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Time to Take Empathy Education in Secondary Schools Seriously | Pat Dolan | TEDxGalway


to star but I want you to do an honesty

to star but I want you to do an honesty quiz with me I want everybody in the

quiz with me I want everybody in the

quiz with me I want everybody in the room think back to when you’re a

room think back to when you’re a

room think back to when you’re a teenager for some that might be take it

teenager for some that might be take it

teenager for some that might be take it a lot longer but others I hope not think

a lot longer but others I hope not think

a lot longer but others I hope not think back to when you’re a teenager and if

back to when you’re a teenager and if

back to when you’re a teenager and if you did at least one thing that you

you did at least one thing that you

you did at least one thing that you didn’t tell your mother or your father

didn’t tell your mother or your father

didn’t tell your mother or your father put your hand up

put your hand up

put your hand up come on okay put your hands down if you

come on okay put your hands down if you

come on okay put your hands down if you didn’t put your hand up it’s too late

didn’t put your hand up it’s too late

didn’t put your hand up it’s too late the thing is that a lot of the youth and

the thing is that a lot of the youth and

the thing is that a lot of the youth and young people get bad press we tend to

young people get bad press we tend to

young people get bad press we tend to vilify young people not all the time but

vilify young people not all the time but

vilify young people not all the time but you know very quickly in the media young

you know very quickly in the media young

you know very quickly in the media young people are seen as the cause of problems

people are seen as the cause of problems

people are seen as the cause of problems rather than the solution what I’m going

rather than the solution what I’m going

rather than the solution what I’m going to do with you over the next couple of

to do with you over the next couple of

to do with you over the next couple of minutes I hope is talk to you about why

minutes I hope is talk to you about why

minutes I hope is talk to you about why youth are important but why empathy

youth are important but why empathy

youth are important but why empathy education in terms of in schools with

education in terms of in schools with

education in terms of in schools with youth in a very I think very innovative

youth in a very I think very innovative

youth in a very I think very innovative way holds really good promise and

way holds really good promise and

way holds really good promise and there’s something we should take

there’s something we should take

there’s something we should take seriously by the way 80% of 82% to be

seriously by the way 80% of 82% to be

seriously by the way 80% of 82% to be exact of young people grow up with

exact of young people grow up with

exact of young people grow up with absolutely no problem in their life and

absolutely no problem in their life and

absolutely no problem in their life and of the roughly 20% that do less than 20%

of the roughly 20% that do less than 20%

of the roughly 20% that do less than 20% I have a problem 80% of those just grow

I have a problem 80% of those just grow

I have a problem 80% of those just grow out of the problem so the rule to be a

out of the problem so the rule to be a

out of the problem so the rule to be a good parent is do nothing

good parent is do nothing

good parent is do nothing and actually it’s true but it’s really

and actually it’s true but it’s really

and actually it’s true but it’s really interesting I’m doing a lot of more

interesting I’m doing a lot of more

interesting I’m doing a lot of more serious work in relation to my work with

serious work in relation to my work with

serious work in relation to my work with UNESCO in relation to youth extremism

UNESCO in relation to youth extremism

UNESCO in relation to youth extremism and violence and it’s really and I did

and violence and it’s really and I did

and violence and it’s really and I did use the term youth radicalization

use the term youth radicalization

use the term youth radicalization because I think being radical as a youth

because I think being radical as a youth

because I think being radical as a youth is a good thing I’m a radical adult

is a good thing I’m a radical adult

is a good thing I’m a radical adult there’s nothing wrong with being a

there’s nothing wrong with being a

there’s nothing wrong with being a radical youth but even in terms of a

radical youth but even in terms of a

radical youth but even in terms of a really serious issue of violence

really serious issue of violence

really serious issue of violence prevention and youth extremism it really

prevention and youth extremism it really

prevention and youth extremism it really is interesting that in the work that

is interesting that in the work that

is interesting that in the work that I’ve been doing with UNESCO and with the

I’ve been doing with UNESCO and with the

I’ve been doing with UNESCO and with the UN what has become clear is that it’s

UN what has become clear is that it’s

UN what has become clear is that it’s not just the internet that’s the issue

not just the internet that’s the issue

not just the internet that’s the issue the issue actually is around empathy and

the issue actually is around empathy and

the issue actually is around empathy and you heard a little bit earlier on

you heard a little bit earlier on

you heard a little bit earlier on empathy so let’s talk about what is

empathy so let’s talk about what is

empathy so let’s talk about what is empty and be really clear about what I’m

empty and be really clear about what I’m

empty and be really clear about what I’m saying when I talk about empty so empty

saying when I talk about empty so empty

saying when I talk about empty so empty first of all is not sympathy sympathy is

first of all is not sympathy sympathy is

first of all is not sympathy sympathy is a completely different thing sympathy is

