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The Robotic Future of Elderly Care | Thomas Bock | TEDxTUM


so welcome you work at the intersection

so welcome you work at the intersection of engineering robotics architecture and

of engineering robotics architecture and

of engineering robotics architecture and a couple other fields as well she will

a couple other fields as well she will

a couple other fields as well she will talk about today one of our big one if

talk about today one of our big one if

talk about today one of our big one if your big research feels is actually

your big research feels is actually

your big research feels is actually construction robotics but it’s not what

construction robotics but it’s not what

construction robotics but it’s not what you’re here to talk about today so today

you’re here to talk about today so today

you’re here to talk about today so today is about your work in robotic

is about your work in robotic

is about your work in robotic environments for quality of elderly life

environments for quality of elderly life

environments for quality of elderly life would you like to tell us shortly what

would you like to tell us shortly what

would you like to tell us shortly what it’s about

it’s about

it’s about sure initially you couldn’t put it in

sure initially you couldn’t put it in

sure initially you couldn’t put it in such a way that first the robot builds

such a way that first the robot builds

such a way that first the robot builds the space like on structural robotics I

the space like on structural robotics I

the space like on structural robotics I started 35 years ago and recently I’m

started 35 years ago and recently I’m

started 35 years ago and recently I’m dealing this the space that becomes a

dealing this the space that becomes a

dealing this the space that becomes a robot or the space is a robot now so

robot or the space is a robot now so

robot or the space is a robot now so also I got lots of inspirations from

also I got lots of inspirations from

also I got lots of inspirations from space stations because I worked once for

space stations because I worked once for

space stations because I worked once for a professor in University of Houston and

a professor in University of Houston and

a professor in University of Houston and he had a job for NASA so I got inspired

he had a job for NASA so I got inspired

he had a job for NASA so I got inspired by this and I have seen all the

by this and I have seen all the

by this and I have seen all the life-support systems that had been

life-support systems that had been

life-support systems that had been developed for space stations in the 80s

developed for space stations in the 80s

developed for space stations in the 80s and later applied so I came up with this

and later applied so I came up with this

and later applied so I came up with this idea okay why not using it for assisting

idea okay why not using it for assisting

idea okay why not using it for assisting elderly because just like an astronaut

elderly because just like an astronaut

elderly because just like an astronaut out of nowhere in space they are

out of nowhere in space they are

out of nowhere in space they are helpless and weak so we have to sustain

helpless and weak so we have to sustain

helpless and weak so we have to sustain their life so the same thing is can be

their life so the same thing is can be

their life so the same thing is can be done for elderly so they are satisfied

done for elderly so they are satisfied

done for elderly so they are satisfied and can lead a self fulfilled life so

and can lead a self fulfilled life so

and can lead a self fulfilled life so what is the difference because you said

what is the difference because you said

what is the difference because you said the space becomes too raba robots so

the space becomes too raba robots so

the space becomes too raba robots so what is the difference between robots

what is the difference between robots

what is the difference between robots and robotic space or robotic

and robotic space or robotic

and robotic space or robotic environments and I think you brought a

environments and I think you brought a

environments and I think you brought a picture for that yeah for example here

picture for that yeah for example here

picture for that yeah for example here you see a typical service robot it’s it

you see a typical service robot it’s it

you see a typical service robot it’s it can help you in serving you at home or

can help you in serving you at home or

can help you in serving you at home or in your office and it’s also used as a

in your office and it’s also used as a

in your office and it’s also used as a key robot for elderly and but my notion

key robot for elderly and but my notion

key robot for elderly and but my notion of this

of this

of this robotic space or ambient is a little bit

robotic space or ambient is a little bit

robotic space or ambient is a little bit different we don’t develop such service

different we don’t develop such service

different we don’t develop such service robots but we make the environment

robots but we make the environment

robots but we make the environment robotic or mechatronics so the functions

robotic or mechatronics so the functions

robotic or mechatronics so the functions are in such a way that that the wall the

