this photograph was taken by the Apollo 8 astronauts Christmas Eve 1968 this is
8 astronauts Christmas Eve 1968 this is
8 astronauts Christmas Eve 1968 this is the first time that people had left
the first time that people had left
the first time that people had left Earth orbit and seeing the Earth from
Earth orbit and seeing the Earth from
Earth orbit and seeing the Earth from afar see the earth just hanging there in
afar see the earth just hanging there in
afar see the earth just hanging there in space and as they came around the moon
space and as they came around the moon
space and as they came around the moon the earth rose just like we see the moon
the earth rose just like we see the moon
the earth rose just like we see the moon rise or the Sun rise and I remember
rise or the Sun rise and I remember
rise or the Sun rise and I remember watching it I was 8 years old
watching it I was 8 years old
watching it I was 8 years old vacation Miami Beach were at the hotel
vacation Miami Beach were at the hotel
vacation Miami Beach were at the hotel black-and-white TV and watching the
black-and-white TV and watching the
black-and-white TV and watching the earth rise over the moon this photograph
earth rise over the moon this photograph
earth rise over the moon this photograph is called the Blue Marble it was taken
is called the Blue Marble it was taken
is called the Blue Marble it was taken by the Apollo 17 astronauts in 1972 and
by the Apollo 17 astronauts in 1972 and
by the Apollo 17 astronauts in 1972 and the Sun happened to be placed just right
the Sun happened to be placed just right
the Sun happened to be placed just right when they were between the earth and the
when they were between the earth and the
when they were between the earth and the moon to take a picture of the entire
moon to take a picture of the entire
moon to take a picture of the entire sphere of the earth without any shadow
sphere of the earth without any shadow
sphere of the earth without any shadow this is the first time that humans saw
this is the first time that humans saw
this is the first time that humans saw the entire earth and in 1972 around that
the entire earth and in 1972 around that
the entire earth and in 1972 around that time was also when the environmental
time was also when the environmental
time was also when the environmental movement really got started President
movement really got started President
movement really got started President Nixon started the Environmental
Nixon started the Environmental
Nixon started the Environmental Protection Agency he had organizations
Protection Agency he had organizations
Protection Agency he had organizations like Greenpeace there was environmental
like Greenpeace there was environmental
like Greenpeace there was environmental activism because people could see this
activism because people could see this
activism because people could see this is all we got and we got to take care of
is all we got and we got to take care of
is all we got and we got to take care of it and now when I grew up you know maps
it and now when I grew up you know maps
it and now when I grew up you know maps were just illustrations globes or just
were just illustrations globes or just
were just illustrations globes or just illustrations but after we’ve had these
illustrations but after we’ve had these
illustrations but after we’ve had these photographs and satellites we’re
photographs and satellites we’re
photographs and satellites we’re actually able to create maps that are
actually able to create maps that are
actually able to create maps that are created from many many photographs these
created from many many photographs these
created from many many photographs these are satellite photographs in this this
are satellite photographs in this this
are satellite photographs in this this is not an illustration and satellites by
is not an illustration and satellites by
is not an illustration and satellites by the way are also used with climate
the way are also used with climate
the way are also used with climate change because we can measure the ice
change because we can measure the ice
change because we can measure the ice melt we can measure the temperature in
melt we can measure the temperature in
melt we can measure the temperature in the oceans how much co2 there is so we
the oceans how much co2 there is so we
the oceans how much co2 there is so we use actually space is very important for
use actually space is very important for
use actually space is very important for looking back at Earth so there’s too
looking back at Earth so there’s too
looking back at Earth so there’s too much carbon dioxide too much co2 in the
much carbon dioxide too much co2 in the
much carbon dioxide too much co2 in the ambient air in the air around us and
ambient air in the air around us and
ambient air in the air around us and actually also in the oceans and the
actually also in the oceans and the
actually also in the oceans and the problem with when you burn co2 is where
problem with when you burn co2 is where
problem with when you burn co2 is where you create co2 you can’t see it it’s
you create co2 you can’t see it it’s
you create co2 you can’t see it it’s invisible this camera was developed by a
invisible this camera was developed by a
invisible this camera was developed by a company called FLIR they’re in
company called FLIR they’re in
company called FLIR they’re in Sweden and this this prototype here is
Sweden and this this prototype here is
Sweden and this this prototype here is almost 10 years old they recently
almost 10 years old they recently
almost 10 years old they recently started putting these into production