a completely different thing sympathy is

a completely different thing sympathy is when you feel pity or when you feel

when you feel pity or when you feel

when you feel pity or when you feel sorrow so and then when you look at what

sorrow so and then when you look at what

sorrow so and then when you look at what empathy is empathy can either be static

empathy is empathy can either be static

empathy is empathy can either be static or active okay so when you think about

or active okay so when you think about

or active okay so when you think about empathy it’s the capacity to understand

empathy it’s the capacity to understand

empathy it’s the capacity to understand where somebody is coming from to

where somebody is coming from to

where somebody is coming from to identify with them to really feel for

identify with them to really feel for

identify with them to really feel for them but not in a way that is pitiful

them but not in a way that is pitiful

them but not in a way that is pitiful that’s static empty active empathy is

that’s static empty active empathy is

that’s static empty active empathy is where you actually go and do something

where you actually go and do something

where you actually go and do something about it and it’s really interesting

about it and it’s really interesting

about it and it’s really interesting getting back to my pro youth statement

getting back to my pro youth statement

getting back to my pro youth statement that if you look at things like 9/11

that if you look at things like 9/11

that if you look at things like 9/11 tsunami Hurricane Katrina research has

tsunami Hurricane Katrina research has

tsunami Hurricane Katrina research has shown that the first people in to help

shown that the first people in to help

shown that the first people in to help in human disaster has been youth now

in human disaster has been youth now

in human disaster has been youth now that’s not to say all youth behavior is

that’s not to say all youth behavior is

that’s not to say all youth behavior is good as we do know horrific Lee there

good as we do know horrific Lee there

good as we do know horrific Lee there have been occasions where this has gone

have been occasions where this has gone

have been occasions where this has gone the other way but in order to get to

the other way but in order to get to

the other way but in order to get to that we get to that a bit later

that we get to that a bit later

that we get to that a bit later as to why I’m thinking about this like

as to why I’m thinking about this like

as to why I’m thinking about this like solution what I want to do to start with

solution what I want to do to start with

solution what I want to do to start with is to think back to two examples one is

is to think back to two examples one is

is to think back to two examples one is very personal for me which it you know

very personal for me which it you know

very personal for me which it you know I’m very happy to share with you and one

I’m very happy to share with you and one

I’m very happy to share with you and one then is more historical let’s start with

then is more historical let’s start with

then is more historical let’s start with the historical one so I want you to

the historical one so I want you to

the historical one so I want you to think back over 100 years ago to World

think back over 100 years ago to World

think back over 100 years ago to World War one to Christmas Touma’s een in near

War one to Christmas Touma’s een in near

War one to Christmas Touma’s een in near in Belgium near eeep

in Belgium near eeep

in Belgium near eeep and think of Christmas Eve on a snowy

and think of Christmas Eve on a snowy

and think of Christmas Eve on a snowy evening you had British and Irish and

evening you had British and Irish and

evening you had British and Irish and French soldiers for pletely British and

French soldiers for pletely British and

French soldiers for pletely British and Irish soldiers at that stage one side of

Irish soldiers at that stage one side of

Irish soldiers at that stage one side of no-man’s land and you German soldiers on

