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[Applause] imagine you’re applying for a job you’ve
imagine you’re applying for a job you’ve
imagine you’re applying for a job you’ve passed successfully all examinations all
passed successfully all examinations all
passed successfully all examinations all assessments and tests you’ve been told
assessments and tests you’ve been told
assessments and tests you’ve been told by the examiner that you are the top
by the examiner that you are the top
by the examiner that you are the top scorer candidate that you have all
scorer candidate that you have all
scorer candidate that you have all analytical and soft skills to meet the
analytical and soft skills to meet the
analytical and soft skills to meet the jobs requirements you feel very happy
jobs requirements you feel very happy
jobs requirements you feel very happy because this job can change your life
but the day before you should go to sign
but the day before you should go to sign in the contract you receive a phone call
in the contract you receive a phone call
in the contract you receive a phone call the examiner tells you sorry
the examiner tells you sorry
the examiner tells you sorry but the director picked someone else he
but the director picked someone else he
but the director picked someone else he feels so sorry that he secretly shares
feels so sorry that he secretly shares
feels so sorry that he secretly shares with you that the selected person was a
with you that the selected person was a
with you that the selected person was a foolish candidate but was a close
foolish candidate but was a close
foolish candidate but was a close relative to the director has such a
relative to the director has such a
relative to the director has such a story happened to any one of you please
story happened to any one of you please
story happened to any one of you please let’s do a show of hands how many about
let’s do a show of hands how many about
let’s do a show of hands how many about 20% of the audience it’s already
20% of the audience it’s already
20% of the audience it’s already something for those of you who
something for those of you who
something for those of you who experience that in the public sector
experience that in the public sector
experience that in the public sector I can imagine your feelings sadness
I can imagine your feelings sadness
I can imagine your feelings sadness anger even resignation this talk is
anger even resignation this talk is
anger even resignation this talk is about how to convert resignation into
about how to convert resignation into
about how to convert resignation into progress and eventually how to promote
progress and eventually how to promote
progress and eventually how to promote accountability of public sector leaders
accountability of public sector leaders
accountability of public sector leaders why the public sector is significant
why the public sector is significant
why the public sector is significant because all of us are paying taxes to
because all of us are paying taxes to
because all of us are paying taxes to fund it so we should all have the right
fund it so we should all have the right
fund it so we should all have the right to say something about the usage of the
to say something about the usage of the
to say something about the usage of the money
money
money and the amounted of taxes we pay is
and the amounted of taxes we pay is
and the amounted of taxes we pay is significant have a look to this map it
significant have a look to this map it
significant have a look to this map it represent the tax revenues in percent of
represent the tax revenues in percent of
represent the tax revenues in percent of the gross domestic product in 2015 the
the gross domestic product in 2015 the
the gross domestic product in 2015 the OECD average is at a third it means that
OECD average is at a third it means that
OECD average is at a third it means that about that that the tax revenues we pay
about that that the tax revenues we pay
about that that the tax revenues we pay represent a third of the value we create
represent a third of the value we create
represent a third of the value we create on average isn’t it paradoxical that
on average isn’t it paradoxical that
on average isn’t it paradoxical that when we prepare a Christmas gift or when
when we prepare a Christmas gift or when
when we prepare a Christmas gift or when we want to change our phone subscription
we want to change our phone subscription
we want to change our phone subscription we spend hours even days comparing
we spend hours even days comparing
we spend hours even days comparing prices for some percent of difference
prices for some percent of difference
prices for some percent of difference whereas when we have to pay taxes we
whereas when we have to pay taxes we
whereas when we have to pay taxes we almost have nothing to say the taxes are
almost have nothing to say the taxes are
almost have nothing to say the taxes are used of course for the common good they
used of course for the common good they
used of course for the common good they are used to build schools roads to take
are used to build schools roads to take
are used to build schools roads to take care of the waste management or to pay
care of the waste management or to pay
care of the waste management or to pay police forces but it seems as with the
police forces but it seems as with the
police forces but it seems as with the discrimination in hiring example that
discrimination in hiring example that
discrimination in hiring example that some public leaders tends to forget
some public leaders tends to forget
some public leaders tends to forget about accountability to forget about the
about accountability to forget about the
about accountability to forget about the rules they may be themselves created and
rules they may be themselves created and
rules they may be themselves created and after all this kind of behavior begins
after all this kind of behavior begins
after all this kind of behavior begins to make the citizen less trustful in the
to make the citizen less trustful in the
to make the citizen less trustful in the public sector this lack of confidence
public sector this lack of confidence
public sector this lack of confidence creates the sign of a declining
creates the sign of a declining
creates the sign of a declining democracy and this we would not accept
democracy and this we would not accept
democracy and this we would not accept that we should change that and how can
that we should change that and how can
that we should change that and how can we do this that will be the purpose of
we do this that will be the purpose of
we do this that will be the purpose of this talk first we could contemplate
this talk first we could contemplate
this talk first we could contemplate having smart and honest people like you
having smart and honest people like you
