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I feel like feel like the luckiest guy

I feel like feel like the luckiest guy in Cobalt

in Cobalt

in Cobalt here I stand head of Walt Disney studio

here I stand head of Walt Disney studio

here I stand head of Walt Disney studio for Southeast Asia quite and even as I

for Southeast Asia quite and even as I

for Southeast Asia quite and even as I say it I know two things firstly I can’t

say it I know two things firstly I can’t

say it I know two things firstly I can’t quite believe how I got it and secondly

quite believe how I got it and secondly

quite believe how I got it and secondly most days build pretty cool and people

most days build pretty cool and people

most days build pretty cool and people often ask kindly I think they ask this

often ask kindly I think they ask this

often ask kindly I think they ask this happen what pockets at this point did

happen what pockets at this point did

happen what pockets at this point did you studied film a university or a

you studied film a university or a

you studied film a university or a business or economics accountant and the

business or economics accountant and the

business or economics accountant and the answer is no none of these things when I

answer is no none of these things when I

answer is no none of these things when I say I’m the luckiest guy in the world it

say I’m the luckiest guy in the world it

say I’m the luckiest guy in the world it isn’t exactly exaggeration is half true

isn’t exactly exaggeration is half true

isn’t exactly exaggeration is half true luck is absolutely a part of it and I’ll

luck is absolutely a part of it and I’ll

luck is absolutely a part of it and I’ll bet that if you ask any successful

bet that if you ask any successful

bet that if you ask any successful person out there that’ll likely tell you

person out there that’ll likely tell you

person out there that’ll likely tell you to say this is the other side well those

to say this is the other side well those

to say this is the other side well those of you school or for those of you who

of you school or for those of you who

of you school or for those of you who are long sits graduates with the ability

are long sits graduates with the ability

are long sits graduates with the ability to recognize and to move on what life

to recognize and to move on what life

to recognize and to move on what life throws your way it’s just one of the

throws your way it’s just one of the

throws your way it’s just one of the keys to success that isn’t you won’t

keys to success that isn’t you won’t

keys to success that isn’t you won’t miss it so if I’m in a textbook well

miss it so if I’m in a textbook well

miss it so if I’m in a textbook well that’s not to say that it can’t or more

that’s not to say that it can’t or more

that’s not to say that it can’t or more importantly shouldn’t eat or what we

importantly shouldn’t eat or what we

importantly shouldn’t eat or what we might spend a great deal of our time

might spend a great deal of our time

might spend a great deal of our time money and resource in filling the minds

money and resource in filling the minds

money and resource in filling the minds of our future leaders with facts and

of our future leaders with facts and

of our future leaders with facts and figures than we test to determine how

figures than we test to determine how

figures than we test to determine how well they’re learning

well they’re learning

well they’re learning or I guess more specifically we test the

or I guess more specifically we test the

or I guess more specifically we test the capacity that they have to retain

capacity that they have to retain

capacity that they have to retain knowledge but as a business leader I’m

knowledge but as a business leader I’m

knowledge but as a business leader I’m interested in so much more than that

interested in so much more than that

interested in so much more than that the other side the other side of school

the other side the other side of school

the other side the other side of school the other side of the coin the other

the other side of the coin the other

the other side of the coin the other side of brain the other side of simply

side of brain the other side of simply

side of brain the other side of simply being taught to memorize facts and

being taught to memorize facts and

being taught to memorize facts and figures and ultimately the other side of

figures and ultimately the other side of

figures and ultimately the other side of each of us let’s start simply here’s my

each of us let’s start simply here’s my

each of us let’s start simply here’s my story I went to a state school in the UK

story I went to a state school in the UK

story I went to a state school in the UK did okay got into University took pretty

did okay got into University took pretty

did okay got into University took pretty well then decided to head off and work

well then decided to head off and work

well then decided to head off and work live in Japan where I learned a lot had

live in Japan where I learned a lot had

live in Japan where I learned a lot had a really really good time for a few

a really really good time for a few

a really really good time for a few years but I determined while I was there

years but I determined while I was there

years but I determined while I was there I really wanted to

I really wanted to

I really wanted to in the back to today did it is it really

in the back to today did it is it really

in the back to today did it is it really that simple

that simple

that simple of course it’s not that simple it wasn’t

of course it’s not that simple it wasn’t

of course it’s not that simple it wasn’t these thing every subject that got me to

