
habilitation not after the event earlier targeted intervention it’s no
targeted intervention it’s no
targeted intervention it’s no coincidence that the current Chief
coincidence that the current Chief
coincidence that the current Chief Constable of west midlands police in his
Constable of west midlands police in his
Constable of west midlands police in his commencement address when he took up the
commencement address when he took up the
commencement address when he took up the role he spoke about the duty of the
role he spoke about the duty of the
role he spoke about the duty of the police to offer the hand of friendship
police to offer the hand of friendship
police to offer the hand of friendship to those in need he wasn’t just talking
to those in need he wasn’t just talking
to those in need he wasn’t just talking about victims of crime what he was
about victims of crime what he was
about victims of crime what he was talking about is those who are at risk
talking about is those who are at risk
talking about is those who are at risk who are vulnerable to becoming involved
who are vulnerable to becoming involved
who are vulnerable to becoming involved in criminality it’s an extraordinary
in criminality it’s an extraordinary
in criminality it’s an extraordinary opportunity but there are so many
opportunity but there are so many
opportunity but there are so many questions to be answered and like those
questions to be answered and like those
questions to be answered and like those that I posed at the start about what
that I posed at the start about what
that I posed at the start about what would you do with your superpowers how
would you do with your superpowers how
would you do with your superpowers how would you be held to account so that is
would you be held to account so that is
would you be held to account so that is racing forward right now it’s happening
racing forward right now it’s happening
racing forward right now it’s happening right now the issue then is how do we
right now the issue then is how do we
right now the issue then is how do we govern it how do we run this how do we
govern it how do we run this how do we
govern it how do we run this how do we manage this and it’s being developed in
manage this and it’s being developed in
manage this and it’s being developed in the context of something called
the context of something called
the context of something called operational independence if a crime is
operational independence if a crime is
operational independence if a crime is committed the police have all
committed the police have all
committed the police have all me to go away and figure out who to
me to go away and figure out who to
me to go away and figure out who to investigate on how to investigate we use
investigate on how to investigate we use
investigate on how to investigate we use the same methodology in medicine as well
the same methodology in medicine as well
the same methodology in medicine as well whereby if you are sick if you fallen
whereby if you are sick if you fallen
whereby if you are sick if you fallen ill you work with your GP or your
ill you work with your GP or your
ill you work with your GP or your medical practitioner to figure out what
medical practitioner to figure out what
medical practitioner to figure out what treatment you receive and no one else
treatment you receive and no one else
treatment you receive and no one else has a right to tell you how to do that
has a right to tell you how to do that
has a right to tell you how to do that no one else has the right to tell the
no one else has the right to tell the
no one else has the right to tell the police how to investigate a crime that
police how to investigate a crime that
police how to investigate a crime that reactive model is about dealing with
reactive model is about dealing with
reactive model is about dealing with things that have been happened in the
things that have been happened in the
things that have been happened in the past but we’re talking about predicting
past but we’re talking about predicting
past but we’re talking about predicting and preventing things that are happening
and preventing things that are happening
and preventing things that are happening in the future and my argument today is
in the future and my argument today is
in the future and my argument today is if we’re talking about the future then
if we’re talking about the future then
if we’re talking about the future then how we govern the use of that technology
how we govern the use of that technology
how we govern the use of that technology must require more of us to be involved
must require more of us to be involved
must require more of us to be involved it must require democratic legitimacy
it must require democratic legitimacy
it must require democratic legitimacy must require a degree of public
must require a degree of public
must require a degree of public accountability so there are a number of
accountability so there are a number of
accountability so there are a number of models we can use to how we do that but
models we can use to how we do that but
models we can use to how we do that but I see a future where politicians perhaps
I see a future where politicians perhaps
I see a future where politicians perhaps standing for elected office will have to
standing for elected office will have to
standing for elected office will have to say in their manifestos which data sets
