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The Great Rift: Art Versus Science | Beth Anderson | TEDxOakland


[Music]

[Music] it’s a lazy sultry afternoon in Maryland

it’s a lazy sultry afternoon in Maryland

it’s a lazy sultry afternoon in Maryland the lawnmowers of mowing the bees are

the lawnmowers of mowing the bees are

the lawnmowers of mowing the bees are buzzing and my husband Doug and I are

buzzing and my husband Doug and I are

buzzing and my husband Doug and I are sitting in my mom’s kitchen table but

sitting in my mom’s kitchen table but

sitting in my mom’s kitchen table but we’re not eating we’re on a conference

we’re not eating we’re on a conference

we’re not eating we’re on a conference call to artists and two rival

call to artists and two rival

call to artists and two rival geneticists who I will call Gunther and

geneticists who I will call Gunther and

geneticists who I will call Gunther and Shawn who are in the middle of a huge

Shawn who are in the middle of a huge

Shawn who are in the middle of a huge argument and as they really go at it

argument and as they really go at it

argument and as they really go at it I finally can’t stand it anymore and I

I finally can’t stand it anymore and I

I finally can’t stand it anymore and I blurt out which side is left behind we

blurt out which side is left behind we

blurt out which side is left behind we have to show something what they were

have to show something what they were

have to show something what they were arguing about was whether the sense or

arguing about was whether the sense or

arguing about was whether the sense or the anti sense side of RNA is left after

the anti sense side of RNA is left after

the anti sense side of RNA is left after being cleaved by Dicer and taken up by

being cleaved by Dicer and taken up by

being cleaved by Dicer and taken up by Argonaut RNA AI or RNA interference

Argonaut RNA AI or RNA interference

Argonaut RNA AI or RNA interference offers the promise of being able to shut

offers the promise of being able to shut

offers the promise of being able to shut down certain diseases by silencing

down certain diseases by silencing

down certain diseases by silencing proteins we were collaborating with

proteins we were collaborating with

proteins we were collaborating with Nature Reviews Genetics in London to

Nature Reviews Genetics in London to

Nature Reviews Genetics in London to build this animation and they had put us

build this animation and they had put us

build this animation and they had put us in touch with these experts to help us

in touch with these experts to help us

in touch with these experts to help us understand the science the fact that

understand the science the fact that

understand the science the fact that these scientists were arguing was not

these scientists were arguing was not

these scientists were arguing was not remarkable because they tend to argue an

remarkable because they tend to argue an

remarkable because they tend to argue an awful lot what was remarkable was that

awful lot what was remarkable was that

awful lot what was remarkable was that Doug and I as artists had posed the

Doug and I as artists had posed the

Doug and I as artists had posed the question which provoked that argument

question which provoked that argument

question which provoked that argument and in so doing at that kitchen table we

and in so doing at that kitchen table we

and in so doing at that kitchen table we found ourselves on the very edge of what

found ourselves on the very edge of what

found ourselves on the very edge of what was known it was remarkable it gave me

was known it was remarkable it gave me

was known it was remarkable it gave me for a split second what it might feel

for a split second what it might feel

for a split second what it might feel like to actually be a scientist on the

like to actually be a scientist on the

like to actually be a scientist on the edge of discovery and it also revealed

edge of discovery and it also revealed

edge of discovery and it also revealed to me the synergy between art and

to me the synergy between art and

to me the synergy between art and science a thought occurs to you it’s

science a thought occurs to you it’s

science a thought occurs to you it’s this beautiful little bubble you send

this beautiful little bubble you send

this beautiful little bubble you send that thought out into the world and what

that thought out into the world and what

that thought out into the world and what happens to it well most of the time they

