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this photo was taken on my wedding day

this photo was taken on my wedding day the second of August 2014 your wedding

the second of August 2014 your wedding

the second of August 2014 your wedding day is supposed to be one of the

day is supposed to be one of the

day is supposed to be one of the happiest days of your life but unknown

happiest days of your life but unknown

happiest days of your life but unknown to anyone else at the time the day

to anyone else at the time the day

to anyone else at the time the day before my wedding

before my wedding

before my wedding I had gambled everything that we had to

I had gambled everything that we had to

I had gambled everything that we had to pay for the wedding and I spent the next

pay for the wedding and I spent the next

pay for the wedding and I spent the next 24 hours borrowing money from payday

24 hours borrowing money from payday

24 hours borrowing money from payday loans getting advances in my pay to

loans getting advances in my pay to

loans getting advances in my pay to ensure that I could feed guests but this

ensure that I could feed guests but this

ensure that I could feed guests but this was my life as a compulsive gambler as a

was my life as a compulsive gambler as a

was my life as a compulsive gambler as a gambler I was a liar I was a manipulator

gambler I was a liar I was a manipulator

gambler I was a liar I was a manipulator I was a thief I was verbally abusive I

I was a thief I was verbally abusive I

I was a thief I was verbally abusive I always push the blame to everyone else

always push the blame to everyone else

always push the blame to everyone else but me I pride myself on my honesty and

but me I pride myself on my honesty and

but me I pride myself on my honesty and my loyalty and my love for my family and

my loyalty and my love for my family and

my loyalty and my love for my family and friends but my addiction turned me into

friends but my addiction turned me into

friends but my addiction turned me into a horrible devious man I was blaming my

a horrible devious man I was blaming my

a horrible devious man I was blaming my wife for her spending habits when in

wife for her spending habits when in

wife for her spending habits when in reality I’d spent 300 pounds in the

reality I’d spent 300 pounds in the

reality I’d spent 300 pounds in the blink of an eye so how does a man who

blink of an eye so how does a man who

blink of an eye so how does a man who had a successful career and a loving

had a successful career and a loving

had a successful career and a loving family and of losing 250,000 pounds in

family and of losing 250,000 pounds in

family and of losing 250,000 pounds in the space of 12 years on a gambling

the space of 12 years on a gambling

the space of 12 years on a gambling addiction my first memory of gambling

addiction my first memory of gambling

addiction my first memory of gambling was when I was quite young I used to go

was when I was quite young I used to go

was when I was quite young I used to go with my dad and his friends to the pub

with my dad and his friends to the pub

with my dad and his friends to the pub and my dad was in a heavy gambler or at

and my dad was in a heavy gambler or at

and my dad was in a heavy gambler or at all he would have the odd flutter here

all he would have the odd flutter here

all he would have the odd flutter here in there he’d put in two or three pounds

in there he’d put in two or three pounds

in there he’d put in two or three pounds in the machine and I would watch them

in the machine and I would watch them

in the machine and I would watch them watch the machine the flashing lights

watch the machine the flashing lights

watch the machine the flashing lights the money going in the money going out

the money going in the money going out