these thing every subject that got me to

these thing every subject that got me to place up now and I absolutely did a

place up now and I absolutely did a

place up now and I absolutely did a second suspect or incident I didn’t go

second suspect or incident I didn’t go

second suspect or incident I didn’t go to the best university although I urge

to the best university although I urge

to the best university although I urge you to do the best you can to absolutely

you to do the best you can to absolutely

you to do the best you can to absolutely get there because university remains a

get there because university remains a

get there because university remains a gift a gift of an experienced if you use

gift a gift of an experienced if you use

gift a gift of an experienced if you use that use that opportunity wisely I

that use that opportunity wisely I

that use that opportunity wisely I control the business I have no

control the business I have no

control the business I have no vocational qualifications here’s a

vocational qualifications here’s a

vocational qualifications here’s a secret neither to the vast majority of

secret neither to the vast majority of

secret neither to the vast majority of the people I work with I’m talking about

the people I work with I’m talking about

the people I work with I’m talking about my kids I can just lift a quote from the

my kids I can just lift a quote from the

my kids I can just lift a quote from the Liam Neeson film taken weapon film is

Liam Neeson film taken weapon film is

Liam Neeson film taken weapon film is necessarily should what we do have is a

necessarily should what we do have is a

necessarily should what we do have is a very particular set of skills skills

very particular set of skills skills

very particular set of skills skills that we’ve actually goes on to explain

that we’ve actually goes on to explain

that we’ve actually goes on to explain homes can find you and kill you I’m not

homes can find you and kill you I’m not

homes can find you and kill you I’m not going to go there for her today many of

going to go there for her today many of

going to go there for her today many of these skills are shared amongst my peers

these skills are shared amongst my peers

these skills are shared amongst my peers traditionally they’ve been known as soft

traditionally they’ve been known as soft

traditionally they’ve been known as soft skills but this name can be very

skills but this name can be very

skills but this name can be very misleading lightly because I I never

misleading lightly because I I never

misleading lightly because I I never wanted to employ anyone who doesn’t have

wanted to employ anyone who doesn’t have

wanted to employ anyone who doesn’t have more of these than anything else that we

