hi everyone how are you doing okay great great
great
great so having fallen asleep from snacks yet
so having fallen asleep from snacks yet
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squit so thank thanks so much for having me
so thank thanks so much for having me
so thank thanks so much for having me it’s it’s really great to be at a UW see
it’s it’s really great to be at a UW see
it’s it’s really great to be at a UW see to you know be involved in it for so
to you know be involved in it for so
to you know be involved in it for so long as well just wanted to share a
long as well just wanted to share a
long as well just wanted to share a little bit today about my experience
little bit today about my experience
little bit today about my experience coming from UW see into what I’m doing
coming from UW see into what I’m doing
coming from UW see into what I’m doing today right which is very much what many
today right which is very much what many
today right which is very much what many of you have also gone through in the
of you have also gone through in the
of you have also gone through in the ideas of becoming a social entrepreneur
ideas of becoming a social entrepreneur
ideas of becoming a social entrepreneur what it takes what to do and what to
what it takes what to do and what to
what it takes what to do and what to look out for but just to add on a little
look out for but just to add on a little
look out for but just to add on a little flavor to the context of what you’re
flavor to the context of what you’re
flavor to the context of what you’re studying just want to give you a flavor
studying just want to give you a flavor
studying just want to give you a flavor of exactly what is actually happening
of exactly what is actually happening
of exactly what is actually happening out there in Asia when we talk about
out there in Asia when we talk about
out there in Asia when we talk about social impact there’s a lot of good
social impact there’s a lot of good
social impact there’s a lot of good things out there but really today we’re
things out there but really today we’re
things out there but really today we’re really at the crossroad at figuring out
really at the crossroad at figuring out
really at the crossroad at figuring out how do we do impact respectfully with
how do we do impact respectfully with
how do we do impact respectfully with dignity and innovatively and with we’re
dignity and innovatively and with we’re
dignity and innovatively and with we’re trying to figure out a lot of things
trying to figure out a lot of things
trying to figure out a lot of things where it’s a nascent industry everyone’s
where it’s a nascent industry everyone’s
where it’s a nascent industry everyone’s trying to figure out what is good what
trying to figure out what is good what
trying to figure out what is good what is not so good and we’ve got to talk
is not so good and we’ve got to talk
is not so good and we’ve got to talk about the good the bad and a little bit
about the good the bad and a little bit
about the good the bad and a little bit of the ugly the interesting thing about
of the ugly the interesting thing about
of the ugly the interesting thing about now is that there’s so much interest
now is that there’s so much interest
now is that there’s so much interest coming into the space a lot of people
coming into the space a lot of people
coming into the space a lot of people pouring money into it but really my job
pouring money into it but really my job
pouring money into it but really my job here isn’t to tell you that there’s so
here isn’t to tell you that there’s so
here isn’t to tell you that there’s so much opportunity out there and it’s not
much opportunity out there and it’s not
much opportunity out there and it’s not about telling you that impact investing
about telling you that impact investing
about telling you that impact investing is going to change the world of social
is going to change the world of social
is going to change the world of social entrepreneurs but the fact is that it
entrepreneurs but the fact is that it
entrepreneurs but the fact is that it still depends or who you are as a social
still depends or who you are as a social
still depends or who you are as a social entrepreneur to make the next big thing
entrepreneur to make the next big thing
entrepreneur to make the next big thing happen it’s not about the money right
happen it’s not about the money right
happen it’s not about the money right but so I just want to share a couple of
but so I just want to share a couple of
but so I just want to share a couple of experiences well of what we’ve been
experiences well of what we’ve been
experiences well of what we’ve been doing in Asia but to start off I think
doing in Asia but to start off I think
doing in Asia but to start off I think let me just stop by saying you know I’ve
let me just stop by saying you know I’ve
let me just stop by saying you know I’ve had a absolute privilege of being part
had a absolute privilege of being part
had a absolute privilege of being part of different nonprofits and charities
of different nonprofits and charities
of different nonprofits and charities and for many years you know for example
and for many years you know for example
and for many years you know for example I’ve been on the advisory board for
I’ve been on the advisory board for
I’ve been on the advisory board for education nonprofit and you know as I
education nonprofit and you know as I
education nonprofit and you know as I said their philosophy series I can tell
said their philosophy series I can tell
said their philosophy series I can tell you with certainty then six is time
you with certainty then six is time
you with certainty then six is time we’re going to be around the
we’re going to be around the
we’re going to be around the organization’s can be pretty darn good
organization’s can be pretty darn good
organization’s can be pretty darn good you’ll be there but I kind of get
you’ll be there but I kind of get
you’ll be there but I kind of get and tea a couple of things and first is
and tea a couple of things and first is
and tea a couple of things and first is this I can guarantee that in six years
this I can guarantee that in six years
this I can guarantee that in six years time the kind of impact that you’re
time the kind of impact that you’re
time the kind of impact that you’re doing today will it be as strong
doing today will it be as strong
doing today will it be as strong tomorrow or at least the same that’s
tomorrow or at least the same that’s
tomorrow or at least the same that’s really difficult it’s really difficult
really difficult it’s really difficult
really difficult it’s really difficult to secure why well what we’ve been doing