no-man’s land and you German soldiers on

no-man’s land and you German soldiers on the other side a no-man’s land

the other side a no-man’s land

the other side a no-man’s land suddenly soldiers started to sing the

suddenly soldiers started to sing the

suddenly soldiers started to sing the German soldiers started to sing still

German soldiers started to sing still

German soldiers started to sing still not silent night they were applauded by

not silent night they were applauded by

not silent night they were applauded by the British soldiers and the British

the British soldiers and the British

the British soldiers and the British soldier signed Good King Wenceslas I’m

soldier signed Good King Wenceslas I’m

soldier signed Good King Wenceslas I’m getting into the mood for Christmas then

getting into the mood for Christmas then

getting into the mood for Christmas then two soldiers one from each side took a

two soldiers one from each side took a

two soldiers one from each side took a very dangerous step and stood up

very dangerous step and stood up

very dangerous step and stood up could’ve got shot went across shook

could’ve got shot went across shook

could’ve got shot went across shook hands and peace broke out priest peace

hands and peace broke out priest peace

hands and peace broke out priest peace broke out for quite a number of days the

broke out for quite a number of days the

broke out for quite a number of days the soldier is mixed mingled shared schnapps

soldier is mixed mingled shared schnapps

soldier is mixed mingled shared schnapps photographs of their children

photographs of their children

photographs of their children chocolate celebrated Christmas together

chocolate celebrated Christmas together

chocolate celebrated Christmas together and they even played a famous game of

and they even played a famous game of

and they even played a famous game of football which by the way Germany won

football which by the way Germany won

football which by the way Germany won one nil I believe from da Milan not that

one nil I believe from da Milan not that

one nil I believe from da Milan not that that matters but the thing is that they

that matters but the thing is that they

that matters but the thing is that they they identified with each other they had

they identified with each other they had

they identified with each other they had human contact with each other and they

human contact with each other and they

human contact with each other and they had warmth for each other

had warmth for each other

had warmth for each other and then they had empathy for each other

and then they had empathy for each other

and then they had empathy for each other and they were expected to go back

and they were expected to go back

and they were expected to go back fighting and many of them were unable or

fighting and many of them were unable or

fighting and many of them were unable or unwilling a number were court-martialed

unwilling a number were court-martialed

unwilling a number were court-martialed for fraternizing with the enemy and

for fraternizing with the enemy and

for fraternizing with the enemy and others were just sent back from the

others were just sent back from the

others were just sent back from the front and other soldiers put in but it

front and other soldiers put in but it

front and other soldiers put in but it is interesting that in 2000 1915 in the

is interesting that in 2000 1915 in the

is interesting that in 2000 1915 in the Vosges mountains another peace broke out

Vosges mountains another peace broke out

Vosges mountains another peace broke out between soldiers in a similar way an

between soldiers in a similar way an

between soldiers in a similar way an amazing part of the story and this is

amazing part of the story and this is

amazing part of the story and this is true that there was a cat now the cat

true that there was a cat now the cat

true that there was a cat now the cat was called felix by the British soldiers

was called felix by the British soldiers

was called felix by the British soldiers and nestor by the German soldiers which

and nestor by the German soldiers which

and nestor by the German soldiers which is very confusing very confusing for the

is very confusing very confusing for the

is very confusing very confusing for the cat the cat carried messages across

cat the cat carried messages across

cat the cat carried messages across no-man’s land scribbled into a little

no-man’s land scribbled into a little

no-man’s land scribbled into a little thing on his neck or her neck on

thing on his neck or her neck on

thing on his neck or her neck on well his neck and believe it or not the

well his neck and believe it or not the

well his neck and believe it or not the generals decided that the Koch will be

generals decided that the Koch will be

generals decided that the Koch will be court-martialed and the cat was shot

court-martialed and the cat was shot

court-martialed and the cat was shot know empty there

know empty there

know empty there so I think we should start a campaign

so I think we should start a campaign

so I think we should start a campaign for Felix stroke Nestor’s brought back

for Felix stroke Nestor’s brought back

for Felix stroke Nestor’s brought back into not back to life but brought back

into not back to life but brought back

into not back to life but brought back and to be condoned for his good behavior

but it is interesting that in a war

but it is interesting that in a war situation that is how powerful empathy

situation that is how powerful empathy

situation that is how powerful empathy can be and the example for myself is not

can be and the example for myself is not

can be and the example for myself is not it’s not a one that you know I talk

it’s not a one that you know I talk

it’s not a one that you know I talk about very much and but I’m the youngest

about very much and but I’m the youngest

about very much and but I’m the youngest of a large family my I’m from Dublin and

