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The Other Side of Mental Health | Daniela Barrio | TEDxJHUSalon


in 2009 my parents received a call that

in 2009 my parents received a call that changed my family’s life forever for

changed my family’s life forever for

changed my family’s life forever for several days my sister had been telling

several days my sister had been telling

several days my sister had been telling us about the wonderful things going on

us about the wonderful things going on

us about the wonderful things going on in her life she was getting great grades

in her life she was getting great grades

in her life she was getting great grades job offers and she’d even picked her art

job offers and she’d even picked her art

job offers and she’d even picked her art back up again but in direct

back up again but in direct

back up again but in direct contradiction to this my parents

contradiction to this my parents

contradiction to this my parents received a call from her then-boyfriend

received a call from her then-boyfriend

received a call from her then-boyfriend and he said I don’t mean to bother you

and he said I don’t mean to bother you

and he said I don’t mean to bother you guys but your daughter’s not doing well

guys but your daughter’s not doing well

guys but your daughter’s not doing well and I think that she needs help what we

and I think that she needs help what we

and I think that she needs help what we thought was my sisters success was

thought was my sisters success was

thought was my sisters success was actually the result of a manic episode

actually the result of a manic episode

actually the result of a manic episode she was diagnosed with bipolar disorder

she was diagnosed with bipolar disorder

she was diagnosed with bipolar disorder in the weeks that followed my parents

in the weeks that followed my parents

in the weeks that followed my parents spent a lot of time going back and forth

spent a lot of time going back and forth

spent a lot of time going back and forth between my home town in Texas and

between my home town in Texas and

between my home town in Texas and Washington DC where my sister was

Washington DC where my sister was

Washington DC where my sister was studying for several weeks my sister had

studying for several weeks my sister had

studying for several weeks my sister had been struggling with fairly serious

been struggling with fairly serious

been struggling with fairly serious solutions she was convinced that she was

solutions she was convinced that she was

solutions she was convinced that she was running for president or that my dad was

running for president or that my dad was

running for president or that my dad was a drug cartel lord or that my mom

a drug cartel lord or that my mom

a drug cartel lord or that my mom suffered from battered wife syndrome

suffered from battered wife syndrome

suffered from battered wife syndrome obviously none of which were true

obviously none of which were true

obviously none of which were true because I was a young teenager at the

because I was a young teenager at the

because I was a young teenager at the time it’s easy to attribute to my young

time it’s easy to attribute to my young

time it’s easy to attribute to my young age that I didn’t know what to do I

age that I didn’t know what to do I

age that I didn’t know what to do I didn’t know what to say and I didn’t

didn’t know what to say and I didn’t

didn’t know what to say and I didn’t know what to how to help but the reality

know what to how to help but the reality

know what to how to help but the reality is that people of all ages feel this way