are in such a way that that the wall the

are in such a way that that the wall the floors the ceilings the whole room

floors the ceilings the whole room

floors the ceilings the whole room becomes a robot in itself so it can help

becomes a robot in itself so it can help

becomes a robot in itself so it can help you it can assist you

you it can assist you

you it can assist you it can check your health data if you

it can check your health data if you

it can check your health data if you live by yourself it’s with which a lot

live by yourself it’s with which a lot

live by yourself it’s with which a lot of people do so it’s it’s a different

of people do so it’s it’s a different

of people do so it’s it’s a different notion it becomes actually ubiquitous so

notion it becomes actually ubiquitous so

notion it becomes actually ubiquitous so it kind of also melts into the

it kind of also melts into the

it kind of also melts into the background and you don’t even space it

background and you don’t even space it

background and you don’t even space it helps to you right right so first things

helps to you right right so first things

helps to you right right so first things first before we dive in this is your lab

first before we dive in this is your lab

first before we dive in this is your lab it’s here at the University right right

it’s here at the University right right

it’s here at the University right right this is actually probably it was the

this is actually probably it was the

this is actually probably it was the first construction robotics lab in in

first construction robotics lab in in

first construction robotics lab in in Europe and then we started here 20 years

Europe and then we started here 20 years

Europe and then we started here 20 years ago and in there I set up a kind of

ago and in there I set up a kind of

ago and in there I set up a kind of theater stage and it can change in three

theater stage and it can change in three

theater stage and it can change in three dimensions so we can something could pop

dimensions so we can something could pop

dimensions so we can something could pop up from the floor from the ceiling from

up from the floor from the ceiling from

up from the floor from the ceiling from the wall so everything could transform

the wall so everything could transform

the wall so everything could transform into different function and we are

into different function and we are

into different function and we are testing different prototypes we are

testing different prototypes we are

testing different prototypes we are testing there how elderly could live by

testing there how elderly could live by

testing there how elderly could live by themself and then we develop some

themself and then we develop some

themself and then we develop some solutions

solutions

solutions furnitures different kind of wall

furnitures different kind of wall

furnitures different kind of wall systems all the life so they can lead it

systems all the life so they can lead it

systems all the life so they can lead it independently by themselves based on

independently by themselves based on

independently by themselves based on modularity I think as you said and

modularity I think as you said and

modularity I think as you said and that’s that should become visible in the

that’s that should become visible in the

that’s that should become visible in the very first project which you can already

very first project which you can already

very first project which you can already see there on the bottom left and lecture

see there on the bottom left and lecture

see there on the bottom left and lecture that you as a model so what is that

that you as a model so what is that

that you as a model so what is that project about yeah here again is one of

project about yeah here again is one of

project about yeah here again is one of my experience from the time when I got a

my experience from the time when I got a

my experience from the time when I got a commercial pilot license in Dallas Texas