of a large family my I’m from Dublin and

of a large family my I’m from Dublin and I had a very resourceful and very

I had a very resourceful and very

I had a very resourceful and very resilient mother partly because my

resilient mother partly because my

resilient mother partly because my father died in an accident when I was

father died in an accident when I was

father died in an accident when I was very small over seven months old but I

very small over seven months old but I

very small over seven months old but I went to a Christian brother school in

went to a Christian brother school in

went to a Christian brother school in Dublin where corporal punishment was

Dublin where corporal punishment was

Dublin where corporal punishment was rife and has reminded lately around this

rife and has reminded lately around this

rife and has reminded lately around this whole issue when I read Roddy Doyle’s

whole issue when I read Roddy Doyle’s

whole issue when I read Roddy Doyle’s new book smile and heard him been

new book smile and heard him been

new book smile and heard him been interviewed about it and for there are

interviewed about it and for there are

interviewed about it and for there are many people for whom the physical abuse

many people for whom the physical abuse

many people for whom the physical abuse of schools was not an issue you know

of schools was not an issue you know

of schools was not an issue you know they you know some famous broadcasters

they you know some famous broadcasters

they you know some famous broadcasters I’m not going to name said it did me no

I’m not going to name said it did me no

I’m not going to name said it did me no harm well good for you but it did a lot

harm well good for you but it did a lot

harm well good for you but it did a lot of people harm and the interesting thing

of people harm and the interesting thing

of people harm and the interesting thing about that story is thinking about

about that story is thinking about

about that story is thinking about passive and active empathy for me was I

passive and active empathy for me was I

passive and active empathy for me was I stood up for another kid in the class

stood up for another kid in the class

stood up for another kid in the class and got hammered physically assaulted by

and got hammered physically assaulted by

and got hammered physically assaulted by a lay teacher actually and after it

a lay teacher actually and after it

a lay teacher actually and after it happened I remembered in the faces of my

happened I remembered in the faces of my

happened I remembered in the faces of my peers that they could do nothing and I

peers that they could do nothing and I

peers that they could do nothing and I saw a pity luckily for me getting back

saw a pity luckily for me getting back

saw a pity luckily for me getting back to my mother I went home and I lived

to my mother I went home and I lived

to my mother I went home and I lived nearby and I told my mother and my

nearby and I told my mother and my

nearby and I told my mother and my mother came down and sorted it out and

mother came down and sorted it out and

mother came down and sorted it out and when I say sorted it out I mean sorted

when I say sorted it out I mean sorted

when I say sorted it out I mean sorted it out right up to the head brother she

it out right up to the head brother she

it out right up to the head brother she was using active empathy think about

was using active empathy think about

was using active empathy think about this now what we want for our kids when

this now what we want for our kids when

this now what we want for our kids when they go to school and I work in an

they go to school and I work in an

they go to school and I work in an education institution I really really

education institution I really really

education institution I really really think we have to think seriously about

think we have to think seriously about

think we have to think seriously about the Leaving Cert

the Leaving Cert

the Leaving Cert I think we really have to think

I think we really have to think

I think we really have to think seriously about education systems well

seriously about education systems well

seriously about education systems well one thing we do know when we send our

one thing we do know when we send our

one thing we do know when we send our kids to school is that we want them to

kids to school is that we want them to

kids to school is that we want them to learn mathematics to read to write and

learn mathematics to read to write and

learn mathematics to read to write and so forth but we also want them to be

so forth but we also want them to be

so forth but we also want them to be good people we also want them to be

good people we also want them to be

good people we also want them to be caring people regardless of religion

caring people regardless of religion

caring people regardless of religion regardless of creed sex regardless of

regardless of creed sex regardless of

regardless of creed sex regardless of everything we want them to be human

everything we want them to be human

everything we want them to be human and I would argue very very strongly

and I would argue very very strongly

and I would argue very very strongly that empathy education and schools

that empathy education and schools

that empathy education and schools should be compulsory and can be done

should be compulsory and can be done

should be compulsory and can be done easily and well there are two examples I

easily and well there are two examples I

easily and well there are two examples I will give you one in more detail the

will give you one in more detail the

will give you one in more detail the first example relates to the work of

first example relates to the work of

first example relates to the work of Mary Gordon in Canada who’s developed a

Mary Gordon in Canada who’s developed a

Mary Gordon in Canada who’s developed a program for primary schools called roots

program for primary schools called roots

program for primary schools called roots of empathy an absolutely excellent

of empathy an absolutely excellent

of empathy an absolutely excellent program pioneered by her and in that

program pioneered by her and in that

program pioneered by her and in that program a small baby is brought into the

program a small baby is brought into the

program a small baby is brought into the primary school with the mom or the dad

primary school with the mom or the dad

primary school with the mom or the dad usually the mom into the school and the

usually the mom into the school and the

usually the mom into the school and the children identify over a year with the

children identify over a year with the

children identify over a year with the baby they make eye contact with the baby

baby they make eye contact with the baby

baby they make eye contact with the baby the kids go at the baby they noticed

the kids go at the baby they noticed

the kids go at the baby they noticed that the baby is sitting up they noticed

that the baby is sitting up they noticed

that the baby is sitting up they noticed the babies ferreted they notice whatever