is that people of all ages feel this way

is that people of all ages feel this way when a loved one is diagnosed with a

when a loved one is diagnosed with a

when a loved one is diagnosed with a mental illness traditionally when we

mental illness traditionally when we

mental illness traditionally when we talk about mental health we focus on the

talk about mental health we focus on the

talk about mental health we focus on the barriers to getting help however I’d

barriers to getting help however I’d

barriers to getting help however I’d like to talk about a different side of

like to talk about a different side of

like to talk about a different side of mental health the barriers to giving

mental health the barriers to giving

mental health the barriers to giving help I want to talk about people like me

help I want to talk about people like me

help I want to talk about people like me and my family when my sister was

and my family when my sister was

and my family when my sister was diagnosed with bipolar disorder my goal

diagnosed with bipolar disorder my goal

diagnosed with bipolar disorder my goal is to give you a different perspective

is to give you a different perspective

is to give you a different perspective on mental health normalize the barriers

on mental health normalize the barriers

on mental health normalize the barriers of giving help and ultimately leave you

of giving help and ultimately leave you

of giving help and ultimately leave you feeling more confident when it comes to

feeling more confident when it comes to

feeling more confident when it comes to helping people in need everything that I

helping people in need everything that I

helping people in need everything that I talked about today is gonna be focused

talked about today is gonna be focused

talked about today is gonna be focused around what I’ve learned when it comes

around what I’ve learned when it comes

around what I’ve learned when it comes to mental illness namely that recovery

to mental illness namely that recovery

to mental illness namely that recovery isn’t black-and-white it’s not simply

isn’t black-and-white it’s not simply

isn’t black-and-white it’s not simply that either you’re getting better or

that either you’re getting better or

that either you’re getting better or you’re getting worse the reality is is

you’re getting worse the reality is is

you’re getting worse the reality is is that there’s a spectrum

that there’s a spectrum

that there’s a spectrum of recovery that comes with different

of recovery that comes with different

of recovery that comes with different stages in public health there’s actually

stages in public health there’s actually

stages in public health there’s actually a behavior change framework that

a behavior change framework that

a behavior change framework that captures this called the

captures this called the

captures this called the transtheoretical model and while I’d

transtheoretical model and while I’d

transtheoretical model and while I’d love to spend the entire talk talking

love to spend the entire talk talking

love to spend the entire talk talking about this model I’m only going to focus

about this model I’m only going to focus

about this model I’m only going to focus on three main stages pre contemplation

on three main stages pre contemplation

on three main stages pre contemplation action and maintenance pre contemplation

action and maintenance pre contemplation

action and maintenance pre contemplation is when a person doesn’t think they have

