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There are Wrong Ways to Help: Examples from Afghanistan | Bethany Lerch | TEDxOshkosh


I never should have made it to

I never should have made it to Afghanistan as a student of

Afghanistan as a student of

Afghanistan as a student of international and terrorism studies I

international and terrorism studies I

international and terrorism studies I had always wanted to go but it was never

had always wanted to go but it was never

had always wanted to go but it was never really supposed to happen because even

really supposed to happen because even

really supposed to happen because even though what I studied lent itself to

though what I studied lent itself to

though what I studied lent itself to government I never seemed able to find

government I never seemed able to find

government I never seemed able to find the right place apply at the right time

the right place apply at the right time

the right place apply at the right time or quite frankly be the right person

or quite frankly be the right person

or quite frankly be the right person until suddenly oddly someone thought I

until suddenly oddly someone thought I

until suddenly oddly someone thought I was my qualifications to work in Kabul

was my qualifications to work in Kabul

was my qualifications to work in Kabul were sufficient but they hardly compared

were sufficient but they hardly compared

were sufficient but they hardly compared to the outstanding accomplishments of my

to the outstanding accomplishments of my

to the outstanding accomplishments of my subject matter expert colleagues what I

subject matter expert colleagues what I

subject matter expert colleagues what I lacked in skill I harbored an enthusiasm

lacked in skill I harbored an enthusiasm

lacked in skill I harbored an enthusiasm for the mission to train advise and

for the mission to train advise and

for the mission to train advise and assist Afghan so there I was I showed up

assist Afghan so there I was I showed up

assist Afghan so there I was I showed up with big ears and eyes and believing and

