[Music] I started my my professional life in
I started my my professional life in
I started my my professional life in there as a researcher in Japan and but
there as a researcher in Japan and but
there as a researcher in Japan and but very quickly I got into the financial
very quickly I got into the financial
very quickly I got into the financial industry and I’ve been managing
industry and I’ve been managing
industry and I’ve been managing technology ever since and today that is
technology ever since and today that is
technology ever since and today that is known as FinTech but that is what I’m
known as FinTech but that is what I’m
known as FinTech but that is what I’m not going to talk about today I’m going
not going to talk about today I’m going
not going to talk about today I’m going to talk about an event that really
to talk about an event that really
to talk about an event that really changed my life and gave me tremendous
changed my life and gave me tremendous
changed my life and gave me tremendous amount of learning and today I want to
amount of learning and today I want to
amount of learning and today I want to share some of that learning with you but
share some of that learning with you but
share some of that learning with you but I also want to share that in the context
I also want to share that in the context
I also want to share that in the context of Japan because I think that some of
of Japan because I think that some of
of Japan because I think that some of these learnings I went through extremely
these learnings I went through extremely
these learnings I went through extremely useful outside of the context of what
useful outside of the context of what
useful outside of the context of what I’ve been doing for the last five years
I’ve been doing for the last five years
I’ve been doing for the last five years so today I want to talk about the seven
so today I want to talk about the seven
so today I want to talk about the seven lucky God’s of safecast and in order to
lucky God’s of safecast and in order to
lucky God’s of safecast and in order to talk about the seven local gods of
talk about the seven local gods of
talk about the seven local gods of safecast the first I’ll have to explain
safecast the first I’ll have to explain
safecast the first I’ll have to explain to you what is safe cause well safecast
to you what is safe cause well safecast
to you what is safe cause well safecast started more than five years ago when
started more than five years ago when
started more than five years ago when the big Tohoku earthquake hit Japan at
the big Tohoku earthquake hit Japan at
the big Tohoku earthquake hit Japan at that time I was in Tokyo and my wife is
that time I was in Tokyo and my wife is
that time I was in Tokyo and my wife is from Ishinomaki in Miyagi Prefecture and
from Ishinomaki in Miyagi Prefecture and
from Ishinomaki in Miyagi Prefecture and we were obviously immediately very
we were obviously immediately very
we were obviously immediately very concerned what was happening with our
concerned what was happening with our
concerned what was happening with our dear and loved ones and the next day
dear and loved ones and the next day
dear and loved ones and the next day after the earthquake when we were
after the earthquake when we were
after the earthquake when we were thinking about what can we do how can we
thinking about what can we do how can we
thinking about what can we do how can we help her family the Fukushima Daiichi
help her family the Fukushima Daiichi
help her family the Fukushima Daiichi disaster happened and Fukushima is in
disaster happened and Fukushima is in
disaster happened and Fukushima is in between Tokyo and Ishinomaki so it
between Tokyo and Ishinomaki so it
between Tokyo and Ishinomaki so it became my immediate focal point as it
became my immediate focal point as it
became my immediate focal point as it off structured me from doing something
off structured me from doing something
off structured me from doing something useful I decided to do something about
useful I decided to do something about
useful I decided to do something about Fukushima Daiichi problem and what was
Fukushima Daiichi problem and what was
Fukushima Daiichi problem and what was the problem the problem that happened
the problem the problem that happened
the problem the problem that happened was as we you all know it the actual
was as we you all know it the actual
was as we you all know it the actual accident and what what happened but the
accident and what what happened but the
accident and what what happened but the real problem for me personally was what
real problem for me personally was what
real problem for me personally was what is going to happen to our lives I had a
is going to happen to our lives I had a
is going to happen to our lives I had a family of a family a young daughter what
family of a family a young daughter what
family of a family a young daughter what do I do
do I do
do I do and in order to make a decision you need
and in order to make a decision you need
and in order to make a decision you need data you need to know what is happening
data you need to know what is happening
data you need to know what is happening and this is from NHK news in April 2011
and this is from NHK news in April 2011
and this is from NHK news in April 2011 telling us what the radiation levels are
telling us what the radiation levels are
telling us what the radiation levels are in Japan I’m not going to comment too
in Japan I’m not going to comment too
in Japan I’m not going to comment too much on
much on
much on what they mean but the only comment area
what they mean but the only comment area
what they mean but the only comment area will make is if you look carefully there
will make is if you look carefully there
will make is if you look carefully there is no measurement for fukushima nothing
is no measurement for fukushima nothing
is no measurement for fukushima nothing and that’s why the accident is and the
and that’s why the accident is and the
and that’s why the accident is and the rest of the data didn’t mean anything to
rest of the data didn’t mean anything to
rest of the data didn’t mean anything to me and he said what you know what is
me and he said what you know what is
me and he said what you know what is happening should I move away should i
happening should I move away should i
happening should I move away should i what should I do
what should I do
what should I do so the real problem was no data no data
so the real problem was no data no data
so the real problem was no data no data means that you can’t make a logical
means that you can’t make a logical
means that you can’t make a logical decision you can panic you can make a
decision you can panic you can make a
decision you can panic you can make a wrong decision you you don’t know what
wrong decision you you don’t know what
wrong decision you you don’t know what needs to be done so we you know some of
needs to be done so we you know some of
needs to be done so we you know some of my people are friends one of them is joi
my people are friends one of them is joi
my people are friends one of them is joi Ito and some of you may know and
Ito and some of you may know and
Ito and some of you may know and unfriend Shawn Bonner we basically got
unfriend Shawn Bonner we basically got
unfriend Shawn Bonner we basically got on a Skype conversation and we started
on a Skype conversation and we started
on a Skype conversation and we started to talk about what do we do and first
to talk about what do we do and first
to talk about what do we do and first thing we did is we looked around for
thing we did is we looked around for
thing we did is we looked around for data on the internet maybe we could
data on the internet maybe we could
data on the internet maybe we could share that we didn’t find any day that
share that we didn’t find any day that
share that we didn’t find any day that it was useful so we gave up on that
it was useful so we gave up on that
it was useful so we gave up on that earlier and the next idea we had this is
earlier and the next idea we had this is
earlier and the next idea we had this is okay let’s do crowdsourcing let’s buy
okay let’s do crowdsourcing let’s buy
okay let’s do crowdsourcing let’s buy lots of geiger counters give them to
lots of geiger counters give them to
lots of geiger counters give them to lots of people have them collect the
lots of people have them collect the
lots of people have them collect the data and then we’ll take that data and
data and then we’ll take that data and
data and then we’ll take that data and we’ll and we’ll tell everybody what is
we’ll and we’ll tell everybody what is
we’ll and we’ll tell everybody what is happening that was a great idea except
happening that was a great idea except
happening that was a great idea except that there were no geiger counters after
that there were no geiger counters after
that there were no geiger counters after 24 hours all the Geiger counters in the
24 hours all the Geiger counters in the
24 hours all the Geiger counters in the world sold out and almost nowhere we
world sold out and almost nowhere we
world sold out and almost nowhere we could get all the hundreds of Geiger
could get all the hundreds of Geiger
could get all the hundreds of Geiger counters that we needed for the plant so
counters that we needed for the plant so
counters that we needed for the plant so oh my god what do we do and the key
oh my god what do we do and the key
oh my god what do we do and the key thing is as time is ticking okay please
thing is as time is ticking okay please
