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The power of second chances | Catherine Hoke | TEDxSanFrancisco


I’m honored to be with you today to

I’m honored to be with you today to share with you the work of defy ventures

share with you the work of defy ventures

share with you the work of defy ventures where our slogan is transform your

where our slogan is transform your

where our slogan is transform your hustle and if you give me the

hustle and if you give me the

hustle and if you give me the opportunity today I might even transform

opportunity today I might even transform

opportunity today I might even transform a little bit of your hustle so the big

a little bit of your hustle so the big

a little bit of your hustle so the big idea behind defy ventures is that many

idea behind defy ventures is that many

idea behind defy ventures is that many people who are incarcerated are former

people who are incarcerated are former

people who are incarcerated are former drug dealers or gang leaders who

drug dealers or gang leaders who

drug dealers or gang leaders who actually share a lot of similar skill

actually share a lot of similar skill

actually share a lot of similar skill sets with successful legal entrepreneurs

sets with successful legal entrepreneurs

sets with successful legal entrepreneurs like yourselves and if you ask a warden

like yourselves and if you ask a warden

like yourselves and if you ask a warden many of them would tell you that their

many of them would tell you that their

many of them would tell you that their prison cells are filled with

prison cells are filled with

prison cells are filled with natural-born hustlers who have been

natural-born hustlers who have been

natural-born hustlers who have been selling all kinds of stuff illegally and

selling all kinds of stuff illegally and

selling all kinds of stuff illegally and there’s that saying you can’t take the

there’s that saying you can’t take the

there’s that saying you can’t take the hustle out of the hustler so what would

hustle out of the hustler so what would

hustle out of the hustler so what would happen if we actually transformed their

happen if we actually transformed their

happen if we actually transformed their hustle well that’s exactly what we do at

hustle well that’s exactly what we do at

hustle well that’s exactly what we do at defy ventures where we use our love for

defy ventures where we use our love for

defy ventures where we use our love for entrepreneurship and host shark tank

entrepreneurship and host shark tank

entrepreneurship and host shark tank style pitch competitions inside and

style pitch competitions inside and

style pitch competitions inside and outside of prisons and pair it with a

outside of prisons and pair it with a

outside of prisons and pair it with a whole lot of character development to

whole lot of character development to

whole lot of character development to equip men women and youth who are

equip men women and youth who are

equip men women and youth who are incarcerated some of America’s biggest

incarcerated some of America’s biggest

incarcerated some of America’s biggest underdogs to win every single day so

underdogs to win every single day so

underdogs to win every single day so why’d you come here to TEDx San

why’d you come here to TEDx San

why’d you come here to TEDx San Francisco today to be inspired I hate to

Francisco today to be inspired I hate to

Francisco today to be inspired I hate to disappoint you right from the jump but I

disappoint you right from the jump but I

disappoint you right from the jump but I am NOT an inspirational speaker I’m a

am NOT an inspirational speaker I’m a

am NOT an inspirational speaker I’m a social change agent and my wife or being

social change agent and my wife or being

social change agent and my wife or being on this stage right now is to get action