started putting these into production
started putting these into production and basically it lets you see co2 so
and basically it lets you see co2 so
and basically it lets you see co2 so here you have a car exhaust and then
here you have a car exhaust and then
here you have a car exhaust and then through the camera that’s co2 a car
through the camera that’s co2 a car
through the camera that’s co2 a car exhaust and co2 and so if you want to do
exhaust and co2 and so if you want to do
exhaust and co2 and so if you want to do something about a problem it’s really
something about a problem it’s really
something about a problem it’s really great to be able to visualize it so now
great to be able to visualize it so now
great to be able to visualize it so now we’re actually able to visualize this in
we’re actually able to visualize this in
we’re actually able to visualize this in other words right now you’re seeing this
other words right now you’re seeing this
other words right now you’re seeing this and perhaps for the first time you’re
and perhaps for the first time you’re
and perhaps for the first time you’re seeing what co2 looks like at least if
seeing what co2 looks like at least if
seeing what co2 looks like at least if you look through this camera now I used
you look through this camera now I used
you look through this camera now I used to work for a Danish oil and gas company
to work for a Danish oil and gas company
to work for a Danish oil and gas company they had a carbon and climate department
they had a carbon and climate department
they had a carbon and climate department and it was in 2008-2009 in the lead-up
and it was in 2008-2009 in the lead-up
and it was in 2008-2009 in the lead-up to the much-anticipated and much more
to the much-anticipated and much more
to the much-anticipated and much more disappointing United Nations climate
disappointing United Nations climate
disappointing United Nations climate conference cop15 that was held in
conference cop15 that was held in
conference cop15 that was held in Copenhagen and one of the very first
Copenhagen and one of the very first
Copenhagen and one of the very first things I did was with a colleague we
things I did was with a colleague we
things I did was with a colleague we went to the East Coast and West Coast
went to the East Coast and West Coast
went to the East Coast and West Coast the United States because we want to do
the United States because we want to do
the United States because we want to do examine carbon capture technology and
examine carbon capture technology and
examine carbon capture technology and biofuel technology and that’s where I
biofuel technology and that’s where I
biofuel technology and that’s where I met Klaus Lackner at Columbia University
met Klaus Lackner at Columbia University
met Klaus Lackner at Columbia University and Klaus has been trying to examine how
and Klaus has been trying to examine how
and Klaus has been trying to examine how you can take co2 out of the ambient air
you can take co2 out of the ambient air
you can take co2 out of the ambient air and actually this material here is a
and actually this material here is a
and actually this material here is a resin that when it’s dry it’s capturing
resin that when it’s dry it’s capturing
resin that when it’s dry it’s capturing co2 and when you make it wet if you put
co2 and when you make it wet if you put
co2 and when you make it wet if you put in a glass of water or something it
in a glass of water or something it
in a glass of water or something it releases the co2 it’s one little problem
releases the co2 it’s one little problem
releases the co2 it’s one little problem with it it smells like rotten fish but
with it it smells like rotten fish but
with it it smells like rotten fish but I’ll hand out some samples you can pass
I’ll hand out some samples you can pass
I’ll hand out some samples you can pass it around and please give them back to
it around and please give them back to
it around and please give them back to me afterwards but here you go and you
me afterwards but here you go and you
me afterwards but here you go and you can specimen round Thanks so this
can specimen round Thanks so this
can specimen round Thanks so this actually gives the possibility of taking
actually gives the possibility of taking
actually gives the possibility of taking the co2 out of the air around us in
the co2 out of the air around us in
the co2 out of the air around us in other words the co2 that we’ve already
other words the co2 that we’ve already
other words the co2 that we’ve already released not what’s going to be coming
released not what’s going to be coming
released not what’s going to be coming out of smokestacks later but but
out of smokestacks later but but
out of smokestacks later but but basically what we what we have and this
basically what we what we have and this
basically what we what we have and this is an example of the same material but
is an example of the same material but
is an example of the same material but where they try different configurations
where they try different configurations
where they try different configurations to get as much surface area and this is
to get as much surface area and this is
to get as much surface area and this is sort of the chemical reaction between
sort of the chemical reaction between
sort of the chemical reaction between the dry and wet state of this this shows
the dry and wet state of this this shows
the dry and wet state of this this shows sure showed how it actually works
sure showed how it actually works
sure showed how it actually works and this is Klaus Lackner with his
and this is Klaus Lackner with his