to secure why well what we’ve been doing
to secure why well what we’ve been doing wrong for last many many years at least
wrong for last many many years at least
wrong for last many many years at least you know within our part of the world
you know within our part of the world
you know within our part of the world and then I think many other charities
and then I think many other charities
and then I think many other charities with a bit more of conventional view is
with a bit more of conventional view is
with a bit more of conventional view is that for many years we thought hey we
that for many years we thought hey we
that for many years we thought hey we had a twenty million budget let’s go out
had a twenty million budget let’s go out
had a twenty million budget let’s go out there and raise twenty million dollars
there and raise twenty million dollars
there and raise twenty million dollars and then we raised that for the last
and then we raised that for the last
and then we raised that for the last five ten years and at some point someone
five ten years and at some point someone
five ten years and at some point someone woke up and said hey we have 20 million
woke up and said hey we have 20 million
woke up and said hey we have 20 million the same as we did about ten years ago
the same as we did about ten years ago
the same as we did about ten years ago actually twenty million dollars isn’t
actually twenty million dollars isn’t
actually twenty million dollars isn’t the same as it used to be this is
the same as it used to be this is
the same as it used to be this is concept call inflation right it’s just
concept call inflation right it’s just
concept call inflation right it’s just not the same anymore right there’s no
not the same anymore right there’s no
not the same anymore right there’s no bang for your buck anymore
bang for your buck anymore
bang for your buck anymore it’s twenty million before not the same
it’s twenty million before not the same
it’s twenty million before not the same today that’s the first a second of all
today that’s the first a second of all
today that’s the first a second of all is when we first saw the journey of the
is when we first saw the journey of the
is when we first saw the journey of the of the charity twenty million dollars
of the charity twenty million dollars
of the charity twenty million dollars was also on the basis that everybody was
was also on the basis that everybody was
was also on the basis that everybody was salary at a level where they’re living
salary at a level where they’re living
salary at a level where they’re living on the passion more than really on the
on the passion more than really on the
on the passion more than really on the salary at some point somebody’s going to
salary at some point somebody’s going to
salary at some point somebody’s going to realize that and the site well okay I
realize that and the site well okay I
realize that and the site well okay I need to actually have have a decent life
need to actually have have a decent life
need to actually have have a decent life I need to keep going and for a charity
I need to keep going and for a charity
I need to keep going and for a charity or for organization the most important
or for organization the most important
or for organization the most important thing isn’t just about what you’re doing
thing isn’t just about what you’re doing
thing isn’t just about what you’re doing well it’s also about the people you’re
well it’s also about the people you’re
well it’s also about the people you’re trying to support are we supporting the
trying to support are we supporting the
trying to support are we supporting the caregivers so those people saw leaving
caregivers so those people saw leaving
caregivers so those people saw leaving and then there was another problem after
and then there was another problem after
and then there was another problem after that right so it wasn’t a bang for your
that right so it wasn’t a bang for your
that right so it wasn’t a bang for your buck and then enough that people start
buck and then enough that people start
buck and then enough that people start leaving and then what else is next well
leaving and then what else is next well
leaving and then what else is next well what else is next is then you were not
what else is next is then you were not
what else is next is then you were not thinking long term then suddenly your
thinking long term then suddenly your
thinking long term then suddenly your evolution of the organization was
evolution of the organization was
evolution of the organization was slowing down and you were not long-term
slowing down and you were not long-term
slowing down and you were not long-term in thinking about what’s next as well
in thinking about what’s next as well
in thinking about what’s next as well and suddenly many of them were
and suddenly many of them were
and suddenly many of them were diminishing not just in terms of the
diminishing not just in terms of the
diminishing not just in terms of the budget but also in terms of the impact
budget but also in terms of the impact
budget but also in terms of the impact and that’s a real challenge in itself so
and that’s a real challenge in itself so
and that’s a real challenge in itself so hopefully I like to leave you with a
hopefully I like to leave you with a
hopefully I like to leave you with a couple points today about you know what
couple points today about you know what
couple points today about you know what it means to be doing proper and
it means to be doing proper and
it means to be doing proper and hopefully thinking about what it means
hopefully thinking about what it means
hopefully thinking about what it means to be doing impact can we do that a
to be doing impact can we do that a
to be doing impact can we do that a little bit more we’re not at that stage
little bit more we’re not at that stage
little bit more we’re not at that stage yet today where we can say that well
yet today where we can say that well
yet today where we can say that well you know I think this enterprise is
you know I think this enterprise is
you know I think this enterprise is doing a little bit more than that we’re
doing a little bit more than that we’re
doing a little bit more than that we’re not asking you to quantify it either but
not asking you to quantify it either but
not asking you to quantify it either but I would say that as future social
I would say that as future social
I would say that as future social entrepreneurs can we say we can go the
entrepreneurs can we say we can go the
entrepreneurs can we say we can go the extra mile to do a little bit more right
extra mile to do a little bit more right