say in their manifestos which data sets
say in their manifestos which data sets do I trust what risks am I trying to
do I trust what risks am I trying to
do I trust what risks am I trying to manage what is it that I’m trying to
manage what is it that I’m trying to
manage what is it that I’m trying to prevent what are the circumstances in
prevent what are the circumstances in
prevent what are the circumstances in which i think compulsion to deal with a
which i think compulsion to deal with a
which i think compulsion to deal with a prediction is appropriate some of the
prediction is appropriate some of the
prediction is appropriate some of the things we can learn from other ways of
things we can learn from other ways of
things we can learn from other ways of doing this the police use intrusive
doing this the police use intrusive
doing this the police use intrusive surveillance all the time against
surveillance all the time against
surveillance all the time against against potential criminality but there
against potential criminality but there
against potential criminality but there are there is a graded schedule of
are there is a graded schedule of
are there is a graded schedule of authorizations that are required before
authorizations that are required before
authorizations that are required before those that surveillance can take place
those that surveillance can take place
those that surveillance can take place going all the way up to the Home
going all the way up to the Home
going all the way up to the Home Secretary interestingly but what there
Secretary interestingly but what there
Secretary interestingly but what there also is is an external to external
also is is an external to external
also is is an external to external inspectorate’s whose job it is to make
inspectorate’s whose job it is to make
inspectorate’s whose job it is to make sure got looking in from outside that
sure got looking in from outside that
sure got looking in from outside that the way that those intrusive
the way that those intrusive
the way that those intrusive surveillance technologies are used is
surveillance technologies are used is
surveillance technologies are used is proportionate and lawful I think we need
proportionate and lawful I think we need
proportionate and lawful I think we need we’re going to need an inspector it for
we’re going to need an inspector it for
we’re going to need an inspector it for prehabilitation some kind of external
prehabilitation some kind of external
prehabilitation some kind of external body that looks in on how these
body that looks in on how these
body that looks in on how these technologies are being used if we’re
technologies are being used if we’re
technologies are being used if we’re talking about compliance requiring
talking about compliance requiring
talking about compliance requiring compliance with an intervention based on
compliance with an intervention based on
compliance with an intervention based on a prediction maybe we’ll need some kind
a prediction maybe we’ll need some kind
a prediction maybe we’ll need some kind of quasi judicial process that allows
of quasi judicial process that allows
of quasi judicial process that allows but arguments for and against the
but arguments for and against the
but arguments for and against the intervention to be considered in a
intervention to be considered in a
intervention to be considered in a balanced and structured way it’ll give a
balanced and structured way it’ll give a
balanced and structured way it’ll give a whole new meaning to the word pretrial
whole new meaning to the word pretrial
whole new meaning to the word pretrial about whether or not an intervention is
about whether or not an intervention is
about whether or not an intervention is justified and also there is a room for
justified and also there is a room for
justified and also there is a room for something close to a Medical Ethics
something close to a Medical Ethics
something close to a Medical Ethics Committee in medical research if a trial
Committee in medical research if a trial
Committee in medical research if a trial is to go ahead or oh the introduction of
is to go ahead or oh the introduction of
is to go ahead or oh the introduction of a new a new drug or a new protocol
a new a new drug or a new protocol
a new a new drug or a new protocol medical ethics committees made up of lay
medical ethics committees made up of lay
medical ethics committees made up of lay members of the public researchers
members of the public researchers
members of the public researchers practitioners come together to weigh the
practitioners come together to weigh the
practitioners come together to weigh the pros and cons and proportionality of the
pros and cons and proportionality of the
pros and cons and proportionality of the intervention to see if it’s safe to see
intervention to see if it’s safe to see
intervention to see if it’s safe to see if it’s the right thing to do all three
if it’s the right thing to do all three
if it’s the right thing to do all three of those different ways of working have
of those different ways of working have
of those different ways of working have something to offer in the
something to offer in the
something to offer in the prehabilitation space if we call it that
prehabilitation space if we call it that
prehabilitation space if we call it that but they don’t go far enough because
