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The Skew is the Cue | Ulrik William Nash | TEDxOdense


imagine you’re at the greengrocers and

imagine you’re at the greengrocers and there you place a huge bunch of grapes

there you place a huge bunch of grapes

there you place a huge bunch of grapes on the scale and get a nasty surprise

on the scale and get a nasty surprise

on the scale and get a nasty surprise because the numbers shown on the scale

because the numbers shown on the scale

because the numbers shown on the scale is not what you expect but you you need

is not what you expect but you you need

is not what you expect but you you need the grapes but you would hate to pay too

the grapes but you would hate to pay too

the grapes but you would hate to pay too much and so you think to yourself never

much and so you think to yourself never

much and so you think to yourself never mind but then you notice the greengrocer

mind but then you notice the greengrocer

mind but then you notice the greengrocer look in your direction and he’s looking

look in your direction and he’s looking

look in your direction and he’s looking too intensely at you you think and to

too intensely at you you think and to

too intensely at you you think and to make make matters worse he’s holding a

make make matters worse he’s holding a

make make matters worse he’s holding a large wad of cash in his hand which by

large wad of cash in his hand which by

large wad of cash in his hand which by now you’re thinking he’s probably

now you’re thinking he’s probably

now you’re thinking he’s probably appropriated from the poor fools who

appropriated from the poor fools who

appropriated from the poor fools who stood there before you but little does a

stood there before you but little does a

stood there before you but little does a green grocer know that you are no fool

green grocer know that you are no fool

green grocer know that you are no fool you know something about collective

you know something about collective

you know something about collective intelligence and now you plan to conjure

intelligence and now you plan to conjure

intelligence and now you plan to conjure up the wisdom of the crowds right there

up the wisdom of the crowds right there

up the wisdom of the crowds right there in the green growth grocery store

in the green growth grocery store

in the green growth grocery store because you’ve watched all against one

because you’ve watched all against one

because you’ve watched all against one the block posted Danish gameshow on

the block posted Danish gameshow on

the block posted Danish gameshow on based on wisdom of the crowds and you’ve

based on wisdom of the crowds and you’ve

based on wisdom of the crowds and you’ve seen just how easily the average opinion

seen just how easily the average opinion

seen just how easily the average opinion of ordinary viewers competed with the

of ordinary viewers competed with the

of ordinary viewers competed with the particularly bright participants in the

particularly bright participants in the

particularly bright participants in the studio so now you long to approach the

studio so now you long to approach the

studio so now you long to approach the greedy green green greedy green grocer

greedy green green greedy green grocer

greedy green green greedy green grocer with accurate information and tell me

with accurate information and tell me

with accurate information and tell me about the error of his ways and a scale

about the error of his ways and a scale

about the error of his ways and a scale so you begin to ask your fellow shoppers

so you begin to ask your fellow shoppers

so you begin to ask your fellow shoppers what they think about this bunch of

what they think about this bunch of

what they think about this bunch of graves so that you can calculate the

graves so that you can calculate the

graves so that you can calculate the average opinion and after many awkward

average opinion and after many awkward

average opinion and after many awkward moments you have your answer

moments you have your answer

moments you have your answer 875 grams 25 grams short of the 900

875 grams 25 grams short of the 900

875 grams 25 grams short of the 900 shown on the scale now admittedly this

shown on the scale now admittedly this

shown on the scale now admittedly this 25 gram deviation is a lot less than you

25 gram deviation is a lot less than you

25 gram deviation is a lot less than you thought but cheating is cheating you

thought but cheating is cheating you

thought but cheating is cheating you think and triumphantly you make your way

think and triumphantly you make your way

think and triumphantly you make your way to the counter the green grocer has been

to the counter the green grocer has been

to the counter the green grocer has been expecting you which obviously bugs you

expecting you which obviously bugs you

expecting you which obviously bugs you bought what really troubles you is what

bought what really troubles you is what

bought what really troubles you is what you instantly see behind his cancer it’s

you instantly see behind his cancer it’s

you instantly see behind his cancer it’s a large pile of literature on collective