is when a person doesn’t think they have

is when a person doesn’t think they have a problem or they don’t want to change

a problem or they don’t want to change

a problem or they don’t want to change son mental illness this might look like

son mental illness this might look like

son mental illness this might look like someone who’s sick but they don’t want

someone who’s sick but they don’t want

someone who’s sick but they don’t want to get help the action stage is when

to get help the action stage is when

to get help the action stage is when they’re taking active steps to improve

they’re taking active steps to improve

they’re taking active steps to improve their mental health so that could be by

their mental health so that could be by

their mental health so that could be by going to therapy trying medications or

going to therapy trying medications or

going to therapy trying medications or any other means the maintenance stage is

any other means the maintenance stage is

any other means the maintenance stage is when you take steps to maintain the

when you take steps to maintain the

when you take steps to maintain the benefits that you got from the action

benefits that you got from the action

benefits that you got from the action stage it’s important to know that these

stage it’s important to know that these

stage it’s important to know that these different stages aren’t discrete and

different stages aren’t discrete and

different stages aren’t discrete and generally people move throughout them in

generally people move throughout them in

generally people move throughout them in their behavior change journey more

their behavior change journey more

their behavior change journey more importantly these different stages come

importantly these different stages come

importantly these different stages come with different barriers in the case of

with different barriers in the case of

with different barriers in the case of my sister my family had to help remove

my sister my family had to help remove

my sister my family had to help remove through the entire process of recovery

through the entire process of recovery

through the entire process of recovery when my parents received that call it

when my parents received that call it

when my parents received that call it was the first time ever that my sister

was the first time ever that my sister

was the first time ever that my sister had dealt with bipolar disorder and the

had dealt with bipolar disorder and the

had dealt with bipolar disorder and the fact of the matter is is that mania

fact of the matter is is that mania

fact of the matter is is that mania feels really good so my sister didn’t

feels really good so my sister didn’t

feels really good so my sister didn’t want to change the only solution to get

want to change the only solution to get

want to change the only solution to get her to start recovering was for her to

her to start recovering was for her to

her to start recovering was for her to be hospitalized

be hospitalized

be hospitalized so was after this that I could start

so was after this that I could start

so was after this that I could start helping her and I can attest to the fact

helping her and I can attest to the fact

helping her and I can attest to the fact that depending on where she was in her

that depending on where she was in her

that depending on where she was in her recovery I experienced different

recovery I experienced different

recovery I experienced different barriers at first we focused a lot on

barriers at first we focused a lot on

barriers at first we focused a lot on simply getting her to take her

simply getting her to take her

simply getting her to take her medication but later we dealt with more

medication but later we dealt with more

medication but later we dealt with more complex issues such as the fact that her

complex issues such as the fact that her

complex issues such as the fact that her family dynamics had changed simply

family dynamics had changed simply

family dynamics had changed simply because of her diagnosis the experiences

because of her diagnosis the experiences

because of her diagnosis the experiences with my sister was the first time that

with my sister was the first time that

with my sister was the first time that I’d ever been personally and deeply

I’d ever been personally and deeply

I’d ever been personally and deeply impacted by mental illness since then

impacted by mental illness since then

impacted by mental illness since then I’ve started to think about mental

I’ve started to think about mental

I’ve started to think about mental health recovery as a spectrum with

health recovery as a spectrum with

health recovery as a spectrum with different stages and it’s helped me in

different stages and it’s helped me in

different stages and it’s helped me in other instances when loved ones have

other instances when loved ones have

other instances when loved ones have been impacted by mental illness when I

been impacted by mental illness when I

been impacted by mental illness when I was 16 my then-boyfriend was arrested on