having smart and honest people like you because you are interested in ideas
because you are interested in ideas
because you are interested in ideas worth spreading
worth spreading
worth spreading to access executive positions
to access executive positions
to access executive positions legislative positions to
legislative positions to
legislative positions to judicial position in our systems of
judicial position in our systems of
judicial position in our systems of course it will be already something very
course it will be already something very
course it will be already something very valuable but it will not be enough why
valuable but it will not be enough why
valuable but it will not be enough why because history has taught us that power
because history has taught us that power
because history has taught us that power tends to corrupt and absolute power
tends to corrupt and absolute power
tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely
corrupts absolutely
corrupts absolutely and at the same time limitation is
and at the same time limitation is
and at the same time limitation is essential to Authority and a government
essential to Authority and a government
essential to Authority and a government is legitimate only if it is effectively
is legitimate only if it is effectively
is legitimate only if it is effectively limited so having smart people helps but
limited so having smart people helps but
limited so having smart people helps but it cannot be sufficient
it cannot be sufficient
it cannot be sufficient the second way I would like to address
the second way I would like to address
the second way I would like to address is how the public auditors can become an
is how the public auditors can become an
is how the public auditors can become an effective counter power public auditors
effective counter power public auditors
effective counter power public auditors can check real facts real figures
can check real facts real figures
can check real facts real figures provided by the government and in this
provided by the government and in this
provided by the government and in this way they can act as a counter power but
way they can act as a counter power but
way they can act as a counter power but only if they benefit from citizen
only if they benefit from citizen
only if they benefit from citizen support they can really be effective
support they can really be effective
support they can really be effective why citizen support is key citizen
why citizen support is key citizen
why citizen support is key citizen support is key because citizen have the
support is key because citizen have the
support is key because citizen have the power the power comes from you it has
power the power comes from you it has
power the power comes from you it has even been set in stone more than 200
even been set in stone more than 200
even been set in stone more than 200 years ago in the Declaration of the
years ago in the Declaration of the
years ago in the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the citizen
Rights of Man and of the citizen
Rights of Man and of the citizen established in 1789 this is a very
established in 1789 this is a very
established in 1789 this is a very important text for our civilization and
important text for our civilization and
important text for our civilization and within this text we can read that men
within this text we can read that men
within this text we can read that men are equal they have the same right to
are equal they have the same right to
are equal they have the same right to access public jobs and to take part in
access public jobs and to take part in
access public jobs and to take part in the legislative process
the legislative process
the legislative process France even created a stamp for the
France even created a stamp for the
France even created a stamp for the 200th anniversary of this declaration
200th anniversary of this declaration
200th anniversary of this declaration here is the stamp and what I would like
here is the stamp and what I would like
here is the stamp and what I would like to highlight with you is the article 15
to highlight with you is the article 15
to highlight with you is the article 15 which says that society has the right to
which says that society has the right to
which says that society has the right to require of every public agent
require of every public agent
require of every public agent on account of his administration so it’s
on account of his administration so it’s
on account of his administration so it’s English words from 200 years ago
English words from 200 years ago
English words from 200 years ago basically it says that accountability
basically it says that accountability
basically it says that accountability should be the rule but what have we been
should be the rule but what have we been
should be the rule but what have we been doing with this right we have let’s do a
doing with this right we have let’s do a
doing with this right we have let’s do a second show of hands how many of you
second show of hands how many of you
second show of hands how many of you have personally used this right to
have personally used this right to
have personally used this right to require accountability from your public
require accountability from your public
require accountability from your public authorities please raise hands maybe 10%
authorities please raise hands maybe 10%
authorities please raise hands maybe 10% of the audience
of the audience
of the audience it’s already better than in the rear
it’s already better than in the rear
it’s already better than in the rear soles congratulations but still 10% is
soles congratulations but still 10% is
soles congratulations but still 10% is not the majority it seems we have like a
not the majority it seems we have like a
not the majority it seems we have like a broken link here between the citizen and
broken link here between the citizen and
broken link here between the citizen and the administration because we feel we
the administration because we feel we
the administration because we feel we cannot change things really we can only
cannot change things really we can only
cannot change things really we can only elect our government every four or five
elect our government every four or five
elect our government every four or five years and then wait and restart again
years and then wait and restart again
years and then wait and restart again and we don’t have many possibilities to
and we don’t have many possibilities to
and we don’t have many possibilities to change things ongoing
my belief is that this difficulty of
my belief is that this difficulty of communicating between the citizen and
communicating between the citizen and
communicating between the citizen and the admission and the administration can
the admission and the administration can
the admission and the administration can be improved through the use of the
