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all really fantastic female civil

all really fantastic female civil servants so a little bit about me first

servants so a little bit about me first

servants so a little bit about me first I am the permanent so actually the plant

I am the permanent so actually the plant

I am the permanent so actually the plant for international trade di T was set up

for international trade di T was set up

for international trade di T was set up shortly after the vote to leave the

shortly after the vote to leave the

shortly after the vote to leave the European Union we do three things we

European Union we do three things we

European Union we do three things we finance and promote international trade

finance and promote international trade

finance and promote international trade around the world we negotiate free trade

around the world we negotiate free trade

around the world we negotiate free trade deals and market access deals and we

deals and market access deals and we

deals and market access deals and we champion free trade but I’m not here to

champion free trade but I’m not here to

champion free trade but I’m not here to talk about that today my little bit

talk about that today my little bit

talk about that today my little bit about my background I began my career in

about my background I began my career in

about my background I began my career in the civil service in 2000 after a stint

the civil service in 2000 after a stint

the civil service in 2000 after a stint in the private sector I started as an

in the private sector I started as an

in the private sector I started as an economist on a one-year temporary

economist on a one-year temporary

economist on a one-year temporary contract and I never left so I always

contract and I never left so I always

contract and I never left so I always say to people beware before you start

say to people beware before you start

say to people beware before you start working in the civil service because the

working in the civil service because the

working in the civil service because the interest and the complexity of the jobs

interest and the complexity of the jobs

interest and the complexity of the jobs that we do mean you will never leave

that we do mean you will never leave

that we do mean you will never leave once you’ve had the chance to work on

once you’ve had the chance to work on

once you’ve had the chance to work on those I think we’re very lucky and

those I think we’re very lucky and

those I think we’re very lucky and privileged to do what we do I spent most

privileged to do what we do I spent most

privileged to do what we do I spent most of my career in the ministry of justice

of my career in the ministry of justice

of my career in the ministry of justice and its predecessor departments with a

and its predecessor departments with a

and its predecessor departments with a couple of stints in the Cabinet Office

couple of stints in the Cabinet Office

couple of stints in the Cabinet Office and a couple of stints in the Foreign

and a couple of stints in the Foreign

and a couple of stints in the Foreign Office and now I’m building an

Office and now I’m building an

Office and now I’m building an international economic department 3,600

international economic department 3,600

international economic department 3,600 people around the world and I have three

people around the world and I have three

people around the world and I have three kids when I’m not doing that wasn’t

kids when I’m not doing that wasn’t

kids when I’m not doing that wasn’t showing off by the way that was just the

showing off by the way that was just the

showing off by the way that was just the nature saying I totally hear and all

nature saying I totally hear and all

nature saying I totally hear and all other points that have been made earlier

other points that have been made earlier

other points that have been made earlier today I want to talk to you about

today I want to talk to you about

today I want to talk to you about ambitious leadership and I want to talk

ambitious leadership and I want to talk

ambitious leadership and I want to talk to you about your ambitious leadership

to you about your ambitious leadership

to you about your ambitious leadership and before I do I just want to say that

and before I do I just want to say that

and before I do I just want to say that leaders are not the same thing as bosses

leaders are not the same thing as bosses

leaders are not the same thing as bosses so the best leader you know will may not