a large pile of literature on collective

a large pile of literature on collective intelligence and it even includes

intelligence and it even includes

intelligence and it even includes similar works on the wisdom of crowds

similar works on the wisdom of crowds

similar works on the wisdom of crowds and then the Green Grove spree

and then the Green Grove spree

and then the Green Grove spree I see what you’ve been doing he says but

I see what you’ve been doing he says but

I see what you’ve been doing he says but there’s something that you should know

there’s something that you should know

there’s something that you should know while your strategy is remarkably

while your strategy is remarkably

while your strategy is remarkably powerful under normal circumstances it

powerful under normal circumstances it

powerful under normal circumstances it and not my scale is wrong here because

and not my scale is wrong here because

and not my scale is wrong here because you’re dealing with an item far from our

you’re dealing with an item far from our

you’re dealing with an item far from our typical experience and then it begins to

typical experience and then it begins to

typical experience and then it begins to lecture now we have long known that the

lecture now we have long known that the

lecture now we have long known that the average opinion of many people provides

average opinion of many people provides

average opinion of many people provides excellent information about the truth

excellent information about the truth

excellent information about the truth but there’s no reason to believe that

but there’s no reason to believe that

but there’s no reason to believe that the average opinion errors for reasons

the average opinion errors for reasons

the average opinion errors for reasons of psychology when the magnitude being

of psychology when the magnitude being

of psychology when the magnitude being presented is extreme in some way now

presented is extreme in some way now

presented is extreme in some way now what you have to do he almost whispers

what you have to do he almost whispers

what you have to do he almost whispers is look at the entire distribution of

is look at the entire distribution of

is look at the entire distribution of judgments and not just the central

judgments and not just the central

judgments and not just the central tendencies in particular you have to

tendencies in particular you have to

tendencies in particular you have to look at the way judgments skew or slant

look at the way judgments skew or slant

look at the way judgments skew or slant because that’s information that you can

because that’s information that you can

because that’s information that you can use to infer when the average opinion is

use to infer when the average opinion is

use to infer when the average opinion is erroring you could say concludes the

erroring you could say concludes the

erroring you could say concludes the knowledgeable greengrocer that skew is a

knowledgeable greengrocer that skew is a

knowledgeable greengrocer that skew is a cue for our collective error and with

cue for our collective error and with

cue for our collective error and with that you can do even better perhaps even

that you can do even better perhaps even

that you can do even better perhaps even as well as my mechanical scale now the

as well as my mechanical scale now the

as well as my mechanical scale now the greengrocer is correct and that’s

greengrocer is correct and that’s

greengrocer is correct and that’s important for all the reasons why M good

important for all the reasons why M good

important for all the reasons why M good decisions and good judgments matter in

decisions and good judgments matter in

decisions and good judgments matter in our lives but let me explain why it’s

our lives but let me explain why it’s

our lives but let me explain why it’s correct and turn to the question of

correct and turn to the question of

correct and turn to the question of significance as I conclude my talk and

significance as I conclude my talk and

significance as I conclude my talk and along the way I’ll invoke three things

along the way I’ll invoke three things

along the way I’ll invoke three things an old probability machine and two

an old probability machine and two

an old probability machine and two psychological theories now psychologists

psychological theories now psychologists

psychological theories now psychologists have long established that when we face

have long established that when we face

have long established that when we face the same magnitude many times our

the same magnitude many times our

the same magnitude many times our judgments is subject to variation it’s

judgments is subject to variation it’s

judgments is subject to variation it’s kind of like when you go home from work

kind of like when you go home from work

kind of like when you go home from work and it did 30 minutes it actually takes

and it did 30 minutes it actually takes

and it did 30 minutes it actually takes sometimes feels longer and sometimes

sometimes feels longer and sometimes

sometimes feels longer and sometimes feels shorter and the probability

feels shorter and the probability

feels shorter and the probability machine I’m invoking does an excellent

machine I’m invoking does an excellent

machine I’m invoking does an excellent job in capturing this phenomenon it was

job in capturing this phenomenon it was

job in capturing this phenomenon it was invented and built by the half cousin of

invented and built by the half cousin of

invented and built by the half cousin of Charles Darwin Sir Francis Galton

Charles Darwin Sir Francis Galton

Charles Darwin Sir Francis Galton in 1873 their golden coal this machine