commercial pilot license in Dallas Texas

commercial pilot license in Dallas Texas after I couldn’t make it into NASA at

after I couldn’t make it into NASA at

after I couldn’t make it into NASA at least I thought I have to get up in the

least I thought I have to get up in the

least I thought I have to get up in the air somehow so

air somehow so

air somehow so I became a taxi pilot in Dallas and I

I became a taxi pilot in Dallas and I

I became a taxi pilot in Dallas and I was amazed because a pilot can control a

was amazed because a pilot can control a

was amazed because a pilot can control a big flying machine which costs 80

big flying machine which costs 80

big flying machine which costs 80 million two hundred million euros and

million two hundred million euros and

million two hundred million euros and when we got into this research about the

when we got into this research about the

when we got into this research about the aging society I thought okay why not

aging society I thought okay why not

aging society I thought okay why not designing a workstation for elderly

designing a workstation for elderly

designing a workstation for elderly which is designed like an airplane

which is designed like an airplane

which is designed like an airplane cockpit so if you in case you are

cockpit so if you in case you are

cockpit so if you in case you are defined to your wheelchair just like a

defined to your wheelchair just like a

defined to your wheelchair just like a pilot you just handle the whole

pilot you just handle the whole

pilot you just handle the whole workstation you can scan some product

workstation you can scan some product

workstation you can scan some product you can cooperatively work with a robot

you can cooperatively work with a robot

you can cooperatively work with a robot and this robot is actually we developed

and this robot is actually we developed

and this robot is actually we developed some gesture control for it and then you

some gesture control for it and then you

some gesture control for it and then you can 3d print something so the idea is

can 3d print something so the idea is

can 3d print something so the idea is that elderly who don’t know how to

that elderly who don’t know how to

that elderly who don’t know how to program a robot can handle it now here

program a robot can handle it now here

program a robot can handle it now here this man he is now actually controlling

this man he is now actually controlling

this man he is now actually controlling this robot by gestures and so the robot

this robot by gestures and so the robot

this robot by gestures and so the robot becomes a collaborative system for him

becomes a collaborative system for him

becomes a collaborative system for him and it’s very important for the elderly

and it’s very important for the elderly

and it’s very important for the elderly because they have huge experience it’s

because they have huge experience it’s

because they have huge experience it’s actually a pity we let them retire and

actually a pity we let them retire and

actually a pity we let them retire and the society doesn’t profit from their

the society doesn’t profit from their

the society doesn’t profit from their knowledge so I thought okay why not they

knowledge so I thought okay why not they

knowledge so I thought okay why not they can work at home or in the care home or

can work at home or in the care home or

can work at home or in the care home or in a Civic Center they can still

in a Civic Center they can still

in a Civic Center they can still contribute to the society because the

contribute to the society because the

contribute to the society because the social participation is very important

social participation is very important

social participation is very important psychologically for elderly so they feel

psychologically for elderly so they feel

psychologically for elderly so they feel happy they become less sick because they