on this stage right now is to get action

on this stage right now is to get action out of you to generate results if you

out of you to generate results if you

out of you to generate results if you are someone who has been complaining

are someone who has been complaining

are someone who has been complaining about the status of our country or if

about the status of our country or if

about the status of our country or if you claim that you hate social or racial

you claim that you hate social or racial

you claim that you hate social or racial injustice

injustice

injustice welcome to defy I’m here today to talk

welcome to defy I’m here today to talk

welcome to defy I’m here today to talk you into coming to prison with me and

you into coming to prison with me and

you into coming to prison with me and becoming a philanthropist a

becoming a philanthropist a

becoming a philanthropist a philanthropist that you’ve always wanted

philanthropist that you’ve always wanted

philanthropist that you’ve always wanted to be in watch out I was trained as a

to be in watch out I was trained as a

to be in watch out I was trained as a teenager by Cutco knives selling knives

teenager by Cutco knives selling knives

teenager by Cutco knives selling knives door-to-door so I’m gonna not smile and

door-to-door so I’m gonna not smile and

door-to-door so I’m gonna not smile and try to get it yes out of you by the time

try to get it yes out of you by the time

try to get it yes out of you by the time I’m done here so now I need a little

I’m done here so now I need a little

I’m done here so now I need a little audience participation and a whole lot

audience participation and a whole lot

audience participation and a whole lot of honesty if by the age of 23

of honesty if by the age of 23

of honesty if by the age of 23 you did something really really stupid

you did something really really stupid

you did something really really stupid that you really regret raise your hand

that you really regret raise your hand

that you really regret raise your hand up I okay that’s what I thought most of

up I okay that’s what I thought most of

up I okay that’s what I thought most of you if you’ve ever been arrested raise

you if you’ve ever been arrested raise

you if you’ve ever been arrested raise your hand

your hand

your hand not so many thank you for your honesty

not so many thank you for your honesty

not so many thank you for your honesty if you’ve done something in your life

if you’ve done something in your life

if you’ve done something in your life for which you could have been arrested

for which you could have been arrested

for which you could have been arrested but you did not get arrested raise your

but you did not get arrested raise your

but you did not get arrested raise your hand up high all the not enos of

hand up high all the not enos of

hand up high all the not enos of tedsters that’s what I thought this is a

tedsters that’s what I thought this is a

tedsters that’s what I thought this is a lot of why I do defy this is my best

lot of why I do defy this is my best

lot of why I do defy this is my best effort at leveling the playing field in

effort at leveling the playing field in

effort at leveling the playing field in America because sadly in our country

America because sadly in our country

America because sadly in our country sometimes people look a little more

sometimes people look a little more

sometimes people look a little more estable than others and my experience if

estable than others and my experience if

estable than others and my experience if you are black or brown or poor you

you are black or brown or poor you

you are black or brown or poor you rarely encounter justice the way that

rarely encounter justice the way that

rarely encounter justice the way that you would if you are white and you’re

you would if you are white and you’re

you would if you are white and you’re rich and you can buy your way out of

rich and you can buy your way out of

rich and you can buy your way out of almost any crime to me that’s not

almost any crime to me that’s not

almost any crime to me that’s not justice what if you were only known for

justice what if you were only known for

justice what if you were only known for the worst thing that you’ve ever done

the worst thing that you’ve ever done

the worst thing that you’ve ever done think about what that is that act what

think about what that is that act what

think about what that is that act what would be the accompanying labels

would be the accompanying labels

would be the accompanying labels what would you be known for for the rest

what would you be known for for the rest

what would you be known for for the rest of your life ex liar fill in the blank

of your life ex liar fill in the blank

of your life ex liar fill in the blank because this is the world that I work in

because this is the world that I work in

because this is the world that I work in the people that I represent and advocate

the people that I represent and advocate

the people that I represent and advocate for they’ve made grave mistakes in their

for they’ve made grave mistakes in their

for they’ve made grave mistakes in their past but then they serve their time they

past but then they serve their time they

past but then they serve their time they pay their debt to society yet they’re

pay their debt to society yet they’re

pay their debt to society yet they’re released from prison and are called

released from prison and are called

released from prison and are called ex-offenders for the rest of their lives

ex-offenders for the rest of their lives

ex-offenders for the rest of their lives and it’s like they’re wearing these

and it’s like they’re wearing these

and it’s like they’re wearing these invisible handcuffs and so many people

invisible handcuffs and so many people

invisible handcuffs and so many people don’t want to hire someone even for a

don’t want to hire someone even for a

don’t want to hire someone even for a mistake that they made in their youth

mistake that they made in their youth

mistake that they made in their youth America which is touted as a world of

America which is touted as a world of

America which is touted as a world of second chances has only 5% of the

second chances has only 5% of the

second chances has only 5% of the world’s population but we have 22% of

world’s population but we have 22% of

world’s population but we have 22% of the incarcerated population and we are

the incarcerated population and we are

the incarcerated population and we are failing miserably in the field of prison

failing miserably in the field of prison

failing miserably in the field of prison rehabilitation of 23 year olds in our

rehabilitation of 23 year olds in our

rehabilitation of 23 year olds in our country 30% of them already have a

country 30% of them already have a

country 30% of them already have a criminal history don’t you think that’s

criminal history don’t you think that’s

criminal history don’t you think that’s a little young to write people off for

a little young to write people off for

a little young to write people off for the rest of their lives and if people

the rest of their lives and if people

the rest of their lives and if people who go behind bars 76.6% of them are

who go behind bars 76.6% of them are

who go behind bars 76.6% of them are really everyone

really everyone

really everyone the statistic that makes me the saddest

the statistic that makes me the saddest

the statistic that makes me the saddest is that 70% of children with

is that 70% of children with

is that 70% of children with incarcerated parents pop follow and

incarcerated parents pop follow and

incarcerated parents pop follow and their parents footsteps to prison it’s

their parents footsteps to prison it’s

their parents footsteps to prison it’s quite a legacy to inherit isn’t it well

quite a legacy to inherit isn’t it well

quite a legacy to inherit isn’t it well legacy did you inherit and what are you

legacy did you inherit and what are you

legacy did you inherit and what are you doing with it some of you might be here

doing with it some of you might be here

doing with it some of you might be here and you’re like yon who cares

and you’re like yon who cares

and you’re like yon who cares people with criminal histories I don’t

people with criminal histories I don’t

people with criminal histories I don’t care if you care about our country I

care if you care about our country I

care if you care about our country I hope that you care about the next

hope that you care about the next

hope that you care about the next generation of children and perhaps you

generation of children and perhaps you

generation of children and perhaps you don’t realize that nearly half of US

don’t realize that nearly half of US

don’t realize that nearly half of US children actually have a parent who has

children actually have a parent who has

children actually have a parent who has a criminal history and that’s why at

a criminal history and that’s why at

a criminal history and that’s why at defy we don’t just teach

defy we don’t just teach

defy we don’t just teach entrepreneurship but we actually teach

entrepreneurship but we actually teach

entrepreneurship but we actually teach parenting so that our men can become the

parenting so that our men can become the

parenting so that our men can become the parents that we need they’re role models

