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[Music] that simpler improvised musical phrase

that simpler improvised musical phrase

that simpler improvised musical phrase there it’s quite easy for me to do

there it’s quite easy for me to do

there it’s quite easy for me to do because I’ve been playing for a long

because I’ve been playing for a long

because I’ve been playing for a long time but how do I go about teaching that

time but how do I go about teaching that

time but how do I go about teaching that to these young musicians in the band

to these young musicians in the band

to these young musicians in the band there you can sit down guys well a lot

there you can sit down guys well a lot

there you can sit down guys well a lot of people have said to me before

of people have said to me before

of people have said to me before isn’t jazz all just made up as you go

isn’t jazz all just made up as you go

isn’t jazz all just made up as you go along and after I help them back up off

along and after I help them back up off

along and after I help them back up off the floor I’ll say Oh unknown not quite

the floor I’ll say Oh unknown not quite

the floor I’ll say Oh unknown not quite jazz like all forms of music has its own

jazz like all forms of music has its own

jazz like all forms of music has its own distinctive sound its own language and

distinctive sound its own language and

distinctive sound its own language and when we speak we all use words and

when we speak we all use words and

when we speak we all use words and phrases we know already don’t we to

phrases we know already don’t we to

phrases we know already don’t we to convey but we want to stay we can give a

convey but we want to stay we can give a

convey but we want to stay we can give a speech we’ve already prepared or we can

speech we’ve already prepared or we can

speech we’ve already prepared or we can speak off the cuff deciding what we want

speak off the cuff deciding what we want

speak off the cuff deciding what we want to say as we go along in jazz and other

to say as we go along in jazz and other

to say as we go along in jazz and other forms of music that future improvisation

forms of music that future improvisation

forms of music that future improvisation are no different from that we can play

are no different from that we can play

are no different from that we can play the bit we’ve prepared the main melody

the bit we’ve prepared the main melody

the bit we’ve prepared the main melody the bit you might recognize but we can

the bit you might recognize but we can

the bit you might recognize but we can also make some stuff up play around with

also make some stuff up play around with

also make some stuff up play around with that melody introduce their own ideas

that melody introduce their own ideas

that melody introduce their own ideas playing off-the-cuff therefore

playing off-the-cuff therefore

playing off-the-cuff therefore improvising I’d just like to show you

improvising I’d just like to show you

improvising I’d just like to show you one approach I take to teaching young

one approach I take to teaching young

one approach I take to teaching young musicians the very beginnings of

musicians the very beginnings of

musicians the very beginnings of improvising and when you’re playing in a

improvising and when you’re playing in a

improvising and when you’re playing in a band like this it can be quite daunting

band like this it can be quite daunting

band like this it can be quite daunting to get up and play in front of everyone

to get up and play in front of everyone

to get up and play in front of everyone placed solo in front of everyone so

placed solo in front of everyone so

placed solo in front of everyone so let’s start from a really simple point

let’s start from a really simple point

let’s start from a really simple point now this is going to require a bit of

now this is going to require a bit of

now this is going to require a bit of audience participation so that simple

audience participation so that simple

audience participation so that simple point we’re gonna start from it’s just

point we’re gonna start from it’s just

point we’re gonna start from it’s just one single sound just a single note I’d

one single sound just a single note I’d

one single sound just a single note I’d like you to sing it back to me

that’s excellent you can’t go home early

that’s excellent you can’t go home early fantastic okay let’s play around on that

fantastic okay let’s play around on that

fantastic okay let’s play around on that note for a little bit

okay now with just three notes there we

okay now with just three notes there we already have infinite possibilities for

already have infinite possibilities for

already have infinite possibilities for improvisation we can play the notes in a

improvisation we can play the notes in a

improvisation we can play the notes in a different order we can repeat the same

different order we can repeat the same

different order we can repeat the same note several times we can leave gaps

note several times we can leave gaps

note several times we can leave gaps play long notes and short notes so we’ve

play long notes and short notes so we’ve

play long notes and short notes so we’ve gone from that single sound which we can

gone from that single sound which we can

gone from that single sound which we can think of as the equivalent of a one word

think of as the equivalent of a one word

think of as the equivalent of a one word or one syllable to building up words and