the babies ferreted they notice whatever

the babies ferreted they notice whatever happens and they talk about it and they

happens and they talk about it and they

happens and they talk about it and they talk about how the child has changed

talk about how the child has changed

talk about how the child has changed they connect with the baby they don’t

they connect with the baby they don’t

they connect with the baby they don’t see the child as in any way other than

see the child as in any way other than

see the child as in any way other than that beautiful child and that program

that beautiful child and that program

that beautiful child and that program roots of empathy which is entire schools

roots of empathy which is entire schools

roots of empathy which is entire schools Bernard as I’ve introduced it is really

Bernard as I’ve introduced it is really

Bernard as I’ve introduced it is really a burning program I am really interested

a burning program I am really interested

a burning program I am really interested in adolescents in the research center

in adolescents in the research center

in adolescents in the research center that I work in and with colleagues there

that I work in and with colleagues there

that I work in and with colleagues there dr. Barrington Brady Kyra Boylan and

dr. Barrington Brady Kyra Boylan and

dr. Barrington Brady Kyra Boylan and Daniel Kenan we’ve been working on

Daniel Kenan we’ve been working on

Daniel Kenan we’ve been working on empathy education for secondary schools

empathy education for secondary schools

empathy education for secondary schools and we’re doing that with the help of

and we’re doing that with the help of

and we’re doing that with the help of young people calling me by that is we

young people calling me by that is we

young people calling me by that is we train youth as researchers so just to

train youth as researchers so just to

train youth as researchers so just to say when I talk about training youth as

say when I talk about training youth as

say when I talk about training youth as researchers I don’t mean doing research

researchers I don’t mean doing research

researchers I don’t mean doing research on youth

on youth

on youth I mean youth actually doing the research

I mean youth actually doing the research

I mean youth actually doing the research and I’ll give you some examples in a

and I’ll give you some examples in a

and I’ll give you some examples in a moment of that so how that works is the

moment of that so how that works is the

moment of that so how that works is the young people learn research methods they

young people learn research methods they

young people learn research methods they learn bias they learn ethics they learn

learn bias they learn ethics they learn

learn bias they learn ethics they learn all the things that you need for social

all the things that you need for social

all the things that you need for social research and they actually have

research and they actually have

research and they actually have developed a really really good training

developed a really really good training

developed a really really good training manual on research methods it’s so good

manual on research methods it’s so good

manual on research methods it’s so good that it’s better than some of my

that it’s better than some of my

that it’s better than some of my colleagues teach in masters level and

colleagues teach in masters level and

colleagues teach in masters level and I’ve said that publicly but it really is

I’ve said that publicly but it really is

I’ve said that publicly but it really is good they’ve developed really really

good they’ve developed really really

good they’ve developed really really good research manual and I’ll give you

good research manual and I’ll give you

good research manual and I’ll give you three examples so what they do is they

three examples so what they do is they

three examples so what they do is they do a piece of research and when they

do a piece of research and when they

do a piece of research and when they complete the piece of research they make

complete the piece of research they make

complete the piece of research they make a short four five minute video to share

a short four five minute video to share

a short four five minute video to share the video in classrooms and as part of

the video in classrooms and as part of

the video in classrooms and as part of the program around various issues so I

the program around various issues so I

the program around various issues so I some examples of the work they’ve done

some examples of the work they’ve done

some examples of the work they’ve done so for example one group we worked we’ve

so for example one group we worked we’ve

so for example one group we worked we’ve worked a lot with Fraga on this and one

worked a lot with Fraga on this and one

worked a lot with Fraga on this and one group in West Halle we’re looking at the

group in West Halle we’re looking at the