happens to it well most of the time they

happens to it well most of the time they pop but sometimes that idea will float

pop but sometimes that idea will float

pop but sometimes that idea will float along

along

along and land on the far shore of another

and land on the far shore of another

and land on the far shore of another mind where it takes root and that idea

mind where it takes root and that idea

mind where it takes root and that idea blooms acquisition translation into

blooms acquisition translation into

blooms acquisition translation into comprehension and then that person may

comprehension and then that person may

comprehension and then that person may float an idea back to you

this mental game of catch is what makes

this mental game of catch is what makes science go but how do these ideas move

art is the air through which thoughts

art is the air through which thoughts float it boys them it wraps them in

float it boys them it wraps them in

float it boys them it wraps them in color shape context motion meaning for

color shape context motion meaning for

color shape context motion meaning for the rest of us it can inspire but it can

the rest of us it can inspire but it can

the rest of us it can inspire but it can also destroy that thought so thought so

also destroy that thought so thought so

also destroy that thought so thought so care has to be taken and I am NOT saying

care has to be taken and I am NOT saying

care has to be taken and I am NOT saying that art for art’s sake isn’t useful or

that art for art’s sake isn’t useful or

that art for art’s sake isn’t useful or valuable because it absolutely is art is

valuable because it absolutely is art is

valuable because it absolutely is art is oxygen we cannot survive without it but

oxygen we cannot survive without it but

oxygen we cannot survive without it but in the context of serving science

in the context of serving science

in the context of serving science conveying an idea from one mind to the

conveying an idea from one mind to the

conveying an idea from one mind to the next is arts mission art and science

next is arts mission art and science

next is arts mission art and science have a symbiotic relationship that

have a symbiotic relationship that

have a symbiotic relationship that cannot be overlooked but these two

cannot be overlooked but these two

cannot be overlooked but these two worlds have drifted apart what’s

worlds have drifted apart what’s

worlds have drifted apart what’s happened science is the collective

happened science is the collective

happened science is the collective curiosity of the human mind art is the

curiosity of the human mind art is the

curiosity of the human mind art is the soul of civilization there is not a

soul of civilization there is not a

soul of civilization there is not a single culture on this planet that

single culture on this planet that

single culture on this planet that doesn’t have one expression of art and

doesn’t have one expression of art and

doesn’t have one expression of art and one form of science however basic so how

one form of science however basic so how

one form of science however basic so how do we bring these worlds back together

do we bring these worlds back together

do we bring these worlds back together again

there’s a little town in Tennessee

there’s a little town in Tennessee called Oak Ridge it was part of the

called Oak Ridge it was part of the

called Oak Ridge it was part of the Manhattan Project during World War two a

Manhattan Project during World War two a

Manhattan Project during World War two a secret city there were more scientists

secret city there were more scientists

secret city there were more scientists mathematicians and engineers there than

mathematicians and engineers there than

mathematicians and engineers there than you could shake a stick at and I grew up

you could shake a stick at and I grew up

you could shake a stick at and I grew up there and I thought until I left Oak

there and I thought until I left Oak

there and I thought until I left Oak Ridge that everybody in the world was

Ridge that everybody in the world was

Ridge that everybody in the world was one of those I really did but life

one of those I really did but life

one of those I really did but life presented two paths to me art and

presented two paths to me art and

presented two paths to me art and science and I didn’t think I had what it

science and I didn’t think I had what it

science and I didn’t think I had what it took to be a scientist so I chose art I

took to be a scientist so I chose art I

took to be a scientist so I chose art I had so much support from my family and

had so much support from my family and

had so much support from my family and my friends but I somehow felt that I had

my friends but I somehow felt that I had

my friends but I somehow felt that I had chosen the lesser path and even though

chosen the lesser path and even though

chosen the lesser path and even though these people surrounding me thought that

these people surrounding me thought that

these people surrounding me thought that I could do no wrong

I could do no wrong

I could do no wrong it didn’t make sense to me I didn’t

it didn’t make sense to me I didn’t

it didn’t make sense to me I didn’t understand why I felt like what I was

understand why I felt like what I was

understand why I felt like what I was doing was less than and here’s why I

doing was less than and here’s why I

doing was less than and here’s why I finally figured it out society looks at

finally figured it out society looks at

finally figured it out society looks at art like it’s a luxury it’s really nice

art like it’s a luxury it’s really nice

art like it’s a luxury it’s really nice but it’s not that necessary for human

but it’s not that necessary for human

but it’s not that necessary for human survival science is this cold

survival science is this cold

survival science is this cold impenetrable box it’s threatening but

impenetrable box it’s threatening but

impenetrable box it’s threatening but it’s a necessary evil science is the

it’s a necessary evil science is the

it’s a necessary evil science is the realm of a fact and truth an art is

realm of a fact and truth an art is

realm of a fact and truth an art is beauty and fiction is that true

do you think art and science are equally

do you think art and science are equally valid you may not there are many people

valid you may not there are many people

valid you may not there are many people who don’t if you look deep down in your

who don’t if you look deep down in your

who don’t if you look deep down in your soul science is here arts here it’s

soul science is here arts here it’s

soul science is here arts here it’s really beautiful it may be off here