in 1873 their golden coal this machine

in 1873 their golden coal this machine the Queen comes but we’ll just call it

the Queen comes but we’ll just call it

the Queen comes but we’ll just call it the golden board it consists of displays

the golden board it consists of displays

the golden board it consists of displays rows of pins at the top and equally

rows of pins at the top and equally

rows of pins at the top and equally spaced their compartments at the bottom

spaced their compartments at the bottom

spaced their compartments at the bottom that serve the purpose of capturing

that serve the purpose of capturing

that serve the purpose of capturing balls have dropped into and dropped

balls have dropped into and dropped

balls have dropped into and dropped through the machine now you may think

through the machine now you may think

through the machine now you may think about the individual path of

about the individual path of

about the individual path of such a ball as a line of thought in the

such a ball as a line of thought in the

such a ball as a line of thought in the cognitive process and you may think

cognitive process and you may think

cognitive process and you may think about the particular compartment that a

about the particular compartment that a

about the particular compartment that a ball ultimately settles into as an

ball ultimately settles into as an

ball ultimately settles into as an estimate of magnitude in our case an

estimate of magnitude in our case an

estimate of magnitude in our case an estimate of weight now along the way

estimate of weight now along the way

estimate of weight now along the way this thought process is disrupted by

this thought process is disrupted by

this thought process is disrupted by random events as captured by bolts at

random events as captured by bolts at

random events as captured by bolts at head pins in the otherwise straight fall

head pins in the otherwise straight fall

head pins in the otherwise straight fall and where exactly this ball will

and where exactly this ball will

and where exactly this ball will ultimately end up and we cannot actually

ultimately end up and we cannot actually

ultimately end up and we cannot actually predict for certain but we can say

predict for certain but we can say

predict for certain but we can say something about the pattern that emerges

something about the pattern that emerges

something about the pattern that emerges when we drop many balls into the system

when we drop many balls into the system

when we drop many balls into the system one after the other and that pattern you

one after the other and that pattern you

one after the other and that pattern you might know it’s a famous bell curve but

might know it’s a famous bell curve but

might know it’s a famous bell curve but the bell curve is symmetric and skewed

the bell curve is symmetric and skewed

the bell curve is symmetric and skewed judgment distributions occur much more

judgment distributions occur much more

judgment distributions occur much more frequently than predicted by the golden

frequently than predicted by the golden

frequently than predicted by the golden board and so we must change it in some

board and so we must change it in some

board and so we must change it in some way in order to learn why that is and

way in order to learn why that is and

way in order to learn why that is and the first change that we make to the

the first change that we make to the

the first change that we make to the golden board is to combine that with

golden board is to combine that with

golden board is to combine that with what’s called adaptation level theory

what’s called adaptation level theory

what’s called adaptation level theory according to which we become used to the

according to which we become used to the

according to which we become used to the typical magnitudes of our experience and

typical magnitudes of our experience and

typical magnitudes of our experience and presume these magnitudes as we then

presume these magnitudes as we then

presume these magnitudes as we then confront new items in our case we become

confront new items in our case we become

confront new items in our case we become used to the typical weight of a bunch of

used to the typical weight of a bunch of

used to the typical weight of a bunch of grapes from our shopping experience in

grapes from our shopping experience in

grapes from our shopping experience in the setting of the the Queen conquers

the setting of the the Queen conquers

the setting of the the Queen conquers are the golden board this implies that

are the golden board this implies that

are the golden board this implies that the ball begins its journey and starting

the ball begins its journey and starting

the ball begins its journey and starting at a magnitude that is typical in our

at a magnitude that is typical in our

at a magnitude that is typical in our case let’s assume that’s 500 grams but

case let’s assume that’s 500 grams but

case let’s assume that’s 500 grams but of course it’s often important

of course it’s often important

of course it’s often important differences between the particular and

differences between the particular and

differences between the particular and the typical and the second change that

the typical and the second change that

the typical and the second change that we make to the golden board is to assume

we make to the golden board is to assume

we make to the golden board is to assume that people will try to account for

that people will try to account for

that people will try to account for these differences and do so according to

these differences and do so according to

these differences and do so according to what’s called sequential sampling theory