extra mile to do a little bit more right in your business so the couple of
in your business so the couple of
in your business so the couple of interesting things that you know in my
interesting things that you know in my
interesting things that you know in my experience I’ve learned do we get the
experience I’ve learned do we get the
experience I’ve learned do we get the slides the first is actually in it goes
slides the first is actually in it goes
slides the first is actually in it goes all the way back to when I was in
all the way back to when I was in
all the way back to when I was in university and East Timor NEC more what
university and East Timor NEC more what
university and East Timor NEC more what we did was econometrics project with and
we did was econometrics project with and
we did was econometrics project with and I was helping my professor Brenda and
I was helping my professor Brenda and
I was helping my professor Brenda and Monash University in Australia and he’s
Monash University in Australia and he’s
Monash University in Australia and he’s a fabulous guy and one of the
a fabulous guy and one of the
a fabulous guy and one of the interesting things we found was you know
interesting things we found was you know
interesting things we found was you know I mean it was a beautiful country lots
I mean it was a beautiful country lots
I mean it was a beautiful country lots of opportunities there with coffee if
of opportunities there with coffee if
of opportunities there with coffee if you don’t know that’s a lot of East
you don’t know that’s a lot of East
you don’t know that’s a lot of East Timor coffee that goes into many blends
Timor coffee that goes into many blends
Timor coffee that goes into many blends in the world like well anybody yeah and
in the world like well anybody yeah and
in the world like well anybody yeah and you know one of the interesting things
you know one of the interesting things
you know one of the interesting things about East Timor coffee is of course
about East Timor coffee is of course
about East Timor coffee is of course they’re all done by mostly small farmer
they’re all done by mostly small farmer
they’re all done by mostly small farmer households now at some point an
households now at some point an
households now at some point an organization said hey you know we wanted
organization said hey you know we wanted
organization said hey you know we wanted to help our social entrepreneurs so what
to help our social entrepreneurs so what
to help our social entrepreneurs so what they did was they actually bought then
they did was they actually bought then
they did was they actually bought then these machines called pulping machines
these machines called pulping machines
these machines called pulping machines it’s a manual pulping machine so what is
it’s a manual pulping machine so what is
it’s a manual pulping machine so what is it so coffee comes as fruit and inside
it so coffee comes as fruit and inside
it so coffee comes as fruit and inside there’s a bean right put it into pulping
there’s a bean right put it into pulping
there’s a bean right put it into pulping machine you take off all the flesh and
machine you take off all the flesh and
machine you take off all the flesh and you get a bean brilliant thing that’s
you get a bean brilliant thing that’s
you get a bean brilliant thing that’s what you basically roast now the
what you basically roast now the
what you basically roast now the interesting thing about that is reason
interesting thing about that is reason
interesting thing about that is reason for doing that is the thinking was if we
for doing that is the thinking was if we
for doing that is the thinking was if we could actually increase the revenue for
could actually increase the revenue for
could actually increase the revenue for the farmer what would we need to do so
the farmer what would we need to do so
the farmer what would we need to do so you actually create a value process for
you actually create a value process for
you actually create a value process for them because if if someone bought in the
them because if if someone bought in the
them because if if someone bought in the market just the fruit with the pulp it
market just the fruit with the pulp it
market just the fruit with the pulp it costs less than if you gave them the
costs less than if you gave them the
costs less than if you gave them the bean but the interesting thing about
bean but the interesting thing about
bean but the interesting thing about that is we found actually the people who
that is we found actually the people who
that is we found actually the people who were being given these sub helping
were being given these sub helping
were being given these sub helping machines right they were actually the
machines right they were actually the
machines right they were actually the people who are closest to the market so
people who are closest to the market so
people who are closest to the market so what does that mean
what does that mean
what does that mean it meant that the people who are
it meant that the people who are
it meant that the people who are actually getting these pulping machines
actually getting these pulping machines
actually getting these pulping machines one of the benefits of pulping machines
one of the benefits of pulping machines
one of the benefits of pulping machines also is that it helps preserve the the
also is that it helps preserve the the
also is that it helps preserve the the beam because when you know you start
beam because when you know you start
beam because when you know you start transporting it at long distances the
transporting it at long distances the
transporting it at long distances the flesh and the pulp actually starts to
flesh and the pulp actually starts to
flesh and the pulp actually starts to rot so you don’t want to bring it to
rot so you don’t want to bring it to
rot so you don’t want to bring it to market looking really bad right it gives
market looking really bad right it gives
market looking really bad right it gives you a very low price it actually helps
you a very low price it actually helps
you a very low price it actually helps if you actually pulped it but the people
if you actually pulped it but the people
if you actually pulped it but the people who are actually going out and giving
who are actually going out and giving
who are actually going out and giving these pulping machines we’re only giving
these pulping machines we’re only giving
these pulping machines we’re only giving it to the people nearest the market so
it to the people nearest the market so
it to the people nearest the market so the people who really need it were
the people who really need it were
