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Teaching in the Dark | Ian Cohen | TEDxEmory


so first off thank you so much for

so first off thank you so much for having me this is an incredible

having me this is an incredible

having me this is an incredible opportunity and thanks again to all the

opportunity and thanks again to all the

opportunity and thanks again to all the students who put this so education you

students who put this so education you

students who put this so education you know if all of the issues you’re gonna

know if all of the issues you’re gonna

know if all of the issues you’re gonna hear about today I would argue that

hear about today I would argue that

hear about today I would argue that education is the worst and not the worst

education is the worst and not the worst

education is the worst and not the worst that like physically harms us the most

that like physically harms us the most

that like physically harms us the most it’s just the worst you know we’ve all

it’s just the worst you know we’ve all

it’s just the worst you know we’ve all we all grew up went through the same

we all grew up went through the same

we all grew up went through the same education system and it makes us feel

education system and it makes us feel

education system and it makes us feel tired it makes us feel despair it makes

tired it makes us feel despair it makes

tired it makes us feel despair it makes us feel frustrated you know even Brock

us feel frustrated you know even Brock

us feel frustrated you know even Brock Obama can’t get through a class without

Obama can’t get through a class without

Obama can’t get through a class without you know ball and svet head back and

you know ball and svet head back and

you know ball and svet head back and saying is this really the best way and

saying is this really the best way and

saying is this really the best way and every month it’s like we hear another

every month it’s like we hear another

every month it’s like we hear another study came out Oh a new international

study came out Oh a new international

study came out Oh a new international test in America’s last or America fell

test in America’s last or America fell

test in America’s last or America fell you know American students they’re

you know American students they’re

you know American students they’re really confident but you know not that

really confident but you know not that

really confident but you know not that bright and so education is this

bright and so education is this

bright and so education is this seemingly intractable issue but it’s

seemingly intractable issue but it’s

seemingly intractable issue but it’s unique in that we’ve all experienced it

unique in that we’ve all experienced it

unique in that we’ve all experienced it and so what’s strange is why is this why

and so what’s strange is why is this why

and so what’s strange is why is this why is the system so terrible because when

is the system so terrible because when

is the system so terrible because when you think about the idea of learning

you think about the idea of learning

you think about the idea of learning which is this act that the education

which is this act that the education

which is this act that the education system is meant to facilitate that

system is meant to facilitate that

system is meant to facilitate that actually produces completely different

actually produces completely different

actually produces completely different feelings in our mind yeah I bet even

feelings in our mind yeah I bet even

feelings in our mind yeah I bet even hearing that word is this idea of

hearing that word is this idea of

hearing that word is this idea of unleashing our minds becoming better

unleashing our minds becoming better

unleashing our minds becoming better versions of ourselves exploring our

versions of ourselves exploring our

versions of ourselves exploring our curiosity you’re feeling motivated

curiosity you’re feeling motivated

curiosity you’re feeling motivated feeling empowered even today in today’s

feeling empowered even today in today’s

feeling empowered even today in today’s world with digital connectivity I would

world with digital connectivity I would

world with digital connectivity I would argue learning something new and the

argue learning something new and the

argue learning something new and the idea of that even is you know dare I say

idea of that even is you know dare I say

idea of that even is you know dare I say cool and this is me if you’re curious

cool and this is me if you’re curious

cool and this is me if you’re curious ninth grade

ninth grade

ninth grade and yes that is a real go T it took me

and yes that is a real go T it took me

and yes that is a real go T it took me about 18 months to grow this this was

about 18 months to grow this this was

about 18 months to grow this this was the only time in my life where I was

the only time in my life where I was

the only time in my life where I was cool it’s my license to cool phase but

cool it’s my license to cool phase but

cool it’s my license to cool phase but you know going through college that’s

you know going through college that’s

you know going through college that’s when my intellectual curiosity really

when my intellectual curiosity really

when my intellectual curiosity really took off and like many of us I feel like

took off and like many of us I feel like

took off and like many of us I feel like we shared that experience and so I

we shared that experience and so I

we shared that experience and so I started asked myself why is this why is

started asked myself why is this why is

started asked myself why is this why is the education experience and system so

the education experience and system so

the education experience and system so intractable and so boring and at the end

intractable and so boring and at the end

intractable and so boring and at the end of my emery experience I graduated back

of my emery experience I graduated back

of my emery experience I graduated back in 2012 I was a philosophy major so my

in 2012 I was a philosophy major so my

in 2012 I was a philosophy major so my career path wasn’t exactly carved out

career path wasn’t exactly carved out

career path wasn’t exactly carved out and Teach for America actually provided

and Teach for America actually provided

and Teach for America actually provided me with the opportunity to jump into the

me with the opportunity to jump into the

me with the opportunity to jump into the classroom and find out what exactly was

classroom and find out what exactly was

classroom and find out what exactly was up in in education so I became a high

up in in education so I became a high

up in in education so I became a high school teacher I taught ninth and tenth

school teacher I taught ninth and tenth

school teacher I taught ninth and tenth grade social studies here in

grade social studies here in

grade social studies here in Lana and it was almost a cliche where I

Lana and it was almost a cliche where I

Lana and it was almost a cliche where I taught at this point I taught at

taught at this point I taught at

taught at this point I taught at Banneker high school so it’s a great

Banneker high school so it’s a great

Banneker high school so it’s a great school here in Atlanta but at the time

school here in Atlanta but at the time

school here in Atlanta but at the time it was struggling 42 percent graduation

it was struggling 42 percent graduation

it was struggling 42 percent graduation rate you know 97 percent of the students

rate you know 97 percent of the students

rate you know 97 percent of the students qualify for free and reduced lunch which