with big ears and eyes and believing and

with big ears and eyes and believing and winning without knowing like most

winning without knowing like most

winning without knowing like most unfortunately what it takes to win for

unfortunately what it takes to win for

unfortunately what it takes to win for the first seven months I trained the

the first seven months I trained the

the first seven months I trained the trainer instructing coalition advisors

trainer instructing coalition advisors

trainer instructing coalition advisors who in turn assisted Afghan civilians

who in turn assisted Afghan civilians

who in turn assisted Afghan civilians police and military members over time

police and military members over time

police and military members over time though my hopefulness faded and I found

though my hopefulness faded and I found

though my hopefulness faded and I found a sad home in doubt and his trust by

a sad home in doubt and his trust by

a sad home in doubt and his trust by chance I crossed paths with the former

chance I crossed paths with the former

chance I crossed paths with the former governance and rule of law advisor to

governance and rule of law advisor to

governance and rule of law advisor to five previous four-star ICF commanders

five previous four-star ICF commanders

five previous four-star ICF commanders with his mentorship I learned a great

with his mentorship I learned a great

with his mentorship I learned a great deal I sharpened my ability to discern

deal I sharpened my ability to discern

deal I sharpened my ability to discern and I began to deal in realism for the

and I began to deal in realism for the

and I began to deal in realism for the next nine months I worked off base

next nine months I worked off base

next nine months I worked off base directly with Afghans in the end I came

directly with Afghans in the end I came

directly with Afghans in the end I came away with cautious optimism for

away with cautious optimism for

away with cautious optimism for Afghanistan in a real sense and

Afghanistan in a real sense and

Afghanistan in a real sense and appreciation for pragmatism when it

appreciation for pragmatism when it

appreciation for pragmatism when it comes to making a difference bearing in

comes to making a difference bearing in

comes to making a difference bearing in mind that today is about ideas that

mind that today is about ideas that

mind that today is about ideas that challenge us I’d like to share one with

challenge us I’d like to share one with

challenge us I’d like to share one with you that I would have countered with

you that I would have countered with

you that I would have countered with gusto just a few short years ago no no I

gusto just a few short years ago no no I

gusto just a few short years ago no no I would have told you that’s not how it

would have told you that’s not how it

would have told you that’s not how it works any help is better than no help

now I know there are wrong ways to help

now I know there are wrong ways to help my shift in perspective came with those

my shift in perspective came with those

my shift in perspective came with those sixteen formative months in Afghanistan

sixteen formative months in Afghanistan

sixteen formative months in Afghanistan where I saw that sometimes it’s better

where I saw that sometimes it’s better

where I saw that sometimes it’s better not to help at all than to do so

not to help at all than to do so

not to help at all than to do so unwisely challenging though it would be

unwisely challenging though it would be

unwisely challenging though it would be there are no answers for how to fix

there are no answers for how to fix

there are no answers for how to fix Afghanistan today that’s not why we’re

Afghanistan today that’s not why we’re

Afghanistan today that’s not why we’re here instead I have three theories about

here instead I have three theories about

here instead I have three theories about how to help one another and how not to

how to help one another and how not to

how to help one another and how not to help one another whether as states

help one another whether as states

help one another whether as states communities or neighbors well we need to

communities or neighbors well we need to

communities or neighbors well we need to be better at together is recognizing the