happy they become less sick because they

happy they become less sick because they still can contribute to the society and

still can contribute to the society and

still can contribute to the society and here we enable it this man can do it and

here we enable it this man can do it and

here we enable it this man can do it and we tested there’s a lots of people from

we tested there’s a lots of people from

we tested there’s a lots of people from just a nearby care home yeah I mean I

just a nearby care home yeah I mean I

just a nearby care home yeah I mean I can imagine how gesture control is much

can imagine how gesture control is much

can imagine how gesture control is much much more intuitive than for example

much more intuitive than for example

much more intuitive than for example using a mouse but made when you told me

using a mouse but made when you told me

using a mouse but made when you told me that for the first time it made me think

that for the first time it made me think

that for the first time it made me think of when I was teaching my grandmother

of when I was teaching my grandmother

of when I was teaching my grandmother how to use the computer she is really

how to use the computer she is really

how to use the computer she is really really good at it now like she follows

really good at it now like she follows

really good at it now like she follows everyone on Facebook and she also looks

everyone on Facebook and she also looks

everyone on Facebook and she also looks up the weather and everything that she

up the weather and everything that she

up the weather and everything that she needs but teaching her how to click or

needs but teaching her how to click or

needs but teaching her how to click or double click with the mouse was the just

double click with the mouse was the just

double click with the mouse was the just the least intuitive functionality of a

the least intuitive functionality of a

the least intuitive functionality of a computer ever produced I think so I can

computer ever produced I think so I can

computer ever produced I think so I can imagine how desperate helps

imagine how desperate helps

imagine how desperate helps and you’re also doing tremor detection

and you’re also doing tremor detection

and you’re also doing tremor detection right so if I have it yes right so in

right so if I have it yes right so in

right so if I have it yes right so in case some people have a problem is

case some people have a problem is

case some people have a problem is tremor my assistant he developed his

tremor my assistant he developed his

tremor my assistant he developed his tremor detection so we can filter it out

tremor detection so we can filter it out

tremor detection so we can filter it out so just the right command get

so just the right command get

so just the right command get transferred to the robot and I think

transferred to the robot and I think

transferred to the robot and I think it’s very important to have this

it’s very important to have this

it’s very important to have this intuitive development because a lots of

intuitive development because a lots of

intuitive development because a lots of people who have good skills and crafts

people who have good skills and crafts

people who have good skills and crafts then they can actually still work with

then they can actually still work with

then they can actually still work with it even because elderly sometimes don’t

it even because elderly sometimes don’t

it even because elderly sometimes don’t have the physical power anymore but here

have the physical power anymore but here

have the physical power anymore but here we can empower them and then they can

we can empower them and then they can

we can empower them and then they can transfer the knowledge even to younger

transfer the knowledge even to younger

transfer the knowledge even to younger people they can teach them coach them

people they can teach them coach them

people they can teach them coach them the knowledge can be transferred to the

the knowledge can be transferred to the

the knowledge can be transferred to the robot so the skills or the crafts don’t

robot so the skills or the crafts don’t

robot so the skills or the crafts don’t die out yeah I can’t imagine it that’s a

die out yeah I can’t imagine it that’s a

die out yeah I can’t imagine it that’s a big potential for sure so the next

big potential for sure so the next

big potential for sure so the next project that you brought actually has

project that you brought actually has

project that you brought actually has something to do with this laser pointer

something to do with this laser pointer

something to do with this laser pointer right here so can you tell us what it’s

right here so can you tell us what it’s

right here so can you tell us what it’s about yeah exactly like this discussion

about yeah exactly like this discussion

about yeah exactly like this discussion we have now and you are holding the

we have now and you are holding the

we have now and you are holding the laser pointer I had this idea that why

laser pointer I had this idea that why

laser pointer I had this idea that why not using it because it’s low-cost it’s

not using it because it’s low-cost it’s

not using it because it’s low-cost it’s very cheap and most of all detection

very cheap and most of all detection

very cheap and most of all detection systems they don’t work and in the

systems they don’t work and in the

systems they don’t work and in the bathroom for example if you have some

bathroom for example if you have some

bathroom for example if you have some water around

water around

water around they used it and it becomes a low cost

they used it and it becomes a low cost

they used it and it becomes a low cost for detection system because most people

for detection system because most people

for detection system because most people fall at homes 70% of Falls happen at

fall at homes 70% of Falls happen at

fall at homes 70% of Falls happen at home is surprisingly even in winter time

home is surprisingly even in winter time

home is surprisingly even in winter time so this is a low cost fall detection

so this is a low cost fall detection

so this is a low cost fall detection system but now we’re even developing the

system but now we’re even developing the

system but now we’re even developing the next prototype and it will be even

next prototype and it will be even

next prototype and it will be even cheaper and more ubiquitous to being

cheaper and more ubiquitous to being

cheaper and more ubiquitous to being used actually I want to get rid of the

used actually I want to get rid of the

used actually I want to get rid of the robot because I think it’s better if

robot because I think it’s better if

robot because I think it’s better if there is no robot just for emergency you

there is no robot just for emergency you

there is no robot just for emergency you should come out if some really fall

should come out if some really fall

should come out if some really fall happened and check it up whether it’s

happened and check it up whether it’s

happened and check it up whether it’s really dangerous and then can give some

really dangerous and then can give some

really dangerous and then can give some alarm and but normally I think we should

alarm and but normally I think we should

alarm and but normally I think we should get rid of the robot and make the

get rid of the robot and make the

get rid of the robot and make the environment robotically smarter so what

environment robotically smarter so what

environment robotically smarter so what you could see here is that the person

you could see here is that the person

you could see here is that the person falls down and a robot detective and

falls down and a robot detective and

falls down and a robot detective and comes picked him up right right he gets

comes picked him up right right he gets

comes picked him up right right he gets there and if everything is okay

there and if everything is okay

there and if everything is okay the robot returns and if not we can call

the robot returns and if not we can call

the robot returns and if not we can call some help because it happens quite often