the people who really need it were really far out very far away right and
really far out very far away right and
really far out very far away right and when we first met them the first thing
when we first met them the first thing
when we first met them the first thing you said to us was hey that’s great
you said to us was hey that’s great
you said to us was hey that’s great stuff we’re doing here these pulping
stuff we’re doing here these pulping
stuff we’re doing here these pulping machines were making them get more money
machines were making them get more money
machines were making them get more money and through the studies we found that
and through the studies we found that
and through the studies we found that actually they were getting less money
actually they were getting less money
actually they were getting less money we’re getting less money because when
we’re getting less money because when
we’re getting less money because when they stopped helping these fruits they
they stopped helping these fruits they
they stopped helping these fruits they actually have good beans and not-so-good
actually have good beans and not-so-good
actually have good beans and not-so-good beans poor quality and when you start
beans poor quality and when you start
beans poor quality and when you start mixing the two together it becomes a
mixing the two together it becomes a
mixing the two together it becomes a problem because your price of the coffee
problem because your price of the coffee
problem because your price of the coffee actually goes down so when you think you
actually goes down so when you think you
actually goes down so when you think you are actually helping them you’re
are actually helping them you’re
are actually helping them you’re actually getting getting them less money
actually getting getting them less money
actually getting getting them less money because poor coffee by itself will just
because poor coffee by itself will just
because poor coffee by itself will just drop the price completely so my message
drop the price completely so my message
drop the price completely so my message on that is you know we think sometimes
on that is you know we think sometimes
on that is you know we think sometimes we’re doing really good with with things
we’re doing really good with with things
we’re doing really good with with things but the question is really are we making
but the question is really are we making
but the question is really are we making that significant impact right and the
that significant impact right and the
that significant impact right and the second of all when we look at impact
second of all when we look at impact
second of all when we look at impact investing is that you know one thing is
investing is that you know one thing is
investing is that you know one thing is this money is stupid doesn’t mean
this money is stupid doesn’t mean
this money is stupid doesn’t mean anything if you’re not using it for the
anything if you’re not using it for the
anything if you’re not using it for the right reasons
right reasons
right reasons you’re not going to get the effects
you’re not going to get the effects
you’re not going to get the effects you’re looking for now why is that
you’re looking for now why is that
you’re looking for now why is that now I’m the impact investor here I’m
now I’m the impact investor here I’m
now I’m the impact investor here I’m telling you that actually I’m not that
telling you that actually I’m not that
telling you that actually I’m not that most important person out there but
most important person out there but
most important person out there but actually it’s true because smart
actually it’s true because smart
actually it’s true because smart solutions sometimes need not cost and if
solutions sometimes need not cost and if
solutions sometimes need not cost and if you’re looking to be a social
you’re looking to be a social
you’re looking to be a social entrepreneur what’s more important is
entrepreneur what’s more important is
entrepreneur what’s more important is what you’re going to do how are you
what you’re going to do how are you
what you’re going to do how are you going to do it and what you’re trying to
going to do it and what you’re trying to
going to do it and what you’re trying to achieve so one of the things that we
achieve so one of the things that we
achieve so one of the things that we found for example many people talking
found for example many people talking
found for example many people talking about education it’s very very important
about education it’s very very important
about education it’s very very important for all of us
for all of us
for all of us right but in fact what we found this
right but in fact what we found this
right but in fact what we found this that if you’re trying to make a
that if you’re trying to make a
that if you’re trying to make a difference for someone in a school the
difference for someone in a school the
difference for someone in a school the real actual
real actual
real actual results you get isn’t about how much
results you get isn’t about how much
results you get isn’t about how much money is spending on the school building
money is spending on the school building
money is spending on the school building on infrastructure on textbooks on
on infrastructure on textbooks on
on infrastructure on textbooks on pedagogy it’s actually just teachers
pedagogy it’s actually just teachers
pedagogy it’s actually just teachers giving feedback in the classroom and if
giving feedback in the classroom and if
giving feedback in the classroom and if you look at the diagram behind me it’s
you look at the diagram behind me it’s
you look at the diagram behind me it’s actually the least cost effect it’s the
actually the least cost effect it’s the
actually the least cost effect it’s the most cost effective of all the different
most cost effective of all the different
most cost effective of all the different things that people are trying to do we
things that people are trying to do we
things that people are trying to do we have a world today where we’re chucking
have a world today where we’re chucking
have a world today where we’re chucking so much money into education and yet
so much money into education and yet
so much money into education and yet results are just getting diminished all
results are just getting diminished all
results are just getting diminished all the time for some countries and we keep
the time for some countries and we keep
the time for some countries and we keep asking why well the easiest answer is
asking why well the easiest answer is
asking why well the easiest answer is that smart solutions don’t cost it is
that smart solutions don’t cost it is
that smart solutions don’t cost it is actually exactly about finding the right