be better at together is recognizing the

be better at together is recognizing the help we give is not wanted or working

help we give is not wanted or working

help we give is not wanted or working because there is value in stopping not

because there is value in stopping not

because there is value in stopping not repeating that which consistently fails

repeating that which consistently fails

repeating that which consistently fails help that fails to make a positive

help that fails to make a positive

help that fails to make a positive change my first theory is that bigger is

change my first theory is that bigger is

change my first theory is that bigger is not better nor is more only in some

not better nor is more only in some

not better nor is more only in some cases can success be had by blanketing a

cases can success be had by blanketing a

cases can success be had by blanketing a problem with large sums of money and an

problem with large sums of money and an

problem with large sums of money and an influx of people looking back Great

influx of people looking back Great

influx of people looking back Great Britain’s 18th and 19th century exploits

Britain’s 18th and 19th century exploits

Britain’s 18th and 19th century exploits in Afghanistan were mixed but the

in Afghanistan were mixed but the

in Afghanistan were mixed but the Imperial model overall usually resulted

Imperial model overall usually resulted

Imperial model overall usually resulted in growth for its colonies and one of

in growth for its colonies and one of

in growth for its colonies and one of the reasons for this success was because

the reasons for this success was because

the reasons for this success was because Great Britain deployed a smaller

Great Britain deployed a smaller

Great Britain deployed a smaller footprint of highly qualified

footprint of highly qualified

footprint of highly qualified individuals willing and able to sustain

individuals willing and able to sustain

individuals willing and able to sustain the mission in one place for years on

the mission in one place for years on

the mission in one place for years on end if not their lives the model of the

end if not their lives the model of the

end if not their lives the model of the model if you will was a man named

model if you will was a man named

model if you will was a man named Alexander burns flawed in some respects

Alexander burns flawed in some respects

Alexander burns flawed in some respects but deeply talented in most others Burns

but deeply talented in most others Burns

but deeply talented in most others Burns was the kingdom’s brightest political

was the kingdom’s brightest political

was the kingdom’s brightest political officer to Afghanistan in the 1800’s

officer to Afghanistan in the 1800’s

officer to Afghanistan in the 1800’s that that’s because he he took it upon

that that’s because he he took it upon

that that’s because he he took it upon himself to live among the people he

himself to live among the people he

himself to live among the people he learned the language and he spoke it

learned the language and he spoke it

learned the language and he spoke it fluently he knew the culture intimately

fluently he knew the culture intimately

fluently he knew the culture intimately he wrote prolifically about his travel

he wrote prolifically about his travel

he wrote prolifically about his travel and experiences and his copious notes

and experiences and his copious notes

and experiences and his copious notes went on to better explain Afghan

went on to better explain Afghan

went on to better explain Afghan people’s tribes and ways of life and

people’s tribes and ways of life and

people’s tribes and ways of life and they are still referenced today Burns

they are still referenced today Burns

they are still referenced today Burns was much like Lawrence of Arabia both of

was much like Lawrence of Arabia both of

was much like Lawrence of Arabia both of them career

them career

them career British statesman in one place they

British statesman in one place they

British statesman in one place they didn’t just balance the books they were

didn’t just balance the books they were

didn’t just balance the books they were there to ensure that colonial governance

there to ensure that colonial governance

there to ensure that colonial governance functions smoothly day to day and their

functions smoothly day to day and their

functions smoothly day to day and their approach was anthropologists like

approach was anthropologists like

approach was anthropologists like because they were patient and happy to

because they were patient and happy to

because they were patient and happy to live with like the people this made all

live with like the people this made all

live with like the people this made all the difference

the difference

the difference fast forward to late 2001 to the West

fast forward to late 2001 to the West

fast forward to late 2001 to the West arrival in Afghanistan since then in 15

arrival in Afghanistan since then in 15

arrival in Afghanistan since then in 15 years literally millions of foreigners

years literally millions of foreigners

years literally millions of foreigners have rotated in and then rotated back

have rotated in and then rotated back

have rotated in and then rotated back out

out

out this modern revolving door of personnel

this modern revolving door of personnel

this modern revolving door of personnel strains the crucial cultural element

strains the crucial cultural element

strains the crucial cultural element needed in Afghanistan above all else and

needed in Afghanistan above all else and

needed in Afghanistan above all else and that’s trust in counterinsurgency clear

that’s trust in counterinsurgency clear

that’s trust in counterinsurgency clear hold build depends as much on human

hold build depends as much on human

hold build depends as much on human capital as it does on financial capital

capital as it does on financial capital

capital as it does on financial capital and both can be misused I would argue

and both can be misused I would argue

and both can be misused I would argue controversial maybe perhaps people

controversial maybe perhaps people

controversial maybe perhaps people should be screened before they go to

should be screened before they go to

should be screened before they go to execute the strategy do they really care

execute the strategy do they really care

execute the strategy do they really care about winning hearts and minds in my

about winning hearts and minds in my

about winning hearts and minds in my time as a trainer in Kabul I met more

time as a trainer in Kabul I met more

time as a trainer in Kabul I met more than a few who did not care once while

than a few who did not care once while

than a few who did not care once while leading a session on Afghan culture and

leading a session on Afghan culture and

leading a session on Afghan culture and the importance of greeting one another

the importance of greeting one another

the importance of greeting one another greeting their counterparts in dari the

greeting their counterparts in dari the

greeting their counterparts in dari the local language a DoD civilian rolled her

local language a DoD civilian rolled her

local language a DoD civilian rolled her eyes and interjected why should we say

eyes and interjected why should we say

eyes and interjected why should we say hello to them what have they ever done

hello to them what have they ever done

hello to them what have they ever done for us I was shocked

for us I was shocked

for us I was shocked mostly I was discouraged the mission is

mostly I was discouraged the mission is

mostly I was discouraged the mission is to help Afghans in Afghanistan if you

to help Afghans in Afghanistan if you

to help Afghans in Afghanistan if you cannot bring yourself to say hello what

cannot bring yourself to say hello what

cannot bring yourself to say hello what are you doing here

are you doing here

are you doing here [Music]

[Music]

[Music] it made me wonder money-wise millions of

it made me wonder money-wise millions of

it made me wonder money-wise millions of dollars are spent per hour in

dollars are spent per hour in

dollars are spent per hour in Afghanistan a great many things have

Afghanistan a great many things have

Afghanistan a great many things have been done with this amount though not

been done with this amount though not

been done with this amount though not without error issues began when instead

without error issues began when instead

without error issues began when instead of asking how much to borrow this land

of asking how much to borrow this land

of asking how much to borrow this land often the modus operandi was to transfer

often the modus operandi was to transfer

often the modus operandi was to transfer cash when additional space was needed at