really beautiful it may be off here

really beautiful it may be off here somewhere

somewhere

somewhere but it’s like this so how has this

but it’s like this so how has this

but it’s like this so how has this happened why are these worlds so far

happened why are these worlds so far

happened why are these worlds so far apart from one another

scientists want nothing more in the

scientists want nothing more in the world than to tell you about what

world than to tell you about what

world than to tell you about what they’re working on they are dying to

they’re working on they are dying to

they’re working on they are dying to tell you but if you don’t know their

tell you but if you don’t know their

tell you but if you don’t know their language you can’t understand what

language you can’t understand what

language you can’t understand what they’re talking about because

they’re talking about because

they’re talking about because discovering something or inventing

discovering something or inventing

discovering something or inventing something is radically different from

something is radically different from

something is radically different from telling somebody about that which is

telling somebody about that which is

telling somebody about that which is altogether different from from showing

altogether different from from showing

altogether different from from showing somebody and science begs to be shown so

somebody and science begs to be shown so

somebody and science begs to be shown so all this was going on and it finally

all this was going on and it finally

all this was going on and it finally came to a head when I came across this

came to a head when I came across this

came to a head when I came across this book and it crystallized my thinking

book and it crystallized my thinking

book and it crystallized my thinking about what happened to these two worlds

about what happened to these two worlds

about what happened to these two worlds in the 17th and 18th century in London

in the 17th and 18th century in London

in the 17th and 18th century in London the Royal Society science the Royal

the Royal Society science the Royal

the Royal Society science the Royal Academy art lived in the same building

Academy art lived in the same building

Academy art lived in the same building called Somerset house I would have given

called Somerset house I would have given

called Somerset house I would have given anything in the world to walk down the

anything in the world to walk down the

anything in the world to walk down the halls of this place where these

halls of this place where these

halls of this place where these scientists and artists were

scientists and artists were

scientists and artists were collaborating they had studios they had

collaborating they had studios they had

collaborating they had studios they had laboratories they were experimenting

laboratories they were experimenting

laboratories they were experimenting together and they viewed one another as

together and they viewed one another as

together and they viewed one another as equals because they were equals because

equals because they were equals because

equals because they were equals because most of them were both then both groups

most of them were both then both groups

most of them were both then both groups got bigger and in 1837 the Royal Academy

got bigger and in 1837 the Royal Academy

got bigger and in 1837 the Royal Academy moved out that is the year market that

moved out that is the year market that

moved out that is the year market that is the year where these two worlds began

is the year where these two worlds began

is the year where these two worlds began their tectonic shift away from one

their tectonic shift away from one

their tectonic shift away from one another

another

another and even though there are people who are

and even though there are people who are

and even though there are people who are trying to bridge this divide and there

trying to bridge this divide and there

trying to bridge this divide and there are a lot of them I think that in

are a lot of them I think that in

are a lot of them I think that in society these days these worlds have

society these days these worlds have

society these days these worlds have never been farther apart but the truth

never been farther apart but the truth

never been farther apart but the truth of the matter is as humans and we are

of the matter is as humans and we are

of the matter is as humans and we are all humans we require stories I find it

all humans we require stories I find it

all humans we require stories I find it fascinating that there are this many

fascinating that there are this many

fascinating that there are this many synonyms for the word story and that’s

synonyms for the word story and that’s

synonyms for the word story and that’s just the English language we need them

just the English language we need them

just the English language we need them to process and understand information I

to process and understand information I

to process and understand information I have one of the most fascinating stories

have one of the most fascinating stories

have one of the most fascinating stories that I’ve ever heard and it’s happening

that I’ve ever heard and it’s happening

that I’ve ever heard and it’s happening inside every single one of us right now

inside every single one of us right now

inside every single one of us right now it’s called your immune system it’s not

it’s called your immune system it’s not

it’s called your immune system it’s not called the forever war for nothing

called the forever war for nothing

called the forever war for nothing because it never ends

because it never ends

because it never ends there is no command center you just have

there is no command center you just have

there is no command center you just have millions of little cells all working

millions of little cells all working

millions of little cells all working together with one purpose in mind if

together with one purpose in mind if

together with one purpose in mind if that’s to keep you alive from one more

that’s to keep you alive from one more

that’s to keep you alive from one more day if the system says the wrong thing

day if the system says the wrong thing

day if the system says the wrong thing or stops talking

or stops talking

or stops talking that’s when disease can happen and it’s

that’s when disease can happen and it’s

that’s when disease can happen and it’s kind of like society you have these bad

kind of like society you have these bad

kind of like society you have these bad elements but sigh society will usually

elements but sigh society will usually

elements but sigh society will usually take care of that but when society