what’s called sequential sampling theory

what’s called sequential sampling theory now the basic idea here is that what we

now the basic idea here is that what we

now the basic idea here is that what we judge has features and these features

judge has features and these features

judge has features and these features contain information and this information

contain information and this information

contain information and this information is consistent with one of two hypotheses

is consistent with one of two hypotheses

is consistent with one of two hypotheses that relate to the typical value in our

that relate to the typical value in our

that relate to the typical value in our case heavier than typical or lighter

case heavier than typical or lighter

case heavier than typical or lighter than typical for example a bunch of

than typical for example a bunch of

than typical for example a bunch of grapes can have particularly plump

grapes can have particularly plump

grapes can have particularly plump fruits which would tends to suggest that

fruits which would tends to suggest that

fruits which would tends to suggest that we’re dealing with an item that’s

we’re dealing with an item that’s

we’re dealing with an item that’s heavier than typical but that same bunch

heavier than typical but that same bunch

heavier than typical but that same bunch of grapes can have particularly sparse

of grapes can have particularly sparse

of grapes can have particularly sparse fruits in places which would suggest

fruits in places which would suggest

fruits in places which would suggest suggests

suggests

suggests opposite now the these features are now

opposite now the these features are now

opposite now the these features are now captured by the rows of pins in the

captured by the rows of pins in the

captured by the rows of pins in the golden board with the probability of a

golden board with the probability of a

golden board with the probability of a ball moving in the same direction as the

ball moving in the same direction as the

ball moving in the same direction as the evidence provided by the particular

evidence provided by the particular

evidence provided by the particular feature capturing the expertise or the

feature capturing the expertise or the

feature capturing the expertise or the adeptness of the judge at the task for

adeptness of the judge at the task for

adeptness of the judge at the task for example a wine producer will be much

example a wine producer will be much

example a wine producer will be much more adept at extracting useful

more adept at extracting useful

more adept at extracting useful information from a bunch of grapes then

information from a bunch of grapes then

information from a bunch of grapes then will your typical shoppers so it’s by

will your typical shoppers so it’s by

will your typical shoppers so it’s by combining the gulten board with

combining the gulten board with

combining the gulten board with adaptation level theory and sequential

adaptation level theory and sequential

adaptation level theory and sequential sampling theory that we finally reach M

sampling theory that we finally reach M

sampling theory that we finally reach M the Augmented Queen Kong’s or the aq for

the Augmented Queen Kong’s or the aq for

the Augmented Queen Kong’s or the aq for short and the aq can tell us why skew is

short and the aq can tell us why skew is

short and the aq can tell us why skew is a cue for our collective error the aq

a cue for our collective error the aq

a cue for our collective error the aq predicts then when the percent in

predicts then when the percent in

predicts then when the percent in magnitude is typical than for the people

magnitude is typical than for the people

magnitude is typical than for the people in the crowd then these people form

in the crowd then these people form

in the crowd then these people form their average opinion of these people

their average opinion of these people

their average opinion of these people will be perfectly aligned with the truth

will be perfectly aligned with the truth

will be perfectly aligned with the truth irrespective of how they use information

irrespective of how they use information

irrespective of how they use information moreover the judgment distribution say

moreover the judgment distribution say

moreover the judgment distribution say together form will be symmetric under

together form will be symmetric under

together form will be symmetric under these circumstances the wisdom of the

these circumstances the wisdom of the

these circumstances the wisdom of the crowds is almost magic but when the

crowds is almost magic but when the

crowds is almost magic but when the percent of magnitude is in some way

percent of magnitude is in some way

percent of magnitude is in some way extreme then how we use information

extreme then how we use information

extreme then how we use information matters for both collective error and

matters for both collective error and

matters for both collective error and for skewness in actual fact it’s when we

for skewness in actual fact it’s when we

for skewness in actual fact it’s when we have some level of expertise that skewed

