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The Power of Interviewing | Neenah Ellis | TEDxDayton


I want to tell you about a power we have

I want to tell you about a power we have to make deep connections with other

to make deep connections with other

to make deep connections with other people that can change our lives

people that can change our lives

people that can change our lives connections that can teach us about

connections that can teach us about

connections that can teach us about ourselves and each other

ourselves and each other

ourselves and each other we need connections but we’re so often

we need connections but we’re so often

we need connections but we’re so often disconnected from each other we don’t

disconnected from each other we don’t

disconnected from each other we don’t always live near our families anymore

always live near our families anymore

always live near our families anymore and even if we do we don’t have time to

and even if we do we don’t have time to

and even if we do we don’t have time to get together so we use these tiny lines

get together so we use these tiny lines

get together so we use these tiny lines of text to connect us that’s not good

of text to connect us that’s not good

of text to connect us that’s not good enough there’s a better way to make a

enough there’s a better way to make a

enough there’s a better way to make a connection with other people than by

connection with other people than by

connection with other people than by using an app it’s called interviewing

using an app it’s called interviewing

using an app it’s called interviewing and it happens face-to-face I’m gonna

and it happens face-to-face I’m gonna

and it happens face-to-face I’m gonna teach you how to do it but first I want

teach you how to do it but first I want

teach you how to do it but first I want to tell you what you can learn by

to tell you what you can learn by

to tell you what you can learn by interviewing a stranger I’ve been a

interviewing a stranger I’ve been a

interviewing a stranger I’ve been a radio journalist almost my whole life

radio journalist almost my whole life

radio journalist almost my whole life and in the year 2000 I decided to

and in the year 2000 I decided to

and in the year 2000 I decided to interview 25 people who were over the

interview 25 people who were over the

interview 25 people who were over the age of 100 I thought I knew a few things

age of 100 I thought I knew a few things

age of 100 I thought I knew a few things about interviewing these people’s lives

about interviewing these people’s lives

about interviewing these people’s lives had spanned the entire 20th century so

had spanned the entire 20th century so

had spanned the entire 20th century so in order to get ready

in order to get ready

in order to get ready I made these huge long lists of

I made these huge long lists of

I made these huge long lists of questions that dealt with all the major

questions that dealt with all the major

questions that dealt with all the major historical events of the 20th century

historical events of the 20th century

historical events of the 20th century but those people surprised me they were

but those people surprised me they were

but those people surprised me they were way more interested in the future than

way more interested in the future than

way more interested in the future than they were in the past one of them was

they were in the past one of them was

they were in the past one of them was still teaching law one was still driving

that was one guy who was desperate to

that was one guy who was desperate to get married and then there was this

get married and then there was this

get married and then there was this beautiful woman who had dyed her hair

beautiful woman who had dyed her hair

beautiful woman who had dyed her hair bright red and every morning she went

bright red and every morning she went

bright red and every morning she went down to the lake behind her house and

down to the lake behind her house and

down to the lake behind her house and she rode her boat her name was Anna will

soon after I started interviewing Anne I

soon after I started interviewing Anne I had to throw out my long list of

had to throw out my long list of

had to throw out my long list of questions because what I really wanted

questions because what I really wanted

questions because what I really wanted to know was what gave her life so much

to know was what gave her life so much

to know was what gave her life so much meaning and the answer had to do with

meaning and the answer had to do with

meaning and the answer had to do with her sense of place

her sense of place

her sense of place she loved her neighbors her house her

she loved her neighbors her house her

she loved her neighbors her house her lake she loved to be outside where she

lake she loved to be outside where she

lake she loved to be outside where she could row her boat and swim and just sit

could row her boat and swim and just sit

could row her boat and swim and just sit under the trees and I realized pretty

under the trees and I realized pretty

under the trees and I realized pretty soon that Anna’s truth is my truth I

soon that Anna’s truth is my truth I

soon that Anna’s truth is my truth I love trees

love trees

love trees I love lakes I love to swim outside I’ve

I love lakes I love to swim outside I’ve

I love lakes I love to swim outside I’ve even been known to skinny-dip

so what did I learn by interviewing a

so what did I learn by interviewing a hundred year old woman who until that

hundred year old woman who until that

hundred year old woman who until that day had been a complete stranger to me

day had been a complete stranger to me

day had been a complete stranger to me well I made a friend who I visited for

well I made a friend who I visited for

well I made a friend who I visited for several years and I got a glimpse of

several years and I got a glimpse of

several years and I got a glimpse of myself at age 100 and now I have an an

myself at age 100 and now I have an an