some help because it happens quite often

some help because it happens quite often that old people fall at home and nobody

that old people fall at home and nobody

that old people fall at home and nobody realizes it and after a couple of hours

realizes it and after a couple of hours

realizes it and after a couple of hours or days it’s too late and so we want to

or days it’s too late and so we want to

or days it’s too late and so we want to do it

do it

do it preventive also to check up the

preventive also to check up the

preventive also to check up the condition of elderly mm-hmm so we were

condition of elderly mm-hmm so we were

condition of elderly mm-hmm so we were talking about falling but I know that

talking about falling but I know that

talking about falling but I know that elderly people also often have trouble

elderly people also often have trouble

elderly people also often have trouble getting up when they lay down

getting up when they lay down

getting up when they lay down voluntarily like in a bed and that’s

voluntarily like in a bed and that’s

voluntarily like in a bed and that’s what your next project is about right

what your next project is about right

what your next project is about right can you tell us more that’s very

can you tell us more that’s very

can you tell us more that’s very important here because all the devices

important here because all the devices

important here because all the devices that help elderly in the care home or in

that help elderly in the care home or in

that help elderly in the care home or in hospitals they are kind of ugly and you

hospitals they are kind of ugly and you

hospitals they are kind of ugly and you have this lifting devices looks like a

have this lifting devices looks like a

have this lifting devices looks like a de la creme it’s not nice so we work

de la creme it’s not nice so we work

de la creme it’s not nice so we work together with also with this industrial

together with also with this industrial

together with also with this industrial designer from Milano Italy and they

designer from Milano Italy and they

designer from Milano Italy and they designed a very good furniture and all

designed a very good furniture and all

designed a very good furniture and all the furniture now it’s like a little

the furniture now it’s like a little

the furniture now it’s like a little robot the bridge over the bed can move

robot the bridge over the bed can move

robot the bridge over the bed can move and can pull you up the bed moves

and can pull you up the bed moves

and can pull you up the bed moves upwards so it doesn’t look like somebody

upwards so it doesn’t look like somebody

upwards so it doesn’t look like somebody is living there who needs help so it’s

is living there who needs help so it’s

is living there who needs help so it’s very decent and and you see here our

very decent and and you see here our

very decent and and you see here our test persons in the care home near

test persons in the care home near

test persons in the care home near Paulson in Osan Italy they enjoy it I

Paulson in Osan Italy they enjoy it I

Paulson in Osan Italy they enjoy it I like it I like the design and when you

like it I like the design and when you

like it I like the design and when you get some visitors it doesn’t look like

get some visitors it doesn’t look like

get some visitors it doesn’t look like somebody who needs help is living there

somebody who needs help is living there

somebody who needs help is living there because it’s hidden in the good design

because it’s hidden in the good design

because it’s hidden in the good design it also doesn’t look like technology

it also doesn’t look like technology

it also doesn’t look like technology inherently it doesn’t look like like a

inherently it doesn’t look like like a

inherently it doesn’t look like like a robot even though it is robotic but you

robot even though it is robotic but you

robot even though it is robotic but you actually you have functions of a robot

actually you have functions of a robot

actually you have functions of a robot just distributed and arranged in a

just distributed and arranged in a

just distributed and arranged in a different way and I think this is all

different way and I think this is all

different way and I think this is all about we have to be creative we have to

about we have to be creative we have to

about we have to be creative we have to develop new kind of kinematical solution

develop new kind of kinematical solution

develop new kind of kinematical solution it’s not an industrial robot but in a

it’s not an industrial robot but in a

it’s not an industrial robot but in a sense it’s a robot because it is just a

sense it’s a robot because it is just a