or one syllable to building up words and

or one syllable to building up words and building up phrases and by copying what

building up phrases and by copying what

building up phrases and by copying what I’m playing there you’re really doing

I’m playing there you’re really doing

I’m playing there you’re really doing what a young child does when she first

what a young child does when she first

what a young child does when she first learns to speak starting with a syllable

learns to speak starting with a syllable

learns to speak starting with a syllable and building up into words let’s try

and building up into words let’s try

and building up into words let’s try some phrases on those three notes

some of us tried that I love that now

some of us tried that I love that now with the exception of that last example

with the exception of that last example

with the exception of that last example there you found that really easy just to

there you found that really easy just to

there you found that really easy just to copy what I played you can hear it and

copy what I played you can hear it and

copy what I played you can hear it and sing it straight back we’re very good at

sing it straight back we’re very good at

sing it straight back we’re very good at that as human beings now unfortunately

that as human beings now unfortunately

that as human beings now unfortunately for our young musicians in band here

for our young musicians in band here

for our young musicians in band here they’re not human beings no I’m joking

they’re not human beings no I’m joking

they’re not human beings no I’m joking they’re definitely human but they do

they’re definitely human but they do

they’re definitely human but they do have the obstacle of a musical

have the obstacle of a musical

have the obstacle of a musical instrument so we can hear the note but

instrument so we can hear the note but

instrument so we can hear the note but we have to get it back out onto the

we have to get it back out onto the

we have to get it back out onto the instrument and it’s a bit like having to

instrument and it’s a bit like having to

instrument and it’s a bit like having to translate so you’ll hear that when I

translate so you’ll hear that when I

translate so you’ll hear that when I play them the first note that first

play them the first note that first

play them the first note that first syllable we talked about you might find

syllable we talked about you might find

syllable we talked about you might find there’s a bit of trial and error trying

there’s a bit of trial and error trying

there’s a bit of trial and error trying to get the note and that trial and error

to get the note and that trial and error

to get the note and that trial and error is really in point it’s important give

is really in point it’s important give

is really in point it’s important give them give them the space to to have that

them give them the space to to have that

them give them the space to to have that room for error

room for error

room for error because that’s how we overcome problems

because that’s how we overcome problems

because that’s how we overcome problems it’s even more important they give

it’s even more important they give

it’s even more important they give themselves room to make mistakes to get

themselves room to make mistakes to get

themselves room to make mistakes to get over the psychological problem of the

over the psychological problem of the

over the psychological problem of the idea that I must get it right no you

idea that I must get it right no you

idea that I must get it right no you must get it wrong that’s how you learn

must get it wrong that’s how you learn

must get it wrong that’s how you learn stuff so let’s just try a single note

stuff so let’s just try a single note

stuff so let’s just try a single note band

okay so we found it eventually you might

okay so we found it eventually you might notice the trombones got that note

notice the trombones got that note

notice the trombones got that note before everyone else and that’s because

before everyone else and that’s because

before everyone else and that’s because trombonist are better than everyone else

trombonist are better than everyone else

trombonist are better than everyone else or maybe because my slide was in in an

or maybe because my slide was in in an

or maybe because my slide was in in an obvious position and they could they

obvious position and they could they

obvious position and they could they could copy they could use a visual aid

could copy they could use a visual aid

could copy they could use a visual aid of whether a slide was there okay so

of whether a slide was there okay so

of whether a slide was there okay so let’s try a second note okay now like

let’s try a second note okay now like

let’s try a second note okay now like you they could clearly hear that the

you they could clearly hear that the

you they could clearly hear that the second note was higher than the first

second note was higher than the first

second note was higher than the first note but the question is how much higher

note but the question is how much higher

note but the question is how much higher we have to know the interval between the

we have to know the interval between the

we have to know the interval between the notes the music leans well that’s the

notes the music leans well that’s the

notes the music leans well that’s the distance between the two notes and so we

distance between the two notes and so we

distance between the two notes and so we need to use listening skill – do I need

need to use listening skill – do I need

need to use listening skill – do I need to employ listening skills and develop

to employ listening skills and develop

to employ listening skills and develop them to be able to do that but we also

them to be able to do that but we also

them to be able to do that but we also need to listen on a much more general

need to listen on a much more general

need to listen on a much more general level we need to listen to lots of music

level we need to listen to lots of music

level we need to listen to lots of music if you want to play a jazz solo it’s not

if you want to play a jazz solo it’s not

if you want to play a jazz solo it’s not much used if you haven’t heard much jazz

much used if you haven’t heard much jazz

much used if you haven’t heard much jazz music before so we might listen to Miles