myself at age 100 and now I have an an image of me as a very old lady that

image of me as a very old lady that

image of me as a very old lady that thrills me you don’t have to be a

thrills me you don’t have to be a

thrills me you don’t have to be a journalist to use interviewing skills in

journalist to use interviewing skills in

journalist to use interviewing skills in our daily lives we all ask questions we

our daily lives we all ask questions we

our daily lives we all ask questions we all make assessments we all reach

all make assessments we all reach

all make assessments we all reach conclusions it’s not quite the same as

conclusions it’s not quite the same as

conclusions it’s not quite the same as interviewing an interview is a

interviewing an interview is a

interviewing an interview is a conversation with intention it’s not a

conversation with intention it’s not a

conversation with intention it’s not a casual chitchat okay in my job at the

casual chitchat okay in my job at the

casual chitchat okay in my job at the public radio station I am very lucky to

public radio station I am very lucky to

public radio station I am very lucky to get to teach what I love and I teach

get to teach what I love and I teach

get to teach what I love and I teach community members who are not

community members who are not

community members who are not journalists to do interviews and we put

journalists to do interviews and we put

journalists to do interviews and we put those interviews on the radio among the

those interviews on the radio among the

those interviews on the radio among the most interesting or what I call

most interesting or what I call

most interesting or what I call peer-to-peer interviews between people

peer-to-peer interviews between people

peer-to-peer interviews between people who have a shared experience because

who have a shared experience because

who have a shared experience because there’s already a trust there for

there’s already a trust there for

there’s already a trust there for example we have a project called

example we have a project called

example we have a project called veterans voices

veterans voices

veterans voices well we train military veterans to

well we train military veterans to

well we train military veterans to interview each other we put them on the

interview each other we put them on the

interview each other we put them on the radio I’m going to play a little clip

radio I’m going to play a little clip

radio I’m going to play a little clip now of an interview between two veterans

now of an interview between two veterans

now of an interview between two veterans and what they’re talking about is what

and what they’re talking about is what

and what they’re talking about is what it’s like to see their young children

it’s like to see their young children

it’s like to see their young children again after a long deployment

when I landed my daughter literally

when I landed my daughter literally didn’t even seem to recognize me or to

didn’t even seem to recognize me or to

didn’t even seem to recognize me or to like I I wouldn’t say there was nothing

like I I wouldn’t say there was nothing

like I I wouldn’t say there was nothing to her but really she’s just we we got

to her but really she’s just we we got

to her but really she’s just we we got in the car and I looked back you know it

in the car and I looked back you know it

in the car and I looked back you know it and I tried to you know connect with her

and I tried to you know connect with her

and I tried to you know connect with her and she was just kind of like who are

and she was just kind of like who are

and she was just kind of like who are you we also trained a group of

you we also trained a group of

you we also trained a group of incarcerated women from the Dayton

incarcerated women from the Dayton

incarcerated women from the Dayton Correctional Institution to interview

Correctional Institution to interview

Correctional Institution to interview each other and those interviews went

each other and those interviews went

each other and those interviews went very deep very fast because as those

very deep very fast because as those

very deep very fast because as those women had so much empathy for each other

women had so much empathy for each other

women had so much empathy for each other you can go to Timbuktu trying to get

you can go to Timbuktu trying to get

you can go to Timbuktu trying to get away from drugs if you want it your body

away from drugs if you want it your body

away from drugs if you want it your body got an itch for it you can find it and I

got an itch for it you can find it and I

got an itch for it you can find it and I moved to Columbus Ohio gotta look each

moved to Columbus Ohio gotta look each

moved to Columbus Ohio gotta look each for one day right around the corner and

for one day right around the corner and

for one day right around the corner and from there you know my life kind of

from there you know my life kind of

from there you know my life kind of spiraled out of control again so you’re

spiraled out of control again so you’re

spiraled out of control again so you’re hearing DC onion present mana for my

hearing DC onion present mana for my

hearing DC onion present mana for my understanding which is a touchy subject

understanding which is a touchy subject

understanding which is a touchy subject for anyone that knows you because so

for anyone that knows you because so

for anyone that knows you because so many people love you you have life

many people love you you have life

many people love you you have life without parole am I correct yes

without parole am I correct yes

without parole am I correct yes yes I see these women felt safe with

yes I see these women felt safe with

yes I see these women felt safe with each other

each other

each other safer than they would have I think than

safer than they would have I think than

safer than they would have I think than if they’d been interviewed by a stranger

if they’d been interviewed by a stranger

if they’d been interviewed by a stranger who might judge them I think it would be