sense it’s a robot because it is just a different configuration so we have two

different configuration so we have two

different configuration so we have two more projects that have to do with

more projects that have to do with

more projects that have to do with everyday tasks so how about this here we

everyday tasks so how about this here we

everyday tasks so how about this here we find just by listening to elderly we

find just by listening to elderly we

find just by listening to elderly we found out that they have different

found out that they have different

found out that they have different problems putting on their coats for

problems putting on their coats for

problems putting on their coats for example

example

example so my assistants had this idea of

so my assistants had this idea of

so my assistants had this idea of developing this device to help them

developing this device to help them

developing this device to help them putting on the coat and it’s very

putting on the coat and it’s very

putting on the coat and it’s very helpful because you can’t move your arm

helpful because you can’t move your arm

helpful because you can’t move your arm backwards when you get older so easily

backwards when you get older so easily

backwards when you get older so easily and the same thing we did this shoes

and the same thing we did this shoes

and the same thing we did this shoes also for example and because also not

also for example and because also not

also for example and because also not only putting on the coat but also

only putting on the coat but also

only putting on the coat but also putting on and taking off shoes is

putting on and taking off shoes is

putting on and taking off shoes is difficult so we we just listen to

difficult so we we just listen to

difficult so we we just listen to elderly and try to solve the problems to

elderly and try to solve the problems to

elderly and try to solve the problems to make their life easier in terms of

make their life easier in terms of

make their life easier in terms of putting on their shoes I think you see

putting on their shoes I think you see

putting on their shoes I think you see the device it’s in integrated in the

the device it’s in integrated in the

the device it’s in integrated in the wardrobe and the Wardrobe is not just a

wardrobe and the Wardrobe is not just a

wardrobe and the Wardrobe is not just a normal wardrobe it has a mirror and it

normal wardrobe it has a mirror and it

normal wardrobe it has a mirror and it has tablet computers built inside so the

has tablet computers built inside so the

has tablet computers built inside so the health data which are collected from the

health data which are collected from the

health data which are collected from the chair on the right side can be

chair on the right side can be

chair on the right side can be transferred and then you can communicate

transferred and then you can communicate

transferred and then you can communicate with a house doctor and because

with a house doctor and because

with a house doctor and because especially in country sites for example

especially in country sites for example

especially in country sites for example they are not enough doctors and also a

they are not enough doctors and also a

they are not enough doctors and also a lots of hospitals close down in the

lots of hospitals close down in the

lots of hospitals close down in the countryside because they don’t pay off

countryside because they don’t pay off

countryside because they don’t pay off so I think we need much more of these

so I think we need much more of these

so I think we need much more of these systems in the countryside otherwise

systems in the countryside otherwise

systems in the countryside otherwise more and more people will move to big

more and more people will move to big

more and more people will move to big cities and we already have a big problem

cities and we already have a big problem

cities and we already have a big problem anyhow not enough apartments in big

anyhow not enough apartments in big

anyhow not enough apartments in big cities so it’s good to keep the old

cities so it’s good to keep the old

cities so it’s good to keep the old elderly people where they used to live

elderly people where they used to live

elderly people where they used to live because you also say you can’t

because you also say you can’t

because you also say you can’t transplant an old tree because once you

transplant an old tree because once you

transplant an old tree because once you do it

do it

do it people die faster so they should stay in

people die faster so they should stay in

people die faster so they should stay in their environment they are used for used