be improved through the use of the
be improved through the use of the public auditors the public auditor would
public auditors the public auditor would
public auditors the public auditor would create two separate ways to improve the
create two separate ways to improve the
create two separate ways to improve the situation firstly with respect to the
situation firstly with respect to the
situation firstly with respect to the administration it will ask for increased
administration it will ask for increased
administration it will ask for increased transparency
transparency
transparency increased transparency means to
increased transparency means to
increased transparency means to constraint the administration to provide
constraint the administration to provide
constraint the administration to provide sound data to really give complete full
sound data to really give complete full
sound data to really give complete full and accurate figures public auditor can
and accurate figures public auditor can
and accurate figures public auditor can constraint the administration to set
constraint the administration to set
constraint the administration to set objectives that can be measured so that
objectives that can be measured so that
objectives that can be measured so that at the end of the term of a politician
at the end of the term of a politician
at the end of the term of a politician we can all note whether he succeeded or
we can all note whether he succeeded or
we can all note whether he succeeded or he failed but more importantly there is
he failed but more importantly there is
he failed but more importantly there is a second way the auditor can work on is
a second way the auditor can work on is
a second way the auditor can work on is the link and the connection with the
the link and the connection with the
the link and the connection with the citizen actually the link with you why
citizen actually the link with you why
citizen actually the link with you why this link is important let me show you
this link is important let me show you
this link is important let me show you an example from Geneva in 2013 on the
an example from Geneva in 2013 on the
an example from Geneva in 2013 on the website of the Court of Auditors
website of the Court of Auditors
website of the Court of Auditors we received a message mentioning some
we received a message mentioning some
we received a message mentioning some managers in that company are under high
managers in that company are under high
managers in that company are under high pressure to invest money into a project
pressure to invest money into a project
pressure to invest money into a project that makes no sense
that makes no sense
that makes no sense so although we are in Switzerland the
so although we are in Switzerland the
so although we are in Switzerland the plot the project is not about milk or
plot the project is not about milk or
plot the project is not about milk or cows it was about the windmills on the
cows it was about the windmills on the
cows it was about the windmills on the Jura mountains and after some
Jura mountains and after some
Jura mountains and after some investigations the court of Auditors
investigations the court of Auditors
investigations the court of Auditors could determine that some fraudulent
could determine that some fraudulent
could determine that some fraudulent practices were going
practices were going
practices were going going on because of a single employee of
going on because of a single employee of
going on because of a single employee of the company so the report was published
the company so the report was published
the company so the report was published and then a criminal claimed was filed
and then a criminal claimed was filed
and then a criminal claimed was filed and these are the press headlines
and these are the press headlines
and these are the press headlines so it’s in French that were published
so it’s in French that were published
so it’s in French that were published after some time but you don’t need to
after some time but you don’t need to
after some time but you don’t need to find huge cases like this to communicate
find huge cases like this to communicate
find huge cases like this to communicate with your auditors you can also
with your auditors you can also
with your auditors you can also communicate for some odd situations that
communicate for some odd situations that
communicate for some odd situations that you might face in your everyday life
you might face in your everyday life
you might face in your everyday life with the administration for instance
with the administration for instance
with the administration for instance when you go to do your car control check
when you go to do your car control check
when you go to do your car control check imagine you don’t get to received as
imagine you don’t get to received as
imagine you don’t get to received as with the example of discrimination in
with the example of discrimination in
with the example of discrimination in hiring you if you are subject to such
hiring you if you are subject to such
hiring you if you are subject to such practice or imagine you are always the
practice or imagine you are always the
practice or imagine you are always the last on the queue when you require the
last on the queue when you require the
last on the queue when you require the right to have access to a subsidized
right to have access to a subsidized
right to have access to a subsidized apartment all of these can be
apartment all of these can be
apartment all of these can be investigated by a public auditor who
investigated by a public auditor who
investigated by a public auditor who will check the facts but for that the
will check the facts but for that the
will check the facts but for that the public auditor would need convention
public auditor would need convention
public auditor would need convention confidentiality and a special and secure
confidentiality and a special and secure
confidentiality and a special and secure channel with the citizen and this is a
channel with the citizen and this is a
channel with the citizen and this is a future crossroad for the public auditor
future crossroad for the public auditor
future crossroad for the public auditor is to give you enough confidence so that
is to give you enough confidence so that
is to give you enough confidence so that you feel free to contact him and what we
you feel free to contact him and what we
you feel free to contact him and what we we have now is that more and more some
we have now is that more and more some
we have now is that more and more some systems based on on web technology can
systems based on on web technology can
systems based on on web technology can guarantee of a very high encryption of
guarantee of a very high encryption of
guarantee of a very high encryption of the communication and the data will not