more of these than anything else that we

more of these than anything else that we may regardless for qualifications so

may regardless for qualifications so

may regardless for qualifications so what are they well but simply and this

what are they well but simply and this

what are they well but simply and this isn’t a finite list can be any mix

isn’t a finite list can be any mix

isn’t a finite list can be any mix passion passion

passion passion

passion passion communication collaboration optimism

communication collaboration optimism

communication collaboration optimism inspiration innovation humility Drive

inspiration innovation humility Drive

inspiration innovation humility Drive and perhaps most importantly an ability

and perhaps most importantly an ability

and perhaps most importantly an ability to build and maintain relationships

to build and maintain relationships

to build and maintain relationships pretty simple and as I said it isn’t

pretty simple and as I said it isn’t

pretty simple and as I said it isn’t just about of thinking that you have

just about of thinking that you have

just about of thinking that you have these skills it’s about knowing how and

these skills it’s about knowing how and

these skills it’s about knowing how and when to apply them take communication on

when to apply them take communication on

when to apply them take communication on Excel everyone likes to think they are

Excel everyone likes to think they are

Excel everyone likes to think they are good communicators if we can’t

good communicators if we can’t

good communicators if we can’t communicate a seemingly simple function

communicate a seemingly simple function

communicate a seemingly simple function then we must be pretty stupid right

then we must be pretty stupid right

then we must be pretty stupid right that’s the belief but there’s a

that’s the belief but there’s a

that’s the belief but there’s a difference between communicating and

difference between communicating and

difference between communicating and communicating effectively and the

communicating effectively and the

communicating effectively and the purpose of the communication might be

purpose of the communication might be

purpose of the communication might be manifold is the communication designed

manifold is the communication designed

manifold is the communication designed to inspire or is it a sentiment for is

to inspire or is it a sentiment for is

to inspire or is it a sentiment for is it too direct

it too direct

it too direct to persuade it to all of you to come how

to persuade it to all of you to come how

to persuade it to all of you to come how is it directed who is it directed to is

is it directed who is it directed to is

is it directed who is it directed to is it to create a perception or to dispel

it to create a perception or to dispel

it to create a perception or to dispel the center and maybe the same thing

the center and maybe the same thing

the center and maybe the same thing and once I mentioned early on that I

and once I mentioned early on that I

and once I mentioned early on that I want to look at the other side I do

want to look at the other side I do

want to look at the other side I do actually believe good schools and

actually believe good schools and

actually believe good schools and universities to teach us the skills to

universities to teach us the skills to

universities to teach us the skills to become breaking in pictures they provide

become breaking in pictures they provide

become breaking in pictures they provide safe forums for us to hone that

safe forums for us to hone that

safe forums for us to hone that particular skill well they don’t always

particular skill well they don’t always

particular skill well they don’t always eat it it’s how those communications

eat it it’s how those communications

eat it it’s how those communications perceived and how they reacted to

perceived and how they reacted to

perceived and how they reacted to particularly when they’re out there be a

particularly when they’re out there be a

particularly when they’re out there be a real shot to stuff

real shot to stuff

real shot to stuff I’ll give you an example I once had a at

I’ll give you an example I once had a at

I’ll give you an example I once had a at a team who insist if I’m communicating

a team who insist if I’m communicating

a team who insist if I’m communicating only by even even though they sat in

only by even even though they sat in

only by even even though they sat in small group before it stemming from a

small group before it stemming from a

small group before it stemming from a history I discovered of dislike and

history I discovered of dislike and

history I discovered of dislike and distrust their former boss hadn’t

distrust their former boss hadn’t

distrust their former boss hadn’t resolved due to fact that he lacked that

resolved due to fact that he lacked that

resolved due to fact that he lacked that level of director communication by me by

level of director communication by me by

level of director communication by me by emailing each other they named to cut

emailing each other they named to cut

emailing each other they named to cut down any deeper level in order to reduce

down any deeper level in order to reduce

down any deeper level in order to reduce this without directly worry too much

this without directly worry too much

this without directly worry too much attention to it every time one of them

attention to it every time one of them

attention to it every time one of them sent out knee marked this small group I

sent out knee marked this small group I

sent out knee marked this small group I would have all noticed their desks to

would have all noticed their desks to

would have all noticed their desks to answer in person whatever was in the

answer in person whatever was in the

answer in person whatever was in the email to begin a discussion around

email to begin a discussion around

email to begin a discussion around myself and appraised what they

myself and appraised what they

myself and appraised what they discovered there were a few months

discovered there were a few months

discovered there were a few months because then at that home and discussion

because then at that home and discussion

because then at that home and discussion my own only saw with problems quicker in