cash when additional space was needed at

cash when additional space was needed at a later time or in another space there

a later time or in another space there

a later time or in another space there was less maneuverability to negotiate

was less maneuverability to negotiate

was less maneuverability to negotiate the West’s habit of paying exorbitant

the West’s habit of paying exorbitant

the West’s habit of paying exorbitant sums in a country with his staggering

sums in a country with his staggering

sums in a country with his staggering poverty as Afghanistan it went on to

poverty as Afghanistan it went on to

poverty as Afghanistan it went on to limit our long-term sustainability

limit our long-term sustainability

limit our long-term sustainability influenced expectations on both sides

influenced expectations on both sides

influenced expectations on both sides and affect their culture always

and affect their culture always

and affect their culture always problematic in Afghanistan is a penchant

problematic in Afghanistan is a penchant

problematic in Afghanistan is a penchant for graft tidal waves of money made it

for graft tidal waves of money made it

for graft tidal waves of money made it worse corruption has been deemed the

worse corruption has been deemed the

worse corruption has been deemed the most significant threat to stability in

most significant threat to stability in

most significant threat to stability in Afghanistan two examples spring to mind

Afghanistan two examples spring to mind

Afghanistan two examples spring to mind here one quite big and well known the

here one quite big and well known the

here one quite big and well known the other less so but more prevalent first

other less so but more prevalent first

other less so but more prevalent first Kabul Bank was new to the development

Kabul Bank was new to the development

Kabul Bank was new to the development scene in the early 2000s by 2010 just

scene in the early 2000s by 2010 just

scene in the early 2000s by 2010 just under 1 billion dollars had been

under 1 billion dollars had been

under 1 billion dollars had been swindled from its depositors by the

swindled from its depositors by the

swindled from its depositors by the Afghan elite second an Afghan military

Afghan elite second an Afghan military

Afghan elite second an Afghan military commander part of a training facility

commander part of a training facility

commander part of a training facility agreed to build a separation barrier

agreed to build a separation barrier

agreed to build a separation barrier between male and female barracks because

between male and female barracks because

between male and female barracks because the women were being harassed this was a

the women were being harassed this was a

the women were being harassed this was a project to be done with foreign funds

project to be done with foreign funds

project to be done with foreign funds when the money was allocated he took it

when the money was allocated he took it

when the money was allocated he took it and he built himself a personal pool

and he built himself a personal pool

and he built himself a personal pool people are an investment when it comes

people are an investment when it comes

people are an investment when it comes to helping others especially in

to helping others especially in

to helping others especially in Afghanistan where there is nothing

Afghanistan where there is nothing

Afghanistan where there is nothing without trust what would it be like to

without trust what would it be like to

without trust what would it be like to scale down the mission go back to those

scale down the mission go back to those

scale down the mission go back to those willing and able to live work among

willing and able to live work among

willing and able to live work among Afghans for the long haul I think there

Afghans for the long haul I think there

Afghans for the long haul I think there would be value in that old-fashioned

would be value in that old-fashioned

would be value in that old-fashioned diplomacy it would cost less there would

diplomacy it would cost less there would

diplomacy it would cost less there would be less opportunity to steal

be less opportunity to steal

be less opportunity to steal and I bet there’s a strong chance that

and I bet there’s a strong chance that

and I bet there’s a strong chance that Afghans would enjoy more stability than

Afghans would enjoy more stability than

Afghans would enjoy more stability than they do now my second theory is that

they do now my second theory is that

they do now my second theory is that change is restricted when change is

change is restricted when change is

change is restricted when change is forced during the Taliban there were no

forced during the Taliban there were no

forced during the Taliban there were no women’s rights in Afghanistan

women’s rights in Afghanistan

women’s rights in Afghanistan Afghanistan still ranks among the lowest

Afghanistan still ranks among the lowest

Afghanistan still ranks among the lowest in the world at gender equality and

in the world at gender equality and

in the world at gender equality and integration in March 2015 a young woman

integration in March 2015 a young woman

integration in March 2015 a young woman named for Honda was violent and killed

named for Honda was violent and killed

named for Honda was violent and killed by a mob in downtown Kabul President

by a mob in downtown Kabul President

by a mob in downtown Kabul President Ghani promised justice when in reality

Ghani promised justice when in reality

Ghani promised justice when in reality the lawyer representing the victim’s

the lawyer representing the victim’s

the lawyer representing the victim’s family was quietly asked to step down

family was quietly asked to step down

family was quietly asked to step down from the highest levels of government

from the highest levels of government

from the highest levels of government judicial proceedings for the men and

judicial proceedings for the men and

judicial proceedings for the men and some women actually who beat farkhunda

some women actually who beat farkhunda

some women actually who beat farkhunda who ran her over and dragged her by car

who ran her over and dragged her by car

who ran her over and dragged her by car and then lit her body on fire were

and then lit her body on fire were

and then lit her body on fire were appalling there were hundreds in that

appalling there were hundreds in that

appalling there were hundreds in that crowd only 49 were accused less than

crowd only 49 were accused less than

crowd only 49 were accused less than half were formally charged and every

half were formally charged and every

half were formally charged and every sentence was later reduced unfortunately

sentence was later reduced unfortunately

sentence was later reduced unfortunately too many conservative Afghans women just