so the best leader you know will may not

so the best leader you know will may not be a boss probably isn’t your boss they

be a boss probably isn’t your boss they

be a boss probably isn’t your boss they may not be someone at the top of your

may not be someone at the top of your

may not be someone at the top of your organization they might be someone who

organization they might be someone who

organization they might be someone who works for you they might be someone who

works for you they might be someone who

works for you they might be someone who works alongside you but the one thing

works alongside you but the one thing

works alongside you but the one thing that great leaders all do is they take

that great leaders all do is they take

that great leaders all do is they take organizations and people to places that

organizations and people to places that

organizations and people to places that they wouldn’t have got to otherwise and

they wouldn’t have got to otherwise and

they wouldn’t have got to otherwise and that’s how you can spot them so the best

that’s how you can spot them so the best

that’s how you can spot them so the best leader that I work with was a peer of

leader that I work with was a peer of

leader that I work with was a peer of mine at the Ministry of Justice we were

mine at the Ministry of Justice we were

mine at the Ministry of Justice we were implementing together a really big major

implementing together a really big major

implementing together a really big major program lots of

program lots of

program lots of scrutiny lots of media interest and I

scrutiny lots of media interest and I

scrutiny lots of media interest and I was reliant on him to bring his

was reliant on him to bring his

was reliant on him to bring his organization with him and so sometimes

organization with him and so sometimes

organization with him and so sometimes you will look around you and you will

you will look around you and you will

you will look around you and you will see the people you will spot great

see the people you will spot great

see the people you will spot great leaders and you should watch them

leaders and you should watch them

leaders and you should watch them because great leaders are worth their

because great leaders are worth their

because great leaders are worth their weight in gold so I’m gonna talk about a

weight in gold so I’m gonna talk about a

weight in gold so I’m gonna talk about a concept that has been very important for