and this is Klaus Lackner with his colleague Alan right and they created
colleague Alan right and they created
colleague Alan right and they created this little greenhouse their plants in
this little greenhouse their plants in
this little greenhouse their plants in there and they took some of this
there and they took some of this
there and they took some of this material and it’s those little round
material and it’s those little round
material and it’s those little round circles sort of in the back in the
circles sort of in the back in the
circles sort of in the back in the middle there and they were laden with
middle there and they were laden with
middle there and they were laden with co2 because they’d just been standing
co2 because they’d just been standing
co2 because they’d just been standing out in the lab and they put them in
out in the lab and they put them in
out in the lab and they put them in there and actually in this instance they
there and actually in this instance they
there and actually in this instance they didn’t even put them in water first
didn’t even put them in water first
didn’t even put them in water first because the air was quite damp in the
because the air was quite damp in the
because the air was quite damp in the greenhouse with the plants and the water
greenhouse with the plants and the water
greenhouse with the plants and the water that was already there and they hooked
that was already there and they hooked
that was already there and they hooked it up to a computer and the red line you
it up to a computer and the red line you
it up to a computer and the red line you can see down there it was about a 360
can see down there it was about a 360
can see down there it was about a 360 parts per million that’s how you sort of
parts per million that’s how you sort of
parts per million that’s how you sort of measure co2 in the air and that’s was
measure co2 in the air and that’s was
measure co2 in the air and that’s was about what it was in in the lab and
about what it was in in the lab and
about what it was in in the lab and after half an hour it had risen to about
after half an hour it had risen to about
after half an hour it had risen to about five hundred and twenty parts per
five hundred and twenty parts per
five hundred and twenty parts per million in other words you can actually
million in other words you can actually
million in other words you can actually see the co2 rising and a little bit
see the co2 rising and a little bit
see the co2 rising and a little bit later it started going down because
later it started going down because
later it started going down because plants they like co2 they started
plants they like co2 they started
plants they like co2 they started sucking up the co2 so this this works
sucking up the co2 so this this works
sucking up the co2 so this this works now in twenty twelve I’m part of the
now in twenty twelve I’m part of the
now in twenty twelve I’m part of the climate reality project so I’m trained
climate reality project so I’m trained
climate reality project so I’m trained by Al Gore along with thousands of other
by Al Gore along with thousands of other
by Al Gore along with thousands of other people around the world to give these
people around the world to give these
people around the world to give these climate presentations and the
climate presentations and the
climate presentations and the association of Swedish engineers asked
association of Swedish engineers asked
association of Swedish engineers asked if I would give a presentation to about
if I would give a presentation to about
if I would give a presentation to about seventy-five engineers and others in
seventy-five engineers and others in
seventy-five engineers and others in Stockholm was of the Hilton in Stockholm
Stockholm was of the Hilton in Stockholm
Stockholm was of the Hilton in Stockholm August of 2012 and I remember telling
August of 2012 and I remember telling
August of 2012 and I remember telling them that the ice is melting in green
them that the ice is melting in green
them that the ice is melting in green and the ice is melting in the Antarctic
and the ice is melting in the Antarctic
and the ice is melting in the Antarctic and sea level is rising and if you just
and sea level is rising and if you just
and sea level is rising and if you just have a very little bit amount of sea
have a very little bit amount of sea
have a very little bit amount of sea level rise if you have a storm that’s
level rise if you have a storm that’s
level rise if you have a storm that’s pushing the water you’ll have much much
pushing the water you’ll have much much
pushing the water you’ll have much much more flooding when it finally reaches
more flooding when it finally reaches
more flooding when it finally reaches land I remember telling them that cities
land I remember telling them that cities
land I remember telling them that cities like New York or London will get flooded
like New York or London will get flooded
like New York or London will get flooded not this year but in ten years or twenty
not this year but in ten years or twenty
not this year but in ten years or twenty years or thirty years
years or thirty years
years or thirty years I also remember telling them that the
I also remember telling them that the
I also remember telling them that the droughts that had been taking place in
droughts that had been taking place in
droughts that had been taking place in Texas for the past the previous three
Texas for the past the previous three
Texas for the past the previous three years would within four years reach the
years would within four years reach the