parents that we need they’re role models

parents that we need they’re role models the entrepreneurs the employers the

the entrepreneurs the employers the

the entrepreneurs the employers the employees the voices that our

employees the voices that our

employees the voices that our communities need so much and that’s how

communities need so much and that’s how

communities need so much and that’s how we’re reversing generations of

we’re reversing generations of

we’re reversing generations of incarceration and violence and poverty

incarceration and violence and poverty

incarceration and violence and poverty and many philanthropists like to fund

and many philanthropists like to fund

and many philanthropists like to fund after-school kids programs for at-risk

after-school kids programs for at-risk

after-school kids programs for at-risk youth and that’s great but I have yet to

youth and that’s great but I have yet to

youth and that’s great but I have yet to ever see a single after-school Kids

ever see a single after-school Kids

ever see a single after-school Kids program that is more effective than a

program that is more effective than a

program that is more effective than a committed parent who’s teaching the

committed parent who’s teaching the

committed parent who’s teaching the values to their own child that’s why we

values to their own child that’s why we

values to their own child that’s why we do what we do at defy and how it’s not

do what we do at defy and how it’s not

do what we do at defy and how it’s not just men we serve the ladies do so they

just men we serve the ladies do so they

just men we serve the ladies do so they can become the proud mothers that they

can become the proud mothers that they

can become the proud mothers that they have always wanted to be and

have always wanted to be and

have always wanted to be and collectively this is our way of making

collectively this is our way of making

collectively this is our way of making America great again don’t hate don’t

America great again don’t hate don’t

America great again don’t hate don’t hate this is just a little prisoner I

hate this is just a little prisoner I

hate this is just a little prisoner I thought it was sent to me and I thought

thought it was sent to me and I thought

thought it was sent to me and I thought it was kind of funny so I’m gonna tell

it was kind of funny so I’m gonna tell

it was kind of funny so I’m gonna tell you my story about how I got started in

you my story about how I got started in

you my story about how I got started in this work when I was 12 years old a good

this work when I was 12 years old a good

this work when I was 12 years old a good friend of mine was brutally murdered

friend of mine was brutally murdered

friend of mine was brutally murdered I thought anyone in prison was like the

I thought anyone in prison was like the

I thought anyone in prison was like the scum of the earth they could rot and die

scum of the earth they could rot and die

scum of the earth they could rot and die in that place so I never thought I’d be

in that place so I never thought I’d be

in that place so I never thought I’d be doing this I used to work in venture

doing this I used to work in venture

doing this I used to work in venture capital and private equity and when I

capital and private equity and when I

capital and private equity and when I was 26 and blonde I was invited on a

was 26 and blonde I was invited on a

was 26 and blonde I was invited on a tour of a Texas prison and I found

tour of a Texas prison and I found

tour of a Texas prison and I found myself surrounded by amazing human

myself surrounded by amazing human

myself surrounded by amazing human potential people I believe our America’s

potential people I believe our America’s

potential people I believe our America’s most overlooked talent pool biggest

most overlooked talent pool biggest

most overlooked talent pool biggest underdogs and so I jumped ship from my

underdogs and so I jumped ship from my

underdogs and so I jumped ship from my fancy New York private equity job I

fancy New York private equity job I

fancy New York private equity job I moved to Texas I poured out

moved to Texas I poured out

moved to Texas I poured out my whole bank account I had $50,000 into

my whole bank account I had $50,000 into

my whole bank account I had $50,000 into starting what became prison

starting what became prison

starting what became prison entrepreneurship program or PEP in Texas

entrepreneurship program or PEP in Texas

entrepreneurship program or PEP in Texas and over the next five years under my

and over the next five years under my

and over the next five years under my leadership we generated some of the

leadership we generated some of the

leadership we generated some of the strongest results and prison

strongest results and prison

strongest results and prison rehabilitation with a recidivism rate of

rehabilitation with a recidivism rate of

rehabilitation with a recidivism rate of less than five percent I lived my life

less than five percent I lived my life

less than five percent I lived my life for graduation day for half of our men

for graduation day for half of our men

for graduation day for half of our men they’d never been in a cap and gown

they’d never been in a cap and gown

they’d never been in a cap and gown before and we recruited their families

before and we recruited their families

before and we recruited their families to celebrate one of the biggest

to celebrate one of the biggest

to celebrate one of the biggest accomplishments of their lives and

accomplishments of their lives and

accomplishments of their lives and before the graduation I had negotiated

before the graduation I had negotiated

before the graduation I had negotiated with a warden for approval for our guys

with a warden for approval for our guys

with a warden for approval for our guys to decorate these little teddy bear

to decorate these little teddy bear

to decorate these little teddy bear t-shirts and then at one point in the

t-shirts and then at one point in the

t-shirts and then at one point in the graduation ceremony I get our proud dads

graduation ceremony I get our proud dads

graduation ceremony I get our proud dads up there on the stage armed with their

up there on the stage armed with their

up there on the stage armed with their teddy bears and I would say to all the

teddy bears and I would say to all the

teddy bears and I would say to all the kiddos in the audience if you see your

kiddos in the audience if you see your

kiddos in the audience if you see your daddy up on stage right now run up to

daddy up on stage right now run up to

daddy up on stage right now run up to him here’s a good gift to give you and

him here’s a good gift to give you and

him here’s a good gift to give you and the dad said scoop their arms and their

the dad said scoop their arms and their

the dad said scoop their arms and their kids into their arms and say I love you

kids into their arms and say I love you

kids into their arms and say I love you and I will never leave you again so

and I will never leave you again so

and I will never leave you again so another reason I do this work is because

another reason I do this work is because

another reason I do this work is because of my love and appreciation of good