qualify for free and reduced lunch which

qualify for free and reduced lunch which means they’re at or below the poverty

means they’re at or below the poverty

means they’re at or below the poverty line and you know just historically in

line and you know just historically in

line and you know just historically in the last 10-15 years Banneker was not

the last 10-15 years Banneker was not

the last 10-15 years Banneker was not having a lot of success and in my first

having a lot of success and in my first

having a lot of success and in my first year I ran into a lot of the same

year I ran into a lot of the same

year I ran into a lot of the same problems you’d expect oh we need more

problems you’d expect oh we need more

problems you’d expect oh we need more teachers or the the standards are

teachers or the the standards are

teachers or the the standards are outdated the books are outdated now we

outdated the books are outdated now we

outdated the books are outdated now we just we just need more culture we need a

just we just need more culture we need a

just we just need more culture we need a better energy but none of those really

better energy but none of those really

better energy but none of those really felt like the fundamental issue because

felt like the fundamental issue because

felt like the fundamental issue because something wasn’t right something wasn’t

something wasn’t right something wasn’t

something wasn’t right something wasn’t hidden for me so my second year I

hidden for me so my second year I

hidden for me so my second year I actually figured out I think I had a

actually figured out I think I had a

actually figured out I think I had a moment and it’s when I met Natasha my

moment and it’s when I met Natasha my

moment and it’s when I met Natasha my second year I was teaching world history

second year I was teaching world history

second year I was teaching world history 10th grade class and in Georgia like in

10th grade class and in Georgia like in

10th grade class and in Georgia like in many states world history is actually a

many states world history is actually a

many states world history is actually a required course in order to graduate and

required course in order to graduate and

required course in order to graduate and so was second semester and every

so was second semester and every

so was second semester and every semester you get a you know new set of

semester you get a you know new set of

semester you get a you know new set of kids Natasha was in my fourth period

kids Natasha was in my fourth period

kids Natasha was in my fourth period class on my bday 38 kids in the

class on my bday 38 kids in the

class on my bday 38 kids in the classroom it was it was really a show I

classroom it was it was really a show I

classroom it was it was really a show I must say but Natasha was not like every

must say but Natasha was not like every

must say but Natasha was not like every other student in the class she wasn’t a

other student in the class she wasn’t a

other student in the class she wasn’t a tenth grader

tenth grader

tenth grader she was actually a twelfth grader she

she was actually a twelfth grader she

she was actually a twelfth grader she was 18 year old and she had failed world

was 18 year old and she had failed world

was 18 year old and she had failed world history the first time around and so it

history the first time around and so it

history the first time around and so it was spring time her last semester and

was spring time her last semester and

was spring time her last semester and she needed to pass my class in order to

she needed to pass my class in order to

she needed to pass my class in order to graduate so here she is start of the

graduate so here she is start of the

graduate so here she is start of the semester really motivated I’m motivated

semester really motivated I’m motivated

semester really motivated I’m motivated we start off well she’s doing okay but

we start off well she’s doing okay but

we start off well she’s doing okay but it was quickly became clear to me that

it was quickly became clear to me that

it was quickly became clear to me that Natasha like a lot of her peers and

Natasha like a lot of her peers and

Natasha like a lot of her peers and anybody who’s taught in underserved

anybody who’s taught in underserved

anybody who’s taught in underserved schools know this is actually a

schools know this is actually a

schools know this is actually a widespread issue that she was well

widespread issue that she was well

widespread issue that she was well behind academically you know her reading

behind academically you know her reading

behind academically you know her reading and writing were probably actually

and writing were probably actually

and writing were probably actually closer to her fifth or a sixth grade

closer to her fifth or a sixth grade

closer to her fifth or a sixth grade level her math is probably in that area

level her math is probably in that area

level her math is probably in that area as well and my course is a lot based on

as well and my course is a lot based on

as well and my course is a lot based on writing and reading and all that kind of

writing and reading and all that kind of

writing and reading and all that kind of stuff that she do in world history and

stuff that she do in world history and

stuff that she do in world history and so over the course of the semester

so over the course of the semester

so over the course of the semester Natasha’s Breanna struggle

Natasha’s Breanna struggle

Natasha’s Breanna struggle fast-forward we’re a week away from when

fast-forward we’re a week away from when

fast-forward we’re a week away from when I have to submit grades and I look up

I have to submit grades and I look up

I have to submit grades and I look up and at my grade book in the Tosh’s

and at my grade book in the Tosh’s

and at my grade book in the Tosh’s grades at a 55 now in Georgia or in

grades at a 55 now in Georgia or in

grades at a 55 now in Georgia or in Fulton County I should say you need a

Fulton County I should say you need a

Fulton County I should say you need a 70% in order to pass a class at that

70% in order to pass a class at that

70% in order to pass a class at that moment I knew there was no statistical

moment I knew there was no statistical

moment I knew there was no statistical way than Natasha could pass this class

way than Natasha could pass this class

way than Natasha could pass this class and I offered her tutorial I’d offer

and I offered her tutorial I’d offer

and I offered her tutorial I’d offer extra credit recovery packets extra

extra credit recovery packets extra

extra credit recovery packets extra tests these are all things that in

tests these are all things that in

tests these are all things that in underserved schools were oftentimes

underserved schools were oftentimes

underserved schools were oftentimes almost forced to do by our principals

almost forced to do by our principals

almost forced to do by our principals because our students are struggling

because our students are struggling

because our students are struggling being so behind and yet here Natasha is

being so behind and yet here Natasha is