who might judge them I think it would be

who might judge them I think it would be absolutely amazing if we heard more of

absolutely amazing if we heard more of

absolutely amazing if we heard more of these peer-to-peer interviews on the

these peer-to-peer interviews on the

these peer-to-peer interviews on the radio and on television too we all have

radio and on television too we all have

radio and on television too we all have so much to learn I think we’d see each

so much to learn I think we’d see each

so much to learn I think we’d see each other so much more clearly we’d

other so much more clearly we’d

other so much more clearly we’d understand each other so much better

understand each other so much better

understand each other so much better so do you know yet who you’re gonna

so do you know yet who you’re gonna

so do you know yet who you’re gonna interview I would recommend that you

interview I would recommend that you

interview I would recommend that you start with a family member because

start with a family member because

start with a family member because interviews with loved ones can be the

interviews with loved ones can be the

interviews with loved ones can be the most fulfilling of all and here’s how

most fulfilling of all and here’s how

most fulfilling of all and here’s how you do it it’s very easy number one

you do it it’s very easy number one

you do it it’s very easy number one think about what you want to know write

think about what you want to know write

think about what you want to know write down some questions

number two tell that person you know

number two tell that person you know this isn’t gonna be a casual interview I

this isn’t gonna be a casual interview I

this isn’t gonna be a casual interview I want to know the story of your life

want to know the story of your life

want to know the story of your life number three create a quiet place no

number three create a quiet place no

number three create a quiet place no telephone no TV and no other people for

telephone no TV and no other people for

telephone no TV and no other people for sure

sure

sure number four start slow and ask them to

number four start slow and ask them to

number four start slow and ask them to tell you stories say something like tell

tell you stories say something like tell

tell you stories say something like tell me about your first day of school and

me about your first day of school and

me about your first day of school and number five when that person starts

number five when that person starts

number five when that person starts talking you sit perfectly still

talking you sit perfectly still

talking you sit perfectly still just listen make eye contact give that

just listen make eye contact give that

just listen make eye contact give that person the gift of your full attention

person the gift of your full attention

person the gift of your full attention and when you do that very slowly

and when you do that very slowly

and when you do that very slowly something deep and powerful is gonna

something deep and powerful is gonna

something deep and powerful is gonna happen to you I’ve been interviewing my

happen to you I’ve been interviewing my

happen to you I’ve been interviewing my dad for several years he’s 88

dad for several years he’s 88

dad for several years he’s 88 he’s also been a radio producer most of

he’s also been a radio producer most of

he’s also been a radio producer most of his life and he’s a great storyteller a

his life and he’s a great storyteller a

his life and he’s a great storyteller a great storyteller so we’ve been

great storyteller so we’ve been

great storyteller so we’ve been documenting his life when my dad and I

documenting his life when my dad and I

documenting his life when my dad and I sit down on his couch and start our

sit down on his couch and start our

sit down on his couch and start our interviews that deep and powerful thing

interviews that deep and powerful thing

interviews that deep and powerful thing happens to us every single time the room

happens to us every single time the room

happens to us every single time the room drops away time stands still it’s as if

drops away time stands still it’s as if

drops away time stands still it’s as if we’re stepping into another dimension

we’re stepping into another dimension

we’re stepping into another dimension and my dad starts to remember things

and my dad starts to remember things

and my dad starts to remember things that he hasn’t thought of in years in

that he hasn’t thought of in years in

that he hasn’t thought of in years in years I want to tell you about what

years I want to tell you about what

years I want to tell you about what science calls limbic resonance which

science calls limbic resonance which

science calls limbic resonance which explains that phenomenon okay because

explains that phenomenon okay because

explains that phenomenon okay because we’re mammals we have this region in our

we’re mammals we have this region in our

we’re mammals we have this region in our brain called the limbic region where

brain called the limbic region where

brain called the limbic region where emotions reside and with time and

emotions reside and with time and

emotions reside and with time and proximity we begin to feel each other’s

proximity we begin to feel each other’s

proximity we begin to feel each other’s emotional state

emotional state

emotional state it’s a real sensory experience just like

it’s a real sensory experience just like

it’s a real sensory experience just like seeing or hearing only nobody much talks