of my love and appreciation of good

of my love and appreciation of good parenting but I’m no longer at PEP in

parenting but I’m no longer at PEP in

parenting but I’m no longer at PEP in Texas I’m now at defy and I wish that I

Texas I’m now at defy and I wish that I

Texas I’m now at defy and I wish that I could tell you that it’s because I’m an

could tell you that it’s because I’m an

could tell you that it’s because I’m an aggressive social entrepreneur which is

aggressive social entrepreneur which is

aggressive social entrepreneur which is true you wanted to bring national and

true you wanted to bring national and

true you wanted to bring national and healing opportunities all over this

healing opportunities all over this

healing opportunities all over this country but that question that I asked

country but that question that I asked

country but that question that I asked you earlier became my story what would

you earlier became my story what would

you earlier became my story what would it be like if you were only known for

it be like if you were only known for

it be like if you were only known for that worst thing so I had been married

that worst thing so I had been married

that worst thing so I had been married for nine years and at thirty-one I found

for nine years and at thirty-one I found

for nine years and at thirty-one I found myself unexpectedly divorced something I

myself unexpectedly divorced something I

myself unexpectedly divorced something I said would never happen and after

said would never happen and after

said would never happen and after receiving my divorce papers I didn’t

receiving my divorce papers I didn’t

receiving my divorce papers I didn’t handle myself in a way that made me

handle myself in a way that made me

handle myself in a way that made me proud I ended up having some

proud I ended up having some

proud I ended up having some relationships with people who had gotten

relationships with people who had gotten

relationships with people who had gotten out of the Texas prison system a

out of the Texas prison system a

out of the Texas prison system a decision I regret to this day I knew

decision I regret to this day I knew

decision I regret to this day I knew better I was honest about my choices and

better I was honest about my choices and

better I was honest about my choices and what I did was not illegal that it was a

what I did was not illegal that it was a

what I did was not illegal that it was a bad leadership decision and when the

bad leadership decision and when the

bad leadership decision and when the Texas Department of Criminal Justice

Texas Department of Criminal Justice

Texas Department of Criminal Justice found out about my mistakes they forced

found out about my mistakes they forced

found out about my mistakes they forced my resignation in the media nationally

my resignation in the media nationally

my resignation in the media nationally so instead of being known for the good

so instead of being known for the good

so instead of being known for the good work that I had poured my life into I

work that I had poured my life into I

work that I had poured my life into I was not now known for what became a sex

was not now known for what became a sex

was not now known for what became a sex scandal I was so covered in the thickest

scandal I was so covered in the thickest

scandal I was so covered in the thickest wall of

wall of

wall of shame that I didn’t want to live anymore

shame that I didn’t want to live anymore

shame that I didn’t want to live anymore but what saved my life was that before

but what saved my life was that before

but what saved my life was that before my story hit the news I sent out my

my story hit the news I sent out my

my story hit the news I sent out my mistakes in a full disclosure letter to

mistakes in a full disclosure letter to

mistakes in a full disclosure letter to her 7500 supporters who wrote back we

her 7500 supporters who wrote back we

her 7500 supporters who wrote back we love you we stand with you you’ve always

love you we stand with you you’ve always

love you we stand with you you’ve always preached grace in second chances what

preached grace in second chances what

preached grace in second chances what are you doing next I don’t have a plan B

are you doing next I don’t have a plan B

are you doing next I don’t have a plan B I don’t know I went through a whole lot

I don’t know I went through a whole lot

I don’t know I went through a whole lot more therapy than I care to admit over

more therapy than I care to admit over

more therapy than I care to admit over the next year I moved back to New York

the next year I moved back to New York

the next year I moved back to New York City I got an offer to go back into

City I got an offer to go back into

City I got an offer to go back into venture capital but I felt like a

venture capital but I felt like a

venture capital but I felt like a sellout the minute that I got that offer

sellout the minute that I got that offer

sellout the minute that I got that offer because I know why God has put me on

because I know why God has put me on

because I know why God has put me on earth so seven years ago feeling as

earth so seven years ago feeling as

earth so seven years ago feeling as insecure as ever what will people say

insecure as ever what will people say

insecure as ever what will people say about me after this scandal

about me after this scandal

about me after this scandal I found it defy ventures and defy is my

I found it defy ventures and defy is my

I found it defy ventures and defy is my 2.0 it’s my second chance to give second

2.0 it’s my second chance to give second

2.0 it’s my second chance to give second chances some people say we’re in the

chances some people say we’re in the

chances some people say we’re in the second-chance business but if you

second-chance business but if you

second-chance business but if you actually knew the back stories of the

actually knew the back stories of the

actually knew the back stories of the men and women that we serve you might

men and women that we serve you might

men and women that we serve you might realize that we are more often in the

realize that we are more often in the

realize that we are more often in the business of legitimate first chances so

business of legitimate first chances so

business of legitimate first chances so what do we do at defy our program in

what do we do at defy our program in

what do we do at defy our program in prison is called CEO of your new life

prison is called CEO of your new life

prison is called CEO of your new life where we teach entrepreneurship an

where we teach entrepreneurship an

where we teach entrepreneurship an employment readiness character

employment readiness character

employment readiness character development reentry preparation and

development reentry preparation and

development reentry preparation and family reunification we have a hundred

family reunification we have a hundred

family reunification we have a hundred courses taught on video by some of the

courses taught on video by some of the

courses taught on video by some of the nation’s best experts we’re so spoiled I

nation’s best experts we’re so spoiled I

nation’s best experts we’re so spoiled I can’t even believe it Seth Godin Harvard