being so behind and yet here Natasha is at 18 and she’s got a 55 so this is

at 18 and she’s got a 55 so this is

at 18 and she’s got a 55 so this is where I was put into a dilemma that also

where I was put into a dilemma that also

where I was put into a dilemma that also sparked some inspiration I was sitting

sparked some inspiration I was sitting

sparked some inspiration I was sitting there and I was deciding do I pass a

there and I was deciding do I pass a

there and I was deciding do I pass a Natasha or do I fail her now I bet

Natasha or do I fail her now I bet

Natasha or do I fail her now I bet everybody’s sitting here and your gut

everybody’s sitting here and your gut

everybody’s sitting here and your gut reaction was the same exact as mine

reaction was the same exact as mine

reaction was the same exact as mine Natasha earned a 55 it’s unfortunate

Natasha earned a 55 it’s unfortunate

Natasha earned a 55 it’s unfortunate she could have made better choices she

she could have made better choices she

she could have made better choices she could have taken advantage of extra

could have taken advantage of extra

could have taken advantage of extra credit of recovery of tutorial and so

credit of recovery of tutorial and so

credit of recovery of tutorial and so Natasha

Natasha

Natasha earned a 55 and I need to stand on the

earned a 55 and I need to stand on the

earned a 55 and I need to stand on the integrity of the class stand on the

integrity of the class stand on the

integrity of the class stand on the principle of the class and all the

principle of the class and all the

principle of the class and all the students who actually put in a lot of

students who actually put in a lot of

students who actually put in a lot of work and got passing grades and so

work and got passing grades and so

work and got passing grades and so Natasha should earn her failing grade I

Natasha should earn her failing grade I

Natasha should earn her failing grade I think viscerally that just feels like

think viscerally that just feels like

think viscerally that just feels like the right thing because she she’s you

the right thing because she she’s you

the right thing because she she’s you know facing the consequences of her

know facing the consequences of her

know facing the consequences of her actions however at this point in time I

actions however at this point in time I

actions however at this point in time I decided to take a step back and I said

decided to take a step back and I said

decided to take a step back and I said to myself okay well let’s look at the

to myself okay well let’s look at the

to myself okay well let’s look at the other side of the coin what happens if I

other side of the coin what happens if I

other side of the coin what happens if I fail natasha natashas 18 she comes from

fail natasha natashas 18 she comes from

fail natasha natashas 18 she comes from a school where a lot of kids drop out

a school where a lot of kids drop out

a school where a lot of kids drop out most don’t actually finish and so if I

most don’t actually finish and so if I

most don’t actually finish and so if I fail Natasha she’s not going to graduate

fail Natasha she’s not going to graduate

fail Natasha she’s not going to graduate yeah maybe she’ll come back in the

yeah maybe she’ll come back in the

yeah maybe she’ll come back in the summer or in the fall to get that one

summer or in the fall to get that one

summer or in the fall to get that one credit back up but the likelihood of

credit back up but the likelihood of

credit back up but the likelihood of that actually happening is really slim

that actually happening is really slim

that actually happening is really slim and so to me was is Natasha responsible

and so to me was is Natasha responsible

and so to me was is Natasha responsible completely let me definitely bear some

completely let me definitely bear some

completely let me definitely bear some responsibility but it all her fault

responsibility but it all her fault

responsibility but it all her fault but she ended up in world history again

but she ended up in world history again

but she ended up in world history again spring semester senior year and her life

spring semester senior year and her life

spring semester senior year and her life trajectory could be altered because of

trajectory could be altered because of

trajectory could be altered because of the fact that she couldn’t master my

the fact that she couldn’t master my

the fact that she couldn’t master my world history class where we’re talking

world history class where we’re talking

world history class where we’re talking about stuff that happened 5,000 years

about stuff that happened 5,000 years

about stuff that happened 5,000 years ago that honestly is not that relevant

ago that honestly is not that relevant

ago that honestly is not that relevant to her not that relevant to me but here

to her not that relevant to me but here

to her not that relevant to me but here we are and so if I fail her I’m gonna

we are and so if I fail her I’m gonna

we are and so if I fail her I’m gonna drastically alter her life prospects

drastically alter her life prospects

drastically alter her life prospects without a high school diploma in our

without a high school diploma in our

without a high school diploma in our country and in our world right now it’s

country and in our world right now it’s

country and in our world right now it’s really really challenging you really do

really really challenging you really do

really really challenging you really do not have a ton of options and so I asked

not have a ton of options and so I asked

not have a ton of options and so I asked what would you do you know do you pass

what would you do you know do you pass

what would you do you know do you pass her and you know you know honestly save

her and you know you know honestly save

her and you know you know honestly save her trajectory save her prospects

her trajectory save her prospects

her trajectory save her prospects or do you fail her and stand on

or do you fail her and stand on

or do you fail her and stand on principle because if you stand on

principle because if you stand on

principle because if you stand on principle you’re not actually gonna fix

principle you’re not actually gonna fix

principle you’re not actually gonna fix the system in that moment and that’s

the system in that moment and that’s

the system in that moment and that’s when it hit me why am I in this scenario

when it hit me why am I in this scenario

when it hit me why am I in this scenario why is a teacher am i sitting there

why is a teacher am i sitting there

why is a teacher am i sitting there having to face this ethical dilemma that

having to face this ethical dilemma that

having to face this ethical dilemma that you know in all truthfulness came up

you know in all truthfulness came up

you know in all truthfulness came up many times for me and many other

many times for me and many other

many times for me and many other teachers I knew that’s kind of beauty of

teachers I knew that’s kind of beauty of

teachers I knew that’s kind of beauty of teaching America’s you get to know a lot