the money going in the money going out and this would just mesmerize me

and this would just mesmerize me

and this would just mesmerize me obviously at that age I didn’t

obviously at that age I didn’t

obviously at that age I didn’t understand the dangers of gambling at

understand the dangers of gambling at

understand the dangers of gambling at the age of 16 I decided to gamble by

the age of 16 I decided to gamble by

the age of 16 I decided to gamble by myself go into the local CAF with my

myself go into the local CAF with my

myself go into the local CAF with my friends and there was a fruit machine

friends and there was a fruit machine

friends and there was a fruit machine there and again it started off

there and again it started off

there and again it started off innocently me putting in a couple of

innocently me putting in a couple of

innocently me putting in a couple of pounds just going on our lunch break but

pounds just going on our lunch break but

pounds just going on our lunch break but then

then

then turning to me spending my time there for

turning to me spending my time there for

turning to me spending my time there for two-three hours at a time

two-three hours at a time

two-three hours at a time gambling missing class and rather than

gambling missing class and rather than

gambling missing class and rather than doing what most 16 year-olds will be

doing what most 16 year-olds will be

doing what most 16 year-olds will be doing like chatting up girls or playing

doing like chatting up girls or playing

doing like chatting up girls or playing football I was just hooked on these

football I was just hooked on these

football I was just hooked on these machines the next year a friend of mine

machines the next year a friend of mine

machines the next year a friend of mine introduced me to the bookies and in the

introduced me to the bookies and in the

introduced me to the bookies and in the bookies as we walked in there were these

bookies as we walked in there were these

bookies as we walked in there were these machines fixed odds betting terminals

machines fixed odds betting terminals

machines fixed odds betting terminals otherwise known as fo BTS

otherwise known as fo BTS

otherwise known as fo BTS they’re known in the gambling industry

they’re known in the gambling industry

they’re known in the gambling industry as the crack cocaine of gambling their

as the crack cocaine of gambling their

as the crack cocaine of gambling their casino style machines where you can play

casino style machines where you can play

casino style machines where you can play roulette or blackjack or slots you

roulette or blackjack or slots you

roulette or blackjack or slots you deposit your cash into the machine or if

deposit your cash into the machine or if

deposit your cash into the machine or if you don’t have cash you simply take your

you don’t have cash you simply take your

you don’t have cash you simply take your card to the counter but as much money as

card to the counter but as much money as

card to the counter but as much money as you like straight onto the machine there

you like straight onto the machine there

you like straight onto the machine there are usually four in every bookies and I

are usually four in every bookies and I

are usually four in every bookies and I sat there with him as he put ten pounds

sat there with him as he put ten pounds

sat there with him as he put ten pounds into the machine and within minutes he

into the machine and within minutes he

into the machine and within minutes he had 100 pounds I couldn’t contemplate

had 100 pounds I couldn’t contemplate

had 100 pounds I couldn’t contemplate how it was possible to earn such a large

how it was possible to earn such a large

how it was possible to earn such a large amount of money in such a short space of