can’t even believe it Seth Godin Harvard

can’t even believe it Seth Godin Harvard and Stanford MBA professors teaching our

and Stanford MBA professors teaching our

and Stanford MBA professors teaching our people Preet Bharara who’s fired by

people Preet Bharara who’s fired by

people Preet Bharara who’s fired by Trump is part of our volunteer faculty

Trump is part of our volunteer faculty

Trump is part of our volunteer faculty and when our graduates finish defy they

and when our graduates finish defy they

and when our graduates finish defy they average an eighth grade formal education

average an eighth grade formal education

average an eighth grade formal education but our curriculum has been vetted by

but our curriculum has been vetted by

but our curriculum has been vetted by Baylor University’s MBA program and when

Baylor University’s MBA program and when

Baylor University’s MBA program and when they earn that certificate it ends up

they earn that certificate it ends up

they earn that certificate it ends up being usually the proudest moment of

being usually the proudest moment of

being usually the proudest moment of their lives and it’s that much sweeter

their lives and it’s that much sweeter

their lives and it’s that much sweeter because it’s done in the presence of

because it’s done in the presence of

because it’s done in the presence of their families who are so proud of them

their families who are so proud of them

their families who are so proud of them this photo right here is of a Pelican

this photo right here is of a Pelican

this photo right here is of a Pelican Bay State Prison solitary confinement

Bay State Prison solitary confinement

Bay State Prison solitary confinement unit also called the Shu where we work

unit also called the Shu where we work

unit also called the Shu where we work this is one of our business volunteers

this is one of our business volunteers

this is one of our business volunteers providing business coaching right before

providing business coaching right before

providing business coaching right before the shark tank in the Shu the warden at

the shark tank in the Shu the warden at

the shark tank in the Shu the warden at Pelican Bay took a big risk on the day

Pelican Bay took a big risk on the day

Pelican Bay took a big risk on the day of the graduation because he wanted

of the graduation because he wanted

of the graduation because he wanted is meant to have a proper graduation in

is meant to have a proper graduation in

is meant to have a proper graduation in a cap and gown he took them out of

a cap and gown he took them out of

a cap and gown he took them out of solitary confinement and for some of our

solitary confinement and for some of our

solitary confinement and for some of our men it was their first time seeing the

men it was their first time seeing the

men it was their first time seeing the sky in 11 years and this man’s name is

sky in 11 years and this man’s name is

sky in 11 years and this man’s name is Mike and he won the competition on that

Mike and he won the competition on that

Mike and he won the competition on that day and he delivered proudly in front of

day and he delivered proudly in front of

day and he delivered proudly in front of a very special guest her name is Eden

a very special guest her name is Eden

a very special guest her name is Eden she’s his 19 year old daughter when Eden

she’s his 19 year old daughter when Eden

she’s his 19 year old daughter when Eden was only nine years old her daddy was

was only nine years old her daddy was

was only nine years old her daddy was locked up and this photo here is of the

locked up and this photo here is of the

locked up and this photo here is of the first hug that she’s gotten to give her

first hug that she’s gotten to give her

first hug that she’s gotten to give her dad in the last 10 years because before

dad in the last 10 years because before

dad in the last 10 years because before that it was across four inches of glass

that it was across four inches of glass

that it was across four inches of glass Eden said that her dad’s graduation was

Eden said that her dad’s graduation was

Eden said that her dad’s graduation was the best day of her life

the best day of her life

the best day of her life so the defi love doesn’t stop at the

so the defi love doesn’t stop at the

so the defi love doesn’t stop at the prison walls when our men and women get

prison walls when our men and women get

prison walls when our men and women get out of prison we hook them up with jobs

out of prison we hook them up with jobs

out of prison we hook them up with jobs executive mentors we bring them on the

executive mentors we bring them on the

executive mentors we bring them on the most amazing field trips to all these

most amazing field trips to all these

most amazing field trips to all these companies like Google that photo is of

companies like Google that photo is of

companies like Google that photo is of our grads up at Harvard Business School

our grads up at Harvard Business School

our grads up at Harvard Business School being taught by the very best and we’ve

being taught by the very best and we’ve

being taught by the very best and we’ve achieved our results by recruiting some

achieved our results by recruiting some

achieved our results by recruiting some of the nation’s top leaders like Sheryl

of the nation’s top leaders like Sheryl

of the nation’s top leaders like Sheryl Sandberg here in prison with us to turn

Sandberg here in prison with us to turn

Sandberg here in prison with us to turn into advocates for prison reform we have

into advocates for prison reform we have

into advocates for prison reform we have 4,400 volunteers on a hoping to add to

4,400 volunteers on a hoping to add to

4,400 volunteers on a hoping to add to the ranks today with all of you and

the ranks today with all of you and

the ranks today with all of you and we’ve been recognized in all types of

we’ve been recognized in all types of

we’ve been recognized in all types of media for second chances and nice

media for second chances and nice

media for second chances and nice results and we were featured as one of