group in West Halle we’re looking at the issue of being LGBT in West Halle and

issue of being LGBT in West Halle and

issue of being LGBT in West Halle and the issue of coming out if your

the issue of coming out if your

the issue of coming out if your adolescent and your own safety a very

adolescent and your own safety a very

adolescent and your own safety a very real issue another group in North

real issue another group in North

real issue another group in North Leitrim looked at the issue of youth

Leitrim looked at the issue of youth

Leitrim looked at the issue of youth homelessness in rural areas which is not

homelessness in rural areas which is not

homelessness in rural areas which is not discussed very much and talked about and

discussed very much and talked about and

discussed very much and talked about and looked at research and found out that

looked at research and found out that

looked at research and found out that there were young people in their school

there were young people in their school

there were young people in their school who were trying to deal with

who were trying to deal with

who were trying to deal with homelessness and disguise the house they

homelessness and disguise the house they

homelessness and disguise the house they went home because they didn’t have one

went home because they didn’t have one

went home because they didn’t have one an even greater example or an equally

an even greater example or an equally

an even greater example or an equally great example is the work of Ashland on

great example is the work of Ashland on

great example is the work of Ashland on fear

fear

fear brilliant youth researcher from Carrick

brilliant youth researcher from Carrick

brilliant youth researcher from Carrick and Shore and temporary when the floods

and Shore and temporary when the floods

and Shore and temporary when the floods hit Paracon sure two three years ago

hit Paracon sure two three years ago

hit Paracon sure two three years ago next January she and others really

next January she and others really

next January she and others really without word act of empathy and got old

without word act of empathy and got old

without word act of empathy and got old people out of their houses in the

people out of their houses in the

people out of their houses in the community and were first in to help and

community and were first in to help and

community and were first in to help and they just made a fantastic video of this

they just made a fantastic video of this

they just made a fantastic video of this I’m supported in this work by the actor

I’m supported in this work by the actor

I’m supported in this work by the actor Cillian Murphy whose patron of the

Cillian Murphy whose patron of the

Cillian Murphy whose patron of the center it’s interesting that when

center it’s interesting that when

center it’s interesting that when Everett kid Ian comes into the

Everett kid Ian comes into the

Everett kid Ian comes into the university everybody’s in but he has

university everybody’s in but he has

university everybody’s in but he has that effect but he is a good friend and

that effect but he is a good friend and

that effect but he is a good friend and a really loyal supporter and weed he

a really loyal supporter and weed he

a really loyal supporter and weed he takes the seriously and he has advised

takes the seriously and he has advised

takes the seriously and he has advised the young people a lot and of course the

the young people a lot and of course the

the young people a lot and of course the connection between arts music drama is

connection between arts music drama is

connection between arts music drama is all incorporated into the program with

all incorporated into the program with

all incorporated into the program with the videos the idea the program is that

the videos the idea the program is that

the videos the idea the program is that it’s youth teaching youth not out of

it’s youth teaching youth not out of

it’s youth teaching youth not out of teaching youth youth teaching youth

teaching youth youth teaching youth

teaching youth youth teaching youth which we think is very powerful I’m very

which we think is very powerful I’m very

which we think is very powerful I’m very grateful to the schools that have come

grateful to the schools that have come

grateful to the schools that have come forward 12 schools are working with us

forward 12 schools are working with us

forward 12 schools are working with us on this pilot project and we think it

on this pilot project and we think it

on this pilot project and we think it has huge resonance by the way it’s also

has huge resonance by the way it’s also

has huge resonance by the way it’s also gone I was gonna say viral international

gone I was gonna say viral international

gone I was gonna say viral international in the sense that we’re actually working

in the sense that we’re actually working

in the sense that we’re actually working with carolyn nash in myanmar away at the