was 16 my then-boyfriend was arrested on

was 16 my then-boyfriend was arrested on account of a fairly serious crime and

account of a fairly serious crime and

account of a fairly serious crime and given the sensitive ages of high school

given the sensitive ages of high school

given the sensitive ages of high school I wasn’t allowed to see him and

I wasn’t allowed to see him and

I wasn’t allowed to see him and I turned 18 during that time he

I turned 18 during that time he

I turned 18 during that time he developed fairly serious depression with

developed fairly serious depression with

developed fairly serious depression with suicidal ideation and because of mutual

suicidal ideation and because of mutual

suicidal ideation and because of mutual family friends I was actually aware of

family friends I was actually aware of

family friends I was actually aware of this so before I saw him I prepared

this so before I saw him I prepared

this so before I saw him I prepared myself to deal with someone with serious

myself to deal with someone with serious

myself to deal with someone with serious depression but more accurately I

depression but more accurately I

depression but more accurately I prepared myself to deal with what I

prepared myself to deal with what I

prepared myself to deal with what I thought it would look like what I didn’t

thought it would look like what I didn’t

thought it would look like what I didn’t expect was how normal for it to look so

expect was how normal for it to look so

expect was how normal for it to look so many of our first and subsequent

many of our first and subsequent

many of our first and subsequent interactions were almost unsettlingly

interactions were almost unsettlingly

interactions were almost unsettlingly normal because in so many ways Jose was

normal because in so many ways Jose was

normal because in so many ways Jose was still Jose and despite this normalcy

still Jose and despite this normalcy

still Jose and despite this normalcy eventually the dark thoughts of

eventually the dark thoughts of

eventually the dark thoughts of depression and suicide bled through I

depression and suicide bled through I

depression and suicide bled through I quickly realized that a lot of his life

quickly realized that a lot of his life

quickly realized that a lot of his life was put on hold waiting for me and he

was put on hold waiting for me and he

was put on hold waiting for me and he didn’t want to move forward and he

didn’t want to move forward and he

didn’t want to move forward and he didn’t want to move on and I think he

didn’t want to move on and I think he

didn’t want to move on and I think he even put on hold his suicide when we met

even put on hold his suicide when we met

even put on hold his suicide when we met together again he would tell me that a

together again he would tell me that a

together again he would tell me that a lot of the details of how he would do it

lot of the details of how he would do it

lot of the details of how he would do it and how often he thought about it and

and how often he thought about it and

and how often he thought about it and whether or not he intended to place this

whether or not he intended to place this

whether or not he intended to place this burden on me he told me this is what I

burden on me he told me this is what I

burden on me he told me this is what I think about when you’re not around and I

think about when you’re not around and I

think about when you’re not around and I don’t know what I’d do without you

don’t know what I’d do without you

don’t know what I’d do without you and I don’t have a future that’s really

and I don’t have a future that’s really

and I don’t have a future that’s really heavy for an 18 year old to be dealing

heavy for an 18 year old to be dealing

heavy for an 18 year old to be dealing with and unlike my sister who had begun

with and unlike my sister who had begun

with and unlike my sister who had begun moving through the stages of recovery

moving through the stages of recovery

moving through the stages of recovery Holle said didn’t think there was a

Holle said didn’t think there was a

Holle said didn’t think there was a problem with the way that he was

problem with the way that he was

problem with the way that he was thinking so the biggest barrier that I

thinking so the biggest barrier that I

thinking so the biggest barrier that I experienced was learning to help someone

experienced was learning to help someone

experienced was learning to help someone who didn’t want to help themselves at

who didn’t want to help themselves at

who didn’t want to help themselves at this point I’d like to make clear that a

this point I’d like to make clear that a

this point I’d like to make clear that a diagnosis doesn’t necessarily determine

diagnosis doesn’t necessarily determine

diagnosis doesn’t necessarily determine the barriers that you’ll experience so

the barriers that you’ll experience so

the barriers that you’ll experience so I’d like to talk about another story of

I’d like to talk about another story of

