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Small island, big picture: connecting the dots in marine conservation | Jenny House | TEDxDili


I started diving 10 years ago and it was

I started diving 10 years ago and it was an experience which sparked a passion

an experience which sparked a passion

an experience which sparked a passion for the underwater world however it was

for the underwater world however it was

for the underwater world however it was only when I started talking to local

only when I started talking to local

only when I started talking to local community members many years later that

community members many years later that

community members many years later that I began to understand that connectivity

I began to understand that connectivity

I began to understand that connectivity between the ocean and the land or the

between the ocean and the land or the

between the ocean and the land or the people whether it was learning

people whether it was learning

people whether it was learning traditional octopus fishing techniques

traditional octopus fishing techniques

traditional octopus fishing techniques or surveying fish caches or interviewing

or surveying fish caches or interviewing

or surveying fish caches or interviewing community members about their

community members about their

community members about their experiences my interest in the ocean

experiences my interest in the ocean

experiences my interest in the ocean started to be joined by a fascination

started to be joined by a fascination

started to be joined by a fascination with that intersection between the

with that intersection between the

with that intersection between the environment and the people who rely on

environment and the people who rely on

environment and the people who rely on it for the ocean the land and the people

it for the ocean the land and the people

it for the ocean the land and the people are intimately connected and here on a

are intimately connected and here on a

are intimately connected and here on a saguaro is no different I came here to

saguaro is no different I came here to

saguaro is no different I came here to work in January this year and in my role

work in January this year and in my role

work in January this year and in my role as an educator scientist and

as an educator scientist and

as an educator scientist and conservationist my goal is to connect

conservationist my goal is to connect

conservationist my goal is to connect the dots between these interlinking

the dots between these interlinking

the dots between these interlinking issues as conservationists we’re often

issues as conservationists we’re often

issues as conservationists we’re often motivated to solve a particular

motivated to solve a particular

motivated to solve a particular environmental problem however I believe

environmental problem however I believe

environmental problem however I believe it’s only when we take a step back and

it’s only when we take a step back and

it’s only when we take a step back and take a more holistic approach that we

take a more holistic approach that we

take a more holistic approach that we can begin to succeed when I first came

can begin to succeed when I first came

can begin to succeed when I first came to Arturo I was struck by the natural

to Arturo I was struck by the natural

to Arturo I was struck by the natural beauty that surrounded me the diving is

beauty that surrounded me the diving is

beauty that surrounded me the diving is stunning and with some of the most

stunning and with some of the most

stunning and with some of the most biodiverse waters in the world that’s no

biodiverse waters in the world that’s no

biodiverse waters in the world that’s no surprise

surprise

surprise and that feeling has never left me as

and that feeling has never left me as

and that feeling has never left me as the seasons change I’m constantly

the seasons change I’m constantly

the seasons change I’m constantly surrounded by new beauty and I think my

surrounded by new beauty and I think my

surrounded by new beauty and I think my favorite so far has to have been the

favorite so far has to have been the

favorite so far has to have been the arrival of whale season but as I began

arrival of whale season but as I began

arrival of whale season but as I began to familiarize myself with our local

to familiarize myself with our local

to familiarize myself with our local reefs I couldn’t help but notice the

reefs I couldn’t help but notice the

reefs I couldn’t help but notice the lack of big fish on many reefs groupers

lack of big fish on many reefs groupers

lack of big fish on many reefs groupers and other large predators are few and

and other large predators are few and

and other large predators are few and far between

far between

far between these predators play an important role

these predators play an important role

these predators play an important role in regulating the ecosystem and fish

in regulating the ecosystem and fish

in regulating the ecosystem and fish which grow to a bigger size before being

which grow to a bigger size before being

which grow to a bigger size before being caught can produce far more offspring

caught can produce far more offspring

caught can produce far more offspring but as overfishing removes this top-end

but as overfishing removes this top-end

but as overfishing removes this top-end from the environment the impact on the

from the environment the impact on the

from the environment the impact on the ecosystem and the fish populations as a

ecosystem and the fish populations as a

ecosystem and the fish populations as a whole becomes greater which causes

whole becomes greater which causes

whole becomes greater which causes a decline in the fish stocks even

a decline in the fish stocks even

a decline in the fish stocks even further and unfortunately my impressions

further and unfortunately my impressions

further and unfortunately my impressions are consistent with Studies on the

are consistent with Studies on the

are consistent with Studies on the subject and the impressions of the local

subject and the impressions of the local

subject and the impressions of the local community as one person I spoke to said

community as one person I spoke to said

community as one person I spoke to said we don’t catch as many fish as before in

we don’t catch as many fish as before in

we don’t catch as many fish as before in the past you were lucky if you could eat

the past you were lucky if you could eat

the past you were lucky if you could eat all the fish you caught that day so from