but they don’t go far enough because
but they don’t go far enough because they are in effect unaccountable and
they are in effect unaccountable and
they are in effect unaccountable and generally speaking they take place away
generally speaking they take place away
generally speaking they take place away secluded from the public gaze what we
secluded from the public gaze what we
secluded from the public gaze what we need is some is this if this technology
need is some is this if this technology
need is some is this if this technology is going to be accepted by everybody in
is going to be accepted by everybody in
is going to be accepted by everybody in this room and beyond we need much more
this room and beyond we need much more
this room and beyond we need much more public legitimacy before it can blink
public legitimacy before it can blink
public legitimacy before it can blink them implemented now I’m gonna have to
them implemented now I’m gonna have to
them implemented now I’m gonna have to declare an interest because I think
declare an interest because I think
declare an interest because I think police and crime commissioners are
police and crime commissioners are
police and crime commissioners are important in this debate police and
important in this debate police and
important in this debate police and crime commissioners are the local
crime commissioners are the local
crime commissioners are the local governing body for policing I work for a
governing body for policing I work for a
governing body for policing I work for a police and crime Commissioner I run a PC
police and crime Commissioner I run a PC
police and crime Commissioner I run a PC sees office but they are I hope one of
sees office but they are I hope one of
sees office but they are I hope one of the routes one of the mechanisms by
the routes one of the mechanisms by
the routes one of the mechanisms by which this technology can be brought in
which this technology can be brought in
which this technology can be brought in in a way that carries the public with us
in a way that carries the public with us
in a way that carries the public with us they have a number of key advantages
they have a number of key advantages
they have a number of key advantages first of all they’re really new police
first of all they’re really new police
first of all they’re really new police and crime commissioners are only four
and crime commissioners are only four
and crime commissioners are only four years old this year the elections first
years old this year the elections first
years old this year the elections first elections were in 2012 newness is good
elections were in 2012 newness is good
elections were in 2012 newness is good because newness means you can innovate
because newness means you can innovate
because newness means you can innovate it means you’re not bound by a rule book
it means you’re not bound by a rule book
it means you’re not bound by a rule book you’re writing the rule but we’re making
you’re writing the rule but we’re making
you’re writing the rule but we’re making it up as we go along about what it is to
it up as we go along about what it is to
it up as we go along about what it is to be a police and crime Commissioner the
be a police and crime Commissioner the
be a police and crime Commissioner the second thing they do is they control the
second thing they do is they control the
second thing they do is they control the money so they set the budgets for
money so they set the budgets for
money so they set the budgets for policing and they set the local
policing and they set the local
policing and they set the local preceptor parts of council tax that goes
preceptor parts of council tax that goes
preceptor parts of council tax that goes to policing controlling the money’s
to policing controlling the money’s
to policing controlling the money’s really important because problem money
really important because problem money
really important because problem money means you can start to shift resources
means you can start to shift resources
means you can start to shift resources away from reaction and towards
away from reaction and towards
away from reaction and towards preventive services moving move
preventive services moving move
preventive services moving move resources away from response teams and
resources away from response teams and
resources away from response teams and investigation teams and towards better
investigation teams and towards better
investigation teams and towards better support for people with mental health
support for people with mental health
support for people with mental health needs better support for new parents who
needs better support for new parents who
needs better support for new parents who are struggling better support for people
are struggling better support for people
are struggling better support for people with substance abuse mentoring schemes
with substance abuse mentoring schemes
with substance abuse mentoring schemes things like that PCCs can help that
things like that PCCs can help that
things like that PCCs can help that shift
shift
shift takes place and thirdly the obvious
takes place and thirdly the obvious
takes place and thirdly the obvious point but important one is they’re
point but important one is they’re
point but important one is they’re elected they voted in by the public and
elected they voted in by the public and