years would within four years reach the Midwest of the United States but
Midwest of the United States but
Midwest of the United States but actually at that point only taken four
actually at that point only taken four
actually at that point only taken four months so in other words that was a
months so in other words that was a
months so in other words that was a climate prediction by scientists where
climate prediction by scientists where
climate prediction by scientists where it happened a bit faster so this was
it happened a bit faster so this was
it happened a bit faster so this was August of 2012 and then I was on
August of 2012 and then I was on
August of 2012 and then I was on vacation in London in the end of October
vacation in London in the end of October
vacation in London in the end of October 2012 two months later and I remember
2012 two months later and I remember
2012 two months later and I remember watching the TV watching CNN and
watching the TV watching CNN and
watching the TV watching CNN and watching the reporter at the battery at
watching the reporter at the battery at
watching the reporter at the battery at the southern tip of Manhattan
the southern tip of Manhattan
the southern tip of Manhattan water coming up to her knees it was
water coming up to her knees it was
water coming up to her knees it was superstorm sandy and cars were floating
superstorm sandy and cars were floating
superstorm sandy and cars were floating in the streets of Manhattan who would
in the streets of Manhattan who would
in the streets of Manhattan who would have thought and that was just two
have thought and that was just two
have thought and that was just two months later when I made my statement to
months later when I made my statement to
months later when I made my statement to those engineers in Stockholm so
those engineers in Stockholm so
those engineers in Stockholm so basically I started thinking you know we
basically I started thinking you know we
basically I started thinking you know we talked about reducing our emissions you
talked about reducing our emissions you
talked about reducing our emissions you know driving the cars less taking the
know driving the cars less taking the
know driving the cars less taking the train getting away from oil using wind
train getting away from oil using wind
train getting away from oil using wind turbines and solar panels that’s all for
turbines and solar panels that’s all for
turbines and solar panels that’s all for our future emissions you know we’re
our future emissions you know we’re
our future emissions you know we’re using it now but it’ll be cutting our
using it now but it’ll be cutting our
using it now but it’ll be cutting our future emissions but all the problems
future emissions but all the problems
future emissions but all the problems that we’re seeing today they’re caused
that we’re seeing today they’re caused
that we’re seeing today they’re caused by what’s already up there and therefore
by what’s already up there and therefore
by what’s already up there and therefore we have to start taking it out of the
we have to start taking it out of the
we have to start taking it out of the atmosphere taken out of the ambient air
atmosphere taken out of the ambient air
atmosphere taken out of the ambient air taking it out of the air around us so I
taking it out of the air around us so I
taking it out of the air around us so I went back to Klaus Lackner I said Klaus
went back to Klaus Lackner I said Klaus
went back to Klaus Lackner I said Klaus you should really build a prototype of
you should really build a prototype of
you should really build a prototype of this and put this in production and
this and put this in production and
this and put this in production and build many many of these and he said to
build many many of these and he said to
build many many of these and he said to me well you know David people don’t like
me well you know David people don’t like
me well you know David people don’t like geoengineering now geoengineering is
geoengineering now geoengineering is
geoengineering now geoengineering is when you start doing things for instance
when you start doing things for instance
when you start doing things for instance if you take iron iron ore and you put it
if you take iron iron ore and you put it
if you take iron iron ore and you put it into the ocean you can make the oceans
into the ocean you can make the oceans
into the ocean you can make the oceans less acidic or if you take particles and
less acidic or if you take particles and
less acidic or if you take particles and put them up into the air you can start
put them up into the air you can start
put them up into the air you can start blocking the sunlight and cool down the
blocking the sunlight and cool down the
blocking the sunlight and cool down the planet but I said to him Klaus
planet but I said to him Klaus
planet but I said to him Klaus we’ve been geoengineering the planet
we’ve been geoengineering the planet
we’ve been geoengineering the planet since 1750 when we started digging up
since 1750 when we started digging up
since 1750 when we started digging up coal and burning it and then later on
coal and burning it and then later on
coal and burning it and then later on oil and gas and burning it and heating
oil and gas and burning it and heating
oil and gas and burning it and heating up the planet that’s geoengineering this
up the planet that’s geoengineering this
up the planet that’s geoengineering this is reverse geoengineering this is to
is reverse geoengineering this is to
is reverse geoengineering this is to solve that problem so Klaus is now matic
solve that problem so Klaus is now matic