I’d like to talk about another story of mine one of my close friends like many

mine one of my close friends like many

mine one of my close friends like many people suffers from anxiety and like

people suffers from anxiety and like

people suffers from anxiety and like Jose depression and if you met her today

Jose depression and if you met her today

Jose depression and if you met her today you wouldn’t even notice she’s one of

you wouldn’t even notice she’s one of

you wouldn’t even notice she’s one of the funniest most hard-working and

the funniest most hard-working and

the funniest most hard-working and ambitious people that I’ve ever met and

ambitious people that I’ve ever met and

ambitious people that I’ve ever met and while I can attest to the fact that

while I can attest to the fact that

while I can attest to the fact that she’s always been this way I can also

she’s always been this way I can also

she’s always been this way I can also attest to the fact that her journey with

attest to the fact that her journey with

attest to the fact that her journey with depression and anxiety has been a

depression and anxiety has been a

depression and anxiety has been a challenging one growing up Lucy and I

challenging one growing up Lucy and I

challenging one growing up Lucy and I used to tell each other everything

used to tell each other everything

used to tell each other everything so was it until many

so was it until many

so was it until many into our relationship when she suddenly

into our relationship when she suddenly

into our relationship when she suddenly told me we need to talk so it was in her

told me we need to talk so it was in her

told me we need to talk so it was in her bedroom on her bed when she started

bedroom on her bed when she started

bedroom on her bed when she started telling me about the kinds of things

telling me about the kinds of things

telling me about the kinds of things that she thought about and at the time I

that she thought about and at the time I

that she thought about and at the time I couldn’t help but think like I already

couldn’t help but think like I already

couldn’t help but think like I already know this we’re best friends the whole

know this we’re best friends the whole

know this we’re best friends the whole point is that we think alike but it was

point is that we think alike but it was

point is that we think alike but it was through tears that she started telling

through tears that she started telling

through tears that she started telling me the reality of her thoughts she told

me the reality of her thoughts she told

me the reality of her thoughts she told me do you ever just drive a car and

me do you ever just drive a car and

me do you ever just drive a car and think about veering it off the road or

think about veering it off the road or

think about veering it off the road or do you ever look at your parents pills

do you ever look at your parents pills

do you ever look at your parents pills and just think about taking all of them

and just think about taking all of them

and just think about taking all of them and I realized that I don’t think like

and I realized that I don’t think like

and I realized that I don’t think like that

that

that in fact in this moment when it was my

in fact in this moment when it was my

in fact in this moment when it was my role to make her feel better I vividly

role to make her feel better I vividly

role to make her feel better I vividly remembered that she asked me if I was

remembered that she asked me if I was

remembered that she asked me if I was okay because despite the depression and

okay because despite the depression and

okay because despite the depression and anxiety Lucy who was still Lucy in the

anxiety Lucy who was still Lucy in the

anxiety Lucy who was still Lucy in the year that followed me and a handful of

year that followed me and a handful of

year that followed me and a handful of other friends were around to see her

other friends were around to see her

other friends were around to see her start treatment start college and get to

start treatment start college and get to

start treatment start college and get to the point where depression and anxiety

the point where depression and anxiety

the point where depression and anxiety no longer ruled her life but in the same

no longer ruled her life but in the same

no longer ruled her life but in the same way that I got to see her recover I was

way that I got to see her recover I was

way that I got to see her recover I was also around to see her relapse and

also around to see her relapse and

also around to see her relapse and that’s what the barriers began when

that’s what the barriers began when

that’s what the barriers began when someone has a history of anxiety and

someone has a history of anxiety and

someone has a history of anxiety and depression the line between healthy

depression the line between healthy

depression the line between healthy stress and pathological distress becomes

stress and pathological distress becomes

stress and pathological distress becomes blurred so the biggest challenge I faced

