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The Onion’s Layered Lesson On Identity | Hauke Ziessler | TEDxBrandeisUniversity


okay oh I wasn’t planned um so uh wait

okay oh I wasn’t planned um so uh wait let me get mine um yeah thank you for

let me get mine um yeah thank you for

let me get mine um yeah thank you for the introduction um I’m going to talk

the introduction um I’m going to talk

the introduction um I’m going to talk about I’m going to talk about identity

about I’m going to talk about identity

about I’m going to talk about identity and yeah I want to ask you a couple

and yeah I want to ask you a couple

and yeah I want to ask you a couple questions regarding this what is your

questions regarding this what is your

questions regarding this what is your first impression of me who do you think

first impression of me who do you think

first impression of me who do you think I am and what do you think is my

I am and what do you think is my

I am and what do you think is my identity this is what interests me if I

identity this is what interests me if I

identity this is what interests me if I had a more polished entrance that then

had a more polished entrance that then

had a more polished entrance that then compared to what has happened would you

compared to what has happened would you

compared to what has happened would you have a different perception of me your

have a different perception of me your

have a different perception of me your perception right now influences how you

perception right now influences how you

perception right now influences how you see my entire identity but also

see my entire identity but also

see my entire identity but also influences how I structure my narrative

influences how I structure my narrative

influences how I structure my narrative right now and how I interact with you as

right now and how I interact with you as

right now and how I interact with you as the crowd now that I’ve acted activated

the crowd now that I’ve acted activated

the crowd now that I’ve acted activated your brains to think a little more about

your brains to think a little more about

your brains to think a little more about identity and the complexity of it and

identity and the complexity of it and

identity and the complexity of it and thinking about Who I am I like to

thinking about Who I am I like to

thinking about Who I am I like to explore the definition of identity with

explore the definition of identity with

explore the definition of identity with you a little further and we have them

you a little further and we have them

you a little further and we have them beamed up above me um what I found in my

beamed up above me um what I found in my

beamed up above me um what I found in my research through looking at this

research through looking at this

research through looking at this definition I found that there’s no one

definition I found that there’s no one

definition I found that there’s no one clear definition that scientists are

clear definition that scientists are

clear definition that scientists are working with but I’ve kind of brought

working with but I’ve kind of brought

working with but I’ve kind of brought them all together in these two

them all together in these two

them all together in these two definitions so the first is that it is a

definitions so the first is that it is a

definitions so the first is that it is a socially established category that is

socially established category that is

socially established category that is established through certain attributes

established through certain attributes

established through certain attributes characteristics anticipated behaviors

characteristics anticipated behaviors

characteristics anticipated behaviors and rules of membership these categories

and rules of membership these categories

and rules of membership these categories can define kind of a public perceived

can define kind of a public perceived

can define kind of a public perceived identity and the second is more personal

identity and the second is more personal

identity and the second is more personal and these are the features that are

and these are the features that are

and these are the features that are socially distinctive which a person

socially distinctive which a person

socially distinctive which a person ascribes – these can be both static or

ascribes – these can be both static or

ascribes – these can be both static or adaptable in nature but are personal yet

adaptable in nature but are personal yet

adaptable in nature but are personal yet socially consequential

socially consequential

socially consequential now what is this all mean features that

now what is this all mean features that

now what is this all mean features that are socially distinctive and what I

are socially distinctive and what I

are socially distinctive and what I mentioned the socially established

mentioned the socially established

mentioned the socially established categories now I’d like to differentiate

categories now I’d like to differentiate

categories now I’d like to differentiate the two between how you see me and how I