solve that problem so Klaus is now matic he’s on Columbia University a couple
he’s on Columbia University a couple
he’s on Columbia University a couple years ago he went over to Arizona State
years ago he went over to Arizona State
years ago he went over to Arizona State University and set up a whole department
University and set up a whole department
University and set up a whole department for to this to investigate this this is
for to this to investigate this this is
for to this to investigate this this is one of the prototypes for a specific
one of the prototypes for a specific
one of the prototypes for a specific application and I’m thinking you know if
application and I’m thinking you know if
application and I’m thinking you know if you’re going to want to do this at large
you’re going to want to do this at large
you’re going to want to do this at large scale because we’re talking about if
scale because we’re talking about if
scale because we’re talking about if each unit of these can capture one ton
each unit of these can capture one ton
each unit of these can capture one ton of co2 a day you’d need 150 million
of co2 a day you’d need 150 million
of co2 a day you’d need 150 million units to really make a dent if we figure
units to really make a dent if we figure
units to really make a dent if we figure that you can capture 60% of co2 in the
that you can capture 60% of co2 in the
that you can capture 60% of co2 in the future from smokestacks like factories
future from smokestacks like factories
future from smokestacks like factories and power plants there’ll be another 40%
and power plants there’ll be another 40%
and power plants there’ll be another 40% from lawnmowers and air
from lawnmowers and air
from lawnmowers and air planes that will still have to be
planes that will still have to be
planes that will still have to be captured by this type of technology and
captured by this type of technology and
captured by this type of technology and on top of that we want to remove a lot
on top of that we want to remove a lot
on top of that we want to remove a lot of the legacy co2 the co2 that’s already
of the legacy co2 the co2 that’s already
of the legacy co2 the co2 that’s already up there that we’ve already emitted
up there that we’ve already emitted
up there that we’ve already emitted that’s causing the problems that we have
that’s causing the problems that we have
that’s causing the problems that we have today and I started thinking about
today and I started thinking about
today and I started thinking about shipping containers because we have an
shipping containers because we have an
shipping containers because we have an entire infrastructure around the world
entire infrastructure around the world
entire infrastructure around the world on with shipping containers you know you
on with shipping containers you know you
on with shipping containers you know you can move them around you could stack
can move them around you could stack
can move them around you could stack them and if you sort of took this
them and if you sort of took this
them and if you sort of took this technology open up the sides put this
technology open up the sides put this
technology open up the sides put this material in there and some carousels
material in there and some carousels
material in there and some carousels capture a panel at a time make it moist
capture a panel at a time make it moist
capture a panel at a time make it moist capture the co2 and let it spin around
capture the co2 and let it spin around
capture the co2 and let it spin around then this is one way to do it this might
then this is one way to do it this might
then this is one way to do it this might be a practical way to do it now a figure
be a practical way to do it now a figure
be a practical way to do it now a figure you’re not going to build 150 million in
you’re not going to build 150 million in
you’re not going to build 150 million in one year but you could build 15 million
one year but you could build 15 million
one year but you could build 15 million in one year and after ten years you’d
in one year and after ten years you’d
in one year and after ten years you’d have a hundred and fifty million and
have a hundred and fifty million and
have a hundred and fifty million and then maybe you could start switching out
then maybe you could start switching out
then maybe you could start switching out the old models with the newer ones we
the old models with the newer ones we
the old models with the newer ones we build about 80 million cars passenger
build about 80 million cars passenger
build about 80 million cars passenger vehicles a year in the United States the
vehicles a year in the United States the
vehicles a year in the United States the EU and China and there are all different
EU and China and there are all different
EU and China and there are all different models and they have a lot of Technology
models and they have a lot of Technology
models and they have a lot of Technology crammed in and this is basically
crammed in and this is basically
crammed in and this is basically building 15 million units using sort of
building 15 million units using sort of
building 15 million units using sort of the same template just using the same
the same template just using the same
the same template just using the same technology across the board but the
technology across the board but the
technology across the board but the thing is if you did this because the
thing is if you did this because the
thing is if you did this because the what are you going to do you know who’s
what are you going to do you know who’s