blurred so the biggest challenge I faced

blurred so the biggest challenge I faced was learning to recognize the signs of

was learning to recognize the signs of

was learning to recognize the signs of relapse and figuring out when it was

relapse and figuring out when it was

relapse and figuring out when it was appropriate for me to step in each of

appropriate for me to step in each of

appropriate for me to step in each of these different experiences impacted me

these different experiences impacted me

these different experiences impacted me in different ways with my sister my

in different ways with my sister my

in different ways with my sister my family and I were going through

family and I were going through

family and I were going through something that not a lot of people have

something that not a lot of people have

something that not a lot of people have experienced in the case of Hosea and

experienced in the case of Hosea and

experienced in the case of Hosea and Lucy despite the fact that they had the

Lucy despite the fact that they had the

Lucy despite the fact that they had the same diagnosis it’s clear that it looked

same diagnosis it’s clear that it looked

same diagnosis it’s clear that it looked different and that the help that they

different and that the help that they

different and that the help that they needed was different depending on where

needed was different depending on where

needed was different depending on where they each were in the journey to

they each were in the journey to

they each were in the journey to recovery the barriers that I faced were

recovery the barriers that I faced were

recovery the barriers that I faced were different with my sister my family

different with my sister my family

different with my sister my family ultimately had to focus a lot on relapse

ultimately had to focus a lot on relapse

ultimately had to focus a lot on relapse and getting her to work through the

and getting her to work through the

and getting her to work through the different stages all over again and we

different stages all over again and we

different stages all over again and we had to learn to be patient and to come

had to learn to be patient and to come

had to learn to be patient and to come to terms with the fact that sometimes

to terms with the fact that sometimes

to terms with the fact that sometimes there’s a limit to how much you can help

there’s a limit to how much you can help

there’s a limit to how much you can help with Hossein

with Hossein

with Hossein I struggle to learn how to help someone

I struggle to learn how to help someone

I struggle to learn how to help someone who didn’t want to help themselves and

who didn’t want to help themselves and

who didn’t want to help themselves and with Lucy I had to learn to recognize

with Lucy I had to learn to recognize

with Lucy I had to learn to recognize these signs of relapse and figure out

these signs of relapse and figure out

these signs of relapse and figure out when it was time to step in in the same

when it was time to step in in the same

when it was time to step in in the same way that these different stages come

way that these different stages come

way that these different stages come with different barriers I’ve also come

with different barriers I’ve also come

with different barriers I’ve also come to learn that they come with different

to learn that they come with different

to learn that they come with different solutions for someone who’s in the pre

solutions for someone who’s in the pre

solutions for someone who’s in the pre contemplation stage I’ve learned that

contemplation stage I’ve learned that

contemplation stage I’ve learned that the best and only thing that you can do

the best and only thing that you can do

the best and only thing that you can do is be there to weigh out the pros and

is be there to weigh out the pros and

is be there to weigh out the pros and cons so that the pros of getting help

cons so that the pros of getting help

cons so that the pros of getting help outweigh the cons and depending on you

outweigh the cons and depending on you

outweigh the cons and depending on you and your loved one you can do this in

and your loved one you can do this in

and your loved one you can do this in different ways be it through

different ways be it through

different ways be it through conversation through books or by

conversation through books or by

conversation through books or by providing online resources in the action

providing online resources in the action

providing online resources in the action stage this is what people most

stage this is what people most

stage this is what people most traditionally think about when it comes

traditionally think about when it comes

traditionally think about when it comes to helping mental illness and it’s

to helping mental illness and it’s

to helping mental illness and it’s things like improved diet improved

things like improved diet improved

things like improved diet improved exercise and meditation and mindfulness

exercise and meditation and mindfulness

exercise and meditation and mindfulness skills and what’s important is that you

skills and what’s important is that you

skills and what’s important is that you can suggest these things and be there to

can suggest these things and be there to

can suggest these things and be there to join them in these activities

join them in these activities

join them in these activities additionally you can provide self-care

additionally you can provide self-care

additionally you can provide self-care tips for when they when they are

tips for when they when they are

tips for when they when they are starting to when they’re starting when

starting to when they’re starting when

starting to when they’re starting when they start to experience setbacks in

they start to experience setbacks in

they start to experience setbacks in their treatment you can ultimately be

their treatment you can ultimately be

their treatment you can ultimately be there to tell them that it’s okay to not

there to tell them that it’s okay to not

there to tell them that it’s okay to not be okay the maintenance stage though it

be okay the maintenance stage though it

be okay the maintenance stage though it is the end goal of recovery you can

is the end goal of recovery you can

is the end goal of recovery you can still be there to help by maintaining

still be there to help by maintaining

still be there to help by maintaining vigilance learning the signs of relapse

vigilance learning the signs of relapse

vigilance learning the signs of relapse and opening a healthy line of

and opening a healthy line of

and opening a healthy line of communication so that you can step in if

communication so that you can step in if

communication so that you can step in if you need to all together I hope that my

you need to all together I hope that my

you need to all together I hope that my experiences and talking about the

experiences and talking about the

experiences and talking about the different spectrum of recovery has given

different spectrum of recovery has given

different spectrum of recovery has given you an idea of how to help with mental

you an idea of how to help with mental

you an idea of how to help with mental illness in my case I’ve used the

illness in my case I’ve used the

illness in my case I’ve used the transtheoretical model to conceptualize

transtheoretical model to conceptualize

transtheoretical model to conceptualize this and while you can – it doesn’t have

this and while you can – it doesn’t have

this and while you can – it doesn’t have to serve as a step-by-step guide there’s

to serve as a step-by-step guide there’s

to serve as a step-by-step guide there’s a common theme to everything that I’ve

a common theme to everything that I’ve

a common theme to everything that I’ve talked about today and that’s education

talked about today and that’s education

talked about today and that’s education something that everyone in here can do

something that everyone in here can do

something that everyone in here can do is educate themselves on their loved one

is educate themselves on their loved one

is educate themselves on their loved one and their condition sure it’s easy to

and their condition sure it’s easy to

and their condition sure it’s easy to provide pros and cons like I mentioned

provide pros and cons like I mentioned

provide pros and cons like I mentioned in the precontemplation stage but you

in the precontemplation stage but you

in the precontemplation stage but you can provide the best most holistic

can provide the best most holistic

can provide the best most holistic advice if you’re better informed on

advice if you’re better informed on

advice if you’re better informed on their condition in the action stage you

their condition in the action stage you

their condition in the action stage you can suggest different activities but you

can suggest different activities but you

can suggest different activities but you can suggest the most productive ones if

can suggest the most productive ones if

can suggest the most productive ones if you best know your loved one and their

you best know your loved one and their

you best know your loved one and their condition all together I really do hope

condition all together I really do hope

condition all together I really do hope that these experiences have given you a

that these experiences have given you a

that these experiences have given you a different perspective of mental health

different perspective of mental health

different perspective of mental health and I hope that moving forward you can

and I hope that moving forward you can

and I hope that moving forward you can feel more confident in helping people in

feel more confident in helping people in

feel more confident in helping people in need thank you

need thank you

need thank you [Applause]

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