teaching America’s you get to know a lot

teaching America’s you get to know a lot of teachers at different schools and we

of teachers at different schools and we

of teachers at different schools and we all face very similar problems and I was

all face very similar problems and I was

all face very similar problems and I was seeing myself why why is this happening

seeing myself why why is this happening

seeing myself why why is this happening I feel like I’m in the dark I feel like

I feel like I’m in the dark I feel like

I feel like I’m in the dark I feel like there’s no guiding principle I don’t

there’s no guiding principle I don’t

there’s no guiding principle I don’t know what the education system is meant

know what the education system is meant

know what the education system is meant to be doing and so I don’t know how to

to be doing and so I don’t know how to

to be doing and so I don’t know how to make this decision for Natasha and

make this decision for Natasha and

make this decision for Natasha and that’s where the question came to me

that’s where the question came to me

that’s where the question came to me what is the goal of Education after all

what is the goal of Education after all

what is the goal of Education after all can anybody agree upon it dude does

can anybody agree upon it dude does

can anybody agree upon it dude does anybody have an agreed-upon definition

anybody have an agreed-upon definition

anybody have an agreed-upon definition of education why we do it in the first

of education why we do it in the first

of education why we do it in the first place what’s the vision where are we

place what’s the vision where are we

place what’s the vision where are we going with this and now that I’ve worked

going with this and now that I’ve worked

going with this and now that I’ve worked in education and policy and the

in education and policy and the

in education and policy and the nonprofit sector and in the classroom I

nonprofit sector and in the classroom I

nonprofit sector and in the classroom I realized nobody really knows if you

realized nobody really knows if you

realized nobody really knows if you asked everybody in this room and

asked everybody in this room and

asked everybody in this room and everybody in education you would get

everybody in education you would get

everybody in education you would get tons of different answers some people

tons of different answers some people

tons of different answers some people today say the point of Education is to

today say the point of Education is to

today say the point of Education is to make everybody college and career-ready

make everybody college and career-ready

make everybody college and career-ready you know other people say it’s to

you know other people say it’s to

you know other people say it’s to develop a love of learning or a globally

develop a love of learning or a globally

develop a love of learning or a globally competitive workforce or to earn a

competitive workforce or to earn a

competitive workforce or to earn a college degree you go to college or to

college degree you go to college or to

college degree you go to college or to get a job even you know all these things

get a job even you know all these things

get a job even you know all these things depend on who you ask so if we think

depend on who you ask so if we think

depend on who you ask so if we think about Natasha you know in that scenario

about Natasha you know in that scenario

about Natasha you know in that scenario if it’s college and career-ready well

if it’s college and career-ready well

if it’s college and career-ready well what does that mean I mean she’s

what does that mean I mean she’s

what does that mean I mean she’s definitely not college ready from a

definitely not college ready from a

definitely not college ready from a skill standpoint she could be career

skill standpoint she could be career

skill standpoint she could be career ready depending on what’s career talking

ready depending on what’s career talking

ready depending on what’s career talking about but we don’t really know because

about but we don’t really know because

about but we don’t really know because no one’s told us no one’s decided no

no one’s told us no one’s decided no

no one’s told us no one’s decided no one’s define what that means if it’s

one’s define what that means if it’s

one’s define what that means if it’s develop a love of learning how do you

develop a love of learning how do you

develop a love of learning how do you measure that how do you teach that you

measure that how do you teach that you

measure that how do you teach that you know globally competitive workforce that

know globally competitive workforce that

know globally competitive workforce that could be something completely different

could be something completely different

could be something completely different and so as teachers and as educators

and so as teachers and as educators

and so as teachers and as educators there is no North Star there is no

there is no North Star there is no

there is no North Star there is no guiding light there is no purpose

guiding light there is no purpose

guiding light there is no purpose there’s no clearly defined goal and

there’s no clearly defined goal and

there’s no clearly defined goal and that’s the problem so why is it so

that’s the problem so why is it so