what are you going to do you know who’s going to pay for it basically and that’s
going to pay for it basically and that’s
going to pay for it basically and that’s part of the problem because we have so
part of the problem because we have so
part of the problem because we have so off to think about what to do with the
off to think about what to do with the
off to think about what to do with the co2 some people talk about pumping it
co2 some people talk about pumping it
co2 some people talk about pumping it underground in saline aquifers some deep
underground in saline aquifers some deep
underground in saline aquifers some deep underwater lakes but I’m not quite sure
underwater lakes but I’m not quite sure
underwater lakes but I’m not quite sure that’s a good idea
that’s a good idea
that’s a good idea because we could see from fracking them
because we could see from fracking them
because we could see from fracking them if you put a lot of pressure underground
if you put a lot of pressure underground
if you put a lot of pressure underground and cause earthquakes and there could be
and cause earthquakes and there could be
and cause earthquakes and there could be fractures as well where the co2 comes
fractures as well where the co2 comes
fractures as well where the co2 comes out of the ground again but you could
out of the ground again but you could
out of the ground again but you could mineralize the co2 turn it into a
mineralize the co2 turn it into a
mineralize the co2 turn it into a carbonate basically turn the co2 into a
carbonate basically turn the co2 into a
carbonate basically turn the co2 into a stone now that can all be done in the
stone now that can all be done in the
stone now that can all be done in the lab but it takes a lot of energy so if
lab but it takes a lot of energy so if
lab but it takes a lot of energy so if we can figure out a way in energy
we can figure out a way in energy
we can figure out a way in energy efficient way to capture the co2 what we
efficient way to capture the co2 what we
efficient way to capture the co2 what we captured here and then to turn into a
captured here and then to turn into a
captured here and then to turn into a mineral to turn it to a stone then it’s
mineral to turn it to a stone then it’s
mineral to turn it to a stone then it’s out of the system then it becomes sort
out of the system then it becomes sort
out of the system then it becomes sort of a carbon negative situation
of a carbon negative situation
of a carbon negative situation so we could build these units here but
so we could build these units here but
so we could build these units here but you don’t start a company to build them
you don’t start a company to build them
you don’t start a company to build them because basically the co2 is worthless
because basically the co2 is worthless
because basically the co2 is worthless so companies or venture capitalists and
so companies or venture capitalists and
so companies or venture capitalists and others are not really going to invest in
others are not really going to invest in
others are not really going to invest in this because what are you gonna do with
this because what are you gonna do with
this because what are you gonna do with that co2 and if we’re if you say that
that co2 and if we’re if you say that
that co2 and if we’re if you say that each unit costs twenty-five thousand
each unit costs twenty-five thousand
each unit costs twenty-five thousand dollars apiece
dollars apiece
dollars apiece you’re talking about you know somewhere
you’re talking about you know somewhere
you’re talking about you know somewhere close to half a trillion dollars five
close to half a trillion dollars five
close to half a trillion dollars five hundred billion dollars a year that you
hundred billion dollars a year that you
hundred billion dollars a year that you don’t have to spend on this and that
don’t have to spend on this and that
don’t have to spend on this and that could be government’s doing that because
could be government’s doing that because
could be government’s doing that because obviously if you stop the effects of
obviously if you stop the effects of
obviously if you stop the effects of climate change and you don’t have to
climate change and you don’t have to
climate change and you don’t have to move cities like New York City inland or
move cities like New York City inland or
move cities like New York City inland or something like that in the future that’s
something like that in the future that’s
something like that in the future that’s going to cost a lot more than five
going to cost a lot more than five
going to cost a lot more than five hundred billion dollars by the way you
hundred billion dollars by the way you
hundred billion dollars by the way you could actually end up creating a lot of
could actually end up creating a lot of
could actually end up creating a lot of jobs because if the EU is paying for
jobs because if the EU is paying for
jobs because if the EU is paying for this what you could say is we want to
this what you could say is we want to
this what you could say is we want to build this at a shipyard in Greece
build this at a shipyard in Greece
build this at a shipyard in Greece because we need to create jobs in Greece
because we need to create jobs in Greece
because we need to create jobs in Greece because the economy in Greece is really
because the economy in Greece is really
because the economy in Greece is really bad it’s a drag on the European economy
bad it’s a drag on the European economy
bad it’s a drag on the European economy it’s a drag on the world economy and you
it’s a drag on the world economy and you