the two between how you see me and how I

the two between how you see me and how I see myself for the purpose of the

see myself for the purpose of the

see myself for the purpose of the conversation I’m going to look at it as

conversation I’m going to look at it as

conversation I’m going to look at it as the perceived identity or how you see me

the perceived identity or how you see me

the perceived identity or how you see me and personal identity how I see myself

and personal identity how I see myself

and personal identity how I see myself daily subliminal inferences based on

daily subliminal inferences based on

daily subliminal inferences based on your past experiences shape how you

your past experiences shape how you

your past experiences shape how you structure this perceived identity the

structure this perceived identity the

structure this perceived identity the beginning of the talk created this kind

beginning of the talk created this kind

beginning of the talk created this kind of awkward interlude you aren’t sure who

of awkward interlude you aren’t sure who

of awkward interlude you aren’t sure who is this guy what what is happening and

is this guy what what is happening and

is this guy what what is happening and you automatically made certain

you automatically made certain

you automatically made certain inferences past experiences your social

inferences past experiences your social

inferences past experiences your social context and your upbringing impacted

context and your upbringing impacted

context and your upbringing impacted this your perceived identity was perhaps

this your perceived identity was perhaps

this your perceived identity was perhaps similar or diverging according to the

similar or diverging according to the

similar or diverging according to the people around you maybe you still feel

people around you maybe you still feel

people around you maybe you still feel kind of awkward about this whole thing

kind of awkward about this whole thing

kind of awkward about this whole thing and you infer that I’m a white male

and you infer that I’m a white male

and you infer that I’m a white male perhaps I’m attracted to people that

perhaps I’m attracted to people that

perhaps I’m attracted to people that identify as woman

identify as woman

identify as woman maybe there’s none of that in my life

maybe there’s none of that in my life

maybe there’s none of that in my life what is this accent where does it fit

what is this accent where does it fit

what is this accent where does it fit into your kind of identity boxes it’s

into your kind of identity boxes it’s

into your kind of identity boxes it’s it’s kind of strange these now you’re

it’s kind of strange these now you’re

it’s kind of strange these now you’re firing up cliches you bring up thoughts

firing up cliches you bring up thoughts

firing up cliches you bring up thoughts that are triggered by memory or implicit

that are triggered by memory or implicit

that are triggered by memory or implicit biases stories start popping into your

biases stories start popping into your

biases stories start popping into your mind now

mind now

mind now globalization has made this even more

globalization has made this even more

globalization has made this even more complex as we move between nations we

complex as we move between nations we

complex as we move between nations we start to see strange combinations of

start to see strange combinations of

start to see strange combinations of identities and identities become ever

identities and identities become ever

identities and identities become ever more fluid my personal identity perhaps

more fluid my personal identity perhaps

more fluid my personal identity perhaps is a lot more elusive than you think it

is a lot more elusive than you think it

is a lot more elusive than you think it is

is

is and it’s difficult to define by my mere

and it’s difficult to define by my mere

and it’s difficult to define by my mere appearance this causes a weird fissure

appearance this causes a weird fissure

appearance this causes a weird fissure between what you see of me and what I

between what you see of me and what I

between what you see of me and what I see of myself so let me give me you a

see of myself so let me give me you a

see of myself so let me give me you a little example what do you see in this

little example what do you see in this

little example what do you see in this image

the theoretical image that will appear

the theoretical image that will appear thank you

thank you

thank you this image is an onion probably not an

this image is an onion probably not an

this image is an onion probably not an ogre some of you expected but it is a

ogre some of you expected but it is a

ogre some of you expected but it is a different onions of shapes and sizes and

different onions of shapes and sizes and

different onions of shapes and sizes and diverse taste now what if I took another