actually exactly about finding the right
actually exactly about finding the right solution for the people the other
solution for the people the other
solution for the people the other element then we we go on to is this
element then we we go on to is this
element then we we go on to is this right be transformative what does it
right be transformative what does it
right be transformative what does it mean to be transformative in that sense
one thing is that one thing that we
one thing is that one thing that we don’t support for the social impact
don’t support for the social impact
don’t support for the social impact sector at least for us is we don’t
sector at least for us is we don’t
sector at least for us is we don’t support say a buy one get one free right
support say a buy one get one free right
support say a buy one get one free right so if I I bought this pair of spectacles
so if I I bought this pair of spectacles
so if I I bought this pair of spectacles somebody else in India China will get
somebody else in India China will get
somebody else in India China will get past spectacles now why is that
past spectacles now why is that
past spectacles now why is that something that we we don’t support well
something that we we don’t support well
something that we we don’t support well there’s an opportunity right there the
there’s an opportunity right there the
there’s an opportunity right there the question is you know in in Africa for
question is you know in in Africa for
question is you know in in Africa for example you know when there was so much
example you know when there was so much
example you know when there was so much eight that went down there was this
eight that went down there was this
eight that went down there was this charity mindset that was created now in
charity mindset that was created now in
charity mindset that was created now in the same regard why would you have a
the same regard why would you have a
the same regard why would you have a business where I buy one and I give a
business where I buy one and I give a
business where I buy one and I give a handout on the other now there’s a lot
handout on the other now there’s a lot
handout on the other now there’s a lot of research on this but it needs to be
of research on this but it needs to be
of research on this but it needs to be drummed down because still today we have
drummed down because still today we have
drummed down because still today we have sochi enterprises coming up to us saying
sochi enterprises coming up to us saying
sochi enterprises coming up to us saying that we’re social enterprise what do you
that we’re social enterprise what do you
that we’re social enterprise what do you do well we you know have this product we
do well we you know have this product we
do well we you know have this product we have one sandal here you buy it and then
have one sandal here you buy it and then
have one sandal here you buy it and then we’ll give a pair of somebody else so
we’ll give a pair of somebody else so
we’ll give a pair of somebody else so the question is this right when when I
the question is this right when when I
the question is this right when when I was in East Timor walking around there
was in East Timor walking around there
was in East Timor walking around there be kids who stick out the hand and ask
be kids who stick out the hand and ask
be kids who stick out the hand and ask you right can I get a suite and then I
you right can I get a suite and then I
you right can I get a suite and then I was fiddling my pocket and then the
was fiddling my pocket and then the
was fiddling my pocket and then the other kid came out and says actually I
other kid came out and says actually I
other kid came out and says actually I prefer USD you mean US dollars yeah okay
prefer USD you mean US dollars yeah okay
prefer USD you mean US dollars yeah okay okay well I don’t have that one you know
okay well I don’t have that one you know
okay well I don’t have that one you know that’s not a mentality we’re looking for
that’s not a mentality we’re looking for
that’s not a mentality we’re looking for a transformative experience in trance
a transformative experience in trance
a transformative experience in trance impact that we’re looking for is this if
impact that we’re looking for is this if
impact that we’re looking for is this if you are trying to solve homelessness for
you are trying to solve homelessness for
you are trying to solve homelessness for example one of the biggest challenges of
example one of the biggest challenges of
example one of the biggest challenges of homelessness is that I think in the UK
homelessness is that I think in the UK
homelessness is that I think in the UK found in the 90s that about 50% of the
found in the 90s that about 50% of the
found in the 90s that about 50% of the people who were rehoused actually came
people who were rehoused actually came
people who were rehoused actually came out of being being rehoused even though
out of being being rehoused even though
out of being being rehoused even though they had a house in their name they
they had a house in their name they
they had a house in their name they decided not to partly because mental
decided not to partly because mental
decided not to partly because mental illness partly because there were some
illness partly because there were some
illness partly because there were some challenges with you know paying the rent
challenges with you know paying the rent
challenges with you know paying the rent and the other bit was because of the
and the other bit was because of the
and the other bit was because of the fact that they didn’t have a support
fact that they didn’t have a support
fact that they didn’t have a support system for living at home so most of
system for living at home so most of
system for living at home so most of them actually leave the house even
them actually leave the house even
them actually leave the house even though the gifted one the interesting
though the gifted one the interesting
though the gifted one the interesting thing about that is if you are trying to
thing about that is if you are trying to
thing about that is if you are trying to solve it and I gave you a house doesn’t
solve it and I gave you a house doesn’t
solve it and I gave you a house doesn’t got the house and they’re going to move
got the house and they’re going to move
got the house and they’re going to move out immediately what’s the point what
out immediately what’s the point what
out immediately what’s the point what the interesting thing you have with say
the interesting thing you have with say
the interesting thing you have with say Australia is a organisation called mr.