my own only saw with problems quicker in

my own only saw with problems quicker in confidence

confidence

confidence unity with each other openly generated

unity with each other openly generated

unity with each other openly generated trust and Trust is a huge driver trust

trust and Trust is a huge driver trust

trust and Trust is a huge driver trust within this particular group right

within this particular group right

within this particular group right haven’t been there before

haven’t been there before

haven’t been there before there are myeloma compassion and a high

there are myeloma compassion and a high

there are myeloma compassion and a high level of caches work were all doing and

level of caches work were all doing and

level of caches work were all doing and missus

missus

missus we’re working on its own distinctive

we’re working on its own distinctive

we’re working on its own distinctive because it should be pretty easy to

because it should be pretty easy to

because it should be pretty easy to generate passion much with stem from a

generate passion much with stem from a

generate passion much with stem from a higher level of activity trust in good

higher level of activity trust in good

higher level of activity trust in good communication learn themselves to a

communication learn themselves to a

communication learn themselves to a higher level collaboration and this can

higher level collaboration and this can

higher level collaboration and this can be naturally forming organic maybe and

be naturally forming organic maybe and

be naturally forming organic maybe and proactively see to that list on paper

proactively see to that list on paper

proactively see to that list on paper earlier as well it’s only has to be

earlier as well it’s only has to be

earlier as well it’s only has to be pulling out the optimism I mention at

pulling out the optimism I mention at

pulling out the optimism I mention at the time believed in groups have been

the time believed in groups have been

the time believed in groups have been individuals who are asked or instructed

individuals who are asked or instructed

individuals who are asked or instructed to find

to find

to find areas of collaboration will only

areas of collaboration will only

areas of collaboration will only flourish they have the skills to do so

flourish they have the skills to do so

flourish they have the skills to do so and I can often be something as simple

and I can often be something as simple

and I can often be something as simple as recognizing and displaying our own

as recognizing and displaying our own

as recognizing and displaying our own strengths our weaknesses and their

strengths our weaknesses and their

strengths our weaknesses and their limitations the best entrepreneurs in

limitations the best entrepreneurs in

limitations the best entrepreneurs in the world I’m sure that there is a

the world I’m sure that there is a

the world I’m sure that there is a budding ones in this audience today

budding ones in this audience today

budding ones in this audience today recognizes whilst they may have the seed

recognizes whilst they may have the seed

recognizes whilst they may have the seed great idea

great idea

great idea they will only succeed through high

they will only succeed through high

they will only succeed through high levels of collaboration gathering teams

levels of collaboration gathering teams

levels of collaboration gathering teams around them you can execute their vision

around them you can execute their vision

around them you can execute their vision because they know that they are not and

because they know that they are not and

because they know that they are not and they cannot be experts in all areas this

they cannot be experts in all areas this

they cannot be experts in all areas this corner is a great sports group any

corner is a great sports group any

corner is a great sports group any sports team choir as the Highland

sports team choir as the Highland

sports team choir as the Highland collaboration to succeed if you’re into

collaboration to succeed if you’re into

collaboration to succeed if you’re into sport and enter team sports take

sport and enter team sports take

sport and enter team sports take advantage of that great place of

advantage of that great place of

advantage of that great place of learning John Lasseter was that chief

learning John Lasseter was that chief

learning John Lasseter was that chief creative officer at Pixar on what Disney

creative officer at Pixar on what Disney

creative officer at Pixar on what Disney Animation and directions from choice

Animation and directions from choice

Animation and directions from choice berry also talked about the importance

berry also talked about the importance

berry also talked about the importance of collaboration play play leads to

of collaboration play play leads to

of collaboration play play leads to creativity great opportunities for ideas

creativity great opportunities for ideas

creativity great opportunities for ideas he claims that as we get older we lose

he claims that as we get older we lose

he claims that as we get older we lose the ability to play and as the great

the ability to play and as the great

the ability to play and as the great educator Ken Robinson says school has a

educator Ken Robinson says school has a

educator Ken Robinson says school has a habit thrilling creativity and play out

habit thrilling creativity and play out

habit thrilling creativity and play out of us it’s why Google Facebook picks up

of us it’s why Google Facebook picks up

of us it’s why Google Facebook picks up turn their workplaces into campuses with

turn their workplaces into campuses with

turn their workplaces into campuses with Buzzbee gaming rooms and throwing groups