thing is as time is ticking okay please understand this is all happening in the
understand this is all happening in the
understand this is all happening in the first days after the accident we have to
first days after the accident we have to
first days after the accident we have to make a decision what do we do or what’s
make a decision what do we do or what’s
make a decision what do we do or what’s going to happen to our life so there was
going to happen to our life so there was
going to happen to our life so there was not much time so what happened was is
not much time so what happened was is
not much time so what happened was is that Joey Shan we all started to call
that Joey Shan we all started to call
that Joey Shan we all started to call our friends and people we knew to see
our friends and people we knew to see
our friends and people we knew to see can we put as many people as possible on
can we put as many people as possible on
can we put as many people as possible on this problem how do we measure the
this problem how do we measure the
this problem how do we measure the radiation if we don’t have an F Geiger
radiation if we don’t have an F Geiger
radiation if we don’t have an F Geiger counters so we had a 24 hour continuous
counters so we had a 24 hour continuous
counters so we had a 24 hour continuous Skype call and we decided to do
Skype call and we decided to do
Skype call and we decided to do something we said whatever it is we’re
something we said whatever it is we’re
something we said whatever it is we’re gonna do something and what happened was
gonna do something and what happened was
gonna do something and what happened was is we got duct tape duct tape is always
is we got duct tape duct tape is always
is we got duct tape duct tape is always good to do something and what did we do
good to do something and what did we do
good to do something and what did we do with this duct tape what we did is is we
with this duct tape what we did is is we
with this duct tape what we did is is we had a few geiger counters that were
had a few geiger counters that were
had a few geiger counters that were donated to us we have maybe two three
donated to us we have maybe two three
donated to us we have maybe two three geiger counters at that time and you
geiger counters at that time and you
geiger counters at that time and you know with two three Geiger counters how
know with two three Geiger counters how
know with two three Geiger counters how can you measure you know in Japan
can you measure you know in Japan
can you measure you know in Japan there’s 1.2 million kilometres of road
there’s 1.2 million kilometres of road
there’s 1.2 million kilometres of road to be measured so what we did is we said
to be measured so what we did is we said
to be measured so what we did is we said okay
okay
okay we’ll take a Geiger counter we take the
we’ll take a Geiger counter we take the
we’ll take a Geiger counter we take the Geiger counter on the outside of a car
Geiger counter on the outside of a car
Geiger counter on the outside of a car window and we find a volunteer and this
window and we find a volunteer and this
window and we find a volunteer and this is a person that was a volunteer he was
is a person that was a volunteer he was
is a person that was a volunteer he was driving up trucks with food for Second
driving up trucks with food for Second
driving up trucks with food for Second Harvest to Kesennuma and I asked him can
Harvest to Kesennuma and I asked him can
Harvest to Kesennuma and I asked him can you take the Geiger counter and take
you take the Geiger counter and take
you take the Geiger counter and take your iPhone and take pictures of the of
your iPhone and take pictures of the of
your iPhone and take pictures of the of the Geiger counter as you’re driving
the Geiger counter as you’re driving
the Geiger counter as you’re driving upwards
upwards
upwards yeah the iPhone will keep a location
yeah the iPhone will keep a location
yeah the iPhone will keep a location through GPS so we get an idea what
through GPS so we get an idea what
through GPS so we get an idea what levels are where and it worked so this
levels are where and it worked so this
levels are where and it worked so this was the first kind of radiation map we
was the first kind of radiation map we
was the first kind of radiation map we got there’s no values on it but you
got there’s no values on it but you
got there’s no values on it but you could click on this thing and you could
could click on this thing and you could
could click on this thing and you could see the picture of the Geiger counter
see the picture of the Geiger counter
see the picture of the Geiger counter and it will tell you what it was and we
and it will tell you what it was and we
and it will tell you what it was and we merely knew that in Fukushima Prefecture
merely knew that in Fukushima Prefecture
merely knew that in Fukushima Prefecture the levels were way way higher than they
the levels were way way higher than they
the levels were way way higher than they were in Tokyo so we knew of the kind of
were in Tokyo so we knew of the kind of
were in Tokyo so we knew of the kind of where that you know that we had a
where that you know that we had a
where that you know that we had a mission to do there was something to be
mission to do there was something to be
mission to do there was something to be measured so of course we had by the time
measured so of course we had by the time
measured so of course we had by the time we had lots of smart people in the room
we had lots of smart people in the room
we had lots of smart people in the room and the idea was can we can be out to
and the idea was can we can be out to
and the idea was can we can be out to make this thing so we did is we took a
make this thing so we did is we took a
make this thing so we did is we took a computer we put the Geiger counter in a
computer we put the Geiger counter in a
computer we put the Geiger counter in a waterproof box and I was a USB cable and
waterproof box and I was a USB cable and
waterproof box and I was a USB cable and we put a program on it so that every
we put a program on it so that every
we put a program on it so that every five seconds what you know what Dave Cal
five seconds what you know what Dave Cal
five seconds what you know what Dave Cal was doing with the truck he we could do
was doing with the truck he we could do
was doing with the truck he we could do this every five seconds automatically
this every five seconds automatically
this every five seconds automatically and we put it on on a car and then
and we put it on on a car and then
and we put it on on a car and then myself and and you know heroic friends
myself and and you know heroic friends
myself and and you know heroic friends we all drove up to Fukushima and we
we all drove up to Fukushima and we
we all drove up to Fukushima and we started to measure and it worked you
started to measure and it worked you
started to measure and it worked you know we built this thing literally in
know we built this thing literally in
know we built this thing literally in one week’s time nobody had any
one week’s time nobody had any
one week’s time nobody had any experience building this before but we
experience building this before but we
experience building this before but we had tremendous amount of focus because
had tremendous amount of focus because
had tremendous amount of focus because time was ticking
time was ticking
time was ticking initially we drove up our cells from
initially we drove up our cells from
initially we drove up our cells from Tokyo up to Fukushima with it many times
Tokyo up to Fukushima with it many times
Tokyo up to Fukushima with it many times but it was not very we were never gonna
but it was not very we were never gonna
but it was not very we were never gonna reach our goal so what we did is is we
reach our goal so what we did is is we
reach our goal so what we did is is we removed the computer and we put
removed the computer and we put
removed the computer and we put everything on a small little Arduino
everything on a small little Arduino
everything on a small little Arduino computer board so we can put it all in
computer board so we can put it all in
computer board so we can put it all in the same case and then we could idea was
the same case and then we could idea was
the same case and then we could idea was let’s give it away to people in
let’s give it away to people in
let’s give it away to people in Fukushima that won’t do the same thing
Fukushima that won’t do the same thing
Fukushima that won’t do the same thing and that worked really well we already
and that worked really well we already
and that worked really well we already have build up quite a network by that
have build up quite a network by that
have build up quite a network by that time and we were able to find people
time and we were able to find people
time and we were able to find people this is Brett Waterman in a wacky City
this is Brett Waterman in a wacky City
this is Brett Waterman in a wacky City this is his very cute little car and
this is his very cute little car and
this is his very cute little car and together with a friend yamadera son they
together with a friend yamadera son they
together with a friend yamadera son they teamed up and they started to measure a
teamed up and they started to measure a
teamed up and they started to measure a wacky City as the first volunteers
wacky City as the first volunteers
wacky City as the first volunteers outside of the team that we
outside of the team that we