concept that has been very important for

concept that has been very important for me in my leadership and in what I would

me in my leadership and in what I would

me in my leadership and in what I would describe as achieving more ambitious

describe as achieving more ambitious

describe as achieving more ambitious leadership so does anyone in this room

leadership so does anyone in this room

leadership so does anyone in this room like jazz it’s not compulsory right okay

like jazz it’s not compulsory right okay

like jazz it’s not compulsory right okay it’s not compulsory to like jazz but it

it’s not compulsory to like jazz but it

it’s not compulsory to like jazz but it helps you might have heard of a

helps you might have heard of a

helps you might have heard of a saxophonist called Wayne Shorter one of

saxophonist called Wayne Shorter one of

saxophonist called Wayne Shorter one of the jazz Giants played with Miles Davis

the jazz Giants played with Miles Davis

the jazz Giants played with Miles Davis complete jazz great when asked a few

complete jazz great when asked a few

complete jazz great when asked a few years ago

years ago

years ago what does jazz mean to you he said jazz

what does jazz mean to you he said jazz

what does jazz mean to you he said jazz means I dare you I dare you and when I

means I dare you I dare you and when I

means I dare you I dare you and when I heard this this had this incredible

heard this this had this incredible

heard this this had this incredible impact on me because the idea of using

impact on me because the idea of using

impact on me because the idea of using this concept I dare you it was more than

this concept I dare you it was more than

this concept I dare you it was more than just saying it was daring it provided a

just saying it was daring it provided a

just saying it was daring it provided a connection it built that bridge

connection it built that bridge

connection it built that bridge I dare you and it did something

I dare you and it did something

I dare you and it did something expanding it said that music jazz could

expanding it said that music jazz could

expanding it said that music jazz could be more there was more to it if you go

be more there was more to it if you go

be more there was more to it if you go further and I think that that is a

further and I think that that is a

further and I think that that is a brilliant concept to apply to leadership

brilliant concept to apply to leadership

brilliant concept to apply to leadership the concept of I dare you

the concept of I dare you

the concept of I dare you so what do I mean by that I talk a lot

so what do I mean by that I talk a lot

so what do I mean by that I talk a lot in the department of international trade

in the department of international trade

in the department of international trade about how I want us to be a bold

about how I want us to be a bold

about how I want us to be a bold Department an ambitious Department I

Department an ambitious Department I

Department an ambitious Department I wanted to be ambitious about what we can

wanted to be ambitious about what we can

wanted to be ambitious about what we can achieve and I don’t mean being reckless

achieve and I don’t mean being reckless

achieve and I don’t mean being reckless I don’t mean daring in terms of taking

I don’t mean daring in terms of taking

I don’t mean daring in terms of taking risks in appropriate risks when you work

risks in appropriate risks when you work

risks in appropriate risks when you work with taxpayers money

with taxpayers money

with taxpayers money you can’t ever be reckless you’ve got to

you can’t ever be reckless you’ve got to

you can’t ever be reckless you’ve got to spend that money wisely you’ve got to

spend that money wisely you’ve got to

spend that money wisely you’ve got to spend it on the right things you gotta

spend it on the right things you gotta

spend it on the right things you gotta spend it efficiently but I do mean

spend it efficiently but I do mean

spend it efficiently but I do mean unashamedly being bold I want us to be

unashamedly being bold I want us to be

unashamedly being bold I want us to be bold we have something called the di T

bold we have something called the di T

bold we have something called the di T spirit one aspect of that is being

spirit one aspect of that is being

spirit one aspect of that is being enterprising it means being innovative

enterprising it means being innovative

enterprising it means being innovative it means being confident and yes it

it means being confident and yes it

it means being confident and yes it means being daring and I want to build

means being daring and I want to build

means being daring and I want to build and create an environment where people

and create an environment where people

and create an environment where people feel that they can be daring and they

feel that they can be daring and they

feel that they can be daring and they will be rewarded for big thinking and

will be rewarded for big thinking and

will be rewarded for big thinking and for self motivation

for self motivation

for self motivation so given this one of the most important

so given this one of the most important

so given this one of the most important principles in leadership is people will

principles in leadership is people will

principles in leadership is people will do extraordinary things when put to the

do extraordinary things when put to the

do extraordinary things when put to the test so what you’ve got to do as a

test so what you’ve got to do as a

test so what you’ve got to do as a leader is you build a supportive

leader is you build a supportive

leader is you build a supportive environment you build a protective

environment you build a protective

environment you build a protective environment and then you say I dare you

environment and then you say I dare you

environment and then you say I dare you I dare you to be great I dare us to do

I dare you to be great I dare us to do

I dare you to be great I dare us to do something really extraordinary I dare us

something really extraordinary I dare us

something really extraordinary I dare us to take this organization to somewhere

to take this organization to somewhere

to take this organization to somewhere it wouldn’t otherwise have got to and

it wouldn’t otherwise have got to and

it wouldn’t otherwise have got to and finally I think that I dare you can

finally I think that I dare you can

finally I think that I dare you can apply brilliantly to your own mindset so

apply brilliantly to your own mindset so

apply brilliantly to your own mindset so how many times have you been in those

how many times have you been in those

how many times have you been in those moments of self-doubt you know you’re

moments of self-doubt you know you’re

moments of self-doubt you know you’re kind of in the meeting there’s 20 people

kind of in the meeting there’s 20 people

kind of in the meeting there’s 20 people in the room two people seem to be

in the room two people seem to be

in the room two people seem to be hugging the conversation let’s face it

hugging the conversation let’s face it

hugging the conversation let’s face it not usually the women and or you’ve got

not usually the women and or you’ve got

not usually the women and or you’ve got to speak in front of you know a thousand

to speak in front of you know a thousand

to speak in front of you know a thousand people and you’re nervous that mindset

people and you’re nervous that mindset

people and you’re nervous that mindset mindset really matters you know manage

mindset really matters you know manage

mindset really matters you know manage yourself first really important rule of

yourself first really important rule of

yourself first really important rule of leadership mindset matters I dare you I

leadership mindset matters I dare you I

leadership mindset matters I dare you I really encourage you to apply that

really encourage you to apply that

really encourage you to apply that concept that idea of I dare you to your

concept that idea of I dare you to your

concept that idea of I dare you to your own leadership and so next time you’re

own leadership and so next time you’re

own leadership and so next time you’re in a sticky or tricky situation so I

in a sticky or tricky situation so I

in a sticky or tricky situation so I mentioned you know people people do can

mentioned you know people people do can

mentioned you know people people do can do extraordinary things and put to the

do extraordinary things and put to the

do extraordinary things and put to the test

test

test obviously you can’t apply I dare you as

obviously you can’t apply I dare you as

obviously you can’t apply I dare you as a concept to everything you do it would

a concept to everything you do it would

a concept to everything you do it would be completely exhausting I mean as

be completely exhausting I mean as

be completely exhausting I mean as already mentioned we’ve all got enough

already mentioned we’ve all got enough

already mentioned we’ve all got enough on to also be doing I dare you on every

on to also be doing I dare you on every

on to also be doing I dare you on every aspect of life so I want to talk about

aspect of life so I want to talk about

aspect of life so I want to talk about something that a mentor of mine once

something that a mentor of mine once

something that a mentor of mine once said some of you might know him

said some of you might know him

said some of you might know him Nick McPherson former moments actually

Nick McPherson former moments actually

Nick McPherson former moments actually the Treasury meant to me for a few years

the Treasury meant to me for a few years

the Treasury meant to me for a few years and by the way mentoring is the topic of