all the fish you caught that day so from

all the fish you caught that day so from a conservation perspective this

a conservation perspective this

a conservation perspective this particular dot should be a relatively

particular dot should be a relatively

particular dot should be a relatively easy fix

easy fix

easy fix stop fishing the big fish but the

stop fishing the big fish but the

stop fishing the big fish but the reality is very very different as people

reality is very very different as people

reality is very very different as people here rely on fishing to put food on the

here rely on fishing to put food on the

here rely on fishing to put food on the table and provide for their children as

table and provide for their children as

table and provide for their children as my friend estêvão said the sea is our

my friend estêvão said the sea is our

my friend estêvão said the sea is our office we need to go to work every day

office we need to go to work every day

office we need to go to work every day and here on a Thoreau fish is a really

and here on a Thoreau fish is a really

and here on a Thoreau fish is a really important source of protein so a decline

important source of protein so a decline

important source of protein so a decline in fish stocks can have a direct

in fish stocks can have a direct

in fish stocks can have a direct influence on nutrition and in the face

influence on nutrition and in the face

influence on nutrition and in the face of concerns over food security

of concerns over food security

of concerns over food security specifically fish stocks it’s easy to

specifically fish stocks it’s easy to

specifically fish stocks it’s easy to get tunnel vision and think that the

get tunnel vision and think that the

get tunnel vision and think that the best way to solve this issue is to focus

best way to solve this issue is to focus

best way to solve this issue is to focus on the fish however in my experience

on the fish however in my experience

on the fish however in my experience top-down approaches like this which

top-down approaches like this which

top-down approaches like this which focus on one aspect of a complicated

focus on one aspect of a complicated

focus on one aspect of a complicated problem are doomed to failure it’s only

problem are doomed to failure it’s only

problem are doomed to failure it’s only when we take a bigger picture approach

when we take a bigger picture approach

when we take a bigger picture approach that we can begin to see results the

that we can begin to see results the

that we can begin to see results the thing that I have come to appreciate

thing that I have come to appreciate

thing that I have come to appreciate more more than anything else in my time

more more than anything else in my time

more more than anything else in my time here on a thorough row is the strong

here on a thorough row is the strong

here on a thorough row is the strong sense of community and family which

sense of community and family which

sense of community and family which binds everything together and I really

binds everything together and I really

binds everything together and I really believe it’s only when we take these

believe it’s only when we take these

believe it’s only when we take these values into consideration that we can

values into consideration that we can

values into consideration that we can begin to see tangible results from

begin to see tangible results from

begin to see tangible results from conservation and the growing number of

conservation and the growing number of

conservation and the growing number of Terrebonne do around the island are a

Terrebonne do around the island are a

Terrebonne do around the island are a sign of this trend in this particular

sign of this trend in this particular

sign of this trend in this particular context Terrebonne do are areas which

context Terrebonne do are areas which

context Terrebonne do are areas which have been designated as locally managed

have been designated as locally managed

have been designated as locally managed marine areas according to customary law

marine areas according to customary law

marine areas according to customary law as a friend Necker said having a

as a friend Necker said having a

as a friend Necker said having a Terrebonne do is important because I

Terrebonne do is important because I

Terrebonne do is important because I want my children and grandchildren to

want my children and grandchildren to

want my children and grandchildren to always have fish like I can see in the

always have fish like I can see in the

always have fish like I can see in the sea now I don’t want it to be lost in

sea now I don’t want it to be lost in

sea now I don’t want it to be lost in the future these laws are driven by the

the future these laws are driven by the

the future these laws are driven by the community rather than centralized

community rather than centralized

community rather than centralized government and other products of

government and other products of

government and other products of hundreds of years of tradition

hundreds of years of tradition

hundreds of years of tradition Terrebonne do our laws which are deeply

Terrebonne do our laws which are deeply

Terrebonne do our laws which are deeply rooted in family and community ties and

rooted in family and community ties and

rooted in family and community ties and they’re often taken in more serious

they’re often taken in more serious

they’re often taken in more serious please an official law disrupted during

please an official law disrupted during

please an official law disrupted during the conflict

the conflict

the conflict they’re now enjoying a resurgence and

they’re now enjoying a resurgence and

they’re now enjoying a resurgence and are increasingly being used for marine

are increasingly being used for marine

are increasingly being used for marine management they work because they are

management they work because they are

management they work because they are deeply rooted in the community’s values

deeply rooted in the community’s values

deeply rooted in the community’s values and they make sure everyone’s voice is

and they make sure everyone’s voice is

and they make sure everyone’s voice is heard however they require hard work

heard however they require hard work

heard however they require hard work dedication and sacrifice from the

dedication and sacrifice from the

dedication and sacrifice from the community in the short term in the words

community in the short term in the words

community in the short term in the words of Johnny he said we all want our

of Johnny he said we all want our

of Johnny he said we all want our boundary here but based on the culture

boundary here but based on the culture

boundary here but based on the culture from our ancestors we believe that it

from our ancestors we believe that it

from our ancestors we believe that it will be stronger if we do it in the

will be stronger if we do it in the

will be stronger if we do it in the proper way

proper way

proper way these fishermen are looking to the

these fishermen are looking to the

these fishermen are looking to the future as more and more Terrebonne do