their environment they are used for used

their environment they are used for used to and then they can lead their life

to and then they can lead their life

to and then they can lead their life happily and independently so we were

happily and independently so we were

happily and independently so we were talking about these different fields

talking about these different fields

talking about these different fields that you work at the intersection of and

that you work at the intersection of and

that you work at the intersection of and there’s one more field coming in bred

there’s one more field coming in bred

there’s one more field coming in bred there it’s medicine and we were talking

there it’s medicine and we were talking

there it’s medicine and we were talking a lot about psychological aspect aspects

a lot about psychological aspect aspects

a lot about psychological aspect aspects feeling empowered accepting technology

feeling empowered accepting technology

feeling empowered accepting technology psychology is also field which is I

psychology is also field which is I

psychology is also field which is I think incredibly interesting to work in

think incredibly interesting to work in

think incredibly interesting to work in an interdisciplinary kind of way and you

an interdisciplinary kind of way and you

an interdisciplinary kind of way and you said that this this the the left device

said that this this the the left device

said that this this the the left device the left project it also kind of helps

the left project it also kind of helps

the left project it also kind of helps parts that fold out and parts that that

parts that fold out and parts that that

parts that fold out and parts that that assists you with different movements and

assists you with different movements and

assists you with different movements and adapt to you and then we were talking

adapt to you and then we were talking

adapt to you and then we were talking about the inspiration for that it was

about the inspiration for that it was

about the inspiration for that it was this right when I was in Japan I liked

this right when I was in Japan I liked

this right when I was in Japan I liked this toys and a little Japanese kids

this toys and a little Japanese kids

this toys and a little Japanese kids they were looking at this funny

they were looking at this funny

they were looking at this funny foreigner when I went to the toy store

foreigner when I went to the toy store

foreigner when I went to the toy store in Shimbashi in Tokyo and I bought a

in Shimbashi in Tokyo and I bought a

in Shimbashi in Tokyo and I bought a lots of these kind of toys assembled it

lots of these kind of toys assembled it

lots of these kind of toys assembled it and actually it inspired me be I think

and actually it inspired me be I think

and actually it inspired me be I think architecture has to change has to be

architecture has to change has to be

architecture has to change has to be transformed and has to be a transformer

transformed and has to be a transformer

transformed and has to be a transformer I took my students to lectures in the

I took my students to lectures in the

I took my students to lectures in the movie theater they had to see the

movie theater they had to see the

movie theater they had to see the transformer movies and then I told them

transformer movies and then I told them

transformer movies and then I told them now we do transformer architecture

now we do transformer architecture

now we do transformer architecture alright we did much more crazy stuff and

alright we did much more crazy stuff and

alright we did much more crazy stuff and it’s it’s not only just about it is face

it’s it’s not only just about it is face

it’s it’s not only just about it is face our chest to the needs for for example

our chest to the needs for for example

our chest to the needs for for example if you live by yourself you marry you

if you live by yourself you marry you

if you live by yourself you marry you get children you move together with your

get children you move together with your

get children you move together with your grandparents or whatsoever but it’s also