diverse taste now what if I took another

diverse taste now what if I took another layer off what would you expect you’d

layer off what would you expect you’d

layer off what would you expect you’d probably expect more onion but what if

probably expect more onion but what if

probably expect more onion but what if you went a couple a is deeper and

you went a couple a is deeper and

you went a couple a is deeper and suddenly there was an apple your idea of

suddenly there was an apple your idea of

suddenly there was an apple your idea of an onion would be strange what is this

an onion would be strange what is this

an onion would be strange what is this it would be rocked and you’d maybe have

it would be rocked and you’d maybe have

it would be rocked and you’d maybe have to reanalyze how you look at onions but

to reanalyze how you look at onions but

to reanalyze how you look at onions but I was to come to you a couple days later

I was to come to you a couple days later

I was to come to you a couple days later with a similar onion and ask you what’s

with a similar onion and ask you what’s

with a similar onion and ask you what’s beneath these layers you probably still

beneath these layers you probably still

beneath these layers you probably still answer an onion but you’d become more

answer an onion but you’d become more

answer an onion but you’d become more open to the idea that there might just

open to the idea that there might just

open to the idea that there might just be an apple within now if people have

be an apple within now if people have

be an apple within now if people have never been exposed to the fact that

never been exposed to the fact that

never been exposed to the fact that there might be apples that are disguised

there might be apples that are disguised

there might be apples that are disguised as onions they might never believe you

as onions they might never believe you

as onions they might never believe you and they might turn you down and think

and they might turn you down and think

and they might turn you down and think you’re going a little nuts but my

you’re going a little nuts but my

you’re going a little nuts but my identity feels a lot similar to this

identity feels a lot similar to this

identity feels a lot similar to this analogy I’ve always been that outsider I

analogy I’ve always been that outsider I

analogy I’ve always been that outsider I grew up in a German family but grew up

grew up in a German family but grew up

grew up in a German family but grew up mostly in South Africa I was called

mostly in South Africa I was called

mostly in South Africa I was called Hitler in school and when I moved back

Hitler in school and when I moved back

Hitler in school and when I moved back to Germany I was often seen this African

to Germany I was often seen this African

to Germany I was often seen this African that came from afar my friends would

that came from afar my friends would

that came from afar my friends would introduce me as not hey this is how come

introduce me as not hey this is how come

introduce me as not hey this is how come my friend where it’d be this is how come

my friend where it’d be this is how come

my friend where it’d be this is how come my African friend now this was very

my African friend now this was very

my African friend now this was very strange but I began to relish it I

strange but I began to relish it I

strange but I began to relish it I looked at my advantages in this and I

looked at my advantages in this and I

looked at my advantages in this and I quickly in South Africa became the class

quickly in South Africa became the class

quickly in South Africa became the class clown earning myself the title of the

clown earning myself the title of the

clown earning myself the title of the crazy German but I did not feel German I

crazy German but I did not feel German I

crazy German but I did not feel German I did not feel like South Africa was my

did not feel like South Africa was my

did not feel like South Africa was my home and even to this day I feel like my

home and even to this day I feel like my

home and even to this day I feel like my I’m of an observer of my body going

I’m of an observer of my body going

I’m of an observer of my body going through these daily motions and

through these daily motions and

through these daily motions and structured especially on their pure

structured especially on their pure

structured especially on their pure appearances and opinions of others I

appearances and opinions of others I

appearances and opinions of others I adapt my identity according to what

adapt my identity according to what

adapt my identity according to what people perceive of my outer onion layers

people perceive of my outer onion layers

people perceive of my outer onion layers I do not feel connected to that though

I do not feel connected to that though

I do not feel connected to that though unlike what you think I feel a lot more

unlike what you think I feel a lot more

unlike what you think I feel a lot more like one of these apples stuck in an

like one of these apples stuck in an

like one of these apples stuck in an onion but through this experience I’ve

onion but through this experience I’ve

onion but through this experience I’ve become more aware of the apples and I

become more aware of the apples and I

become more aware of the apples and I have adapted and morphed into the

have adapted and morphed into the

have adapted and morphed into the context and into the local identity

context and into the local identity

context and into the local identity politics of the situation where I was I

politics of the situation where I was I

politics of the situation where I was I floated in between identities now I

floated in between identities now I

floated in between identities now I became ever more way of how I was

became ever more way of how I was

became ever more way of how I was complicit in my privilege as a white

complicit in my privilege as a white

complicit in my privilege as a white male I was historically benefiting from

male I was historically benefiting from

male I was historically benefiting from the context of this of this position and

the context of this of this position and

the context of this of this position and my mere mere presence in certain

my mere mere presence in certain

my mere mere presence in certain international contexts automatically had

international contexts automatically had

international contexts automatically had an impact ident my identity was fluid

an impact ident my identity was fluid

an impact ident my identity was fluid yet I was static I was deeply rooted in

yet I was static I was deeply rooted in

yet I was static I was deeply rooted in my individualism and my identity but

my individualism and my identity but

my individualism and my identity but because I noticed my role in the broader

because I noticed my role in the broader

because I noticed my role in the broader community I had to have a reflexive

community I had to have a reflexive

community I had to have a reflexive communal identity and nature that in the

communal identity and nature that in the

communal identity and nature that in the social space I was adaptive and

social space I was adaptive and

social space I was adaptive and understanding now social psychology as

understanding now social psychology as

understanding now social psychology as we saw in the in the previous

we saw in the in the previous

we saw in the in the previous definitions identifies so identity to be

definitions identifies so identity to be

definitions identifies so identity to be rather adaptable but I found that public