amount of money in such a short space of

amount of money in such a short space of time

time

time obviously I didn’t see the losses that

obviously I didn’t see the losses that

obviously I didn’t see the losses that coupled up just to give you an idea of

coupled up just to give you an idea of

coupled up just to give you an idea of how addictive and destructive these

how addictive and destructive these

how addictive and destructive these machines are you can bet a hundred

machines are you can bet a hundred

machines are you can bet a hundred pounds every 20 seconds on these

pounds every 20 seconds on these

pounds every 20 seconds on these machines that’s 300 pounds a minute or

machines that’s 300 pounds a minute or

machines that’s 300 pounds a minute or 9,000 pounds in half an hour

9,000 pounds in half an hour

9,000 pounds in half an hour 9,000 pounds is a car 9,000 pounds is a

9,000 pounds is a car 9,000 pounds is a

9,000 pounds is a car 9,000 pounds is a year at uni how was it possible to lose

year at uni how was it possible to lose

year at uni how was it possible to lose 9,000 pounds in the space of half an

9,000 pounds in the space of half an

9,000 pounds in the space of half an hour in the UK High Street the

hour in the UK High Street the

hour in the UK High Street the University of Cambridgeshire recently

University of Cambridgeshire recently

University of Cambridgeshire recently did a study into the brain of a

did a study into the brain of a

did a study into the brain of a compulsive gambler and what they

compulsive gambler and what they

compulsive gambler and what they concluded is that the endorphins that

concluded is that the endorphins that

concluded is that the endorphins that you get during a gambling addiction are

you get during a gambling addiction are

you get during a gambling addiction are exactly the same is that for a drug user

exactly the same is that for a drug user

exactly the same is that for a drug user during a drug addiction and so with

during a drug addiction and so with

during a drug addiction and so with these machines getting that hit

these machines getting that hit

these machines getting that hit every 20 seconds is even more powerful

every 20 seconds is even more powerful

every 20 seconds is even more powerful to us and it’s the reason why we just

to us and it’s the reason why we just

to us and it’s the reason why we just continued to gamble constantly in fact

continued to gamble constantly in fact

continued to gamble constantly in fact the UK is the only developed country to

the UK is the only developed country to

the UK is the only developed country to be able to have these machines on the

be able to have these machines on the

be able to have these machines on the high street which allow you to gamble

high street which allow you to gamble

high street which allow you to gamble 100 pounds every 20 seconds how is this

100 pounds every 20 seconds how is this

100 pounds every 20 seconds how is this possible

possible

possible so what is compulsive gambling

so what is compulsive gambling

so what is compulsive gambling compulsive gambling otherwise known as

compulsive gambling otherwise known as

compulsive gambling otherwise known as pathological gambling is an impulse

pathological gambling is an impulse

pathological gambling is an impulse control disorder which means we can’t

control disorder which means we can’t

control disorder which means we can’t control the impulse to gamble even if it

control the impulse to gamble even if it

control the impulse to gamble even if it has negative consequences there are

has negative consequences there are

has negative consequences there are 500,000 problem gamblers in the UK which

500,000 problem gamblers in the UK which

500,000 problem gamblers in the UK which is up 1/3 in 3 years and they say for

is up 1/3 in 3 years and they say for

is up 1/3 in 3 years and they say for each problem gambler

each problem gambler

each problem gambler it affects at least 6 family or friends

it affects at least 6 family or friends

it affects at least 6 family or friends that’s 3 million people in the UK

that’s 3 million people in the UK

that’s 3 million people in the UK affected by problem gambling the thing

affected by problem gambling the thing

affected by problem gambling the thing about problem gambling is is very much a

about problem gambling is is very much a

about problem gambling is is very much a hidden addiction with alcohol addiction

hidden addiction with alcohol addiction

hidden addiction with alcohol addiction or drug addiction you can see the

or drug addiction you can see the

or drug addiction you can see the effects that it has in those individuals

effects that it has in those individuals

effects that it has in those individuals but with gambling you just can’t tell

but with gambling you just can’t tell

but with gambling you just can’t tell I’ve walked out of bookies sick to the

I’ve walked out of bookies sick to the

I’ve walked out of bookies sick to the pit of my stomach where I’ve gambled a

pit of my stomach where I’ve gambled a

pit of my stomach where I’ve gambled a month’s wages in the space of half an

month’s wages in the space of half an

month’s wages in the space of half an hour my rent money the thought of my

hour my rent money the thought of my

hour my rent money the thought of my family being on the street and then the

family being on the street and then the

family being on the street and then the guilt sets in and I realized what I’ve

guilt sets in and I realized what I’ve

guilt sets in and I realized what I’ve done and I have to live with the

done and I have to live with the

done and I have to live with the consequences my life was utterly

consequences my life was utterly

consequences my life was utterly dictated by these machines I recently

dictated by these machines I recently

dictated by these machines I recently did a number of interviews for the BBC

did a number of interviews for the BBC

did a number of interviews for the BBC and ITV about gambling addiction and all

and ITV about gambling addiction and all

and ITV about gambling addiction and all the questions that was asked were how

the questions that was asked were how

the questions that was asked were how much did you lose and how bad did it get

much did you lose and how bad did it get

much did you lose and how bad did it get and how much did you lose in your lunch

and how much did you lose in your lunch

and how much did you lose in your lunch break and everything was just money

break and everything was just money

break and everything was just money related and I really didn’t like these

related and I really didn’t like these

related and I really didn’t like these questions and I’ll tell you why the

questions and I’ll tell you why the

questions and I’ll tell you why the money is irrelevant and I know that

money is irrelevant and I know that

money is irrelevant and I know that sounds silly but it really is obviously

sounds silly but it really is obviously

sounds silly but it really is obviously at the time it was important and it was

at the time it was important and it was

at the time it was important and it was the reason why I was gambling but I can

the reason why I was gambling but I can

the reason why I was gambling but I can earn money back through hard work yes it

earn money back through hard work yes it

earn money back through hard work yes it will take me a long time to earn 250,000