that’s the problem so why is it so difficult why is this question and this

difficult why is this question and this

difficult why is this question and this system so intractable at this point I

system so intractable at this point I

system so intractable at this point I think it comes down to two things the

think it comes down to two things the

think it comes down to two things the first one’s fairly obvious the education

first one’s fairly obvious the education

first one’s fairly obvious the education system as we know it was started in the

system as we know it was started in the

system as we know it was started in the Industrial Revolution and it was not

Industrial Revolution and it was not

Industrial Revolution and it was not meant for what it is today

meant for what it is today

meant for what it is today it was originally meant for routine to

it was originally meant for routine to

it was originally meant for routine to teach people basic skills they can

teach people basic skills they can

teach people basic skills they can work in factories or in the

work in factories or in the

work in factories or in the administrative State and it’s just been

administrative State and it’s just been

administrative State and it’s just been growing and growing and growing for the

growing and growing and growing for the

growing and growing and growing for the last hundred years and we’ve just been

last hundred years and we’ve just been

last hundred years and we’ve just been trying to fix it and force everything

trying to fix it and force everything

trying to fix it and force everything that’s a new into it the second is

that’s a new into it the second is

that’s a new into it the second is actually a deeper question education is

actually a deeper question education is

actually a deeper question education is how we prepare ourselves it’s how we

how we prepare ourselves it’s how we

how we prepare ourselves it’s how we prepare our children and so another

prepare our children and so another

prepare our children and so another reason why it’s so challenging for us to

reason why it’s so challenging for us to

reason why it’s so challenging for us to agree on the goal is because deciding

agree on the goal is because deciding

agree on the goal is because deciding what education is about is actually

what education is about is actually

what education is about is actually deciding what our purpose of our lives

deciding what our purpose of our lives

deciding what our purpose of our lives should be you know the purpose of our

should be you know the purpose of our

should be you know the purpose of our lives is to be productive then yeah

lives is to be productive then yeah

lives is to be productive then yeah education should probably be about

education should probably be about

education should probably be about routine and rigidity and and you know

routine and rigidity and and you know

routine and rigidity and and you know just doing the same thing over and over

just doing the same thing over and over

just doing the same thing over and over and so you produce as much as you

and so you produce as much as you

and so you produce as much as you possibly can

possibly can

possibly can if it’s about personal exploration then

if it’s about personal exploration then

if it’s about personal exploration then it should be about discovery it should

it should be about discovery it should

it should be about discovery it should be about challenging ourselves you know

be about challenging ourselves you know

be about challenging ourselves you know exploring each other and collaborating

exploring each other and collaborating

exploring each other and collaborating and all of that if it’s about sitting in

and all of that if it’s about sitting in

and all of that if it’s about sitting in front of screens and phones and TVs all

front of screens and phones and TVs all

front of screens and phones and TVs all day then maybe it should just be that

day then maybe it should just be that

day then maybe it should just be that maybe we should start earlier as you can

maybe we should start earlier as you can

maybe we should start earlier as you can see some people think we’re headed in

see some people think we’re headed in

see some people think we’re headed in that direction already and since we have

that direction already and since we have

that direction already and since we have no agreed-upon goal we’ve ended up in a

no agreed-upon goal we’ve ended up in a

no agreed-upon goal we’ve ended up in a credential driven system so here’s a

credential driven system so here’s a

credential driven system so here’s a short graph from the Georgia Public

short graph from the Georgia Public

short graph from the Georgia Public Policy Institute it’s a research study

Policy Institute it’s a research study

Policy Institute it’s a research study done a few years ago that honestly tells

done a few years ago that honestly tells

done a few years ago that honestly tells us a lot that we already know by 2020 65

us a lot that we already know by 2020 65

us a lot that we already know by 2020 65 percent of all jobs will require a cop

percent of all jobs will require a cop

percent of all jobs will require a cop some college or more and then 88 percent

some college or more and then 88 percent

some college or more and then 88 percent of all jobs will require at least a high