too many conservative Afghans women just

too many conservative Afghans women just do not have the same rights or worth as

do not have the same rights or worth as

do not have the same rights or worth as men even so there is concentrated effort

men even so there is concentrated effort

men even so there is concentrated effort by the West for Afghanistan to

by the West for Afghanistan to

by the West for Afghanistan to incorporate women into its national

incorporate women into its national

incorporate women into its national security apparatus in order to do that

security apparatus in order to do that

security apparatus in order to do that Afghanistan has agreed to implement

Afghanistan has agreed to implement

Afghanistan has agreed to implement international law in the form of a UN

international law in the form of a UN

international law in the form of a UN Security Council resolution that enables

Security Council resolution that enables

Security Council resolution that enables women to participate in post-conflict

women to participate in post-conflict

women to participate in post-conflict reconstruction now there are some who

reconstruction now there are some who

reconstruction now there are some who genuinely wants and actively strive

genuinely wants and actively strive

genuinely wants and actively strive toward gender integration in Afghanistan

toward gender integration in Afghanistan

toward gender integration in Afghanistan but this decidedly new initiative is not

but this decidedly new initiative is not

but this decidedly new initiative is not as idealistic as one would hope in fact

as idealistic as one would hope in fact

as idealistic as one would hope in fact its bolstered in large part by

its bolstered in large part by

its bolstered in large part by substantial financial incentive as seen

substantial financial incentive as seen

substantial financial incentive as seen in the last case of that missing

in the last case of that missing

in the last case of that missing separation barrier Afghan women are

separation barrier Afghan women are

separation barrier Afghan women are primarily seen as wives and mothers and

primarily seen as wives and mothers and

primarily seen as wives and mothers and often physically separated from men who

often physically separated from men who

often physically separated from men who are not family to include women in

are not family to include women in

are not family to include women in uniform like men with men makes for a

uniform like men with men makes for a

uniform like men with men makes for a sudden switch it’s a presume to us for

sudden switch it’s a presume to us for

sudden switch it’s a presume to us for foreigners to come in and announce we

foreigners to come in and announce we

foreigners to come in and announce we have women in our armed forces so should

have women in our armed forces so should

have women in our armed forces so should you

that’s misrepresentative of real change

that’s misrepresentative of real change I think real change is not that easy and

I think real change is not that easy and

I think real change is not that easy and here’s why

here’s why

here’s why in 2010 the Afghan government set a real

in 2010 the Afghan government set a real

in 2010 the Afghan government set a real ambitious goal we want 10% of the

ambitious goal we want 10% of the

ambitious goal we want 10% of the National Defense and security forces to

National Defense and security forces to

National Defense and security forces to be women in ten years five years into

be women in ten years five years into

be women in ten years five years into that goal 0.5% of the army was women and

that goal 0.5% of the army was women and

that goal 0.5% of the army was women and 1.5 percent of the police was women they