results and we were featured as one of

results and we were featured as one of the 25 most disruptive companies of the

the 25 most disruptive companies of the

the 25 most disruptive companies of the year in ink magazine were the only

year in ink magazine were the only

year in ink magazine were the only nonprofit that made the list because we

nonprofit that made the list because we

nonprofit that made the list because we have a 95 percent employment rate for

have a 95 percent employment rate for

have a 95 percent employment rate for our men and women who are coming home

our men and women who are coming home

our men and women who are coming home and a 3.2 percent recidivism rate which

and a 3.2 percent recidivism rate which

and a 3.2 percent recidivism rate which I believe is the lowest of any prison

I believe is the lowest of any prison

I believe is the lowest of any prison rehabilitation program in the country

rehabilitation program in the country

rehabilitation program in the country and we’re saving taxpayers bundles of

and we’re saving taxpayers bundles of

and we’re saving taxpayers bundles of money our cost per head for one

money our cost per head for one

money our cost per head for one scholarship is only $500 compare that to

scholarship is only $500 compare that to

scholarship is only $500 compare that to the cost that you California taxpayers

the cost that you California taxpayers

the cost that you California taxpayers pay seventy two thousand dollars to lock

pay seventy two thousand dollars to lock

pay seventy two thousand dollars to lock up one person for one year we’ve

up one person for one year we’ve

up one person for one year we’ve incubated and financed 170 companies by

incubated and financed 170 companies by

incubated and financed 170 companies by our released graduates their businesses

our released graduates their businesses

our released graduates their businesses have been so successful that they have

have been so successful that they have

have been so successful that they have created 370 job opportunities for other

created 370 job opportunities for other

created 370 job opportunities for other release men and women I might tell you

release men and women I might tell you

release men and women I might tell you about a couple of six

about a couple of six

about a couple of six stories if we go back to the slide one

stories if we go back to the slide one

stories if we go back to the slide one of our one of our graduates is in our

of our one of our graduates is in our

of our one of our graduates is in our audience right now and he founded a

audience right now and he founded a

audience right now and he founded a company called prison bars while doing

company called prison bars while doing

company called prison bars while doing five years of prison time he came up

five years of prison time he came up

five years of prison time he came up with this a recipe for criminally

with this a recipe for criminally

with this a recipe for criminally delicious granola bars of which he sold

delicious granola bars of which he sold

delicious granola bars of which he sold thousands throughout the country

and if I could show you on the slides if

and if I could show you on the slides if your company needs any trade show

your company needs any trade show

your company needs any trade show displays then you would see project

displays then you would see project

displays then you would see project trade show look it up it’s the name of a

trade show look it up it’s the name of a

trade show look it up it’s the name of a company in the Bay Area he’s made three

company in the Bay Area he’s made three

company in the Bay Area he’s made three hundred thousand dollars in revenue in

hundred thousand dollars in revenue in

hundred thousand dollars in revenue in just his first year out of prison ok

just his first year out of prison ok

just his first year out of prison ok there’s stuff that sunberg right there

there’s stuff that sunberg right there

there’s stuff that sunberg right there he’s in our audience and project trade

he’s in our audience and project trade

he’s in our audience and project trade show we’re a proud customer of there’s

show we’re a proud customer of there’s

show we’re a proud customer of there’s three hundred thousand dollars in

three hundred thousand dollars in

three hundred thousand dollars in revenue and now I’d like to share with

revenue and now I’d like to share with

revenue and now I’d like to share with you the success story of our best known

you the success story of our best known

you the success story of our best known graduate costs hard day

we’re up two blocks away from here and

we’re up two blocks away from here and back in a day or you hear these sirens

back in a day or you hear these sirens

back in a day or you hear these sirens drug mines actually coming up this

drug mines actually coming up this

drug mines actually coming up this building we lived under the poverty line

building we lived under the poverty line

building we lived under the poverty line my mom didn’t have much she worked in a

my mom didn’t have much she worked in a

my mom didn’t have much she worked in a factory she would ask me you know what

factory she would ask me you know what

factory she would ask me you know what do you want to do when you grow up and I

do you want to do when you grow up and I

do you want to do when you grow up and I told him I want to be rich the first

told him I want to be rich the first

told him I want to be rich the first opportunity that I had to become rich

opportunity that I had to become rich

opportunity that I had to become rich was to the world of drug I started at

was to the world of drug I started at

was to the world of drug I started at eleven smoking weed getting involved

eleven smoking weed getting involved

eleven smoking weed getting involved heavily with coke and crack and I

heavily with coke and crack and I

heavily with coke and crack and I started selling crack right on his back

started selling crack right on his back

started selling crack right on his back we rode out to a multi-million dollar