outside of the team that we build up and they were very meticulous
build up and they were very meticulous
build up and they were very meticulous and he started to measure every single
and he started to measure every single
and he started to measure every single street everything anything they wanted
street everything anything they wanted
street everything anything they wanted to measure they started to measure it
to measure they started to measure it
to measure they started to measure it that went very well we built many of
that went very well we built many of
that went very well we built many of those what we call big II’s and stands
those what we call big II’s and stands
those what we call big II’s and stands for bento Geiger counter system because
for bento Geiger counter system because
for bento Geiger counter system because it looked a little bit like Japanese
it looked a little bit like Japanese
it looked a little bit like Japanese bento box we build many of those big
bento box we build many of those big
bento box we build many of those big ideas by hand but somewhere midway
ideas by hand but somewhere midway
ideas by hand but somewhere midway through we realized that it cost lots of
through we realized that it cost lots of
through we realized that it cost lots of money because lots of time can we have
money because lots of time can we have
money because lots of time can we have everybody build these big IDs themselves
everybody build these big IDs themselves
everybody build these big IDs themselves so what we did is is we made a kit so we
so what we did is is we made a kit so we
so what we did is is we made a kit so we we documented how to make one we made it
we documented how to make one we made it
we documented how to make one we made it a little bit more convenient to build
a little bit more convenient to build
a little bit more convenient to build and to hold and this is the big idea no
and to hold and this is the big idea no
and to hold and this is the big idea no no that came out this K was done about
no that came out this K was done about
no that came out this K was done about four years ago and went through lots of
four years ago and went through lots of
four years ago and went through lots of iterations but this is what we currently
iterations but this is what we currently
iterations but this is what we currently use I want actually pass these along
use I want actually pass these along
use I want actually pass these along this is not a clock it’s not a bomb it’s
this is not a clock it’s not a bomb it’s
this is not a clock it’s not a bomb it’s a Geiger counter so please pass it along
a Geiger counter so please pass it along
a Geiger counter so please pass it along so we started to make kids people
so we started to make kids people
so we started to make kids people started to we did workshops people start
started to we did workshops people start
started to we did workshops people start buying their parts for the kids they
buying their parts for the kids they
buying their parts for the kids they start building the big IDs themselves
start building the big IDs themselves
start building the big IDs themselves and this is actually a workshop we did
and this is actually a workshop we did
and this is actually a workshop we did here in ice Japan with junior Madeira
here in ice Japan with junior Madeira
here in ice Japan with junior Madeira help these are volunteers in Fukushima
help these are volunteers in Fukushima
help these are volunteers in Fukushima Prefecture building their own big ugly
Prefecture building their own big ugly
Prefecture building their own big ugly systems and we did many of these
systems and we did many of these
systems and we did many of these workshops and through that we got many
workshops and through that we got many
workshops and through that we got many many more people to measure and this is
many more people to measure and this is
many more people to measure and this is the map of Japan and you see this kind
the map of Japan and you see this kind
the map of Japan and you see this kind of bluing is he colors in the middle we
of bluing is he colors in the middle we
of bluing is he colors in the middle we basically finished our goal of measuring
basically finished our goal of measuring
basically finished our goal of measuring every single Street in Japan and we did
every single Street in Japan and we did
every single Street in Japan and we did that because people far away and near
that because people far away and near
that because people far away and near Fukushima diol didn’t know what was
Fukushima diol didn’t know what was
Fukushima diol didn’t know what was happening
happening
happening the Japanese government only measured
the Japanese government only measured
the Japanese government only measured inside the exclusion zone they did very
inside the exclusion zone they did very
inside the exclusion zone they did very limited measurements outside in
limited measurements outside in
limited measurements outside in Fukushima and nothing beyond Fukushima
Fukushima and nothing beyond Fukushima
Fukushima and nothing beyond Fukushima Prefecture but we have people all the
Prefecture but we have people all the
Prefecture but we have people all the way beyond Tokyo beyond issuing a
way beyond Tokyo beyond issuing a
way beyond Tokyo beyond issuing a marquee worried about it so we said we
marquee worried about it so we said we
marquee worried about it so we said we measure everything and all the
measure everything and all the
measure everything and all the volunteers of safeguards together it
volunteers of safeguards together it
volunteers of safeguards together it became a movement in other words they
became a movement in other words they
became a movement in other words they all teamed up to do this and today you
all teamed up to do this and today you
all teamed up to do this and today you can download an app on your iPhone for
can download an app on your iPhone for
can download an app on your iPhone for free and you can wherever you are in
free and you can wherever you are in
free and you can wherever you are in Japan you will see the level of
Japan you will see the level of
Japan you will see the level of radiation that safe consents measure
radiation that safe consents measure
radiation that safe consents measure their 54 million
their 54 million
their 54 million measurements in Japan and also worldwide
measurements in Japan and also worldwide
measurements in Japan and also worldwide and what I want to do today is is I want
and what I want to do today is is I want
and what I want to do today is is I want to talk a little bit about
to talk a little bit about
to talk a little bit about did we do that and what were our key
did we do that and what were our key
did we do that and what were our key learnings and I picked up a few things
learnings and I picked up a few things
learnings and I picked up a few things that I think are very useful if you want
that I think are very useful if you want
that I think are very useful if you want to do something similar and what are the
to do something similar and what are the
to do something similar and what are the unique things that that we that we did
unique things that that we that we did
unique things that that we that we did and also the things that didn’t work we
and also the things that didn’t work we
and also the things that didn’t work we made lots of mistakes we tried lots of
made lots of mistakes we tried lots of
made lots of mistakes we tried lots of things that need to work out I only
things that need to work out I only
things that need to work out I only talked about what worked so I want to
talked about what worked so I want to
talked about what worked so I want to share a little bit about you what is the
share a little bit about you what is the
share a little bit about you what is the learning from all of this and in order
learning from all of this and in order
learning from all of this and in order to do that I thought it would be nice to
to do that I thought it would be nice to
to do that I thought it would be nice to involve a little bit of the Japanese
involve a little bit of the Japanese
involve a little bit of the Japanese several lucky gods and each of them you
several lucky gods and each of them you
several lucky gods and each of them you know plays a key role in how safecast
know plays a key role in how safecast
know plays a key role in how safecast came to be and how we still after five
came to be and how we still after five
came to be and how we still after five years going very strong the most
years going very strong the most
years going very strong the most important God is the God of data we are
important God is the God of data we are
important God is the God of data we are an organization that claims to be Pro
an organization that claims to be Pro
an organization that claims to be Pro data and what does that mean
data and what does that mean
data and what does that mean that means that we focus as data is our
that means that we focus as data is our
that means that we focus as data is our only sole goal so safecast we started as
only sole goal so safecast we started as
only sole goal so safecast we started as a reaction to to the Fukushima Daiichi
a reaction to to the Fukushima Daiichi
a reaction to to the Fukushima Daiichi problem but we from day one we were very
problem but we from day one we were very
problem but we from day one we were very clear that this is all about data data
clear that this is all about data data
clear that this is all about data data is the common language when we want to