it’s a drag on the world economy and you can sort of decide we’re going to find a
can sort of decide we’re going to find a
can sort of decide we’re going to find a shipyard there and we can create 10,000
shipyard there and we can create 10,000
shipyard there and we can create 10,000 or 100,000 jobs you can place jobs in
or 100,000 jobs you can place jobs in
or 100,000 jobs you can place jobs in Italy or Portugal or Spain places where
Italy or Portugal or Spain places where
Italy or Portugal or Spain places where you can actually improve the economy and
you can actually improve the economy and
you can actually improve the economy and we’re talking about like three million
we’re talking about like three million
we’re talking about like three million jobs here that you’d be permanent jobs
jobs here that you’d be permanent jobs
jobs here that you’d be permanent jobs the United States could do it in places
the United States could do it in places
the United States could do it in places like Detroit or Flint where they have
like Detroit or Flint where they have
like Detroit or Flint where they have car factories and they have a lot of
car factories and they have a lot of
car factories and they have a lot of unemployed workers and it may not be
unemployed workers and it may not be
unemployed workers and it may not be Washington paying for it it could be the
Washington paying for it it could be the
Washington paying for it it could be the state of Michigan because I think these
state of Michigan because I think these
state of Michigan because I think these days Washington is not going to pay for
days Washington is not going to pay for
days Washington is not going to pay for much and it can be places like West
much and it can be places like West
much and it can be places like West Virginia or Kentucky where you have coal
Virginia or Kentucky where you have coal
Virginia or Kentucky where you have coal miners and you put them to work building
miners and you put them to work building
miners and you put them to work building this instead of digging up coal so
this instead of digging up coal so
this instead of digging up coal so there’s a whole economic aspect to this
there’s a whole economic aspect to this
there’s a whole economic aspect to this not just saving the world but there’s a
not just saving the world but there’s a
not just saving the world but there’s a whole economic aspect another thing
whole economic aspect another thing
whole economic aspect another thing about this is is that if you start
about this is is that if you start
about this is is that if you start taking co2 out of the air you reduce the
taking co2 out of the air you reduce the
taking co2 out of the air you reduce the relative pressure of co2 on the oceans
relative pressure of co2 on the oceans
relative pressure of co2 on the oceans because the oceans have too much co2 the
because the oceans have too much co2 the
because the oceans have too much co2 the oceans are acidic and marine life is
oceans are acidic and marine life is
oceans are acidic and marine life is suffering as a result so if you take it
suffering as a result so if you take it
suffering as a result so if you take it out of the air the oceans will start
out of the air the oceans will start
out of the air the oceans will start releasing their excess co2 into the air
releasing their excess co2 into the air
releasing their excess co2 into the air which will have to take out so actually
which will have to take out so actually
which will have to take out so actually you might first see really a reduction
you might first see really a reduction
you might first see really a reduction of co2 in the oceans
of co2 in the oceans
of co2 in the oceans before you finally see the reduction in
before you finally see the reduction in
before you finally see the reduction in in the air we’re at about 400 parts per
in the air we’re at about 400 parts per
in the air we’re at about 400 parts per million co2 right now we have to bring
million co2 right now we have to bring
million co2 right now we have to bring it down to 350 parts per million that’s
it down to 350 parts per million that’s
it down to 350 parts per million that’s sort of the technical part of it but
sort of the technical part of it but
sort of the technical part of it but basically we have to get to something
basically we have to get to something
basically we have to get to something lower otherwise we’re going to start
lower otherwise we’re going to start
lower otherwise we’re going to start seeing what we’re already seeing weird
seeing what we’re already seeing weird
seeing what we’re already seeing weird weather patterns and things but storms
weather patterns and things but storms
weather patterns and things but storms and floods and droughts and cities that
and floods and droughts and cities that
and floods and droughts and cities that get that get flooded now there are other
get that get flooded now there are other
get that get flooded now there are other companies working on this there’s carbon
companies working on this there’s carbon
companies working on this there’s carbon engineering in Canada there’s global
engineering in Canada there’s global
engineering in Canada there’s global thermostat in the u.s. there’s climb
thermostat in the u.s. there’s climb
thermostat in the u.s. there’s climb works in Switzerland now they’re
works in Switzerland now they’re
works in Switzerland now they’re technologies also use a lot more energy
technologies also use a lot more energy
technologies also use a lot more energy this is a very passive technology
this is a very passive technology
this is a very passive technology however some of the processes are very