Australia is a organisation called mr.
Australia is a organisation called mr. in Australia where the main goal is
in Australia where the main goal is
in Australia where the main goal is about recess lling people giving them
about recess lling people giving them
about recess lling people giving them back the dignity and helping them with
back the dignity and helping them with
back the dignity and helping them with homelessness because it’s not just about
homelessness because it’s not just about
homelessness because it’s not just about having a home it’s also creating support
having a home it’s also creating support
having a home it’s also creating support network it’s also making sure that
network it’s also making sure that
network it’s also making sure that someone’s looking after them if they
someone’s looking after them if they
someone’s looking after them if they have a mental disability and also
have a mental disability and also
have a mental disability and also settling them helping them look for a
settling them helping them look for a
settling them helping them look for a job and at the same time ensuring that
job and at the same time ensuring that
job and at the same time ensuring that they are going to the job successful
they are going to the job successful
they are going to the job successful preparing them for the job giving them
preparing them for the job giving them
preparing them for the job giving them tips and teaching them you know how it
tips and teaching them you know how it
tips and teaching them you know how it is in terms of their job skill set as
is in terms of their job skill set as
is in terms of their job skill set as well so it’s not easy being
well so it’s not easy being
well so it’s not easy being transformative isn’t just about giving
transformative isn’t just about giving
transformative isn’t just about giving it’s not charity right and that’s what a
it’s not charity right and that’s what a
it’s not charity right and that’s what a social enterprise is also about it’s not
social enterprise is also about it’s not
social enterprise is also about it’s not about charity is about how we change
about charity is about how we change
about charity is about how we change people’s thinking about it so last last
people’s thinking about it so last last
people’s thinking about it so last last of all is is some another point on on
of all is is some another point on on
of all is is some another point on on trailblazing and taking lead for us if
trailblazing and taking lead for us if
trailblazing and taking lead for us if you are choosing to be a social
you are choosing to be a social
you are choosing to be a social entrepreneur that couple of things in
entrepreneur that couple of things in
entrepreneur that couple of things in mind it’s a not easy right
mind it’s a not easy right
mind it’s a not easy right I can tell you that right it is always a
I can tell you that right it is always a
I can tell you that right it is always a new way of doing things because someone
new way of doing things because someone
new way of doing things because someone hasn’t done it yet you know if you’re
hasn’t done it yet you know if you’re
hasn’t done it yet you know if you’re trying to solve homelessness gambling
trying to solve homelessness gambling
trying to solve homelessness gambling shoes even down to poverty the challenge
shoes even down to poverty the challenge
shoes even down to poverty the challenge with a social entrepreneur is not just
with a social entrepreneur is not just
with a social entrepreneur is not just having a good business but also a good
having a good business but also a good
having a good business but also a good business that’s targeted to it’s making
business that’s targeted to it’s making
business that’s targeted to it’s making sure that in creating an impact that
sure that in creating an impact that
sure that in creating an impact that you’re looking for so let me give you
you’re looking for so let me give you
you’re looking for so let me give you this final takeaway I’m slightly bias
this final takeaway I’m slightly bias
this final takeaway I’m slightly bias this wonderful lady lucky from Sri Lanka
this wonderful lady lucky from Sri Lanka
this wonderful lady lucky from Sri Lanka I work with on the board we do a company
I work with on the board we do a company
I work with on the board we do a company in biomass and biomass it’s actually one
in biomass and biomass it’s actually one
in biomass and biomass it’s actually one of the dirtiest words out there you cut
of the dirtiest words out there you cut
of the dirtiest words out there you cut a tree down you burn it that’s it right
a tree down you burn it that’s it right
a tree down you burn it that’s it right probably not the most sustainable of
probably not the most sustainable of
probably not the most sustainable of them all but in fact what we did was
them all but in fact what we did was
them all but in fact what we did was look that a barren land piece like this
look that a barren land piece like this
look that a barren land piece like this entry in trincomalee with the
entry in trincomalee with the
entry in trincomalee with the post-conflict area of Sri Lanka how we
post-conflict area of Sri Lanka how we
post-conflict area of Sri Lanka how we can change that landscape from barren
can change that landscape from barren
can change that landscape from barren land to something like this were you
land to something like this were you
land to something like this were you growing a trees the specific tree which
growing a trees the specific tree which
growing a trees the specific tree which grows very quickly in Kenya is a lie
grows very quickly in Kenya is a lie
grows very quickly in Kenya is a lie fence what happened was she decided that
fence what happened was she decided that
fence what happened was she decided that when she first started let’s try
when she first started let’s try
when she first started let’s try planting this tree because supply is a
planting this tree because supply is a
planting this tree because supply is a big big issue in say Sri Lanka everybody
big big issue in say Sri Lanka everybody
big big issue in say Sri Lanka everybody basically told her it’s it can be done
basically told her it’s it can be done
basically told her it’s it can be done right you know biomass everyone’s tried
right you know biomass everyone’s tried