grandparents or whatsoever but it’s also

grandparents or whatsoever but it’s also a little bit more of philosophy for

a little bit more of philosophy for

a little bit more of philosophy for ecology because we don’t scrap and build

ecology because we don’t scrap and build

ecology because we don’t scrap and build anymore we keep the embedded energy of

anymore we keep the embedded energy of

anymore we keep the embedded energy of the built environment which used up a

the built environment which used up a

the built environment which used up a lot of energy to be produced and if it

lot of energy to be produced and if it

lot of energy to be produced and if it can transform itself we don’t generate

can transform itself we don’t generate

can transform itself we don’t generate any waste anymore so it’s actually

any waste anymore so it’s actually

any waste anymore so it’s actually little bit more than just robotics and

little bit more than just robotics and

little bit more than just robotics and transformers and helping the elderly

transformers and helping the elderly

transformers and helping the elderly it’s actually to save our planet

it’s actually to save our planet

it’s actually to save our planet from too much using up our resources

from too much using up our resources

from too much using up our resources mm-hmm and you mentioned you mentioned a

mm-hmm and you mentioned you mentioned a

mm-hmm and you mentioned you mentioned a care home in boson Oh before so you

care home in boson Oh before so you

care home in boson Oh before so you actually have quite some users for your

actually have quite some users for your

actually have quite some users for your project already this isn’t in Italy and

project already this isn’t in Italy and

project already this isn’t in Italy and how do you work with these with these

how do you work with these with these

how do you work with these with these people now it’s a permanently the final

people now it’s a permanently the final

people now it’s a permanently the final prototype the last one we build is order

prototype the last one we build is order

prototype the last one we build is order different prototypes for the bathroom

different prototypes for the bathroom

different prototypes for the bathroom for a bedroom for the living room for a

for a bedroom for the living room for a

for a bedroom for the living room for a dining room for all these wardrobe and

dining room for all these wardrobe and

dining room for all these wardrobe and so on is now there and the prototypes

so on is now there and the prototypes

so on is now there and the prototypes before we tested here in Munich and my

before we tested here in Munich and my

before we tested here in Munich and my laboratory we brought the people from

laboratory we brought the people from

laboratory we brought the people from the giacconi care home just from next

the giacconi care home just from next

the giacconi care home just from next next block from the hess trouser

next block from the hess trouser

next block from the hess trouser and these people were very helpful

and these people were very helpful

and these people were very helpful because we improved about three four

because we improved about three four

because we improved about three four generations of prototype still Italy it

generations of prototype still Italy it

generations of prototype still Italy it was working and functionally okay

was working and functionally okay

was working and functionally okay so here you see how they are testing it

so here you see how they are testing it

so here you see how they are testing it on the right side is fever detection

on the right side is fever detection

on the right side is fever detection built in in the restroom in the mirror

built in in the restroom in the mirror

built in in the restroom in the mirror in the restroom and and this lady just

in the restroom and and this lady just

in the restroom and and this lady just puts on her shoes and as you said before

puts on her shoes and as you said before

puts on her shoes and as you said before we can flip out all kind of handles and

we can flip out all kind of handles and

we can flip out all kind of handles and stuff like this so the wardrobe

stuff like this so the wardrobe

stuff like this so the wardrobe transforms into a device that helps you

transforms into a device that helps you

transforms into a device that helps you putting on taking off your shoes and

putting on taking off your shoes and

putting on taking off your shoes and it’s also communication terminal to

it’s also communication terminal to

it’s also communication terminal to communicate this your house doctor this

communicate this your house doctor this

communicate this your house doctor this your family and so on I think that is

your family and so on I think that is

your family and so on I think that is incredible I would actually like to

incredible I would actually like to

incredible I would actually like to visit a care home once maybe we can set

visit a care home once maybe we can set

visit a care home once maybe we can set something up but in the sessions that we

something up but in the sessions that we

something up but in the sessions that we were talking about how things we do

were talking about how things we do

were talking about how things we do today shape our future and what’s your

today shape our future and what’s your

today shape our future and what’s your hope or your vision of the future of

hope or your vision of the future of

hope or your vision of the future of elderly care for example once once I

elderly care for example once once I

elderly care for example once once I retire

retire

retire will I be taking care of my robots or

will I be taking care of my robots or

will I be taking care of my robots or what will happen yeah I think we will

what will happen yeah I think we will

what will happen yeah I think we will have a mix all the repetitive tasks for

have a mix all the repetitive tasks for

have a mix all the repetitive tasks for example the care person no is

example the care person no is

example the care person no is complaining about a heavy workload they

complaining about a heavy workload they

complaining about a heavy workload they have and elderly complain that nobody

have and elderly complain that nobody

have and elderly complain that nobody talks to them so what is easy to to

talks to them so what is easy to to

talks to them so what is easy to to automate into robot eyes are these

automate into robot eyes are these

automate into robot eyes are these repetitive tasks that can be easily

repetitive tasks that can be easily

repetitive tasks that can be easily described and then you can develop an

described and then you can develop an

described and then you can develop an algorithm and then you can develop an

algorithm and then you can develop an

algorithm and then you can develop an automation or robotic system so it will

automation or robotic system so it will

automation or robotic system so it will feed the personnel the cappers know from

feed the personnel the cappers know from

feed the personnel the cappers know from the hard work and then they have time to

the hard work and then they have time to

the hard work and then they have time to communicate with the people which is

communicate with the people which is

communicate with the people which is very important we just heard about

very important we just heard about

very important we just heard about emotional intelligence and so on so it’s

emotional intelligence and so on so it’s

emotional intelligence and so on so it’s very important that you communicate with

very important that you communicate with

very important that you communicate with the elderly the social interaction is

the elderly the social interaction is

the elderly the social interaction is very important so it will be a mix so

very important so it will be a mix so

very important so it will be a mix so their routine work will be done by them

their routine work will be done by them

their routine work will be done by them by the machine and then humans can focus

by the machine and then humans can focus

by the machine and then humans can focus on communication and

on communication and

on communication and and the emotional exchange which is much

and the emotional exchange which is much

and the emotional exchange which is much more important I think that’s a very

more important I think that’s a very

more important I think that’s a very desirable vision for the future thank

desirable vision for the future thank

desirable vision for the future thank you very much for coming professor

you very much for coming professor

you very much for coming professor Thomas Bach okay thank you for having me

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