we rode out to a multi-million dollar

we rode out to a multi-million dollar company at the age of 19 I was making

company at the age of 19 I was making

company at the age of 19 I was making over two million dollars a year 23 I was

over two million dollars a year 23 I was

over two million dollars a year 23 I was charged with one of the largest drug

charged with one of the largest drug

charged with one of the largest drug delivery services in New York City he

delivery services in New York City he

delivery services in New York City he charged as a kingpin went into prison

charged as a kingpin went into prison

charged as a kingpin went into prison the doctors told me that cholesterol

the doctors told me that cholesterol

the doctors told me that cholesterol levels was so bad that I could have died

levels was so bad that I could have died

levels was so bad that I could have died within five years I was sentenced to

within five years I was sentenced to

within five years I was sentenced to seven years in prison and I said I was

seven years in prison and I said I was

seven years in prison and I said I was not gonna die in prison I started doing

not gonna die in prison I started doing

not gonna die in prison I started doing push-ups dips with the limited space

push-ups dips with the limited space

push-ups dips with the limited space that I had and began moving

in lost 70 pounds in six months I caught

in lost 70 pounds in six months I caught the eyes from other image helped over 20

the eyes from other image helped over 20

the eyes from other image helped over 20 M and Sue’s over a thousand pounds

M and Sue’s over a thousand pounds

M and Sue’s over a thousand pounds combined and I came up with the idea

combined and I came up with the idea

combined and I came up with the idea while I was in solitary confinement and

while I was in solitary confinement and

while I was in solitary confinement and I wanted to create something special and

I wanted to create something special and

I wanted to create something special and different so I came up with calm body

different so I came up with calm body

different so I came up with calm body today we hire four men incarcerated

today we hire four men incarcerated

today we hire four men incarcerated individuals I felt the same pain coming

individuals I felt the same pain coming

individuals I felt the same pain coming home I couldn’t find a job everybody was

home I couldn’t find a job everybody was

home I couldn’t find a job everybody was shutting the door behind me because of

shutting the door behind me because of

shutting the door behind me because of my record giving them an opportunity and

my record giving them an opportunity and

my record giving them an opportunity and a second chance started calm body and

a second chance started calm body and

a second chance started calm body and now it’s taken off I want to help as

now it’s taken off I want to help as

now it’s taken off I want to help as many formerly incarcerated people as

many formerly incarcerated people as

many formerly incarcerated people as possible and give them a second chance

possible and give them a second chance

possible and give them a second chance so sign up and join us come to the time

so sign up and join us come to the time

so sign up and join us come to the time peace

thank you we felt costs raised $250,000

thank you we felt costs raised $250,000 and he has 14,000 customers and this

and he has 14,000 customers and this

and he has 14,000 customers and this year alone now we have served 2,500 IITs

year alone now we have served 2,500 IITs

year alone now we have served 2,500 IITs that sends for entrepreneurs in training

that sends for entrepreneurs in training

that sends for entrepreneurs in training what we call our people and our vision

what we call our people and our vision

what we call our people and our vision is highly scalable we rolled out in 30

is highly scalable we rolled out in 30

is highly scalable we rolled out in 30 prisons all over the country and I just

prisons all over the country and I just

prisons all over the country and I just recently turned 40 and this morning I

recently turned 40 and this morning I

recently turned 40 and this morning I actually found out that I was given the

actually found out that I was given the

actually found out that I was given the Forbes 40 over 40 award not sure how I

Forbes 40 over 40 award not sure how I

Forbes 40 over 40 award not sure how I feel about that but anyway by the age of

feel about that but anyway by the age of

feel about that but anyway by the age of 53 I have plans to roll out defy in

53 I have plans to roll out defy in

53 I have plans to roll out defy in every major prison in America and also

every major prison in America and also

every major prison in America and also provide post release services everywhere

provide post release services everywhere

provide post release services everywhere and since I know that some of the TEDx

and since I know that some of the TEDx

and since I know that some of the TEDx audience is international here’s a photo

audience is international here’s a photo

audience is international here’s a photo of defy where global ich in Kenya where

of defy where global ich in Kenya where

of defy where global ich in Kenya where we’ve served in three prisons and what

we’ve served in three prisons and what

we’ve served in three prisons and what keeps me up at night this right here is

keeps me up at night this right here is

keeps me up at night this right here is a photo of women that I met in a

a photo of women that I met in a

a photo of women that I met in a Brazilian prison we’re not serving there

Brazilian prison we’re not serving there

Brazilian prison we’re not serving there yet

yet

yet they’re incarcerated there with their

they’re incarcerated there with their

they’re incarcerated there with their babies and they said to me please don’t

babies and they said to me please don’t

babies and they said to me please don’t forget about me and I haven’t and nearly

forget about me and I haven’t and nearly

forget about me and I haven’t and nearly every prison that I walk into I met with