with carolyn nash in myanmar away at the

with carolyn nash in myanmar away at the moment in relation to prevention youth

moment in relation to prevention youth

moment in relation to prevention youth violence on a very close colleague

violence on a very close colleague

violence on a very close colleague professor mark van and in penn state

professor mark van and in penn state

professor mark van and in penn state looking up since brutality and youth

looking up since brutality and youth

looking up since brutality and youth research very interesting projects so

research very interesting projects so

research very interesting projects so the idea of all this is that if you can

the idea of all this is that if you can

the idea of all this is that if you can create empathy as they create as a

create empathy as they create as a

create empathy as they create as a really take it seriously in schools and

really take it seriously in schools and

really take it seriously in schools and you know you could say well we can do it

you know you could say well we can do it

you know you could say well we can do it as part of well-being i think you can

as part of well-being i think you can

as part of well-being i think you can and well-being is very important of

and well-being is very important of

and well-being is very important of course it’s very important

course it’s very important

course it’s very important but there are lots of people I can think

but there are lots of people I can think

but there are lots of people I can think of politicians whose well-being

of politicians whose well-being

of politicians whose well-being very good but they don’t have empathy so

very good but they don’t have empathy so

very good but they don’t have empathy so not well-being and empathy are important

not well-being and empathy are important

not well-being and empathy are important but they need to be connected better so

but they need to be connected better so

but they need to be connected better so if that’s not convincing enough for you

if that’s not convincing enough for you

if that’s not convincing enough for you you know you okay commits me a bit more

you know you okay commits me a bit more

you know you okay commits me a bit more pass

pass

pass okay I’ll convince you a bit more the

okay I’ll convince you a bit more the

okay I’ll convince you a bit more the way I’m going to convince you is that

way I’m going to convince you is that

way I’m going to convince you is that actually the evidence is now showing

actually the evidence is now showing

actually the evidence is now showing that if you learn empathy in school you

that if you learn empathy in school you

that if you learn empathy in school you do better in school you actually

do better in school you actually

do better in school you actually actually achieve more academically if

actually achieve more academically if

actually achieve more academically if that is the reason you one would really

that is the reason you one would really

that is the reason you one would really want and I’m particularly grateful to

want and I’m particularly grateful to

want and I’m particularly grateful to the work of Elisabeth Siegel from the

the work of Elisabeth Siegel from the

the work of Elisabeth Siegel from the University of Arizona in America and her

University of Arizona in America and her

University of Arizona in America and her work on this and but the evidence is

work on this and but the evidence is

work on this and but the evidence is overwhelming that where you teach

overwhelming that where you teach

overwhelming that where you teach empathy in schools the performance the

empathy in schools the performance the

empathy in schools the performance the academic performance of youth improves

academic performance of youth improves

academic performance of youth improves which is really interesting but what’s

which is really interesting but what’s

which is really interesting but what’s really interesting about this as well

really interesting about this as well

really interesting about this as well comes from Jane Clinton’s work so the

comes from Jane Clinton’s work so the

comes from Jane Clinton’s work so the next slide I was going to show you I

next slide I was going to show you I

next slide I was going to show you I originally had a different idea in mind

originally had a different idea in mind

originally had a different idea in mind because the and I’ll tell you what the

because the and I’ll tell you what the

because the and I’ll tell you what the idea was in a second the way this works

idea was in a second the way this works

idea was in a second the way this works is there are neurons in the brain so

is there are neurons in the brain so

is there are neurons in the brain so this comes from neuroscience and what we

this comes from neuroscience and what we

this comes from neuroscience and what we now know from neuroscience is that as

now know from neuroscience is that as

now know from neuroscience is that as Jane says another lessons brain is under

Jane says another lessons brain is under

Jane says another lessons brain is under construction so do you remember back

construction so do you remember back

construction so do you remember back when you were a teenager and you were

when you were a teenager and you were

when you were a teenager and you were lying in bed on a Saturday morning and

lying in bed on a Saturday morning and

lying in bed on a Saturday morning and you wouldn’t get up to 12 or warning you

you wouldn’t get up to 12 or warning you

you wouldn’t get up to 12 or warning you really wanted to sleep you should have

really wanted to sleep you should have

really wanted to sleep you should have been that sleep your brain is still

been that sleep your brain is still

been that sleep your brain is still developing now if you’re out the night

developing now if you’re out the night

developing now if you’re out the night before that’s your own business that’s a

before that’s your own business that’s a

before that’s your own business that’s a different problem but generally speaking