of all jobs will require at least a high

of all jobs will require at least a high school diploma so if Natasha doesn’t

school diploma so if Natasha doesn’t

school diploma so if Natasha doesn’t gather diploma she’s pretty much out of

gather diploma she’s pretty much out of

gather diploma she’s pretty much out of luck I mean there’s very very few job

luck I mean there’s very very few job

luck I mean there’s very very few job prospects and honestly they’re probably

prospects and honestly they’re probably

prospects and honestly they’re probably jobs that aren’t going to lead to

jobs that aren’t going to lead to

jobs that aren’t going to lead to sustained abilities to stability to a

sustained abilities to stability to a

sustained abilities to stability to a feeling of prosperity and so we’re in

feeling of prosperity and so we’re in

feeling of prosperity and so we’re in this credential driven society where a

this credential driven society where a

this credential driven society where a lot of times it doesn’t even matter what

lot of times it doesn’t even matter what

lot of times it doesn’t even matter what you studied for any seniors in the room

you studied for any seniors in the room

you studied for any seniors in the room you probably look at the jobs right now

you probably look at the jobs right now

you probably look at the jobs right now and it just says bachelor’s degree

and it just says bachelor’s degree

and it just says bachelor’s degree required and maybe it lists 10 majors

required and maybe it lists 10 majors

required and maybe it lists 10 majors but they don’t really care what you

but they don’t really care what you

but they don’t really care what you studied they just care can you learn are

studied they just care can you learn are

studied they just care can you learn are you capable are you resourceful but we

you capable are you resourceful but we

you capable are you resourceful but we have what now has turned into a really

have what now has turned into a really

have what now has turned into a really elaborate filtering system you know if

elaborate filtering system you know if

elaborate filtering system you know if Natasha gets that high school diploma it

Natasha gets that high school diploma it

Natasha gets that high school diploma it does not reflect her skillset by any

does not reflect her skillset by any

does not reflect her skillset by any means as I told you she’s on a fifth or

means as I told you she’s on a fifth or

means as I told you she’s on a fifth or sixth grade reading and writing level

sixth grade reading and writing level

sixth grade reading and writing level but she’s got the piece of paper so does

but she’s got the piece of paper so does

but she’s got the piece of paper so does it really matter now I’d ask people to

it really matter now I’d ask people to

it really matter now I’d ask people to imagine if we’re in a credential driven

imagine if we’re in a credential driven

imagine if we’re in a credential driven system what does success look like what

system what does success look like what

system what does success look like what the ideal credential different system

the ideal credential different system

the ideal credential different system look like is it really everybody has a

look like is it really everybody has a

look like is it really everybody has a high school diploma and a bachelor’s

high school diploma and a bachelor’s

high school diploma and a bachelor’s degree I think it takes everybody in

degree I think it takes everybody in

degree I think it takes everybody in this room probably less than five

this room probably less than five

this room probably less than five seconds to realize that that reality

seconds to realize that that reality

seconds to realize that that reality would be horrific it wouldn’t work

would be horrific it wouldn’t work

would be horrific it wouldn’t work everybody would be overqualified for all

everybody would be overqualified for all

everybody would be overqualified for all the jobs that the majority of our

the jobs that the majority of our

the jobs that the majority of our economy is based off of and nobody would

economy is based off of and nobody would

economy is based off of and nobody would want to do them we’re honestly not far

want to do them we’re honestly not far

want to do them we’re honestly not far from that right now and so this can’t be

from that right now and so this can’t be

from that right now and so this can’t be the way this should be when people look

the way this should be when people look

the way this should be when people look at the education system from the highest

at the education system from the highest

at the education system from the highest level and that’s what we really need to

level and that’s what we really need to

level and that’s what we really need to start thinking about because we need to

start thinking about because we need to

start thinking about because we need to find solutions that scale

find solutions that scale

find solutions that scale a lot of people in the state and federal

a lot of people in the state and federal

a lot of people in the state and federal policy levels honestly they look at it

policy levels honestly they look at it

policy levels honestly they look at it like it’s a factory now when you hear

like it’s a factory now when you hear

like it’s a factory now when you hear that you probably think it’s very

that you probably think it’s very

that you probably think it’s very negative and most of times when people

negative and most of times when people

negative and most of times when people talk about factories and education they

talk about factories and education they

talk about factories and education they mean it in a very negative way but I

mean it in a very negative way but I

mean it in a very negative way but I would argue that a factory isn’t a bad

would argue that a factory isn’t a bad

would argue that a factory isn’t a bad analogy because when you think of a

analogy because when you think of a

analogy because when you think of a massive you know the national scale we

massive you know the national scale we

massive you know the national scale we need it to be as consistent as efficient

need it to be as consistent as efficient

need it to be as consistent as efficient as a factory we need it to be repeatable

as a factory we need it to be repeatable

as a factory we need it to be repeatable and consistent where everybody we turn

and consistent where everybody we turn

and consistent where everybody we turn out competent after competent after

out competent after competent after

out competent after competent after competent person who can really push our

competent person who can really push our

competent person who can really push our society forward the problem with this

society forward the problem with this

society forward the problem with this analogy is that we are so far from being

analogy is that we are so far from being

analogy is that we are so far from being a factory we are nowhere close to this

a factory we are nowhere close to this

a factory we are nowhere close to this efficiency and this takes the humanity

efficiency and this takes the humanity

efficiency and this takes the humanity out of learning what we’re actually a

out of learning what we’re actually a

out of learning what we’re actually a lot closer to is something like this if

lot closer to is something like this if

lot closer to is something like this if you guys are familiar with like the Rube

you guys are familiar with like the Rube

you guys are familiar with like the Rube Goldberg concept it’s basically you just

Goldberg concept it’s basically you just

Goldberg concept it’s basically you just put a bunch of random stuff together and

put a bunch of random stuff together and

put a bunch of random stuff together and they all do something that essentially

they all do something that essentially

they all do something that essentially pushes out something really simple so in

pushes out something really simple so in

pushes out something really simple so in this one we’ve got a clock that you know