and by the way mentoring is the topic of

and by the way mentoring is the topic of a whole other TED talk but you must get

a whole other TED talk but you must get

a whole other TED talk but you must get a mentor if you don’t have one already

a mentor if you don’t have one already

a mentor if you don’t have one already single most important thing apart from

single most important thing apart from

single most important thing apart from coming to TEDx women that you will do it

coming to TEDx women that you will do it

coming to TEDx women that you will do it to help yourself as get yourself a great

to help yourself as get yourself a great

to help yourself as get yourself a great mentor so Nick said to me a few things

mentor so Nick said to me a few things

mentor so Nick said to me a few things really matter

really matter

really matter good people know what does and I think

good people know what does and I think

good people know what does and I think this is brilliant on two levels

this is brilliant on two levels

this is brilliant on two levels first it’s about Toyota’s ation so if

first it’s about Toyota’s ation so if

first it’s about Toyota’s ation so if you’re going to be daring if you’re

you’re going to be daring if you’re

you’re going to be daring if you’re going to be the leader that takes the

going to be the leader that takes the

going to be the leader that takes the organization to somewhere it wouldn’t

organization to somewhere it wouldn’t

organization to somewhere it wouldn’t otherwise have got to you’ve got to know

otherwise have got to you’ve got to know

otherwise have got to you’ve got to know what matters and that means you need

what matters and that means you need

what matters and that means you need complete strategic clarity I like to

complete strategic clarity I like to

complete strategic clarity I like to take a step back very regularly and say

take a step back very regularly and say

take a step back very regularly and say what are we actually doing what are we

what are we actually doing what are we

what are we actually doing what are we actually doing it’s kind of like a basic

actually doing it’s kind of like a basic

actually doing it’s kind of like a basic concept I did one job where I’ve said it

concept I did one job where I’ve said it

concept I did one job where I’ve said it so much that when I left the team gave

so much that when I left the team gave

so much that when I left the team gave it to me on a monk what are we actually

it to me on a monk what are we actually

it to me on a monk what are we actually doing but it’s really important if

doing but it’s really important if

doing but it’s really important if you’re gonna build a bridge and take an

you’re gonna build a bridge and take an

you’re gonna build a bridge and take an organization to get there where are you

organization to get there where are you

organization to get there where are you going what are you doing and then you

going what are you doing and then you

going what are you doing and then you can apply the IED a new concept to those

can apply the IED a new concept to those

can apply the IED a new concept to those really really important things so good

really really important things so good

really really important things so good people take people with them and good

people take people with them and good

people take people with them and good people work out how to get there what

people work out how to get there what

people work out how to get there what are the really important things that

are the really important things that

are the really important things that only you can do in your leadership to

only you can do in your leadership to

only you can do in your leadership to get you there and then you really great

get you there and then you really great

get you there and then you really great people apply the idea concept to those

people apply the idea concept to those

people apply the idea concept to those things so I mentioned people people are

things so I mentioned people people are

things so I mentioned people people are the most important asset your team

the most important asset your team

the most important asset your team nobody can do anything on their own I

nobody can do anything on their own I

nobody can do anything on their own I mean literally you can’t do anything you

mean literally you can’t do anything you

mean literally you can’t do anything you can barely achieve you know it’s quite a

can barely achieve you know it’s quite a

can barely achieve you know it’s quite a lot of making it’s work if you’ve got

lot of making it’s work if you’ve got

lot of making it’s work if you’ve got three children and everything else

three children and everything else

three children and everything else that’s going on you’ve made it into work

that’s going on you’ve made it into work

that’s going on you’ve made it into work everything you do is about your team the