is the common language when we want to
is the common language when we want to talk about the environment without data
talk about the environment without data
talk about the environment without data it is bias it is politics it is for
it is bias it is politics it is for
it is bias it is politics it is for citizens very hard to understand what is
citizens very hard to understand what is
citizens very hard to understand what is really happening is it really bad is it
really happening is it really bad is it
really happening is it really bad is it really good we don’t know so data
really good we don’t know so data
really good we don’t know so data creates a baseline it is also the right
creates a baseline it is also the right
creates a baseline it is also the right to know we as citizens want to know what
to know we as citizens want to know what
to know we as citizens want to know what is happening it’s not government’s
is happening it’s not government’s
is happening it’s not government’s obligation to keep us from the data it’s
obligation to keep us from the data it’s
obligation to keep us from the data it’s doubly ation to know what what is
doubly ation to know what what is
doubly ation to know what what is happening data also removes bias facts
happening data also removes bias facts
happening data also removes bias facts and figures is how science is done data
and figures is how science is done data
and figures is how science is done data also creates action once you know what
also creates action once you know what
also creates action once you know what the reality is
the reality is
the reality is you can do the right thing and to
you can do the right thing and to
you can do the right thing and to illustrate the importance of that I want
illustrate the importance of that I want
illustrate the importance of that I want to show a very well-known chart for some
to show a very well-known chart for some
to show a very well-known chart for some of you or from Fukushima Prefecture you
of you or from Fukushima Prefecture you
of you or from Fukushima Prefecture you probably may not even wanna see this
probably may not even wanna see this
probably may not even wanna see this anymore but what happened was a shortly
anymore but what happened was a shortly
anymore but what happened was a shortly after the accident the government
after the accident the government
after the accident the government pronounced a 20 kilometer exclusion zone
pronounced a 20 kilometer exclusion zone
pronounced a 20 kilometer exclusion zone and people were evacuated from there
and people were evacuated from there
and people were evacuated from there after we measured ourselves and we
after we measured ourselves and we
after we measured ourselves and we started to measure every where it became
started to measure every where it became
started to measure every where it became very clear that the 20 kilometer had no
very clear that the 20 kilometer had no
very clear that the 20 kilometer had no real relationship between the areas that
real relationship between the areas that
real relationship between the areas that were affected by default and this is the
were affected by default and this is the
were affected by default and this is the redrawn evacuation zone we where you can
redrawn evacuation zone we where you can
redrawn evacuation zone we where you can see that it stretches all the way to eat
see that it stretches all the way to eat
see that it stretches all the way to eat at a village etc
at a village etc
at a village etc the reality of this is is where if we
the reality of this is is where if we
the reality of this is is where if we had known all of this when the accident
had known all of this when the accident
had known all of this when the accident was happening if we had the technology
was happening if we had the technology
was happening if we had the technology in place to measure that right away
in place to measure that right away
in place to measure that right away the evacuation wouldn’t be very
the evacuation wouldn’t be very
the evacuation wouldn’t be very different people that were evacuated in
different people that were evacuated in
different people that were evacuated in areas that were not affected would not
areas that were not affected would not
areas that were not affected would not have to be evacuated people that were
have to be evacuated people that were
have to be evacuated people that were evacuated from areas that were
evacuated from areas that were
evacuated from areas that were relatively low were actually evacuated
relatively low were actually evacuated
relatively low were actually evacuated to areas that were higher people that
to areas that were higher people that
to areas that were higher people that were in areas that were high were not
were in areas that were high were not
were in areas that were high were not evacuated so the importance of data five
evacuated so the importance of data five
evacuated so the importance of data five years ago if we would have the data the
years ago if we would have the data the
years ago if we would have the data the whole thing would have been very very
whole thing would have been very very
whole thing would have been very very different but if you will say okay
different but if you will say okay
different but if you will say okay that’s five years ago what about today
that’s five years ago what about today
that’s five years ago what about today this is an article this is about a house
this is an article this is about a house
this is an article this is about a house that was built on top of a nuclear waste
that was built on top of a nuclear waste
that was built on top of a nuclear waste place where people had used
place where people had used
place where people had used decontamination they brought stuff in to
decontamination they brought stuff in to
decontamination they brought stuff in to a location they didn’t know it was
a location they didn’t know it was
a location they didn’t know it was stored there anymore and they built the
stored there anymore and they built the
stored there anymore and they built the house on top of it so even today after
house on top of it so even today after
house on top of it so even today after five years we’re still struggling with
five years we’re still struggling with
five years we’re still struggling with how do we know what happened and that
how do we know what happened and that
how do we know what happened and that brings me to the second god the second
brings me to the second god the second
brings me to the second god the second God is the god of always open always
God is the god of always open always
God is the god of always open always open if we have data it is worth nothing
open if we have data it is worth nothing
open if we have data it is worth nothing unless we publish it so whatever we do
unless we publish it so whatever we do
unless we publish it so whatever we do we make it open this is a very powerful
we make it open this is a very powerful
we make it open this is a very powerful concept and if you think about open what
concept and if you think about open what
concept and if you think about open what what does it mean for safecast well what
what does it mean for safecast well what
what does it mean for safecast well what we did is we say whatever we do we
we did is we say whatever we do we
we did is we say whatever we do we publish it whatever we make whatever we
publish it whatever we make whatever we
publish it whatever we make whatever we think it is always open so it’s a very
think it is always open so it’s a very
think it is always open so it’s a very open project sometimes it’s very scary
open project sometimes it’s very scary
open project sometimes it’s very scary to be open because you know you will say
to be open because you know you will say
to be open because you know you will say something everybody will know about it
something everybody will know about it
something everybody will know about it we have discussion groups and all these
we have discussion groups and all these
we have discussion groups and all these things whatever we do in the
things whatever we do in the
things whatever we do in the organization it is public what we also
organization it is public what we also
organization it is public what we also did is this you know we had the data and
did is this you know we had the data and
did is this you know we had the data and we use new mechanisms to publish the
we use new mechanisms to publish the
we use new mechanisms to publish the data and these mechanisms are very
data and these mechanisms are very
data and these mechanisms are very useful you may know there is copyright
useful you may know there is copyright
useful you may know there is copyright copyright is very restrictive it doesn’t
copyright is very restrictive it doesn’t
copyright is very restrictive it doesn’t allow you to say what you can or cannot
allow you to say what you can or cannot
allow you to say what you can or cannot do we use Creative Commons frameworks to
do we use Creative Commons frameworks to
do we use Creative Commons frameworks to control the data the data is focused on
control the data the data is focused on
control the data the data is focused on what’s called Creative Commons 0 which
what’s called Creative Commons 0 which
what’s called Creative Commons 0 which is same as public domain anybody can
is same as public domain anybody can
is same as public domain anybody can download their data you don’t have to
download their data you don’t have to
download their data you don’t have to give any attribution to save costs you