seeing or hearing only nobody much talks

seeing or hearing only nobody much talks about it and they sure don’t teach you

about it and they sure don’t teach you

about it and they sure don’t teach you how to do it but you follow these five

how to do it but you follow these five

how to do it but you follow these five steps and you’re gonna be on your way

steps and you’re gonna be on your way

steps and you’re gonna be on your way and limbic resonance feels great it

and limbic resonance feels great it

and limbic resonance feels great it might be the best feeling the best

might be the best feeling the best

might be the best feeling the best feeling I think there’s nothing that

feeling I think there’s nothing that

feeling I think there’s nothing that people want more and to spend time with

people want more and to spend time with

people want more and to spend time with people they care about

people they care about

people they care about and feel that deep connection remember I

and feel that deep connection remember I

and feel that deep connection remember I said that that connection can change

said that that connection can change

said that that connection can change your life I want to tell you about some

your life I want to tell you about some

your life I want to tell you about some aha moments that I’ve had with my dad in

aha moments that I’ve had with my dad in

aha moments that I’ve had with my dad in 1959 my dad got fired

1959 my dad got fired

1959 my dad got fired he poured all of his anger and

he poured all of his anger and

he poured all of his anger and frustration into building a beautiful

frustration into building a beautiful

frustration into building a beautiful tree house for us kids we loved that

tree house for us kids we loved that

tree house for us kids we loved that tree house and I used to think about

tree house and I used to think about

tree house and I used to think about that oak tree as if for another human

that oak tree as if for another human

that oak tree as if for another human being and when my dad told me that story

being and when my dad told me that story

being and when my dad told me that story I thought AHA that’s where I got my love

I thought AHA that’s where I got my love

I thought AHA that’s where I got my love for trees another story my dad grew up

for trees another story my dad grew up

for trees another story my dad grew up on the south side of Chicago in the

on the south side of Chicago in the

on the south side of Chicago in the great depression in an immigrant

great depression in an immigrant

great depression in an immigrant neighborhood and when it got really hot

neighborhood and when it got really hot

neighborhood and when it got really hot outside they would all get on the

outside they would all get on the

outside they would all get on the streetcar and they’d go down to Lake

streetcar and they’d go down to Lake

streetcar and they’d go down to Lake Michigan and the women would lay out

Michigan and the women would lay out

Michigan and the women would lay out food and the men would tell stories

food and the men would tell stories

food and the men would tell stories about the old country and when the Sun

about the old country and when the Sun

about the old country and when the Sun went down they would all sleep on the

went down they would all sleep on the

went down they would all sleep on the beach where it was nice and cool and my

beach where it was nice and cool and my

beach where it was nice and cool and my dad loved those evenings by the beach

dad loved those evenings by the beach

dad loved those evenings by the beach and I thought AHA that’s why I got my

and I thought AHA that’s why I got my

and I thought AHA that’s why I got my love of the lake from my dad and then

love of the lake from my dad and then

love of the lake from my dad and then here’s a story I just heard recently all

here’s a story I just heard recently all

here’s a story I just heard recently all my life I never never knew this how my

my life I never never knew this how my

my life I never never knew this how my dad got connected to radio turns out

dad got connected to radio turns out

dad got connected to radio turns out in high school my dad had a choir

in high school my dad had a choir

in high school my dad had a choir teacher who singled him out and said you

teacher who singled him out and said you

teacher who singled him out and said you have a beautiful voice

have a beautiful voice

have a beautiful voice you sound like Bing Crosby and that set

you sound like Bing Crosby and that set

you sound like Bing Crosby and that set my dad on his path this woman whose name

my dad on his path this woman whose name

my dad on his path this woman whose name I don’t know changed my dad’s life and

I don’t know changed my dad’s life and

I don’t know changed my dad’s life and mine there’s nobody but my dad my dear

mine there’s nobody but my dad my dear

mine there’s nobody but my dad my dear dad that could have told me these

dad that could have told me these

dad that could have told me these stories and these stories help me in my

stories and these stories help me in my

stories and these stories help me in my search for Who I am interviewing with an

search for Who I am interviewing with an

search for Who I am interviewing with an open mind and an open heart and deepen

open mind and an open heart and deepen

open mind and an open heart and deepen the love you have for people you already

the love you have for people you already

the love you have for people you already know and bring you close to people that

know and bring you close to people that

know and bring you close to people that you’ve just met interviewing is a

you’ve just met interviewing is a

you’ve just met interviewing is a conversation with intention and when you

conversation with intention and when you

conversation with intention and when you do it right you can know yourself better

do it right you can know yourself better

do it right you can know yourself better and change your life so who are you

and change your life so who are you

and change your life so who are you gonna interview good luck

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