1.5 percent of the police was women they

1.5 percent of the police was women they have since gone back to the drawing

have since gone back to the drawing

have since gone back to the drawing board on that to find a goal that is

board on that to find a goal that is

board on that to find a goal that is more feasible for Afghanistan at the

more feasible for Afghanistan at the

more feasible for Afghanistan at the highest levels of government there is

highest levels of government there is

highest levels of government there is support for gender integration at the

support for gender integration at the

support for gender integration at the micro level sharing authority with women

micro level sharing authority with women

micro level sharing authority with women is not popular as a consequence Afghan

is not popular as a consequence Afghan

is not popular as a consequence Afghan service women have serious complaints

service women have serious complaints

service women have serious complaints passed over for promotion no facilities

passed over for promotion no facilities

passed over for promotion no facilities verbal harassment abuse threats hearing

verbal harassment abuse threats hearing

verbal harassment abuse threats hearing about the challenges of Afghan service

about the challenges of Afghan service

about the challenges of Afghan service women directly from Afghan service women

women directly from Afghan service women

women directly from Afghan service women got me thinking and it got to me

got me thinking and it got to me

got me thinking and it got to me mostly what if this kind of push for

mostly what if this kind of push for

mostly what if this kind of push for this kind of gender integration

this kind of gender integration

this kind of gender integration admirable though it is is too much too

admirable though it is is too much too

admirable though it is is too much too soon if there is more harm than good in

soon if there is more harm than good in

soon if there is more harm than good in action right now maybe there is more

action right now maybe there is more

action right now maybe there is more good than harm and utility in

good than harm and utility in

good than harm and utility in old-fashioned conversation think of it

old-fashioned conversation think of it

old-fashioned conversation think of it like ink blotting one conversation is

like ink blotting one conversation is

like ink blotting one conversation is one dot over time that dot gains

one dot over time that dot gains

one dot over time that dot gains traction a little bit by itself but once

traction a little bit by itself but once

traction a little bit by itself but once it hits other dots of ink it grows it

it hits other dots of ink it grows it

it hits other dots of ink it grows it becomes a blot in order to have women in

becomes a blot in order to have women in

becomes a blot in order to have women in the in the services in Afghanistan

the in the services in Afghanistan

the in the services in Afghanistan there’s a prerequisite a woman cannot

there’s a prerequisite a woman cannot

there’s a prerequisite a woman cannot sign up by herself she has to have the

sign up by herself she has to have the

sign up by herself she has to have the permission of her father brother or her

permission of her father brother or her

permission of her father brother or her husband that’s why this is called gender

husband that’s why this is called gender

husband that’s why this is called gender integration both of them that’s why it’s

integration both of them that’s why it’s

integration both of them that’s why it’s important to create that exposure first

important to create that exposure first

important to create that exposure first if you’re going to have Afghan women

if you’re going to have Afghan women

if you’re going to have Afghan women serving their country perhaps having

serving their country perhaps having

serving their country perhaps having weapons this is a drastically different

weapons this is a drastically different

weapons this is a drastically different thing you need to talk about it first

thing you need to talk about it first

thing you need to talk about it first ergo the value of all encompassing

ergo the value of all encompassing

ergo the value of all encompassing conversation

conversation

conversation whereby you introduce an idea to a

whereby you introduce an idea to a

whereby you introduce an idea to a people before that idea simply manifests

people before that idea simply manifests

people before that idea simply manifests itself before people can accept it my

itself before people can accept it my

itself before people can accept it my third theory is that there are cultural

third theory is that there are cultural

third theory is that there are cultural limits to what is possible and that this

limits to what is possible and that this

limits to what is possible and that this is actually okay being a new person in a

is actually okay being a new person in a

is actually okay being a new person in a new place is about being aware who is in

new place is about being aware who is in

new place is about being aware who is in the same space how do they interact this