different problem but generally speaking

different problem but generally speaking you adolescents need to sleep they need

you adolescents need to sleep they need

you adolescents need to sleep they need sleep because their brain is still

sleep because their brain is still

sleep because their brain is still growing and what we know from

growing and what we know from

growing and what we know from neuroscience who are the Nerds I’m not a

neuroscience who are the Nerds I’m not a

neuroscience who are the Nerds I’m not a nerd neuroscientist

nerd neuroscientist

nerd neuroscientist and by the way my wife always told me if

and by the way my wife always told me if

and by the way my wife always told me if you start talking you know I could share

you start talking you know I could share

you start talking you know I could share with you what I did for my PhD and this

with you what I did for my PhD and this

with you what I did for my PhD and this is not in any way just in James de mer

is not in any way just in James de mer

is not in any way just in James de mer but it’d be my wife always says the

but it’d be my wife always says the

but it’d be my wife always says the quickest way to clear a party in the

quickest way to clear a party in the

quickest way to clear a party in the house is to write a show photograph so

house is to write a show photograph so

house is to write a show photograph so get Pat to talk about his PhD people

get Pat to talk about his PhD people

get Pat to talk about his PhD people leave pretty quickly so you can imagine

leave pretty quickly so you can imagine

leave pretty quickly so you can imagine if you engage with neuroscientists

if you engage with neuroscientists

if you engage with neuroscientists around this variable to bring you but

around this variable to bring you but

around this variable to bring you but there are what they call mirror neurons

there are what they call mirror neurons

there are what they call mirror neurons in the brain I’m particularly at the

in the brain I’m particularly at the

in the brain I’m particularly at the back of the brain and when those where

back of the brain and when those where

back of the brain and when those where our neurons are most active empathy

our neurons are most active empathy

our neurons are most active empathy goals

goals

goals it’s literally plasticity in the brain

it’s literally plasticity in the brain

it’s literally plasticity in the brain a lot of stuff going on in there

a lot of stuff going on in there

a lot of stuff going on in there Pleakley towards the frontal lobe by the

Pleakley towards the frontal lobe by the

Pleakley towards the frontal lobe by the way the original slide I was gonna put

way the original slide I was gonna put

way the original slide I was gonna put in here was from the Beano from the

in here was from the Beano from the

in here was from the Beano from the numbskulls because I love the way the

numbskulls because I love the way the

numbskulls because I love the way the numskulls had all these things going on

numskulls had all these things going on

numskulls had all these things going on your head but I chose not to do that so

your head but I chose not to do that so

your head but I chose not to do that so I think there is a journey in life that

I think there is a journey in life that

I think there is a journey in life that we all take I mean what what you know

we all take I mean what what you know

we all take I mean what what you know what do we want to be any of us in life

what do we want to be any of us in life

what do we want to be any of us in life is is is happiness contentment and you

is is is happiness contentment and you

is is is happiness contentment and you know if we’re really concerned about the

know if we’re really concerned about the

know if we’re really concerned about the environment which we should be and you

environment which we should be and you

environment which we should be and you know we’ve heard a lot about why we

know we’ve heard a lot about why we

know we’ve heard a lot about why we should be concerned about the

should be concerned about the

should be concerned about the environment we have to be concerned

environment we have to be concerned

environment we have to be concerned about humanity and humanity has to take

about humanity and humanity has to take

about humanity and humanity has to take over in a way maybe that it didn’t

over in a way maybe that it didn’t

over in a way maybe that it didn’t before and technology I think is really

before and technology I think is really

before and technology I think is really important and very useful but I think we

important and very useful but I think we

important and very useful but I think we do really need to stitch in humanity and

do really need to stitch in humanity and

do really need to stitch in humanity and I do believe very very strongly that

I do believe very very strongly that

I do believe very very strongly that empathy education can bring us there

empathy education can bring us there

empathy education can bring us there thank you very much

thank you very much

thank you very much [Applause]

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