this one we’ve got a clock that you know

this one we’ve got a clock that you know sets off a firework that hits a bird or

sets off a firework that hits a bird or

sets off a firework that hits a bird or something and then eventually it just

something and then eventually it just

something and then eventually it just wipes the guy’s face with a napkin like

wipes the guy’s face with a napkin like

wipes the guy’s face with a napkin like that’s the goal of it that’s what

that’s the goal of it that’s what

that’s the goal of it that’s what education is right now every year it’s

education is right now every year it’s

education is right now every year it’s something different

something different

something different oh this year it’s standards or its class

oh this year it’s standards or its class

oh this year it’s standards or its class sizes or its stem or its you know the

sizes or its stem or its you know the

sizes or its stem or its you know the the size of the school or we need you

the size of the school or we need you

the size of the school or we need you know more of this type of school it’s

know more of this type of school it’s

know more of this type of school it’s all these little tweaks that we think

all these little tweaks that we think

all these little tweaks that we think are getting at the fundamental problem

are getting at the fundamental problem

are getting at the fundamental problem and it’s just oh it’s just this one

and it’s just oh it’s just this one

and it’s just oh it’s just this one tweak and once we do that then then

tweak and once we do that then then

tweak and once we do that then then we’re good it’ll start turning out more

we’re good it’ll start turning out more

we’re good it’ll start turning out more kids who are ready I’m not here to argue

kids who are ready I’m not here to argue

kids who are ready I’m not here to argue that that is so far from the truth and

that that is so far from the truth and

that that is so far from the truth and that in reality we’re much more like a

that in reality we’re much more like a

that in reality we’re much more like a ship we’re a ship in the dead of night

ship we’re a ship in the dead of night

ship we’re a ship in the dead of night drifting in the dark there’s no compass

drifting in the dark there’s no compass

drifting in the dark there’s no compass there’s no destination there’s no stars

there’s no destination there’s no stars

there’s no destination there’s no stars to guide us

to guide us

to guide us and every year we’re just making these

and every year we’re just making these

and every year we’re just making these slight course corrections thinking that

slight course corrections thinking that

slight course corrections thinking that we’re going in the right direction but

we’re going in the right direction but

we’re going in the right direction but we’re really just drifting and we have

we’re really just drifting and we have

we’re really just drifting and we have no direction and so what I want to do is

no direction and so what I want to do is

no direction and so what I want to do is lay out a few fundamental truths about

lay out a few fundamental truths about

lay out a few fundamental truths about education so that we can stop talking

education so that we can stop talking

education so that we can stop talking about them and start getting past that

about them and start getting past that

about them and start getting past that and think differently about the

and think differently about the

and think differently about the educational experience because we spend

educational experience because we spend

educational experience because we spend most of our time in the education policy

most of our time in the education policy

most of our time in the education policy world argue about the same things so the

world argue about the same things so the

world argue about the same things so the first truth that I’ve recognized and

first truth that I’ve recognized and

first truth that I’ve recognized and everybody needs to come to grips with is

everybody needs to come to grips with is

everybody needs to come to grips with is we will never have an excellent teacher

we will never have an excellent teacher

we will never have an excellent teacher in every single classroom it’s a fact

in every single classroom it’s a fact

in every single classroom it’s a fact it’s a physical reality there is no

it’s a physical reality there is no

it’s a physical reality there is no possible way to have an excellent

possible way to have an excellent

possible way to have an excellent teacher in every classroom there are 3.1

teacher in every classroom there are 3.1

teacher in every classroom there are 3.1 million teachers in America there has

million teachers in America there has

million teachers in America there has never been a 3.1 million person

never been a 3.1 million person

never been a 3.1 million person workforce where everybody is excellent

workforce where everybody is excellent

workforce where everybody is excellent so we need to just accept that fact and

so we need to just accept that fact and

so we need to just accept that fact and move on number two things like charter

move on number two things like charter

move on number two things like charter schools and school choice should be

schools and school choice should be

schools and school choice should be looked at as iterations not as

looked at as iterations not as

looked at as iterations not as innovations and I’m not against charter

innovations and I’m not against charter

innovations and I’m not against charter schools at all I think we need R&D and

schools at all I think we need R&D and

schools at all I think we need R&D and education you know education is unique

education you know education is unique

education you know education is unique in that are our users or us or our

in that are our users or us or our

in that are our users or us or our products and so we need to be thinking

products and so we need to be thinking

products and so we need to be thinking about new ways to do this experience and

about new ways to do this experience and

about new ways to do this experience and charter schools can do that but the vast

charter schools can do that but the vast

charter schools can do that but the vast majority of them and there are a few

majority of them and there are a few

majority of them and there are a few that really pushed the boundaries and

that really pushed the boundaries and

that really pushed the boundaries and challenged the status quo but the vast

challenged the status quo but the vast

challenged the status quo but the vast majority are really just changing and

majority are really just changing and

majority are really just changing and tweaking little things oh this charter

tweaking little things oh this charter

tweaking little things oh this charter school has tiny classes or this school

school has tiny classes or this school

school has tiny classes or this school has a longer school day where this

has a longer school day where this

has a longer school day where this school only serves this type of student

school only serves this type of student

school only serves this type of student again those are tweaks on the existing

again those are tweaks on the existing

again those are tweaks on the existing failing model in my opinion and things

failing model in my opinion and things

failing model in my opinion and things like school choice the idea where

like school choice the idea where

like school choice the idea where students can opt into the lottery for

students can opt into the lottery for

students can opt into the lottery for any school in their city that relies on

any school in their city that relies on

any school in their city that relies on a lot of middle class assumptions that

a lot of middle class assumptions that

a lot of middle class assumptions that students have the wherewithal the

students have the wherewithal the

students have the wherewithal the internet access to get into a lottery

internet access to get into a lottery

internet access to get into a lottery and that they have the transportation

and that they have the transportation

and that they have the transportation actually consistently take advantage of

actually consistently take advantage of

actually consistently take advantage of that school choice and that’s why you

that school choice and that’s why you

that school choice and that’s why you see a lot of cities who have school

see a lot of cities who have school

see a lot of cities who have school choice they show clear gains in the in

choice they show clear gains in the in

choice they show clear gains in the in the short term but then when you dig

the short term but then when you dig

the short term but then when you dig deeper into the data the safe students

deeper into the data the safe students

deeper into the data the safe students are still struggling

are still struggling

are still struggling lastly beyond the fundamentals of

lastly beyond the fundamentals of

lastly beyond the fundamentals of reading writing math critical thinking a

reading writing math critical thinking a

reading writing math critical thinking a hard skills approach to education will

hard skills approach to education will

hard skills approach to education will never keep up so whether it’s cursive or

never keep up so whether it’s cursive or

never keep up so whether it’s cursive or CAD or coding these skills always become