every prison that I walk into I met with

every prison that I walk into I met with people who say did you get my letters

people who say did you get my letters

people who say did you get my letters I’ve been praying every day for a second

I’ve been praying every day for a second

I’ve been praying every day for a second chance for an opportunity like this and

chance for an opportunity like this and

chance for an opportunity like this and we have long wait lists to serve these

we have long wait lists to serve these

we have long wait lists to serve these people who want nothing more than a

people who want nothing more than a

people who want nothing more than a second chance I need some help sometimes

second chance I need some help sometimes

second chance I need some help sometimes when people hear this message they say

when people hear this message they say

when people hear this message they say I’m so inspired how am i great inspired

I’m so inspired how am i great inspired

I’m so inspired how am i great inspired to do what so I’m about to try to close

to do what so I’m about to try to close

to do what so I’m about to try to close you so please whip out your cell phones

you so please whip out your cell phones

you so please whip out your cell phones because you won’t want to miss out if

because you won’t want to miss out if

because you won’t want to miss out if you choose to come to prison with me you

you choose to come to prison with me you

you choose to come to prison with me you will be met by the warmest audience of

will be met by the warmest audience of

will be met by the warmest audience of budding entrepreneurs who have so much

budding entrepreneurs who have so much

budding entrepreneurs who have so much energy and excitement for their new

energy and excitement for their new

energy and excitement for their new futures where sometimes even a little

futures where sometimes even a little

futures where sometimes even a little hip certainly unconventional and I would

hip certainly unconventional and I would

hip certainly unconventional and I would love for you to come so we’re gonna do

love for you to come so we’re gonna do

love for you to come so we’re gonna do another raise your hand thing get your

another raise your hand thing get your

another raise your hand thing get your answer in your head right now because

answer in your head right now because

answer in your head right now because I’m about to ask you are you gonna do

I’m about to ask you are you gonna do

I’m about to ask you are you gonna do nothing are you gonna do something if I

nothing are you gonna do something if I

nothing are you gonna do something if I give you a choice to do something that

give you a choice to do something that

give you a choice to do something that you are perfectly capable of doing are

you are perfectly capable of doing are

you are perfectly capable of doing are you gonna say yes all those of you who

you gonna say yes all those of you who

you gonna say yes all those of you who are gonna do absolutely nothing after

are gonna do absolutely nothing after

are gonna do absolutely nothing after hearing

hearing

hearing this raise your hand right now the power

this raise your hand right now the power

this raise your hand right now the power of fear pressure all right then on the

of fear pressure all right then on the

of fear pressure all right then on the flipside all those of you if I give you

flipside all those of you if I give you

flipside all those of you if I give you an option to do something that you’re

an option to do something that you’re

an option to do something that you’re capable of doing how many of you are

capable of doing how many of you are

capable of doing how many of you are gonna consider saying yes raise your

gonna consider saying yes raise your

gonna consider saying yes raise your hands no alligator arms hold them up I

hands no alligator arms hold them up I

hands no alligator arms hold them up I look around because that’s why I’m here

look around because that’s why I’m here

look around because that’s why I’m here and see the difference that we can make

and see the difference that we can make

and see the difference that we can make here through TEDx San Francisco alone

here through TEDx San Francisco alone

here through TEDx San Francisco alone I’m really grateful for that so here’s

I’m really grateful for that so here’s

I’m really grateful for that so here’s your menu please whip out your cell

your menu please whip out your cell

your menu please whip out your cell phone you can come to prison with me or

phone you can come to prison with me or

phone you can come to prison with me or you can provide a scholarship one

you can provide a scholarship one

you can provide a scholarship one scholarship is $500 and if you provide

scholarship is $500 and if you provide

scholarship is $500 and if you provide an opportunity to one person it will

an opportunity to one person it will

an opportunity to one person it will result in this what Andrew said the

result in this what Andrew said the

result in this what Andrew said the feeling was unexplainable to be able to

feeling was unexplainable to be able to

feeling was unexplainable to be able to dance with my son on that stage he still

dance with my son on that stage he still

dance with my son on that stage he still talks about it to this day how he was

talks about it to this day how he was

talks about it to this day how he was able to hug me lots of times

able to hug me lots of times

able to hug me lots of times thank you for helping me better myself

thank you for helping me better myself

thank you for helping me better myself teaching me to become an entrepreneur

teaching me to become an entrepreneur

teaching me to become an entrepreneur and reuniting me with my family my name

and reuniting me with my family my name

and reuniting me with my family my name is Kat Hoch see hope conveniently choked

is Kat Hoch see hope conveniently choked

is Kat Hoch see hope conveniently choked I actually do i I do Brazilian Jujitsu

I actually do i I do Brazilian Jujitsu

I actually do i I do Brazilian Jujitsu for fun so you’ll remember choke at de 5

for fun so you’ll remember choke at de 5

for fun so you’ll remember choke at de 5 entries org and just write I’m in and

entries org and just write I’m in and

entries org and just write I’m in and then tell me what you’re in for tell me

then tell me what you’re in for tell me

then tell me what you’re in for tell me how many scholarships you can give

how many scholarships you can give

how many scholarships you can give because some of you can do more than one

because some of you can do more than one

because some of you can do more than one and come to prison and I will tell you

and come to prison and I will tell you

and come to prison and I will tell you that I live for the day when I hear from

that I live for the day when I hear from

that I live for the day when I hear from our defi kids I want to be just like my

our defi kids I want to be just like my

our defi kids I want to be just like my daddy I’m gonna take over the family

daddy I’m gonna take over the family

daddy I’m gonna take over the family business one day thank you very much

business one day thank you very much

business one day thank you very much [Applause]

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