give any attribution to save costs you
give any attribution to save costs you can do anything you like with the data
can do anything you like with the data
can do anything you like with the data commercial non-commercial artists
commercial non-commercial artists
commercial non-commercial artists whatever you can do something with the
whatever you can do something with the
whatever you can do something with the data this is very fundamental thing and
data this is very fundamental thing and
data this is very fundamental thing and that’s why when we were looking at the
that’s why when we were looking at the
that’s why when we were looking at the guy dancing on there on the field I
guy dancing on there on the field I
guy dancing on there on the field I think this is the equivalent of that if
think this is the equivalent of that if
think this is the equivalent of that if you make data open more and more people
you make data open more and more people
you make data open more and more people will come and once more people come or
will come and once more people come or
will come and once more people come or more people come we also use attribution
more people come we also use attribution
more people come we also use attribution licenses and we use BSD and MIT
licenses and we use BSD and MIT
licenses and we use BSD and MIT census for hardware and software all our
census for hardware and software all our
census for hardware and software all our hardware and software we make is open
hardware and software we make is open
hardware and software we make is open people can copy it you can do anything
people can copy it you can do anything
people can copy it you can do anything like with it long as you attribute to it
like with it long as you attribute to it
like with it long as you attribute to it so this is a very powerful way to create
so this is a very powerful way to create
so this is a very powerful way to create communities and to create involvement
communities and to create involvement
communities and to create involvement because you don’t allow people to come
because you don’t allow people to come
because you don’t allow people to come in it’s also great because people come
in it’s also great because people come
in it’s also great because people come in and see what you have done it all
in and see what you have done it all
in and see what you have done it all they’ll make it better
they’ll make it better
they’ll make it better it was the oh wow there’s a bug here can
it was the oh wow there’s a bug here can
it was the oh wow there’s a bug here can I fix this I can you do that very
I fix this I can you do that very
I fix this I can you do that very powerful thing the third chord is the go
powerful thing the third chord is the go
powerful thing the third chord is the go to deploy or die and this is not about
to deploy or die and this is not about
to deploy or die and this is not about suicide this is about philosophy and I
suicide this is about philosophy and I
suicide this is about philosophy and I think we we already had in a few of the
think we we already had in a few of the
think we we already had in a few of the talks today the same thing came came out
talks today the same thing came came out
talks today the same thing came came out this is about doing before thinking this
this is about doing before thinking this
this is about doing before thinking this is a very important concept this is
is a very important concept this is
is a very important concept this is about getting things done so when we
about getting things done so when we
about getting things done so when we were putting the Geiger counters on the
were putting the Geiger counters on the
were putting the Geiger counters on the cars we had no clue what we were doing
cars we had no clue what we were doing
cars we had no clue what we were doing we were very passionate about it we knew
we were very passionate about it we knew
we were very passionate about it we knew we had limited time and we thought this
we had limited time and we thought this
we had limited time and we thought this may work but we didn’t think beyond that
may work but we didn’t think beyond that
may work but we didn’t think beyond that we first build it we put it on the car
we first build it we put it on the car
we first build it we put it on the car we drove around anyway so it doesn’t
we drove around anyway so it doesn’t
we drove around anyway so it doesn’t work or this in not work so this
work or this in not work so this
work or this in not work so this philosophy is the most important idea
philosophy is the most important idea
philosophy is the most important idea behind innovation joey tow who is our
behind innovation joey tow who is our
behind innovation joey tow who is our co-founder but also where it works at
co-founder but also where it works at
co-founder but also where it works at MIT Media Lab mr. director he made a
MIT Media Lab mr. director he made a
MIT Media Lab mr. director he made a very profound statement a couple of
very profound statement a couple of
very profound statement a couple of years ago he said to innovate you need
years ago he said to innovate you need
years ago he said to innovate you need to reduce the cost of failure what does
to reduce the cost of failure what does
to reduce the cost of failure what does that mean it means that you have to have
that mean it means that you have to have
that mean it means that you have to have lots of failure to innovate first of all
lots of failure to innovate first of all
lots of failure to innovate first of all you have to make lots of mistakes in
you have to make lots of mistakes in
you have to make lots of mistakes in Japan making mistakes is a little bit
Japan making mistakes is a little bit
Japan making mistakes is a little bit difficult to talk about but you need to
difficult to talk about but you need to
difficult to talk about but you need to get good at it and you need to do it
get good at it and you need to do it
get good at it and you need to do it fast too so you reduce the cost you fail
fast too so you reduce the cost you fail
fast too so you reduce the cost you fail a lot because from failure comes the
a lot because from failure comes the
a lot because from failure comes the inside and from the inside comes
inside and from the inside comes
inside and from the inside comes innovation and that makes things new
innovation and that makes things new
innovation and that makes things new that is where it is if you don’t fail if
that is where it is if you don’t fail if
that is where it is if you don’t fail if you’re fearful failure all these things
you’re fearful failure all these things
you’re fearful failure all these things it’s going to be very difficult to
it’s going to be very difficult to
it’s going to be very difficult to innovate I want to move on to the the
innovate I want to move on to the the
innovate I want to move on to the the the god of do-it-yourself this is a very
the god of do-it-yourself this is a very
the god of do-it-yourself this is a very interesting insight I think you have
interesting insight I think you have
interesting insight I think you have asked the big idea Geiger counter did we
asked the big idea Geiger counter did we
asked the big idea Geiger counter did we passed around and that is actually what
passed around and that is actually what
passed around and that is actually what most of the volunteers safecast
most of the volunteers safecast
most of the volunteers safecast joined they builded themselves and why
joined they builded themselves and why
joined they builded themselves and why is that so what we found out is that
is that so what we found out is that
is that so what we found out is that in the beginning we had tremendous
in the beginning we had tremendous
in the beginning we had tremendous amount of worry about radiation lots of
amount of worry about radiation lots of
amount of worry about radiation lots of people participated but as we started to
people participated but as we started to
people participated but as we started to make more big IDs and we gave them away
make more big IDs and we gave them away
make more big IDs and we gave them away for free we saw that some people would
for free we saw that some people would
for free we saw that some people would use them very well and some people would
use them very well and some people would
use them very well and some people would just never touch them if something is
just never touch them if something is
just never touch them if something is free you know if I say you know you
free you know if I say you know you
free you know if I say you know you anybody won’t have a free camera here
anybody won’t have a free camera here
anybody won’t have a free camera here everybody will raise their hand even
everybody will raise their hand even
everybody will raise their hand even though they’re not a photographer it was
though they’re not a photographer it was
though they’re not a photographer it was the same thing we started to see that
the same thing we started to see that
the same thing we started to see that all the effort and the money we had
all the effort and the money we had
all the effort and the money we had collected basically lots of that went to
collected basically lots of that went to
collected basically lots of that went to waste because people would get it but
waste because people would get it but
waste because people would get it but they wouldn’t come back so we said let’s
they wouldn’t come back so we said let’s
they wouldn’t come back so we said let’s try an experiment so what we did is we