the communication and the data will not
the communication and the data will not even be hosted at the auditor place but
even be hosted at the auditor place but
even be hosted at the auditor place but in a secure system which is in another
in a secure system which is in another
in a secure system which is in another country and which is totally encrypted
country and which is totally encrypted
country and which is totally encrypted and secure
and secure
and secure here are an example of some public
here are an example of some public
here are an example of some public companies or big Federation’s which have
companies or big Federation’s which have
companies or big Federation’s which have already set up such a secured channel so
already set up such a secured channel so
already set up such a secured channel so that citizens or users of these
that citizens or users of these
that citizens or users of these administrations can contact directly the
administrations can contact directly the
administrations can contact directly the public auditor bodies imagine as well
public auditor bodies imagine as well
public auditor bodies imagine as well that in other countries like in Brazil
that in other countries like in Brazil
that in other countries like in Brazil with lava jato like in Italy some years
with lava jato like in Italy some years
with lava jato like in Italy some years ago with manipulative in Germany with
ago with manipulative in Germany with
ago with manipulative in Germany with the Simmons case how faster the
the Simmons case how faster the
the Simmons case how faster the communication would have been if
communication would have been if
communication would have been if confidentiality could have been provided
confidentiality could have been provided
confidentiality could have been provided to the citizen last but not least make
to the citizen last but not least make
to the citizen last but not least make sure that accountability is not only
sure that accountability is not only
sure that accountability is not only valid for the public leaders but also
valid for the public leaders but also
valid for the public leaders but also for the public auditors you must control
for the public auditors you must control
for the public auditors you must control your auditors as well did I tell you I
your auditors as well did I tell you I
your auditors as well did I tell you I was working for the Geneva Court of
was working for the Geneva Court of
was working for the Geneva Court of Auditors make sure you’re controlling me
Auditors make sure you’re controlling me
Auditors make sure you’re controlling me and if you come from other countries
and if you come from other countries
and if you come from other countries make sure that you can control your
make sure that you can control your
make sure that you can control your public auditors as well it’s now time to
public auditors as well it’s now time to
public auditors as well it’s now time to conclude remember at the beginning I
conclude remember at the beginning I
conclude remember at the beginning I mentioned that accountability can change
mentioned that accountability can change
mentioned that accountability can change lives of people maybe with the case of
lives of people maybe with the case of
lives of people maybe with the case of the utility company investing in
the utility company investing in
the utility company investing in windmills this was a bit impersonal and
windmills this was a bit impersonal and
windmills this was a bit impersonal and you cannot really feel what happened in
you cannot really feel what happened in
you cannot really feel what happened in this case but imagine if I were to tell
this case but imagine if I were to tell
this case but imagine if I were to tell you that the discrimination in hiring
you that the discrimination in hiring
you that the discrimination in hiring example was not fictitious but it was
example was not fictitious but it was
example was not fictitious but it was real and indeed Court of Auditors made a
real and indeed Court of Auditors made a
real and indeed Court of Auditors made a note it some five years ago about hiring
note it some five years ago about hiring
note it some five years ago about hiring processes in Geneva administration and
processes in Geneva administration and
processes in Geneva administration and found a lot of problems and after the
found a lot of problems and after the
found a lot of problems and after the audit
audit
audit some processors were canceled some
some processors were canceled some
some processors were canceled some contracts were canceled and the process
contracts were canceled and the process
contracts were canceled and the process had to restart again so you can imagine
had to restart again so you can imagine
had to restart again so you can imagine that the person who was initially
that the person who was initially
that the person who was initially rejected but finally chosen could really
rejected but finally chosen could really
rejected but finally chosen could really have a change in his life as my final
have a change in his life as my final
have a change in his life as my final wish is to motivate you to communicate
wish is to motivate you to communicate
wish is to motivate you to communicate more with auditors when you have
more with auditors when you have
more with auditors when you have findings about fraudulent practices in
findings about fraudulent practices in
findings about fraudulent practices in the administration
the administration
the administration help me in Geneva I need you and help
help me in Geneva I need you and help
help me in Geneva I need you and help other public auditors wherever you come
other public auditors wherever you come
other public auditors wherever you come from communicate more with them they
from communicate more with them they
from communicate more with them they need you as well your communications can
need you as well your communications can
need you as well your communications can really bring more equal treatment about
really bring more equal treatment about
really bring more equal treatment about among citizen it can bring better value
among citizen it can bring better value
among citizen it can bring better value for the taxpayers and eventually it
for the taxpayers and eventually it
for the taxpayers and eventually it might increase the trust we have in our
might increase the trust we have in our
might increase the trust we have in our public authorities accountability was
public authorities accountability was
public authorities accountability was set in stone more than 200 years ago
set in stone more than 200 years ago
set in stone more than 200 years ago let’s make it real now thanks to you
let’s make it real now thanks to you
let’s make it real now thanks to you [Applause]
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