the same space how do they interact this

the same space how do they interact this takes a lot of looking and listening

takes a lot of looking and listening

takes a lot of looking and listening because as a change agent you’re

because as a change agent you’re

because as a change agent you’re expected to fit into that setting you

expected to fit into that setting you

expected to fit into that setting you are expected to respect that culture and

are expected to respect that culture and

are expected to respect that culture and adapt to it as best as you can

adapt to it as best as you can

adapt to it as best as you can regrettably many change agents show up

regrettably many change agents show up

regrettably many change agents show up and ask what are my goals according to

and ask what are my goals according to

and ask what are my goals according to what I know when the wiser question is

what I know when the wiser question is

what I know when the wiser question is what are realistic goals according to

what are realistic goals according to

what are realistic goals according to the host audience and their culture some

the host audience and their culture some

the host audience and their culture some years ago there were reports that

years ago there were reports that

years ago there were reports that coalition personnel working with a

coalition personnel working with a

coalition personnel working with a village without local access to water

village without local access to water

village without local access to water bill to well in that village to help it

bill to well in that village to help it

bill to well in that village to help it seemed logical it was part of

seemed logical it was part of

seemed logical it was part of counterinsurgency strategy to assist

counterinsurgency strategy to assist

counterinsurgency strategy to assist rural villages later when coalition

rural villages later when coalition

rural villages later when coalition personnel returned they found the well

personnel returned they found the well

personnel returned they found the well destroyed those of you who have seen

destroyed those of you who have seen

destroyed those of you who have seen Tina Fey and whiskey-tango-foxtrot may

Tina Fey and whiskey-tango-foxtrot may

Tina Fey and whiskey-tango-foxtrot may already be familiar now the reports they

already be familiar now the reports they

already be familiar now the reports they suggested that village women were to

suggested that village women were to

suggested that village women were to blame because they couldn’t walk and

blame because they couldn’t walk and

blame because they couldn’t walk and talk on their way to get water had a

talk on their way to get water had a

talk on their way to get water had a woman that involved in this an Afghan

woman that involved in this an Afghan

woman that involved in this an Afghan woman been involved in the

woman been involved in the

woman been involved in the decision-making maybe the outcome would

decision-making maybe the outcome would

decision-making maybe the outcome would have been different I would argue that’s

have been different I would argue that’s

have been different I would argue that’s that’s probably a measure that’s too

that’s probably a measure that’s too

that’s probably a measure that’s too much too soon for Afghanistan and for

much too soon for Afghanistan and for

much too soon for Afghanistan and for conservative rural areas which accounts

conservative rural areas which accounts

conservative rural areas which accounts for 80% of the population had someone

for 80% of the population had someone

for 80% of the population had someone been present someone else a foreigner

been present someone else a foreigner

been present someone else a foreigner maybe who knew more about Afghan women

maybe who knew more about Afghan women

maybe who knew more about Afghan women and village culture we could have

and village culture we could have

and village culture we could have avoided the security risk for one and we

avoided the security risk for one and we

avoided the security risk for one and we could have saved money spent on an

could have saved money spent on an

could have saved money spent on an unwanted well to be a respected change

unwanted well to be a respected change

unwanted well to be a respected change agent you have to know an audience so

agent you have to know an audience so

agent you have to know an audience so well as to know what goals are

well as to know what goals are

well as to know what goals are appropriate what goals will challenge

appropriate what goals will challenge

appropriate what goals will challenge their cult

their cult

their cult but also drive it forward in a quiet way

but also drive it forward in a quiet way

but also drive it forward in a quiet way you have to be willing to guide that

you have to be willing to guide that

you have to be willing to guide that audience many people at one time toured

audience many people at one time toured

audience many people at one time toured and through that goal with confidence it

and through that goal with confidence it

and through that goal with confidence it takes a lot of looking and listening and

takes a lot of looking and listening and

takes a lot of looking and listening and adapting because they’re not going to

adapting because they’re not going to

adapting because they’re not going to adapt to you it’s on you as the guest to

adapt to you it’s on you as the guest to

adapt to you it’s on you as the guest to adapt and there are entirely too many

adapt and there are entirely too many

adapt and there are entirely too many change agents who don’t but that’s

change agents who don’t but that’s

change agents who don’t but that’s what’s expected of you you have to know

what’s expected of you you have to know

what’s expected of you you have to know when to improvise when to modify your

when to improvise when to modify your

when to improvise when to modify your goal when to scrap it and start

goal when to scrap it and start

goal when to scrap it and start completely from scratch or do more

completely from scratch or do more

completely from scratch or do more research in April 2015 after that

research in April 2015 after that

research in April 2015 after that conference I got a chance to visit a

conference I got a chance to visit a

conference I got a chance to visit a Kabul orphanage and in our multiple

Kabul orphanage and in our multiple

Kabul orphanage and in our multiple convoys we carried monster sized boxes

convoys we carried monster sized boxes

convoys we carried monster sized boxes brimming with different kinds of toys

brimming with different kinds of toys

brimming with different kinds of toys the children all 88 of them were

the children all 88 of them were

the children all 88 of them were overjoyed to see us and us them and then

overjoyed to see us and us them and then

overjoyed to see us and us them and then they saw the toys and then chaos because