Buzzbee gaming rooms and throwing groups

Buzzbee gaming rooms and throwing groups inspiring play inspires creativity that

inspiring play inspires creativity that

inspiring play inspires creativity that inspire success

inspire success

inspire success my wife may disagree with painters here

my wife may disagree with painters here

my wife may disagree with painters here she may disagree with me but I am an

she may disagree with me but I am an

she may disagree with me but I am an optimist

optimist

optimist the CEO of the Walt Disney Company oh my

the CEO of the Walt Disney Company oh my

the CEO of the Walt Disney Company oh my go

go

go he’s very fond of telling us that

he’s very fond of telling us that

he’s very fond of telling us that optimism is one of the greatest

optimism is one of the greatest

optimism is one of the greatest treasures accessible Peter it’s very

treasures accessible Peter it’s very

treasures accessible Peter it’s very Disney to stay right Disneyland is a

Disney to stay right Disneyland is a

Disney to stay right Disneyland is a thrill the happiest place on earth but

thrill the happiest place on earth but

thrill the happiest place on earth but it isn’t that kind of up to optimism I’m

it isn’t that kind of up to optimism I’m

it isn’t that kind of up to optimism I’m interested in it’s more of a can-do

interested in it’s more of a can-do

interested in it’s more of a can-do attitude or believe that anything is

attitude or believe that anything is

attitude or believe that anything is possible anything is possible

possible anything is possible

possible anything is possible I’m not a fan of being told that there

I’m not a fan of being told that there

I’m not a fan of being told that there is nothing more that can be done I have

is nothing more that can be done I have

is nothing more that can be done I have a hard time with the attitude that

a hard time with the attitude that

a hard time with the attitude that something isn’t

something isn’t

something isn’t just because it hasn’t been done before

just because it hasn’t been done before

just because it hasn’t been done before something I come across a lot some of

something I come across a lot some of

something I come across a lot some of the moderator some of my business

the moderator some of my business

the moderator some of my business optimism belief

optimism belief

optimism belief combine that with collaboration and

combine that with collaboration and

combine that with collaboration and communication and Trust in your peers

communication and Trust in your peers

communication and Trust in your peers greater valence seemingly impossible can

greater valence seemingly impossible can

greater valence seemingly impossible can be achieved a master cheaping striving

be achieved a master cheaping striving

be achieved a master cheaping striving to achieve innovate you’ll be aware of

to achieve innovate you’ll be aware of

to achieve innovate you’ll be aware of the expression test and learn there

the expression test and learn there

the expression test and learn there should be a mantra for life I work for

should be a mantra for life I work for

should be a mantra for life I work for one of the world’s largest media

one of the world’s largest media

one of the world’s largest media companies something that where are you

companies something that where are you

companies something that where are you aware of is that innovation the new

aware of is that innovation the new

aware of is that innovation the new digital world means that our audience is

digital world means that our audience is

digital world means that our audience is often running away from us what I mean

often running away from us what I mean

often running away from us what I mean is the growth of digital has exploded

is the growth of digital has exploded

is the growth of digital has exploded innovation and democratized it at an

innovation and democratized it at an

innovation and democratized it at an accelerated rate we’re constantly trying

accelerated rate we’re constantly trying

accelerated rate we’re constantly trying to keep up with the next big thing

to keep up with the next big thing

to keep up with the next big thing especially social platforms marketing to

especially social platforms marketing to

especially social platforms marketing to our target audience but innovation isn’t

our target audience but innovation isn’t

our target audience but innovation isn’t just about technology and that’s very

just about technology and that’s very

just about technology and that’s very important it can be about something as

important it can be about something as

important it can be about something as simple as the way we choose to see their

simple as the way we choose to see their

simple as the way we choose to see their teams or teach your lessons or approach

teams or teach your lessons or approach

teams or teach your lessons or approach of schoolbook something else isn’t

of schoolbook something else isn’t

of schoolbook something else isn’t always something better but unless you

always something better but unless you

always something better but unless you have the eyes to see it and willing to

have the eyes to see it and willing to

have the eyes to see it and willing to try it innovate and inspire others to do

try it innovate and inspire others to do

try it innovate and inspire others to do to say let them know that progress

to say let them know that progress

to say let them know that progress requires trying something new and

requires trying something new and

requires trying something new and importantly it requires getting

importantly it requires getting

importantly it requires getting something wrong this leads me to the

something wrong this leads me to the

something wrong this leads me to the final three points that I wanted to add

final three points that I wanted to add

final three points that I wanted to add today first is humility which sin terms

today first is humility which sin terms

today first is humility which sin terms are what we traditionally view to being

are what we traditionally view to being

are what we traditionally view to being humble I’m talking more about a open and

humble I’m talking more about a open and

humble I’m talking more about a open and honest debate failings feelings and your