however some of the processes are very
however some of the processes are very efficient so could end up being that we
efficient so could end up being that we
efficient so could end up being that we figure out a way to do this kind of
figure out a way to do this kind of
figure out a way to do this kind of combining some of the technologies to
combining some of the technologies to
combining some of the technologies to get the best solution
get the best solution
get the best solution now one thing you could do before we
now one thing you could do before we
now one thing you could do before we figure out about how to efficiently
figure out about how to efficiently
figure out about how to efficiently mineralize or turn into stone the co2 is
mineralize or turn into stone the co2 is
mineralize or turn into stone the co2 is that you could use it for greenhouses
that you could use it for greenhouses
that you could use it for greenhouses this photo is actually taken from a
this photo is actually taken from a
this photo is actually taken from a greenhouse right outside of Odense and
greenhouse right outside of Odense and
greenhouse right outside of Odense and some plants and some vegetables like
some plants and some vegetables like
some plants and some vegetables like more co2 they grow faster and I have a
more co2 they grow faster and I have a
more co2 they grow faster and I have a feeling that we’re going to have to be
feeling that we’re going to have to be
feeling that we’re going to have to be using a lot more greenhouses because we
using a lot more greenhouses because we
using a lot more greenhouses because we have a lot of drought around the world
have a lot of drought around the world
have a lot of drought around the world and we have to start growing food so in
and we have to start growing food so in
and we have to start growing food so in other words we have to be careful about
other words we have to be careful about
other words we have to be careful about moisture and things like that so this
moisture and things like that so this
moisture and things like that so this could be one of the applications it’s a
could be one of the applications it’s a
could be one of the applications it’s a carbon-neutral application because you
carbon-neutral application because you
carbon-neutral application because you take the co2 out of the air you put it
take the co2 out of the air you put it
take the co2 out of the air you put it in the greenhouse and goes back into the
in the greenhouse and goes back into the
in the greenhouse and goes back into the air but at least you’re not creating the
air but at least you’re not creating the
air but at least you’re not creating the co2 by taking fossil fuel and adding to
co2 by taking fossil fuel and adding to
co2 by taking fossil fuel and adding to the system so basically if we have a
the system so basically if we have a
the system so basically if we have a sort of understanding of the real
sort of understanding of the real
sort of understanding of the real problem that it’s not just reducing our
problem that it’s not just reducing our
problem that it’s not just reducing our future emissions but it’s also that we
future emissions but it’s also that we
future emissions but it’s also that we absolutely have to remove co2 from the
absolutely have to remove co2 from the
absolutely have to remove co2 from the ambient air and also the oceans in other
ambient air and also the oceans in other
ambient air and also the oceans in other in order to solve the climate crisis
in order to solve the climate crisis
in order to solve the climate crisis that’s that’s one thing that we have to
that’s that’s one thing that we have to
that’s that’s one thing that we have to understand the other thing we have to
understand the other thing we have to
understand the other thing we have to understand is the economics about it and
understand is the economics about it and
understand is the economics about it and that may be spending hundreds of
that may be spending hundreds of
that may be spending hundreds of billions of dollars ends up being
billions of dollars ends up being
billions of dollars ends up being cheaper certainly in terms of the damage
cheaper certainly in terms of the damage
cheaper certainly in terms of the damage coming from climate change but also that
coming from climate change but also that
coming from climate change but also that we can create some economic
we can create some economic
we can create some economic opportunities and and help some areas
opportunities and and help some areas
opportunities and and help some areas regions that need that help you know
regions that need that help you know
regions that need that help you know going to the moon is really hard my dad
going to the moon is really hard my dad
going to the moon is really hard my dad was a rocket engineer in the in the
was a rocket engineer in the in the
was a rocket engineer in the in the early 60s it
early 60s it
early 60s it is really really difficult this can all
is really really difficult this can all
is really really difficult this can all be done in the lab you just have to sort
be done in the lab you just have to sort
be done in the lab you just have to sort of focus of putting it into production
of focus of putting it into production
of focus of putting it into production and looking at the economic aspects of
and looking at the economic aspects of
and looking at the economic aspects of it and getting governments to agree that
it and getting governments to agree that
it and getting governments to agree that this is the way to go thank you
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