rather adaptable but I found that public

rather adaptable but I found that public perception of this is far more static my

perception of this is far more static my

perception of this is far more static my mere framing of my narrative impacts how

mere framing of my narrative impacts how

mere framing of my narrative impacts how you perceive me I’ve recently discovered

you perceive me I’ve recently discovered

you perceive me I’ve recently discovered that when I mentioned that I’m a German

that when I mentioned that I’m a German

that when I mentioned that I’m a German that grew up in South Africa people

that grew up in South Africa people

that grew up in South Africa people would go oh yeah I can hear the German

would go oh yeah I can hear the German

would go oh yeah I can hear the German accent where if I said I’m South African

accent where if I said I’m South African

accent where if I said I’m South African and I grew up in a German I’m original

and I grew up in a German I’m original

and I grew up in a German I’m original German people would say oh yeah I can

German people would say oh yeah I can

German people would say oh yeah I can hear the South African accent so just my

hear the South African accent so just my

hear the South African accent so just my me a choice of words impacted how people

me a choice of words impacted how people

me a choice of words impacted how people already identified with me this is

already identified with me this is

already identified with me this is rather anecdotal but my narrative it

rather anecdotal but my narrative it

rather anecdotal but my narrative it shows on my narrative defined this

shows on my narrative defined this

shows on my narrative defined this perceived identity why I say perceived

perceived identity why I say perceived

perceived identity why I say perceived identity is very static it shows how

identity is very static it shows how

identity is very static it shows how it’s also rather malleable and how we

it’s also rather malleable and how we

it’s also rather malleable and how we need a reflexive nature to react to that

need a reflexive nature to react to that

need a reflexive nature to react to that and also be accommodating to that we

and also be accommodating to that we

and also be accommodating to that we need to understand our position in the

need to understand our position in the

need to understand our position in the world so how do we move away from this

world so how do we move away from this

world so how do we move away from this rather static definition of what we see

rather static definition of what we see

rather static definition of what we see is identity

is identity

is identity perhaps perhaps be more open to this new

perhaps perhaps be more open to this new

perhaps perhaps be more open to this new fluidity you’ll need to become aware and