will take me a long time to earn 250,000

will take me a long time to earn 250,000 pounds back but I can what I can’t

pounds back but I can what I can’t

pounds back but I can what I can’t is take away the pain that I caused my

is take away the pain that I caused my

is take away the pain that I caused my family what I can’t do is get that time

family what I can’t do is get that time

family what I can’t do is get that time back that I lost with my children as i

back that I lost with my children as i

back that I lost with my children as i sat there gambling my gambling addiction

sat there gambling my gambling addiction

sat there gambling my gambling addiction led me to ignoring my children it led me

led me to ignoring my children it led me

led me to ignoring my children it led me to do the 4 a.m. night feed with our

to do the 4 a.m. night feed with our

to do the 4 a.m. night feed with our first child but not because I wanted to

first child but not because I wanted to

first child but not because I wanted to help my wife but because I wanted to

help my wife but because I wanted to

help my wife but because I wanted to stay up gambling till four o’clock in

stay up gambling till four o’clock in

stay up gambling till four o’clock in the morning it led me to gambling my

the morning it led me to gambling my

the morning it led me to gambling my rent money it was looking for that hit

rent money it was looking for that hit

rent money it was looking for that hit all the time I was constantly on the

all the time I was constantly on the

all the time I was constantly on the phone and I was always lying I turned

phone and I was always lying I turned

phone and I was always lying I turned into a selfish man I was always looking

into a selfish man I was always looking

into a selfish man I was always looking for that instant fix and that’s the

for that instant fix and that’s the

for that instant fix and that’s the thing with gambling addiction there

thing with gambling addiction there

thing with gambling addiction there isn’t one it either ends by a stopping

isn’t one it either ends by a stopping

isn’t one it either ends by a stopping like I have now or ends with us on the

like I have now or ends with us on the

like I have now or ends with us on the streets in prison or dead and that is a

streets in prison or dead and that is a

streets in prison or dead and that is a stark reality of it on January the 28th

stark reality of it on January the 28th

stark reality of it on January the 28th 2016 I decided that enough was enough

2016 I decided that enough was enough

2016 I decided that enough was enough I walked into the local gammas Anonymous

I walked into the local gammas Anonymous

I walked into the local gammas Anonymous room on a Thursday in Kingston and I sat