take care of that but when society

take care of that but when society doesn’t deal with that well enough

doesn’t deal with that well enough

doesn’t deal with that well enough that’s when you get things like cancer

that’s when you get things like cancer

that’s when you get things like cancer cells which can basically get away with

cells which can basically get away with

cells which can basically get away with murder or you have psoriasis this

murder or you have psoriasis this

murder or you have psoriasis this autoimmune disease tricks your system

autoimmune disease tricks your system

autoimmune disease tricks your system into thinking that you are the bad guy

into thinking that you are the bad guy

into thinking that you are the bad guy and you go after yourself or say you

and you go after yourself or say you

and you go after yourself or say you have an allergy you breathe something in

have an allergy you breathe something in

have an allergy you breathe something in your body goes into hyperdrive

your body goes into hyperdrive

your body goes into hyperdrive you have mast cells that start spilling

you have mast cells that start spilling

you have mast cells that start spilling out cytokines and histamines you feel

out cytokines and histamines you feel

out cytokines and histamines you feel awful or you may have a really bad

awful or you may have a really bad

awful or you may have a really bad infection and you send in the big guns

infection and you send in the big guns

infection and you send in the big guns which are neutrophils nature’s little

which are neutrophils nature’s little

which are neutrophils nature’s little cluster bombs which blow up and just

cluster bombs which blow up and just

cluster bombs which blow up and just destroy everything in an area to give

destroy everything in an area to give

destroy everything in an area to give you a chance to reset this is full-scale

you a chance to reset this is full-scale

you a chance to reset this is full-scale war going on inside of you all the time

war going on inside of you all the time

war going on inside of you all the time and you generally don’t know it unless

and you generally don’t know it unless

and you generally don’t know it unless you feel really bad these are classic

you feel really bad these are classic

you feel really bad these are classic story lines of birth death betrayal

story lines of birth death betrayal

story lines of birth death betrayal subterfuge mimicry heroics

subterfuge mimicry heroics

subterfuge mimicry heroics self-sacrifice and the fact that these

self-sacrifice and the fact that these

self-sacrifice and the fact that these stories are real is what makes them all

stories are real is what makes them all

stories are real is what makes them all the more compelling and art can show

the more compelling and art can show

the more compelling and art can show that to people I think this guy said it

that to people I think this guy said it

that to people I think this guy said it best study the signs of art study the

best study the signs of art study the

best study the signs of art study the art of science develop your senses

art of science develop your senses

art of science develop your senses especially learn how to see realize that

especially learn how to see realize that

especially learn how to see realize that everything is connected to everything

everything is connected to everything

everything is connected to everything else you we have the capacity to fold

else you we have the capacity to fold

else you we have the capacity to fold that thought into every waking moment

that thought into every waking moment

that thought into every waking moment and here’s why that’s important art can

and here’s why that’s important art can

and here’s why that’s important art can entice people to pay attention to

entice people to pay attention to

entice people to pay attention to science of those people some are gonna

science of those people some are gonna

science of those people some are gonna turn into scientists and they will solve

turn into scientists and they will solve

turn into scientists and they will solve some of the big problems we’ve got going

some of the big problems we’ve got going

some of the big problems we’ve got going on right now other people will be

on right now other people will be

on right now other people will be artists they will illuminate the science

artists they will illuminate the science

artists they will illuminate the science for other people so that they have an

for other people so that they have an

for other people so that they have an appreciation for it there are three

appreciation for it there are three

appreciation for it there are three things I would love for you to think

things I would love for you to think

things I would love for you to think about and do learn more science than you

about and do learn more science than you

about and do learn more science than you already know it’s not that hard there’s

already know it’s not that hard there’s

already know it’s not that hard there’s a lot of it out there make or find some

a lot of it out there make or find some

a lot of it out there make or find some art that will explain something that you

art that will explain something that you

art that will explain something that you learned to somebody else and then do

learned to somebody else and then do

learned to somebody else and then do that take that art and explain it to

that take that art and explain it to

that take that art and explain it to your brother your husband your child

your brother your husband your child

your brother your husband your child your grandmother your friend your

your grandmother your friend your

your grandmother your friend your co-worker share that experience of

co-worker share that experience of

co-worker share that experience of wonder

we are all members of the most

we are all members of the most technologically and scientifically

technologically and scientifically

technologically and scientifically advanced civilization that this planet

advanced civilization that this planet

advanced civilization that this planet has ever known

has ever known

has ever known we all have brains we all have power and

we all have brains we all have power and

we all have brains we all have power and we all have creativity use it own it

we all have creativity use it own it

we all have creativity use it own it make things better float that bubble out

make things better float that bubble out

make things better float that bubble out in the world and see what ideas bloom

in the world and see what ideas bloom

in the world and see what ideas bloom thank you

thank you

thank you [Applause]

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