fluidity you’ll need to become aware and

fluidity you’ll need to become aware and all of us need to become more aware of

all of us need to become more aware of

all of us need to become more aware of how we shape identity and how we impact

how we shape identity and how we impact

how we shape identity and how we impact how people act around us we are not

how people act around us we are not

how people act around us we are not autonomous we influence the communities

autonomous we influence the communities

autonomous we influence the communities and our very nature of speaking

and our very nature of speaking

and our very nature of speaking influences how communities define

influences how communities define

influences how communities define themselves now I’m wearing a suit I’m

themselves now I’m wearing a suit I’m

themselves now I’m wearing a suit I’m not wearing my very cherished

not wearing my very cherished

not wearing my very cherished multicolored onesie and this is for one

multicolored onesie and this is for one

multicolored onesie and this is for one reason that you automatically take me

reason that you automatically take me

reason that you automatically take me more seriously science has shown that

more seriously science has shown that

more seriously science has shown that people that wear suits are rated as more

people that wear suits are rated as more

people that wear suits are rated as more trustworthy as more intelligent as and

trustworthy as more intelligent as and

trustworthy as more intelligent as and more far more serious so the mere fact

more far more serious so the mere fact

more far more serious so the mere fact that you believe that I am more serious

that you believe that I am more serious

that you believe that I am more serious right now wearing a suit perpetuates

right now wearing a suit perpetuates

right now wearing a suit perpetuates that I need to wear suit to seem serious

that I need to wear suit to seem serious

that I need to wear suit to seem serious and perpetuates this almost vicious

and perpetuates this almost vicious

and perpetuates this almost vicious cycle so I want to challenge that and

cycle so I want to challenge that and

cycle so I want to challenge that and say we need to start being more

say we need to start being more

say we need to start being more ourselves being more unique and also

ourselves being more unique and also

ourselves being more unique and also being aware of our own identities but

being aware of our own identities but

being aware of our own identities but within that being accommodating and

within that being accommodating and

within that being accommodating and being open to exploring other people’s

being open to exploring other people’s

being open to exploring other people’s spaces and realities become open to this

spaces and realities become open to this

spaces and realities become open to this fluidity of the layers of the onions my

fluidity of the layers of the onions my

fluidity of the layers of the onions my experience in my experience I’ve been

experience in my experience I’ve been

experience in my experience I’ve been very privileged privileged to travel

very privileged privileged to travel

very privileged privileged to travel across very contrasting cultures and

across very contrasting cultures and

across very contrasting cultures and multicultural spaces one cross-cultural

multicultural spaces one cross-cultural

multicultural spaces one cross-cultural communication experience was in Bhutan

communication experience was in Bhutan

communication experience was in Bhutan there I worked with various

there I worked with various

there I worked with various international artists and I notice how I

international artists and I notice how I

international artists and I notice how I had to stay reflexive in this situation

had to stay reflexive in this situation

had to stay reflexive in this situation now what was a especially impactful is

now what was a especially impactful is

now what was a especially impactful is that they were true to their traditions

that they were true to their traditions

that they were true to their traditions and I had a huge respect for their motto

and I had a huge respect for their motto

and I had a huge respect for their motto was a modernization but not

was a modernization but not

was a modernization but not westernization I entered and I stayed

westernization I entered and I stayed

westernization I entered and I stayed how could yet I also had to adapt to the

how could yet I also had to adapt to the

how could yet I also had to adapt to the rhetoric to be more accommodating

rhetoric to be more accommodating

rhetoric to be more accommodating Western artists that we invited would

Western artists that we invited would

Western artists that we invited would come in and go this is how we’re going

come in and go this is how we’re going

come in and go this is how we’re going to do it and we have this amazing plan

to do it and we have this amazing plan

to do it and we have this amazing plan and who’s with me but no one was really

and who’s with me but no one was really

and who’s with me but no one was really with me and the doors quick

with me and the doors quick

with me and the doors quick he closed so when I entered I realized I

he closed so when I entered I realized I

he closed so when I entered I realized I had to adapt to that I did not no longer

had to adapt to that I did not no longer

had to adapt to that I did not no longer speak as was normal for a westerner but

speak as was normal for a westerner but

speak as was normal for a westerner but I would walk in and I would try to let

I would walk in and I would try to let

I would walk in and I would try to let the situation guide the conversation

the situation guide the conversation

the situation guide the conversation ways of ideation quickly adapted and

ways of ideation quickly adapted and

ways of ideation quickly adapted and became places of joint collaboration

became places of joint collaboration

became places of joint collaboration where we learned from each other this

where we learned from each other this

where we learned from each other this learning came deep was deeply rooted in

learning came deep was deeply rooted in

learning came deep was deeply rooted in the mistakes that we made in

the mistakes that we made in

the mistakes that we made in miscommunication but also in our

miscommunication but also in our

miscommunication but also in our differences superiority was never the

differences superiority was never the

differences superiority was never the goal in fact mutual understanding was

goal in fact mutual understanding was

goal in fact mutual understanding was and this was quite beautiful to see as

and this was quite beautiful to see as

and this was quite beautiful to see as it developed the most successful

it developed the most successful

it developed the most successful projects of international artists that I

projects of international artists that I

projects of international artists that I was working with were the ones I came in