try an experiment so what we did is we
try an experiment so what we did is we made a kit so you had to buy all the
made a kit so you had to buy all the
made a kit so you had to buy all the parts then you had to put it together
parts then you had to put it together
parts then you had to put it together and then you had to go and collect the
and then you had to go and collect the
and then you had to go and collect the data and the cost of the the kit is
data and the cost of the the kit is
data and the cost of the the kit is around five hundred dollars it’s not
around five hundred dollars it’s not
around five hundred dollars it’s not expensive but it’s also not very cheap
expensive but it’s also not very cheap
expensive but it’s also not very cheap so what it did was the people that would
so what it did was the people that would
so what it did was the people that would pay for it build it they actually were
pay for it build it they actually were
pay for it build it they actually were very passionate about using the device
very passionate about using the device
very passionate about using the device so we got very good volunteers myself
so we got very good volunteers myself
so we got very good volunteers myself selection another thing it did is it
selection another thing it did is it
selection another thing it did is it also became self funding because people
also became self funding because people
also became self funding because people would pay for it so we didn’t have to
would pay for it so we didn’t have to
would pay for it so we didn’t have to collect money to buy all the parts and
collect money to buy all the parts and
collect money to buy all the parts and we did many workshops that way we did
we did many workshops that way we did
we did many workshops that way we did anything so that is was a kind of a
anything so that is was a kind of a
anything so that is was a kind of a breakthrough in terms of thinking I
breakthrough in terms of thinking I
breakthrough in terms of thinking I think this is very useful if you want to
think this is very useful if you want to
think this is very useful if you want to start a movement and you want to use
start a movement and you want to use
start a movement and you want to use some devices it’s very expensive to
some devices it’s very expensive to
some devices it’s very expensive to manufacture devices Kickstarter is
manufacture devices Kickstarter is
manufacture devices Kickstarter is something you can do it but if you want
something you can do it but if you want
something you can do it but if you want to do small scale deployment this is a
to do small scale deployment this is a
to do small scale deployment this is a very very powerful technique and you get
very very powerful technique and you get
very very powerful technique and you get very good people three is through this
very good people three is through this
very good people three is through this trick I’m going to go to the god of pull
trick I’m going to go to the god of pull
trick I’m going to go to the god of pull over push pull of a push is a very
over push pull of a push is a very
over push pull of a push is a very important thing we learned very early on
important thing we learned very early on
important thing we learned very early on during our days when we started
during our days when we started
during our days when we started measuring in Fukushima our original plan
measuring in Fukushima our original plan
measuring in Fukushima our original plan was to go to Fukushima and drive right
was to go to Fukushima and drive right
was to go to Fukushima and drive right there ourselves and actually we had made
there ourselves and actually we had made
there ourselves and actually we had made a map of all the schools in Fukushima an
a map of all the schools in Fukushima an
a map of all the schools in Fukushima an idea was to drive from one school to the
idea was to drive from one school to the
idea was to drive from one school to the other school the logic was very simple
other school the logic was very simple
other school the logic was very simple schools on the center of the community
schools on the center of the community
schools on the center of the community and if we just do all these thousand
and if we just do all these thousand
and if we just do all these thousand schools then we have kind of covered
schools then we have kind of covered
schools then we have kind of covered quite quite a lot of ground but we have
quite quite a lot of ground but we have
quite quite a lot of ground but we have not realized that by doing so we would
not realized that by doing so we would
not realized that by doing so we would create a stigmatization around schools
create a stigmatization around schools
create a stigmatization around schools and why only schools and etc but more
and why only schools and etc but more
and why only schools and etc but more importantly we did
importantly we did
importantly we did really know where to measure you know so
really know where to measure you know so
really know where to measure you know so we were kind of trying to be tyrannic
we were kind of trying to be tyrannic
we were kind of trying to be tyrannic and say we’re gonna decide where we’re
and say we’re gonna decide where we’re
and say we’re gonna decide where we’re going to measure and we flipped that
going to measure and we flipped that
going to measure and we flipped that around and what we did is is that we’re
around and what we did is is that we’re
around and what we did is is that we’re not going to D we’re not going to decide
not going to D we’re not going to decide
not going to D we’re not going to decide where we’re going to measure we’re just
where we’re going to measure we’re just
where we’re going to measure we’re just going to have whoever wants to measure
going to have whoever wants to measure
going to have whoever wants to measure starts where they wanna measure so we
starts where they wanna measure so we
starts where they wanna measure so we turn it around and this is the power of
turn it around and this is the power of
turn it around and this is the power of pull the power of pull is is that all
pull the power of pull is is that all
pull the power of pull is is that all our volunteers do not get any
our volunteers do not get any
our volunteers do not get any instructions from anybody where to
instructions from anybody where to
instructions from anybody where to measure they measure exactly where they
measure they measure exactly where they
measure they measure exactly where they want to measure and that is where the
want to measure and that is where the
want to measure and that is where the worry is if nobody wants to measure
worry is if nobody wants to measure
worry is if nobody wants to measure there is no safe cost so that was the
there is no safe cost so that was the
there is no safe cost so that was the fundamental idea and this is very useful
fundamental idea and this is very useful
fundamental idea and this is very useful because suddenly we didn’t have to think
because suddenly we didn’t have to think
because suddenly we didn’t have to think about where to measure people would pull
about where to measure people would pull
about where to measure people would pull in the information pulling the devices
in the information pulling the devices
in the information pulling the devices and they would start measuring this is
and they would start measuring this is
and they would start measuring this is an example what I did we started in
an example what I did we started in
an example what I did we started in Japan and we now have lots of volunteers
Japan and we now have lots of volunteers
Japan and we now have lots of volunteers in Europe and us specifically we have
in Europe and us specifically we have
in Europe and us specifically we have data from over 70 countries we have
data from over 70 countries we have
data from over 70 countries we have about thousand of these big IDs in in
about thousand of these big IDs in in
about thousand of these big IDs in in the world right now measuring data every
the world right now measuring data every
the world right now measuring data every month we get about 2 million new
month we get about 2 million new
month we get about 2 million new measurements in our inner database and
measurements in our inner database and
measurements in our inner database and that speed is increasing continuously
that speed is increasing continuously
that speed is increasing continuously very powerful concept the power of pool
very powerful concept the power of pool
very powerful concept the power of pool it would never have happened if we would
it would never have happened if we would
it would never have happened if we would have tried to make the devices and give
have tried to make the devices and give
have tried to make the devices and give them away for free
them away for free
them away for free the next God is the god of anti
the next God is the god of anti
the next God is the god of anti disciplinary this is very interesting
disciplinary this is very interesting
disciplinary this is very interesting and this is something I learned from
and this is something I learned from
and this is something I learned from Joey know as a concept and it is
Joey know as a concept and it is
Joey know as a concept and it is something that doesn’t come naturally to
something that doesn’t come naturally to
something that doesn’t come naturally to most of us all of us are trained as
most of us all of us are trained as
most of us all of us are trained as professionals we are trained in one