right you know biomass everyone’s tried it it’s not going to work and she said
it it’s not going to work and she said
it it’s not going to work and she said well no no that’s not that’s not right
well no no that’s not that’s not right
well no no that’s not that’s not right doesn’t make sense
doesn’t make sense
doesn’t make sense there must be a better way and she went
there must be a better way and she went
there must be a better way and she went out and she found that actually this
out and she found that actually this
out and she found that actually this tree is a really good source of least
tree is a really good source of least
tree is a really good source of least not highly nitrogenous leaves which you
not highly nitrogenous leaves which you
not highly nitrogenous leaves which you can use as organic fertiliser so the
can use as organic fertiliser so the
can use as organic fertiliser so the core of it is how do we take this branch
core of it is how do we take this branch
core of it is how do we take this branch right and make it into a biomass
right and make it into a biomass
right and make it into a biomass material that we can supply for energy
material that we can supply for energy
material that we can supply for energy the the part where it gets fascinating
the the part where it gets fascinating
the the part where it gets fascinating for her is that she decided well it’s
for her is that she decided well it’s
for her is that she decided well it’s not about telling people I’m going to
not about telling people I’m going to
not about telling people I’m going to buy something from you I’m not going to
buy something from you I’m not going to
buy something from you I’m not going to go there and tell you buy the plant this
go there and tell you buy the plant this
go there and tell you buy the plant this therefore I grow this what she actually
therefore I grow this what she actually
therefore I grow this what she actually did was she went there and she went to
did was she went there and she went to
did was she went there and she went to schools and she taught kids about what
schools and she taught kids about what
schools and she taught kids about what it means to be a organic farmer why
it means to be a organic farmer why
it means to be a organic farmer why actually using a
actually using a
actually using a yeah in organic fertilizers our bad
yeah in organic fertilizers our bad
yeah in organic fertilizers our bad thing and the reason for it is it was
thing and the reason for it is it was
thing and the reason for it is it was good for them if you grew this tree it
good for them if you grew this tree it
good for them if you grew this tree it is good for you and that’s the most
is good for you and that’s the most
is good for you and that’s the most important part about it she decided that
important part about it she decided that
important part about it she decided that if you knew why you were growing this
if you knew why you were growing this
if you knew why you were growing this tree it’s specifically for you that
tree it’s specifically for you that
tree it’s specifically for you that wouldn’t matter to to a business because
wouldn’t matter to to a business because
wouldn’t matter to to a business because we go to you and ask you grow this tree
we go to you and ask you grow this tree
we go to you and ask you grow this tree take off you can use this as the life
take off you can use this as the life
take off you can use this as the life fence it keeps out you know the
fence it keeps out you know the
fence it keeps out you know the elephants from trampling into your
elephants from trampling into your
elephants from trampling into your garden the other bit is grow another
garden the other bit is grow another
garden the other bit is grow another layer of this and you can use it for
layer of this and you can use it for
layer of this and you can use it for firewood and the same time the leaves
firewood and the same time the leaves
firewood and the same time the leaves are you know for your organic fertilizer
are you know for your organic fertilizer
are you know for your organic fertilizer the great thing about that is then we
the great thing about that is then we
the great thing about that is then we tell them and we don’t tell them at any
tell them and we don’t tell them at any
tell them and we don’t tell them at any point in time we’re going to actually
point in time we’re going to actually
point in time we’re going to actually buy this from you why because it’s such
buy this from you why because it’s such
buy this from you why because it’s such a it’s such a low cost product if this
a it’s such a low cost product if this
a it’s such a low cost product if this farmer decided to grow only this one
farmer decided to grow only this one
farmer decided to grow only this one product so this one tree they will be in
product so this one tree they will be in
product so this one tree they will be in the long run killed by it you know they
the long run killed by it you know they
the long run killed by it you know they will actually be earning less in the
will actually be earning less in the
will actually be earning less in the long run than actually being uplifted in
long run than actually being uplifted in
long run than actually being uplifted in their lifestyle so what happens is when
their lifestyle so what happens is when
their lifestyle so what happens is when they come into the program you actually
they come into the program you actually
they come into the program you actually have to have at least two or three
have to have at least two or three
have to have at least two or three different crops to be part of the
different crops to be part of the
different crops to be part of the program why because it’s better for the
program why because it’s better for the
program why because it’s better for the soil and it’s also better for the
soil and it’s also better for the
soil and it’s also better for the environment because you know you are
environment because you know you are
environment because you know you are using organic fertilizer at the same
using organic fertilizer at the same
using organic fertilizer at the same time so for her one of the biggest
time so for her one of the biggest
time so for her one of the biggest takeaways was also the fact that when
takeaways was also the fact that when