room on a Thursday in Kingston and I sat

room on a Thursday in Kingston and I sat there as I wanted to know what I could

there as I wanted to know what I could

there as I wanted to know what I could do to stop the chair for the evening was

do to stop the chair for the evening was

do to stop the chair for the evening was Ken and he really helped me in

Ken and he really helped me in

Ken and he really helped me in understanding of my addiction I had been

understanding of my addiction I had been

understanding of my addiction I had been to gammas Anonymous a number of times

to gammas Anonymous a number of times

to gammas Anonymous a number of times over the last 12 years but this time

over the last 12 years but this time

over the last 12 years but this time felt different this time I felt a

felt different this time I felt a

felt different this time I felt a connection I met lots of different

connection I met lots of different

connection I met lots of different people from all walks of life and that’s

people from all walks of life and that’s

people from all walks of life and that’s the thing with gambling addiction is

the thing with gambling addiction is

the thing with gambling addiction is there is no make up for an addict it can

there is no make up for an addict it can

there is no make up for an addict it can happen to anyone I chaired my first

happen to anyone I chaired my first

happen to anyone I chaired my first meeting after a few months and now I was

meeting after a few months and now I was

meeting after a few months and now I was giving advice to other people the same

giving advice to other people the same

giving advice to other people the same advice that Ken gave me for 12 years I

advice that Ken gave me for 12 years I

advice that Ken gave me for 12 years I was selfish for 12 years I was a

was selfish for 12 years I was a

was selfish for 12 years I was a horrible man now was the time to make up

horrible man now was the time to make up

horrible man now was the time to make up to my family and try and help others

to my family and try and help others

to my family and try and help others I’ve got in touch with the BBC of

I’ve got in touch with the BBC of

I’ve got in touch with the BBC of few months after I gave up because I

few months after I gave up because I

few months after I gave up because I wanted to show the effects of these

wanted to show the effects of these

wanted to show the effects of these machines and how bad they can get they

machines and how bad they can get they

machines and how bad they can get they put me in touch with the MP for Swansea

put me in touch with the MP for Swansea

put me in touch with the MP for Swansea Carolyn Harris who was running a

Carolyn Harris who was running a

Carolyn Harris who was running a campaign in government to try and reduce

campaign in government to try and reduce

campaign in government to try and reduce the stakes on on these machines from a

the stakes on on these machines from a

the stakes on on these machines from a hundred pounds every twenty seconds to

hundred pounds every twenty seconds to

hundred pounds every twenty seconds to two pounds i sat with her and we filled

two pounds i sat with her and we filled

two pounds i sat with her and we filled out an evidence pack to was about six

out an evidence pack to was about six

out an evidence pack to was about six pages long but that was submitted as

pages long but that was submitted as

pages long but that was submitted as part of the the hearing and on generally

part of the the hearing and on generally

part of the the hearing and on generally the 23rd we had should have an outcome

the 23rd we had should have an outcome

the 23rd we had should have an outcome and hopefully we’ll get to pound snakes

and hopefully we’ll get to pound snakes

and hopefully we’ll get to pound snakes what worries me most about these

what worries me most about these

what worries me most about these machines is that it starts off as a

machines is that it starts off as a

machines is that it starts off as a social thing just like it did with me

social thing just like it did with me

social thing just like it did with me and then you turn into going into your

and then you turn into going into your

and then you turn into going into your lock onto your lunch breaks spending

lock onto your lunch breaks spending

lock onto your lunch breaks spending your whole month’s wages just like it

your whole month’s wages just like it

your whole month’s wages just like it did with me

did with me

did with me the thing is the reality of it is we’re

the thing is the reality of it is we’re

the thing is the reality of it is we’re never going to stop gambling addiction

never going to stop gambling addiction

never going to stop gambling addiction there are always going to be addicts but

there are always going to be addicts but

there are always going to be addicts but as a country we need to do more to

as a country we need to do more to

as a country we need to do more to minimise the risk and at the moment

minimise the risk and at the moment

minimise the risk and at the moment we’re not having a hundred pound stakes

we’re not having a hundred pound stakes

we’re not having a hundred pound stakes every 20 seconds is not minimizing the

every 20 seconds is not minimizing the

every 20 seconds is not minimizing the risk having the spin speed every 20

risk having the spin speed every 20

risk having the spin speed every 20 seconds

seconds

seconds we’re gamblers are getting that

we’re gamblers are getting that

we’re gamblers are getting that endorphin and that hit is not minimizing

endorphin and that hit is not minimizing

endorphin and that hit is not minimizing the risk having four to five bookies on

the risk having four to five bookies on

the risk having four to five bookies on every High Street is not minimizing the

every High Street is not minimizing the

every High Street is not minimizing the risk and having no education about

risk and having no education about