honest debate failings feelings and your

honest debate failings feelings and your mistakes something that needs to be

mistakes something that needs to be

mistakes something that needs to be encouraged is it is tiny Moneyball Pixar

encouraged is it is tiny Moneyball Pixar

encouraged is it is tiny Moneyball Pixar is a great opponent that’s Andrew

is a great opponent that’s Andrew

is a great opponent that’s Andrew Stanton director of finding jewelry I’m

Stanton director of finding jewelry I’m

Stanton director of finding jewelry I’m sellers is well-known for telling people

sellers is well-known for telling people

sellers is well-known for telling people they’re as fast as you can what is

they’re as fast as you can what is

they’re as fast as you can what is referring to as the failure isn’t a

referring to as the failure isn’t a

referring to as the failure isn’t a necessary evil but isn’t evil at all

necessary evil but isn’t evil at all

necessary evil but isn’t evil at all it’s an inevitable result of trying

it’s an inevitable result of trying

it’s an inevitable result of trying something

something

something you learn move on don’t blame innovate

you learn move on don’t blame innovate

you learn move on don’t blame innovate it’s all connected you’ll help me to

it’s all connected you’ll help me to

it’s all connected you’ll help me to work better close to build trust to

work better close to build trust to

work better close to build trust to inspire to create an environment passion

inspire to create an environment passion

inspire to create an environment passion to increasing communication to build and

to increasing communication to build and

to increasing communication to build and maintain relationships and this really

maintain relationships and this really

maintain relationships and this really is relationships are what my business is

is relationships are what my business is

is relationships are what my business is built on Disney the film business the

built on Disney the film business the

built on Disney the film business the media business and the vast majority of

media business and the vast majority of

media business and the vast majority of businesses you can name as well as being

businesses you can name as well as being

businesses you can name as well as being a doctor a lawyer a coach politician

a doctor a lawyer a coach politician

a doctor a lawyer a coach politician teacher whatever you may want to turn

teacher whatever you may want to turn

teacher whatever you may want to turn your hand to you can build great

your hand to you can build great

your hand to you can build great relationships throughout your life learn

relationships throughout your life learn

relationships throughout your life learn how to nurture them you mean to be

how to nurture them you mean to be

how to nurture them you mean to be giving us what it’s about

you were surrounded by brilliant minds

you were surrounded by brilliant minds of this school and in this country at

of this school and in this country at

of this school and in this country at university you will inevitably meet

university you will inevitably meet

university you will inevitably meet great people who’ve gone to great things

great people who’ve gone to great things

great people who’ve gone to great things you may well do so yourself now in a

you may well do so yourself now in a

you may well do so yourself now in a false or contrived way but worthy to

false or contrived way but worthy to

false or contrived way but worthy to build up your network as you move

build up your network as you move

build up your network as you move through life in my day when we met

through life in my day when we met

through life in my day when we met people all that we could do was exchange

people all that we could do was exchange

people all that we could do was exchange our parents phone numbers and their

our parents phone numbers and their

our parents phone numbers and their addresses and then we had to be in the

addresses and then we had to be in the

addresses and then we had to be in the right place at the right time in order

right place at the right time in order

right place at the right time in order to receive any communication we were

to receive any communication we were

to receive any communication we were bound by the limitations of these days

bound by the limitations of these days

bound by the limitations of these days it’s much easier email Facebook

it’s much easier email Facebook

it’s much easier email Facebook Instagram some other platform to olds

Instagram some other platform to olds

Instagram some other platform to olds know anything about your network is

know anything about your network is

know anything about your network is building itself you every time you make

building itself you every time you make

building itself you every time you make a new connection that connection is

a new connection that connection is

a new connection that connection is immediately joined to another host

immediately joined to another host

immediately joined to another host affections and so on and so on in an

affections and so on and so on in an

affections and so on and so on in an infinite spider’s web the key is to

infinite spider’s web the key is to

infinite spider’s web the key is to harness those relationships help others

harness those relationships help others

harness those relationships help others be good people build trust collaborate

be good people build trust collaborate

be good people build trust collaborate communicate

communicate

communicate be creative be thankful honorable fun

be creative be thankful honorable fun

be creative be thankful honorable fun play learn adapt innovate inspire this

play learn adapt innovate inspire this

play learn adapt innovate inspire this is the other side these are the skills

is the other side these are the skills

is the other side these are the skills this

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