have some level of expertise that skewed

have some level of expertise that skewed judgment distributions are predicted to

judgment distributions are predicted to

judgment distributions are predicted to occur in the first place it’s almost

occur in the first place it’s almost

occur in the first place it’s almost like a swarm of birds where the majority

like a swarm of birds where the majority

like a swarm of birds where the majority head towards one clear direction but a

head towards one clear direction but a

head towards one clear direction but a few laggards trailed behind leaving the

few laggards trailed behind leaving the

few laggards trailed behind leaving the impression of a long tail in the

impression of a long tail in the

impression of a long tail in the distribution so for example when the

distribution so for example when the

distribution so for example when the presented magnitude is smaller than

presented magnitude is smaller than

presented magnitude is smaller than typical then these swarm not of birds

typical then these swarm not of birds

typical then these swarm not of birds but of judgments head towards small

but of judgments head towards small

but of judgments head towards small values whereas it heads towards large

values whereas it heads towards large

values whereas it heads towards large values when the percent of magnitude is

values when the percent of magnitude is

values when the percent of magnitude is is larger as in the case of the

is larger as in the case of the

is larger as in the case of the greengrocers store and you might think

greengrocers store and you might think

greengrocers store and you might think that well that’s all well and good but

that well that’s all well and good but

that well that’s all well and good but in both cases the average is dragged

in both cases the average is dragged

in both cases the average is dragged down by the tail end of this

down by the tail end of this

down by the tail end of this distribution in an unfortunate way and

distribution in an unfortunate way and

distribution in an unfortunate way and because skewness well and that brings me

because skewness well and that brings me

because skewness well and that brings me to the final most important point of my

to the final most important point of my

to the final most important point of my talk namely that the deviation between

talk namely that the deviation between

talk namely that the deviation between truth and the average opinion

truth and the average opinion

truth and the average opinion systematically varies with this

systematically varies with this

systematically varies with this observable skewness and that’s because

observable skewness and that’s because

observable skewness and that’s because it’s observable that we can simply say

it’s observable that we can simply say

it’s observable that we can simply say that skew is a cue for our collective

that skew is a cue for our collective

that skew is a cue for our collective error now you might think measuring the

error now you might think measuring the

error now you might think measuring the weight of a bunch of grapes is using the

weight of a bunch of grapes is using the

weight of a bunch of grapes is using the collective minds of shoppers is a simple

collective minds of shoppers is a simple

collective minds of shoppers is a simple and perhaps impractical example but

and perhaps impractical example but

and perhaps impractical example but looking more broadly using modern

looking more broadly using modern

looking more broadly using modern information technology we can now hope

information technology we can now hope

information technology we can now hope to harness the wisdom of crowds much

to harness the wisdom of crowds much

to harness the wisdom of crowds much more efficiently than we have previously

more efficiently than we have previously

more efficiently than we have previously done now that we know that skew is a cue

done now that we know that skew is a cue

done now that we know that skew is a cue for error

for error

for error indeed doctors managers and even

indeed doctors managers and even

indeed doctors managers and even politicians who care about the facts who

politicians who care about the facts who

politicians who care about the facts who do look do well to look at the entire

do look do well to look at the entire

do look do well to look at the entire distribution judgments because they

distribution judgments because they

distribution judgments because they might just save their patients and them

might just save their patients and them

might just save their patients and them a higher profit or increase the welfare

a higher profit or increase the welfare

a higher profit or increase the welfare of citizens by bringing these important

of citizens by bringing these important

of citizens by bringing these important decision-makers closer to the truth so

decision-makers closer to the truth so

decision-makers closer to the truth so it doesn’t matter if you are buying a

it doesn’t matter if you are buying a

it doesn’t matter if you are buying a bunch of grave so if you’re running a

bunch of grave so if you’re running a

bunch of grave so if you’re running a country if you want to know the truth

country if you want to know the truth

country if you want to know the truth then skew is your cue

then skew is your cue

then skew is your cue [Applause]

[Applause]

[Applause] [Music]

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