CAD or coding these skills always become

CAD or coding these skills always become obsolete just at the time where we get

obsolete just at the time where we get

obsolete just at the time where we get almost okay at doing them take coding

almost okay at doing them take coding

almost okay at doing them take coding for example that’s like the big skill

for example that’s like the big skill

for example that’s like the big skill today everybody needs to learn coding

today everybody needs to learn coding

today everybody needs to learn coding but as you guys probably are

but as you guys probably are

but as you guys probably are we have these coding boot camps out

we have these coding boot camps out

we have these coding boot camps out there right 12 to 14 week programs to

there right 12 to 14 week programs to

there right 12 to 14 week programs to teach anybody how to code as long as you

teach anybody how to code as long as you

teach anybody how to code as long as you have a high school diploma so you’re

have a high school diploma so you’re

have a high school diploma so you’re telling me we can teach anybody with a

telling me we can teach anybody with a

telling me we can teach anybody with a high school diploma how to code in 12

high school diploma how to code in 12

high school diploma how to code in 12 weeks why would we spend four to eight

weeks why would we spend four to eight

weeks why would we spend four to eight years in the k-12 system teaching them

years in the k-12 system teaching them

years in the k-12 system teaching them that why not make that part of corporate

that why not make that part of corporate

that why not make that part of corporate responsibility to train their own

responsibility to train their own

responsibility to train their own workers they do that anyways the

workers they do that anyways the

workers they do that anyways the majority of and for the students the

majority of and for the students the

majority of and for the students the room majority of what you’re gonna do in

room majority of what you’re gonna do in

room majority of what you’re gonna do in your job you learn on the job I never

your job you learn on the job I never

your job you learn on the job I never trained to be an executive director or a

trained to be an executive director or a

trained to be an executive director or a teacher really even most of my

teacher really even most of my

teacher really even most of my colleagues and my friends didn’t train

colleagues and my friends didn’t train

colleagues and my friends didn’t train to be the position they’re doing today

to be the position they’re doing today

to be the position they’re doing today they’re just resourceful capable

they’re just resourceful capable

they’re just resourceful capable collaborative critical thinkers so

collaborative critical thinkers so

collaborative critical thinkers so focusing on hard skills and trying to

focusing on hard skills and trying to

focusing on hard skills and trying to force them into the educational

force them into the educational

force them into the educational experience will will never keep up okay

experience will will never keep up okay

experience will will never keep up okay so what can we do because I think in our

so what can we do because I think in our

so what can we do because I think in our guts we all know that education can be

guts we all know that education can be

guts we all know that education can be so much more it can be a place where

so much more it can be a place where

so much more it can be a place where intellectual curiosity is fostered every

intellectual curiosity is fostered every

intellectual curiosity is fostered every single day because we’ve all experienced

single day because we’ve all experienced

single day because we’ve all experienced that moment right now we think about

that moment right now we think about

that moment right now we think about engineering the environment we focused

engineering the environment we focused

engineering the environment we focused on the school building we focus on the

on the school building we focus on the

on the school building we focus on the teacher the technology how many kids are

teacher the technology how many kids are

teacher the technology how many kids are in the classroom and this is engineering

in the classroom and this is engineering

in the classroom and this is engineering the environment and these are all

the environment and these are all

the environment and these are all factors that influence education but

factors that influence education but

factors that influence education but they’re not fundamental to the success

they’re not fundamental to the success

they’re not fundamental to the success and I know that because I had different

and I know that because I had different

and I know that because I had different teachers than you I wasn’t a different

teachers than you I wasn’t a different

teachers than you I wasn’t a different school building you I had different

school building you I had different

school building you I had different standards into our different technology

standards into our different technology

standards into our different technology than you my classes were a different

than you my classes were a different

than you my classes were a different size than you and yet we’re all here

size than you and yet we’re all here

size than you and yet we’re all here we’re all in this room achieving some

we’re all in this room achieving some

we’re all in this room achieving some level of success so it can’t be these

level of success so it can’t be these

level of success so it can’t be these things that are fundamental what we need

things that are fundamental what we need

things that are fundamental what we need to do is intent instead get into the

to do is intent instead get into the

to do is intent instead get into the mind of a student really think about the

mind of a student really think about the

mind of a student really think about the student experience how are they

student experience how are they

student experience how are they experiencing these different concepts

experiencing these different concepts

experiencing these different concepts how are they relating them how can we

how are they relating them how can we

how are they relating them how can we get kids inspired instead of keeping

get kids inspired instead of keeping

get kids inspired instead of keeping them in line how can we instead of

them in line how can we instead of

them in line how can we instead of probably promoting compliance promote

probably promoting compliance promote

probably promoting compliance promote creativity and collaboration how can we

creativity and collaboration how can we

creativity and collaboration how can we get students in focus and in flow

get students in focus and in flow

get students in focus and in flow instead of in routine we need to start

instead of in routine we need to start

instead of in routine we need to start thinking about how students experience

thinking about how students experience

thinking about how students experience this so we develop their skills and

this so we develop their skills and

this so we develop their skills and their individuality together and we need

their individuality together and we need

their individuality together and we need to start thinking about it at scale

to start thinking about it at scale

to start thinking about it at scale because until we do more and more

because until we do more and more

because until we do more and more students and educators like myself my

students and educators like myself my

students and educators like myself my colleagues Natasha will be in these

colleagues Natasha will be in these

colleagues Natasha will be in these terrible scenarios where we have no

terrible scenarios where we have no

terrible scenarios where we have no guiding light we have no idea where

guiding light we have no idea where

guiding light we have no idea where we’re going and we make these decisions

we’re going and we make these decisions

we’re going and we make these decisions that end up just crippling our society

that end up just crippling our society

that end up just crippling our society year after year after you

year after year after you

year after year after you and will continue to be teaching in the

and will continue to be teaching in the

and will continue to be teaching in the dark thank you

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