professionals we are trained in one
professionals we are trained in one skill and we are supposed to be good at
skill and we are supposed to be good at
skill and we are supposed to be good at that the problem with that is is that if
that the problem with that is is that if
that the problem with that is is that if you want to discover something new in
you want to discover something new in
you want to discover something new in many cases you need to have multiple
many cases you need to have multiple
many cases you need to have multiple skills come together to create something
skills come together to create something
skills come together to create something unique increasingly our lives are
unique increasingly our lives are
unique increasingly our lives are complex increasingly there’s a it’s a
complex increasingly there’s a it’s a
complex increasingly there’s a it’s a measure up of different things that make
measure up of different things that make
measure up of different things that make things the mobile phone you have in your
things the mobile phone you have in your
things the mobile phone you have in your pocket is not technology it has
pocket is not technology it has
pocket is not technology it has ecosystem it has applications there’s
ecosystem it has applications there’s
ecosystem it has applications there’s lots of things around it you can’t
lots of things around it you can’t
lots of things around it you can’t create that if you are an electrical
create that if you are an electrical
create that if you are an electrical engineer or a computer engineer so what
engineer or a computer engineer so what
engineer or a computer engineer so what that means is that you know when in when
that means is that you know when in when
that means is that you know when in when we work in safe costs we have of course
we work in safe costs we have of course
we work in safe costs we have of course people that are scientifically oriented
people that are scientifically oriented
people that are scientifically oriented but we also have artists we have
but we also have artists we have
but we also have artists we have designers we have engineers so this make
designers we have engineers so this make
designers we have engineers so this make this kind of mission of
this kind of mission of
this kind of mission of skills creates unique solutions our big
skills creates unique solutions our big
skills creates unique solutions our big ideas have a very specific design they
ideas have a very specific design they
ideas have a very specific design they have colorful we have them in various
have colorful we have them in various
have colorful we have them in various colors all kind of things that an
colors all kind of things that an
colors all kind of things that an ordinary company or scientist would
ordinary company or scientist would
ordinary company or scientist would never think about but make a huge
never think about but make a huge
never think about but make a huge difference if you want to do something
difference if you want to do something
difference if you want to do something like safe cost people do care about the
like safe cost people do care about the
like safe cost people do care about the color of the big idea because the one
color of the big idea because the one
color of the big idea because the one who messes with the color of the car now
who messes with the color of the car now
who messes with the color of the car now we think about that you know but yeah
we think about that you know but yeah
we think about that you know but yeah it’s important because although I don’t
it’s important because although I don’t
it’s important because although I don’t want to drive around with you know black
want to drive around with you know black
want to drive around with you know black thing on my car my car is white so so
thing on my car my car is white so so
thing on my car my car is white so so these type of things start to melt
these type of things start to melt
these type of things start to melt together also how do you explain things
together also how do you explain things
together also how do you explain things how do you talk to people all of these
how do you talk to people all of these
how do you talk to people all of these skills are not overlapping there’s
skills are not overlapping there’s
skills are not overlapping there’s different people need to get together to
different people need to get together to
different people need to get together to make it happen
make it happen
make it happen community-centric is the last of the
community-centric is the last of the
community-centric is the last of the seven lucky God’s and it is probably the
seven lucky God’s and it is probably the
seven lucky God’s and it is probably the most important one and I want to talk
most important one and I want to talk
most important one and I want to talk about this a little bit because some of
about this a little bit because some of
about this a little bit because some of you may have heard recently about IOT
you may have heard recently about IOT
you may have heard recently about IOT the Internet of Things is coming and
the Internet of Things is coming and
the Internet of Things is coming and everybody’s busy about it and I want to
everybody’s busy about it and I want to
everybody’s busy about it and I want to talk about a little bit but I think are
talk about a little bit but I think are
talk about a little bit but I think are some of the challenges with that and
some of the challenges with that and
some of the challenges with that and what you could do to make IOT work for
what you could do to make IOT work for
what you could do to make IOT work for you and what do I mean with this
you and what do I mean with this
you and what do I mean with this sometimes when I explain the Internet of
sometimes when I explain the Internet of
sometimes when I explain the Internet of Things I say it’s the Internet of
Things I say it’s the Internet of
Things I say it’s the Internet of nothing and why do I say that the reason
nothing and why do I say that the reason
nothing and why do I say that the reason I say that is is that though we think of
I say that is is that though we think of
I say that is is that though we think of all this useful data going into the
all this useful data going into the
all this useful data going into the cloud and creating big data in many
cloud and creating big data in many
cloud and creating big data in many cases what I have seen people do is this
cases what I have seen people do is this
cases what I have seen people do is this that data doesn’t speak to you it’s like
that data doesn’t speak to you it’s like
that data doesn’t speak to you it’s like I don’t know what this means
I don’t know what this means
I don’t know what this means I mean yeah it’s big data cool but I
I mean yeah it’s big data cool but I
I mean yeah it’s big data cool but I don’t know what it means for my life so
don’t know what it means for my life so
don’t know what it means for my life so why would I care and lots of wonderful
why would I care and lots of wonderful
why would I care and lots of wonderful devices are being launched on
devices are being launched on
devices are being launched on Kickstarter campaigns companies are
Kickstarter campaigns companies are
Kickstarter campaigns companies are selling all kind of sensor technology
selling all kind of sensor technology
selling all kind of sensor technology and whatever and it’s the same problem
and whatever and it’s the same problem
and whatever and it’s the same problem it is device centric we start thinking
it is device centric we start thinking
it is device centric we start thinking with the gutte techie in Japanese the
with the gutte techie in Japanese the
with the gutte techie in Japanese the the monozukuri in Japanese we think
the monozukuri in Japanese we think
the monozukuri in Japanese we think about the device and of course the
about the device and of course the
about the device and of course the device is part of that but it’s only
device is part of that but it’s only
device is part of that but it’s only this small part of what you need to
this small part of what you need to
this small part of what you need to think about because the device can be
think about because the device can be
think about because the device can be manufactured you can sell it but then
manufactured you can sell it but then
manufactured you can sell it but then what do I do with this thing how do I
what do I do with this thing how do I
what do I do with this thing how do I create more out of that and safecast is
create more out of that and safecast is
create more out of that and safecast is not about devices it is about many more
not about devices it is about many more
not about devices it is about many more things I want to share a little about
things I want to share a little about
things I want to share a little about what those things are so you get an idea
what those things are so you get an idea
what those things are so you get an idea of what you could do with the data if
of what you could do with the data if
of what you could do with the data if you make it open and you make it
you make it open and you make it
you make it open and you make it available so the key thing is is to make
available so the key thing is is to make
available so the key thing is is to make it community-centric you have to think
it community-centric you have to think
it community-centric you have to think about what is it good for what are we a
about what is it good for what are we a
about what is it good for what are we a citizen going to do with it we want to