everything you do is about your team the

everything you do is about your team the single most important thing that you do

single most important thing that you do

single most important thing that you do every day is interact with your team and

every day is interact with your team and

every day is interact with your team and the people around you I don’t just mean

the people around you I don’t just mean

the people around you I don’t just mean the people that work for you the team

the people that work for you the team

the people that work for you the team the team they’re delivering things and

the team they’re delivering things and

the team they’re delivering things and that’s because they’re the people that

that’s because they’re the people that

that’s because they’re the people that are going to help you achieve the

are going to help you achieve the

are going to help you achieve the mission so it might feel like getting in

mission so it might feel like getting in

mission so it might feel like getting in the lift you’ve got several emails that

the lift you’ve got several emails that

the lift you’ve got several emails that have just come in and you’re totally

have just come in and you’re totally

have just come in and you’re totally focused on what’s happening in your

focused on what’s happening in your

focused on what’s happening in your iPhone no put it away

iPhone no put it away

iPhone no put it away it’s that one-to-one interaction that’s

it’s that one-to-one interaction that’s

it’s that one-to-one interaction that’s going to make the difference the most

going to make the difference the most

going to make the difference the most important thing you do is that

important thing you do is that

important thing you do is that interaction and you’ve got to remember

interaction and you’ve got to remember

interaction and you’ve got to remember as a leader leading by example can’t be

as a leader leading by example can’t be

as a leader leading by example can’t be delegated right leading by example that

delegated right leading by example that

delegated right leading by example that is you you’re doing it you’re never off

is you you’re doing it you’re never off

is you you’re doing it you’re never off by the way it works when you are at work

by the way it works when you are at work

by the way it works when you are at work in most people in that space you are in

in most people in that space you are in

in most people in that space you are in a cut you’re like a plot device right

a cut you’re like a plot device right

a cut you’re like a plot device right you’re a plot device called boss and you

you’re a plot device called boss and you

you’re a plot device called boss and you are never off the light and the shadow

are never off the light and the shadow

are never off the light and the shadow that you cast these are crucial things

that you cast these are crucial things

that you cast these are crucial things there

there

there affecting people’s days if you look up

affecting people’s days if you look up

affecting people’s days if you look up beat and positive and confident people

beat and positive and confident people

beat and positive and confident people feel good about their day if you look

feel good about their day if you look

feel good about their day if you look stressed and harassed and oh my god

stressed and harassed and oh my god

stressed and harassed and oh my god people don’t feel so good you’ve got to

people don’t feel so good you’ve got to

people don’t feel so good you’ve got to remember you are never off that light is

remember you are never off that light is

remember you are never off that light is really really crucial but like you are

really really crucial but like you are

really really crucial but like you are shedding really important and people

shedding really important and people

shedding really important and people want you by the way to be courageous if

want you by the way to be courageous if

want you by the way to be courageous if you want to engender in your team a

you want to engender in your team a

you want to engender in your team a sense of I dare you a sense of I’m going

sense of I dare you a sense of I’m going

sense of I dare you a sense of I’m going to dare you to be great you’ve got to

to dare you to be great you’ve got to

to dare you to be great you’ve got to look like you’re prepared to step up but

look like you’re prepared to step up but

look like you’re prepared to step up but you’re going to be courageous that you

you’re going to be courageous that you

you’re going to be courageous that you will step up you will dare them to be

will step up you will dare them to be

will step up you will dare them to be great and you will support them and

great and you will support them and

great and you will support them and build around them a protective

build around them a protective

build around them a protective environment in which they can do so so

environment in which they can do so so

environment in which they can do so so that’s it in conclusion just to say this

that’s it in conclusion just to say this

that’s it in conclusion just to say this is these have been really important

is these have been really important

is these have been really important words for me I dare you and it’s really

words for me I dare you and it’s really

words for me I dare you and it’s really helped me work out what how ambitious I

helped me work out what how ambitious I

helped me work out what how ambitious I want my leadership to be which is very

want my leadership to be which is very

want my leadership to be which is very how ambitious I want the department to

how ambitious I want the department to

how ambitious I want the department to be but also how to get there how to take

be but also how to get there how to take

be but also how to get there how to take people with me what really matters so I

people with me what really matters so I

people with me what really matters so I really encourage you apply them in your

really encourage you apply them in your

really encourage you apply them in your own life or else five three other words

own life or else five three other words

own life or else five three other words if these don’t speak to you but find

if these don’t speak to you but find

if these don’t speak to you but find something find something that speaks to

something find something that speaks to

something find something that speaks to you that will help you manage your own

you that will help you manage your own

you that will help you manage your own mindset will help you manage your team

mindset will help you manage your team

mindset will help you manage your team and will help you take your organization

and will help you take your organization

and will help you take your organization to somewhere you wouldn’t otherwise have

to somewhere you wouldn’t otherwise have

to somewhere you wouldn’t otherwise have got to thank you very much

got to thank you very much

got to thank you very much [Applause]

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