risk and having no education about gambling addiction in schools is not

gambling addiction in schools is not

gambling addiction in schools is not minimizing the risk over the past 22

minimizing the risk over the past 22

minimizing the risk over the past 22 months of my recovery I’ve learned a few

months of my recovery I’ve learned a few

months of my recovery I’ve learned a few things and these are the things that I

things and these are the things that I

things and these are the things that I think are really important in any type

think are really important in any type

think are really important in any type of addiction recovery the first is being

of addiction recovery the first is being

of addiction recovery the first is being honest absolutely honest to your people

honest absolutely honest to your people

honest absolutely honest to your people will parent your family and your friends

will parent your family and your friends

will parent your family and your friends around you about what you’ve done and

around you about what you’ve done and

around you about what you’ve done and it’s not just about being honest then

it’s not just about being honest then

it’s not just about being honest then it’s about being honest in the future

it’s about being honest in the future

it’s about being honest in the future whenever I’m struggling I always talk to

whenever I’m struggling I always talk to

whenever I’m struggling I always talk to my wife about how things are going and

my wife about how things are going and

my wife about how things are going and how I’m feeling the second is having a

how I’m feeling the second is having a

how I’m feeling the second is having a consequence of motivation

consequence of motivation

consequence of motivation if you have no consequence or motivation

if you have no consequence or motivation

if you have no consequence or motivation to give up it’s really tough there needs

to give up it’s really tough there needs

to give up it’s really tough there needs to be a reason for you to stop every

to be a reason for you to stop every

to be a reason for you to stop every time I walk to a bookies I think of a

time I walk to a bookies I think of a

time I walk to a bookies I think of a scale my family on one side and gambling

scale my family on one side and gambling

scale my family on one side and gambling on the other which is more important to

on the other which is more important to

on the other which is more important to me and the third is getting help whether

me and the third is getting help whether

me and the third is getting help whether that be through gammas Anonymous or

that be through gammas Anonymous or

that be through gammas Anonymous or alcoholics Anonymous or Narcotics

alcoholics Anonymous or Narcotics

alcoholics Anonymous or Narcotics Anonymous or even go into your GP to see

Anonymous or even go into your GP to see

Anonymous or even go into your GP to see what’s available in the NHS is really

what’s available in the NHS is really

what’s available in the NHS is really important that you get support my

important that you get support my

important that you get support my addiction is lifelong I have to deal

addiction is lifelong I have to deal

addiction is lifelong I have to deal with the fact that I can never gamble

with the fact that I can never gamble

with the fact that I can never gamble again and I miss it I really do and

again and I miss it I really do and

again and I miss it I really do and that’s that that’s the hardest thing is

that’s that that’s the hardest thing is

that’s that that’s the hardest thing is that I have to live with the fact that I

that I have to live with the fact that I

that I have to live with the fact that I can’t do something I really enjoyed but

can’t do something I really enjoyed but

can’t do something I really enjoyed but I can’t continue with that because I

I can’t continue with that because I

I can’t continue with that because I know it will take me back to where I was

so as my talk comes to a close there’s a

so as my talk comes to a close there’s a few things I want you to take away

few things I want you to take away

few things I want you to take away tonight the first thing is remember that

tonight the first thing is remember that

tonight the first thing is remember that gambling addiction can happen to anyone

gambling addiction can happen to anyone

gambling addiction can happen to anyone there is no makeup

there is no makeup

there is no makeup we aren’t inherently bad people we’ve

we aren’t inherently bad people we’ve

we aren’t inherently bad people we’ve just made bad decisions

just made bad decisions

just made bad decisions the second is recovery getting help and

the second is recovery getting help and

the second is recovery getting help and breaking that cycle is so important and

breaking that cycle is so important and

breaking that cycle is so important and that’s one of the key reasons why I’ve

that’s one of the key reasons why I’ve

that’s one of the key reasons why I’ve stopped and the third is education I

stopped and the third is education I

stopped and the third is education I urge you to speak to your kids your

urge you to speak to your kids your

urge you to speak to your kids your grandkids your nieces your nephews about

grandkids your nieces your nephews about

grandkids your nieces your nephews about the dangers of gambling addiction I know

the dangers of gambling addiction I know

the dangers of gambling addiction I know that gambling can happen at any time

that gambling can happen at any time

that gambling can happen at any time stopping isn’t simple but life is much

stopping isn’t simple but life is much

stopping isn’t simple but life is much better now I have my priorities straight

better now I have my priorities straight

better now I have my priorities straight and I am the person I always wanted to

and I am the person I always wanted to

and I am the person I always wanted to be thank you

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