they saw the toys and then chaos because

they saw the toys and then chaos because they had nothing they wanted everything

they had nothing they wanted everything

they had nothing they wanted everything we were so looking forward to going

we were so looking forward to going

we were so looking forward to going there to meeting them to seeing young

there to meeting them to seeing young

there to meeting them to seeing young people giving them something we thought

people giving them something we thought

people giving them something we thought they would like but we hadn’t

they would like but we hadn’t

they would like but we hadn’t coordinated our gift with the orphanage

coordinated our gift with the orphanage

coordinated our gift with the orphanage staff so we didn’t know and we didn’t

staff so we didn’t know and we didn’t

staff so we didn’t know and we didn’t think that bringing toys would also

think that bringing toys would also

think that bringing toys would also bring mayhem two months later we packed

bring mayhem two months later we packed

bring mayhem two months later we packed 88 mostly the same school kits the boys

88 mostly the same school kits the boys

88 mostly the same school kits the boys and girls were happy we were happy it

and girls were happy we were happy it

and girls were happy we were happy it was simple it worked

was simple it worked

was simple it worked changing course with the kids was a

changing course with the kids was a

changing course with the kids was a reminder that big go big this this does

reminder that big go big this this does

reminder that big go big this this does not always apply and I know we like to

not always apply and I know we like to

not always apply and I know we like to apply it but it doesn’t work all the

apply it but it doesn’t work all the

apply it but it doesn’t work all the time it’s a reminder that force change

time it’s a reminder that force change

time it’s a reminder that force change tends to be inadequate and it’s a

tends to be inadequate and it’s a

tends to be inadequate and it’s a reminder that there are assistance goals

reminder that there are assistance goals

reminder that there are assistance goals somehow I made it to Afghanistan and

somehow I made it to Afghanistan and

somehow I made it to Afghanistan and what I learned and internalized is that

what I learned and internalized is that

what I learned and internalized is that there are many ways people can make

there are many ways people can make

there are many ways people can make change and help not all of which are

change and help not all of which are

change and help not all of which are effective are appropriate for instance

effective are appropriate for instance

effective are appropriate for instance you can

you can

you can blast Rock to radically alter a

blast Rock to radically alter a

blast Rock to radically alter a landscape or you can learn to control

landscape or you can learn to control

landscape or you can learn to control explosions as in the kinds inside our

explosions as in the kinds inside our

explosions as in the kinds inside our car engines that propel us and others

car engines that propel us and others

car engines that propel us and others forward making and managing those bursts

forward making and managing those bursts

forward making and managing those bursts of change among people takes profound

of change among people takes profound

of change among people takes profound dedication helping Afghanistan it’s the

dedication helping Afghanistan it’s the

dedication helping Afghanistan it’s the macro version of helping others where

macro version of helping others where

macro version of helping others where the micro rule still applies help others

the micro rule still applies help others

the micro rule still applies help others for the sake of helping them what Plato

for the sake of helping them what Plato

for the sake of helping them what Plato would describe is truly noble and

would describe is truly noble and

would describe is truly noble and morally right the only real reason to

morally right the only real reason to

morally right the only real reason to give help helping others for the sake of

give help helping others for the sake of

give help helping others for the sake of helping them forces us URI as a system

helping them forces us URI as a system

helping them forces us URI as a system as change agents to be more deliberate

as change agents to be more deliberate

as change agents to be more deliberate and if that’s not our reason it’s likely

and if that’s not our reason it’s likely

and if that’s not our reason it’s likely the wrong way to help from the get-go

the wrong way to help from the get-go

the wrong way to help from the get-go and that’s a problem for the change

and that’s a problem for the change

and that’s a problem for the change agent not the audience a slower

agent not the audience a slower

agent not the audience a slower old-fashioned road may very well lead us

old-fashioned road may very well lead us

old-fashioned road may very well lead us to more valuable ways to inspire others

to more valuable ways to inspire others

to more valuable ways to inspire others to create and control those bursts of

to create and control those bursts of

to create and control those bursts of change for themselves

change for themselves

change for themselves and not be afraid of it that’s when help

and not be afraid of it that’s when help

and not be afraid of it that’s when help is right and when lasting change is

is right and when lasting change is

is right and when lasting change is possible thank you

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