music before so we might listen to Miles

music before so we might listen to Miles Davis John Coltrane Louie Armstrong

Davis John Coltrane Louie Armstrong

Davis John Coltrane Louie Armstrong person sitting next to us and think wow

person sitting next to us and think wow

person sitting next to us and think wow that sounds really good I’d love to

that sounds really good I’d love to

that sounds really good I’d love to sound like that and so you imitate what

sound like that and so you imitate what

sound like that and so you imitate what they’re playing or try to at least and

they’re playing or try to at least and

they’re playing or try to at least and you’re never going to sound like like

you’re never going to sound like like

you’re never going to sound like like those people never gonna send anyone

those people never gonna send anyone

those people never gonna send anyone because everyone’s got their own

because everyone’s got their own

because everyone’s got their own individual sound but by trying we find

individual sound but by trying we find

individual sound but by trying we find our own sound and this is where making

our own sound and this is where making

our own sound and this is where making mistakes really comes in if you’ve

mistakes really comes in if you’ve

mistakes really comes in if you’ve already decided that making mistakes is

already decided that making mistakes is

already decided that making mistakes is a bad idea

a bad idea

a bad idea then when you play something different

then when you play something different

then when you play something different from what you intended you then just

from what you intended you then just

from what you intended you then just discard it as wrong but if we allow

discard it as wrong but if we allow

discard it as wrong but if we allow ourselves to make mistakes we can play

ourselves to make mistakes we can play

ourselves to make mistakes we can play something we never intended to do and

something we never intended to do and

something we never intended to do and think I didn’t mean to do that but it

think I didn’t mean to do that but it

think I didn’t mean to do that but it sounds pretty good I’m going to do it

sounds pretty good I’m going to do it

sounds pretty good I’m going to do it again and that’s finding your own sound

again and that’s finding your own sound

again and that’s finding your own sound finding your own voice in the music so

finding your own voice in the music so

finding your own voice in the music so let’s try some phrases that we can

let’s try some phrases that we can

let’s try some phrases that we can repeat here Ben so we can sit on that

repeat here Ben so we can sit on that

repeat here Ben so we can sit on that first night

first night

first night [Music]

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[Music] okay now so far we haven’t really done

okay now so far we haven’t really done

okay now so far we haven’t really done much improvising I’ve been playing

much improvising I’ve been playing

much improvising I’ve been playing patterns and everyone’s been copying

patterns and everyone’s been copying

patterns and everyone’s been copying what I’ve played so let’s see what it

what I’ve played so let’s see what it

what I’ve played so let’s see what it sounds like if I play a group of notes a

sounds like if I play a group of notes a

sounds like if I play a group of notes a little musical pattern or riff and get

little musical pattern or riff and get

little musical pattern or riff and get someone in the band to play back to me

someone in the band to play back to me

someone in the band to play back to me the same notes in a different order or

the same notes in a different order or

the same notes in a different order or introduce their own ideas as they think

introduce their own ideas as they think

introduce their own ideas as they think of them so Harry’s really really

of them so Harry’s really really

of them so Harry’s really really trombone here

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[Music] yeah Harry witty on the trombone okay

yeah Harry witty on the trombone okay

yeah Harry witty on the trombone okay now I’d love to see is young musicians

now I’d love to see is young musicians

now I’d love to see is young musicians that learning musical instruments to

that learning musical instruments to

that learning musical instruments to sometimes get rid of this security

sometimes get rid of this security

sometimes get rid of this security blanket of the music in front of them

blanket of the music in front of them

blanket of the music in front of them Chuck that way well put it to one side

Chuck that way well put it to one side

Chuck that way well put it to one side if it’s expensive and learn bits of that

if it’s expensive and learn bits of that

if it’s expensive and learn bits of that music and try and noodle around the net

music and try and noodle around the net

music and try and noodle around the net try some different ideas and you know

try some different ideas and you know

try some different ideas and you know just try and improvise either with those

just try and improvise either with those

just try and improvise either with those ideas or ideas of your own or if you’ve

ideas or ideas of your own or if you’ve

ideas or ideas of your own or if you’ve got scales to do for an exam we’ve all

got scales to do for an exam we’ve all

got scales to do for an exam we’ve all heard this before

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[Music] Della’s ditch halter but we can try and

Della’s ditch halter but we can try and

Della’s ditch halter but we can try and play with those ideas and and we’re kind

play with those ideas and and we’re kind

play with those ideas and and we’re kind of really using those how they would

of really using those how they would

of really using those how they would appear in music you don’t really see us

appear in music you don’t really see us

appear in music you don’t really see us to go like ascending and descending in

to go like ascending and descending in

to go like ascending and descending in music like that were you hear them more

music like that were you hear them more

music like that were you hear them more like this so I’d love to see more people

like this so I’d love to see more people

like this so I’d love to see more people doing that kind of thing and just

doing that kind of thing and just

doing that kind of thing and just experimenting you know music the

experimenting you know music the

experimenting you know music the creative subjects they be creative with

creative subjects they be creative with

creative subjects they be creative with it now what I like to do is show you

it now what I like to do is show you

it now what I like to do is show you what we can do with some of those ideas

what we can do with some of those ideas

what we can do with some of those ideas those riff they’re three and four note

those riff they’re three and four note

those riff they’re three and four note riffs and give them to the band to play

riffs and give them to the band to play

riffs and give them to the band to play I’m going to give each section of the

I’m going to give each section of the

I’m going to give each section of the band a different thing to play and build

band a different thing to play and build

band a different thing to play and build up a whole new piece of music now they

up a whole new piece of music now they

up a whole new piece of music now they have no idea what I’m gonna in fact I

have no idea what I’m gonna in fact I

have no idea what I’m gonna in fact I have no idea what I’m going to do now

have no idea what I’m going to do now

have no idea what I’m going to do now we’re just going to try some things and

we’re just going to try some things and

we’re just going to try some things and see where we end up so come on a musical

see where we end up so come on a musical

see where we end up so come on a musical journey with me

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