citizen going to do with it we want to
citizen going to do with it we want to know what the radiation level is in our
know what the radiation level is in our
know what the radiation level is in our street we want to know the air pollution
street we want to know the air pollution
street we want to know the air pollution around our around our neighborhood we
around our around our neighborhood we
around our around our neighborhood we want to take action we want to clean up
want to take action we want to clean up
want to take action we want to clean up how do we measure that before and after
how do we measure that before and after
how do we measure that before and after there’s lots of things let’s start to
there’s lots of things let’s start to
there’s lots of things let’s start to play a role in that we also want to find
play a role in that we also want to find
play a role in that we also want to find answers to questions nobody has answered
answers to questions nobody has answered
answers to questions nobody has answered before the Fukushima disaster was unique
before the Fukushima disaster was unique
before the Fukushima disaster was unique this is the first time such a we.why
this is the first time such a we.why
this is the first time such a we.why disaster happen in the age of the
disaster happen in the age of the
disaster happen in the age of the internet very many things came out of
internet very many things came out of
internet very many things came out of that very open problem lots of things
that very open problem lots of things
that very open problem lots of things people have lots of questions there were
people have lots of questions there were
people have lots of questions there were us to us and as the safecast volunteer
us to us and as the safecast volunteer
us to us and as the safecast volunteer group absolutely no idea how to answer
group absolutely no idea how to answer
group absolutely no idea how to answer it but once we had the answer we started
it but once we had the answer we started
it but once we had the answer we started to share that so this is something we do
to share that so this is something we do
to share that so this is something we do all the time as the same as like today
all the time as the same as like today
all the time as the same as like today we talk about what we’re doing in safe
we talk about what we’re doing in safe
we talk about what we’re doing in safe cause we do lots of work show up talks
cause we do lots of work show up talks
cause we do lots of work show up talks we get people together we do small
we get people together we do small
we get people together we do small parties to get people interested in the
parties to get people interested in the
parties to get people interested in the project lots of communication most of
project lots of communication most of
project lots of communication most of the time we only talk for 20 30 minutes
the time we only talk for 20 30 minutes
the time we only talk for 20 30 minutes and then we have two to three hours of
and then we have two to three hours of
and then we have two to three hours of question-and-answer people want to know
question-and-answer people want to know
question-and-answer people want to know their question about Fukushima their
their question about Fukushima their
their question about Fukushima their question about radiation their question
question about radiation their question
question about radiation their question about health their question about food
about health their question about food
about health their question about food their question about whatever and it is
their question about whatever and it is
their question about whatever and it is so important lots of people read the
so important lots of people read the
so important lots of people read the newspaper but you feel scared and if
newspaper but you feel scared and if
newspaper but you feel scared and if you’re scared to raise their hand and
you’re scared to raise their hand and
you’re scared to raise their hand and say I you know I have a question and
say I you know I have a question and
say I you know I have a question and these workshops and and various
these workshops and and various
these workshops and and various presentations we do we have done it to
presentations we do we have done it to
presentations we do we have done it to schools we have done it to government or
schools we have done it to government or
schools we have done it to government or agencies we have done it to companies
agencies we have done it to companies
agencies we have done it to companies you name it we have spoken to those
you name it we have spoken to those
you name it we have spoken to those people about what we learned measuring
people about what we learned measuring
people about what we learned measuring radiation of the de fukushima disaster I
radiation of the de fukushima disaster I
radiation of the de fukushima disaster I want to talk about non-governmental
want to talk about non-governmental
want to talk about non-governmental organisations NGOs this is a very famous
organisations NGOs this is a very famous
organisations NGOs this is a very famous an NGO if you look carefully it’s the
an NGO if you look carefully it’s the
an NGO if you look carefully it’s the IAEA we were invited as a keynote
IAEA we were invited as a keynote
IAEA we were invited as a keynote speaker about two years ago to talk
speaker about two years ago to talk
speaker about two years ago to talk about safeguards and how citizens can
about safeguards and how citizens can
about safeguards and how citizens can play a bigger role in the mission of the
play a bigger role in the mission of the
play a bigger role in the mission of the IAEA never had thought about it but we
IAEA never had thought about it but we
IAEA never had thought about it but we have an active dialogue going on and how
have an active dialogue going on and how
have an active dialogue going on and how citizen science can play a role in the
citizen science can play a role in the
citizen science can play a role in the IAEA organization as you may know the ia
IAEA organization as you may know the ia
IAEA organization as you may know the ia organization is a very exclusive club
organization is a very exclusive club
organization is a very exclusive club also is a very secretive Club so we are
also is a very secretive Club so we are
also is a very secretive Club so we are trying to share you know the message of
trying to share you know the message of
trying to share you know the message of open open
open open
open open shirring getting people involved is a
shirring getting people involved is a
shirring getting people involved is a very important part of their mission to
very important part of their mission to
very important part of their mission to make sure that nuclear power plants stay
make sure that nuclear power plants stay
make sure that nuclear power plants stay safe citizen science is possible it is
safe citizen science is possible it is
safe citizen science is possible it is lots of tenacity yes as Anna was talking
lots of tenacity yes as Anna was talking
lots of tenacity yes as Anna was talking about extreme tenacity needed I learned
about extreme tenacity needed I learned
about extreme tenacity needed I learned a new war today great absolutely great
a new war today great absolutely great
a new war today great absolutely great but this for me personally was great
but this for me personally was great
but this for me personally was great reward for all the volunteers that yes
reward for all the volunteers that yes
reward for all the volunteers that yes as a group we can come together we don’t
as a group we can come together we don’t
as a group we can come together we don’t know each other but we can work at a
know each other but we can work at a
know each other but we can work at a high scientific level so these are the
high scientific level so these are the
high scientific level so these are the seven gods and I know I’m Way over time
seven gods and I know I’m Way over time
seven gods and I know I’m Way over time but I want you to take each of these
but I want you to take each of these
but I want you to take each of these gods home and think about these gods and
gods home and think about these gods and
gods home and think about these gods and try to use them in your daily life they
try to use them in your daily life they
try to use them in your daily life they are extremely useful and safeguards what
are extremely useful and safeguards what
are extremely useful and safeguards what we’re going to do with the Gods we’re
we’re going to do with the Gods we’re
we’re going to do with the Gods we’re working on air pollution as our next
working on air pollution as our next
working on air pollution as our next goal we know there is a huge problem in
goal we know there is a huge problem in
goal we know there is a huge problem in the world around global warming air
the world around global warming air
the world around global warming air quality and we’re putting all our
quality and we’re putting all our
quality and we’re putting all our learnings to work to see if we can play
learnings to work to see if we can play
learnings to work to see if we can play some relevant role in that and with that
some relevant role in that and with that
some relevant role in that and with that I would like to thank you for your time
I would like to thank you for your time
I would like to thank you for your time and attention
and attention
and attention [Applause]
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