was working with were the ones I came in

was working with were the ones I came in with humility they do not say this is

with humility they do not say this is

with humility they do not say this is how we’re going to do it but rather said

how we’re going to do it but rather said

how we’re going to do it but rather said how are we going to do this what are

how are we going to do this what are

how are we going to do this what are what are the options suddenly friendly

what are the options suddenly friendly

what are the options suddenly friendly conversing developed and equal sharing

conversing developed and equal sharing

conversing developed and equal sharing became the norm social differences were

became the norm social differences were

became the norm social differences were no longer the divider but they became

no longer the divider but they became

no longer the divider but they became the glue of the situation so why does

the glue of the situation so why does

the glue of the situation so why does all this matter where do we stand with

all this matter where do we stand with

all this matter where do we stand with all this knowing who you are as an onion

all this knowing who you are as an onion

all this knowing who you are as an onion makes you more aware of the flexibility

makes you more aware of the flexibility

makes you more aware of the flexibility that you experience in elements of your

that you experience in elements of your

that you experience in elements of your personal identity you become more open

personal identity you become more open

personal identity you become more open to the identities of others and you

to the identities of others and you

to the identities of others and you approach diversity in a more reflective

approach diversity in a more reflective

approach diversity in a more reflective and reflexive manner you become more

and reflexive manner you become more

and reflexive manner you become more open to the idea that maybe there are

open to the idea that maybe there are

open to the idea that maybe there are apples inside these onions as a white

apples inside these onions as a white

apples inside these onions as a white male that’s extremely important you have

male that’s extremely important you have

male that’s extremely important you have to be aware of the role as you’re

to be aware of the role as you’re

to be aware of the role as you’re conversing across cultures and you have

conversing across cultures and you have

conversing across cultures and you have to be aware of your position you have to

to be aware of your position you have to

to be aware of your position you have to be reflexive and you have to address

be reflexive and you have to address

be reflexive and you have to address your own complicity but that does not

your own complicity but that does not

your own complicity but that does not mean you need to be paralysed to act

mean you need to be paralysed to act

mean you need to be paralysed to act rather than every step you should it be

rather than every step you should it be

rather than every step you should it be asking how do I act in this context you

asking how do I act in this context you

asking how do I act in this context you should become aware of your perceived

should become aware of your perceived

should become aware of your perceived identity your own identity

identity your own identity

identity your own identity and you should learn to work with your

and you should learn to work with your

and you should learn to work with your implicit and explicit biases you need to

implicit and explicit biases you need to

implicit and explicit biases you need to question the in Faust in justices and

question the in Faust in justices and

question the in Faust in justices and whether you are enforcing these and

whether you are enforcing these and

whether you are enforcing these and justices but you can also work with the

justices but you can also work with the

justices but you can also work with the beauty in our differences and in the

beauty in our differences and in the

beauty in our differences and in the varying identities that we have in a

varying identities that we have in a

varying identities that we have in a constructive manner so while I was

constructive manner so while I was

constructive manner so while I was working in many different contrasting

working in many different contrasting

working in many different contrasting contexts from South Africa Germany India

contexts from South Africa Germany India

contexts from South Africa Germany India as mentioned Bhutan and now in the u.s.

as mentioned Bhutan and now in the u.s.

as mentioned Bhutan and now in the u.s. there are couple pointers that I found

there are couple pointers that I found

there are couple pointers that I found were Universal in how I was interacting

were Universal in how I was interacting

were Universal in how I was interacting with others these were open up secondly

with others these were open up secondly

with others these were open up secondly provides space to speak be open to

provides space to speak be open to

provides space to speak be open to providing the space be open to your

providing the space be open to your

providing the space be open to your failure in a respectful manner

failure in a respectful manner

failure in a respectful manner be honest and challenge those around you

be honest and challenge those around you

be honest and challenge those around you but also ask and explore yourself to

but also ask and explore yourself to

but also ask and explore yourself to understand your identity your perceived

understand your identity your perceived

understand your identity your perceived identity and as mentioned the implicit

identity and as mentioned the implicit

identity and as mentioned the implicit and explicit biases you’re not the only

and explicit biases you’re not the only

and explicit biases you’re not the only onion with an intricate beautiful story

onion with an intricate beautiful story

onion with an intricate beautiful story there are onions walking around all over

there are onions walking around all over

there are onions walking around all over this world with fascinating stories that

this world with fascinating stories that

this world with fascinating stories that you can learn from so relish that soak

you can learn from so relish that soak

you can learn from so relish that soak it up see the beauty in that and enjoy

it up see the beauty in that and enjoy

it up see the beauty in that and enjoy the storytellers around you because as

the storytellers around you because as

the storytellers around you because as much as they can teach you you can also

much as they can teach you you can also

much as they can teach you you can also teach those around you in a constructive

teach those around you in a constructive

teach those around you in a constructive and respectful way thank you

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