takeaways was also the fact that when she first decided that she had to buy
she first decided that she had to buy
she first decided that she had to buy these these these sticks so everybody
these these these sticks so everybody
these these these sticks so everybody told her you can’t do it because you
told her you can’t do it because you
told her you can’t do it because you know you need to actually give them cash
know you need to actually give them cash
know you need to actually give them cash immediately at the door and we said no
immediately at the door and we said no
immediately at the door and we said no no we want to bank these people because
no we want to bank these people because
no we want to bank these people because they’ve never been on in a bank and how
they’ve never been on in a bank and how
they’ve never been on in a bank and how do we do that right and so when we went
do we do that right and so when we went
do we do that right and so when we went to them it was about creating the trust
to them it was about creating the trust
to them it was about creating the trust and telling people that you know trust
and telling people that you know trust
and telling people that you know trust us work with us and we’ll want to help
us work with us and we’ll want to help
us work with us and we’ll want to help you at the same time because when you
you at the same time because when you
you at the same time because when you are on this program the first and
are on this program the first and
are on this program the first and foremost of getting the actual revenue
foremost of getting the actual revenue
foremost of getting the actual revenue is not just to help your family we’re
is not just to help your family we’re
is not just to help your family we’re going to bring in channel more revenue
going to bring in channel more revenue
going to bring in channel more revenue to helping educate your kids so my last
to helping educate your kids so my last
to helping educate your kids so my last point to you before I leave is this
point to you before I leave is this
point to you before I leave is this all this happening out there the new
all this happening out there the new
all this happening out there the new ways of doing good social
ways of doing good social
ways of doing good social entrepreneurship and there are also
entrepreneurship and there are also
entrepreneurship and there are also things of people trying to do good but
things of people trying to do good but
things of people trying to do good but not ending up doing so it’s not an easy
not ending up doing so it’s not an easy
not ending up doing so it’s not an easy ride but it takes time and it takes time
ride but it takes time and it takes time
ride but it takes time and it takes time to prove your concept of what you’re
to prove your concept of what you’re
to prove your concept of what you’re trying to do
trying to do
trying to do lucky took almost six years to figure
lucky took almost six years to figure
lucky took almost six years to figure out this before she actually had a
out this before she actually had a
out this before she actually had a working model for and invested to come
working model for and invested to come
working model for and invested to come and what is great about her experience
and what is great about her experience
and what is great about her experience is that because of all these roadblocks
is that because of all these roadblocks
is that because of all these roadblocks that she’s gone through she’s actually
that she’s gone through she’s actually
that she’s gone through she’s actually made a much better organization from
made a much better organization from
made a much better organization from those brick walls she sees a challenge
those brick walls she sees a challenge
those brick walls she sees a challenge and then she goes and develops another
and then she goes and develops another
and then she goes and develops another way around it and it can be even better
way around it and it can be even better
way around it and it can be even better so for the budding on social
so for the budding on social
so for the budding on social entrepreneurs I hope this is something
entrepreneurs I hope this is something
entrepreneurs I hope this is something you can take back with you right
you can take back with you right
you can take back with you right sometimes just because we think we’re
sometimes just because we think we’re
sometimes just because we think we’re doing good doesn’t mean we’re doing it
doing good doesn’t mean we’re doing it
doing good doesn’t mean we’re doing it and that money stupid because what’s
and that money stupid because what’s
and that money stupid because what’s more important is what you’re thinking
more important is what you’re thinking
more important is what you’re thinking is the solution that’s just as impactful
is the solution that’s just as impactful
is the solution that’s just as impactful if not more most importantly be
if not more most importantly be
if not more most importantly be transformational don’t just stop at
transformational don’t just stop at
transformational don’t just stop at saying we’re going to do we’re going to
saying we’re going to do we’re going to
saying we’re going to do we’re going to make a difference go out there and
make a difference go out there and
make a difference go out there and change someone’s life that’s what we
change someone’s life that’s what we
change someone’s life that’s what we want you to do and most importantly it
want you to do and most importantly it
want you to do and most importantly it takes a while and lots of people are not
takes a while and lots of people are not
takes a while and lots of people are not going to believe you along the way
going to believe you along the way
going to believe you along the way but I hope you take this um every brick
but I hope you take this um every brick
but I hope you take this um every brick wall in your stride and make sure that
wall in your stride and make sure that
wall in your stride and make sure that you know it brings out something better
you know it brings out something better
you know it brings out something better than you initially thought so with that
than you initially thought so with that
than you initially thought so with that thank you so much
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