elected they voted in by the public and that means two things first of all
that means two things first of all
that means two things first of all they’ve got a degree of legitimacy to
they’ve got a degree of legitimacy to
they’ve got a degree of legitimacy to make decisions they have the right to
make decisions they have the right to
make decisions they have the right to hold the roll but even more importantly
hold the roll but even more importantly
hold the roll but even more importantly being elected makes you responsive to
being elected makes you responsive to
being elected makes you responsive to the public it means you have to listen
the public it means you have to listen
the public it means you have to listen to the public it means you see the
to the public it means you see the
to the public it means you see the public as your constituency and the
public as your constituency and the
public as your constituency and the public are critical to this debate
public are critical to this debate
public are critical to this debate prehabilitation preventatives policing
prehabilitation preventatives policing
prehabilitation preventatives policing whatever you want to call it it’s the
whatever you want to call it it’s the
whatever you want to call it it’s the best opportunity to get real value from
best opportunity to get real value from
best opportunity to get real value from the public sector and bring real change
the public sector and bring real change
the public sector and bring real change in the public sector that I’ve seen in
in the public sector that I’ve seen in
in the public sector that I’ve seen in 15 years as a public servant I’ve seen
15 years as a public servant I’ve seen
15 years as a public servant I’ve seen loads of different things tried to make
loads of different things tried to make
loads of different things tried to make the public sector more effective and
the public sector more effective and
the public sector more effective and this is the one that I’m hanging more
this is the one that I’m hanging more
this is the one that I’m hanging more hope than anything I’ve seen in the past
hope than anything I’ve seen in the past
hope than anything I’ve seen in the past it dot offers a huge and genuine
it dot offers a huge and genuine
it dot offers a huge and genuine opportunity to transform people’s lives
opportunity to transform people’s lives
opportunity to transform people’s lives to actually start to get real value out
to actually start to get real value out
to actually start to get real value out of that public spend by being able to
of that public spend by being able to
of that public spend by being able to target it so much more effectively
target it so much more effectively
target it so much more effectively against the people who need it the most
against the people who need it the most
against the people who need it the most but the people who need it the most
but the people who need it the most
but the people who need it the most that’s a value Laden judgment you have
that’s a value Laden judgment you have
that’s a value Laden judgment you have to decide what you value the most in
to decide what you value the most in
to decide what you value the most in order to decide who needs something the
order to decide who needs something the
order to decide who needs something the most and so if those decisions about
most and so if those decisions about
most and so if those decisions about where those interventions go ahead take
where those interventions go ahead take
where those interventions go ahead take place within the context of the old
place within the context of the old
place within the context of the old operational independence paradigm I fear
operational independence paradigm I fear
operational independence paradigm I fear that we’re on a route towards occluded
that we’re on a route towards occluded
that we’re on a route towards occluded secluded hidden decision-making where
secluded hidden decision-making where
secluded hidden decision-making where they won’t be legitimacy where there
they won’t be legitimacy where there
they won’t be legitimacy where there won’t be public accountability and the
won’t be public accountability and the
won’t be public accountability and the risk is that down that road lies scandal
risk is that down that road lies scandal
risk is that down that road lies scandal and failure and this huge opportunity
and failure and this huge opportunity
and failure and this huge opportunity that we’ve got will be lost there has to
that we’ve got will be lost there has to
that we’ve got will be lost there has to be democratically elected leadership
be democratically elected leadership
be democratically elected leadership public publicly accountable transparent
public publicly accountable transparent
public publicly accountable transparent decision-making so that we go into this
decision-making so that we go into this
decision-making so that we go into this new world of using data to inform public
new world of using data to inform public
new world of using data to inform public sector decisions in an open accountable
sector decisions in an open accountable
sector decisions in an open accountable and genuinely transformative a
and genuinely transformative a
and genuinely transformative a life-saving way thank you very much
life-saving way thank you very much
life-saving way thank you very much indeed
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