future as more and more Terrebonne do

future as more and more Terrebonne do are added to the network of protected

are added to the network of protected

are added to the network of protected areas which surround this island as they

areas which surround this island as they

areas which surround this island as they set aside their fishing areas they’re

set aside their fishing areas they’re

set aside their fishing areas they’re looking for other options of how to

looking for other options of how to

looking for other options of how to provide for their children and that’s

provide for their children and that’s

provide for their children and that’s where alternative livelihoods come in

where alternative livelihoods come in

where alternative livelihoods come in the homestay Association here in Beloit

the homestay Association here in Beloit

the homestay Association here in Beloit is a great example eight families have

is a great example eight families have

is a great example eight families have opened their their homes to

opened their their homes to

opened their their homes to international volunteers and staff

international volunteers and staff

international volunteers and staff working with blue ventures this is an a

working with blue ventures this is an a

working with blue ventures this is an a business model they’d never used before

business model they’d never used before

business model they’d never used before and less than a year after they started

and less than a year after they started

and less than a year after they started the initiative they’re already reaping

the initiative they’re already reaping

the initiative they’re already reaping the rewards one member of the

the rewards one member of the

the rewards one member of the Association said that the main benefit

Association said that the main benefit

Association said that the main benefit of the homestay is that it allows us to

of the homestay is that it allows us to

of the homestay is that it allows us to take care of our family and all the

take care of our family and all the

take care of our family and all the income stays in the community I’ve been

income stays in the community I’ve been

income stays in the community I’ve been lucky enough to live with one such

lucky enough to live with one such

lucky enough to live with one such family during the last few months

family during the last few months

family during the last few months LOI through them I’ve been able to learn

LOI through them I’ve been able to learn

LOI through them I’ve been able to learn the Teton language settle into village

the Teton language settle into village

the Teton language settle into village life and find my feet in a place far

life and find my feet in a place far

life and find my feet in a place far away from home my tea Marie’s family

away from home my tea Marie’s family

away from home my tea Marie’s family have provided me with the amazing

have provided me with the amazing

have provided me with the amazing hospitality that’s one of this community

hospitality that’s one of this community

hospitality that’s one of this community strength and home stays are an excellent

strength and home stays are an excellent

strength and home stays are an excellent opportunity to create cultural exchange

opportunity to create cultural exchange

opportunity to create cultural exchange which benefits both the hosts and the

which benefits both the hosts and the

which benefits both the hosts and the guests one of the guests said that it

guests one of the guests said that it

guests one of the guests said that it was an eye-opening immersive experience

was an eye-opening immersive experience

was an eye-opening immersive experience that will be one of the main things he

that will be one of the main things he

that will be one of the main things he looks back on and along with the

looks back on and along with the

looks back on and along with the donations that snorkelers and divers

donations that snorkelers and divers

donations that snorkelers and divers make to the terre bandeau fund this

make to the terre bandeau fund this

make to the terre bandeau fund this homestay program is contributing to a

homestay program is contributing to a

homestay program is contributing to a growing nature based ecotourism industry

growing nature based ecotourism industry

growing nature based ecotourism industry on after laura research from Charles

on after laura research from Charles

on after laura research from Charles Darwin University shows that the

Darwin University shows that the

Darwin University shows that the communities of Arthur Oro strongly

communities of Arthur Oro strongly

communities of Arthur Oro strongly support the development

support the development

support the development of community-based ecotourism in the

of community-based ecotourism in the

of community-based ecotourism in the future however they believe that it

future however they believe that it

future however they believe that it should be in the hands of the local

should be in the hands of the local

should be in the hands of the local community and the hands of local NGOs

community and the hands of local NGOs

community and the hands of local NGOs and I firmly believe that it’s only that

and I firmly believe that it’s only that

and I firmly believe that it’s only that if it’s done on the communities terms

if it’s done on the communities terms

if it’s done on the communities terms then ecotourism could be a valuable tool

then ecotourism could be a valuable tool

then ecotourism could be a valuable tool to improve Community Development and

to improve Community Development and

to improve Community Development and economic security not only that but the

economic security not only that but the

economic security not only that but the benefits must go directly to the

benefits must go directly to the

benefits must go directly to the community rather than disappearing into

community rather than disappearing into

community rather than disappearing into the pockets of developers or investors

the pockets of developers or investors

the pockets of developers or investors from elsewhere and to find out what this

from elsewhere and to find out what this

from elsewhere and to find out what this could look like for them the homestay

could look like for them the homestay

could look like for them the homestay Association from Beloit went to visit

Association from Beloit went to visit

Association from Beloit went to visit the homestay Association in Raja Ampat

the homestay Association in Raja Ampat

the homestay Association in Raja Ampat Indonesia an inspirational experience

Indonesia an inspirational experience

Indonesia an inspirational experience which enabled them to see communities

which enabled them to see communities

which enabled them to see communities just like this one which are succeeding

just like this one which are succeeding

just like this one which are succeeding in running their own tourism businesses

in running their own tourism businesses

in running their own tourism businesses and after all learning from your peers

and after all learning from your peers

and after all learning from your peers is can provide a more powerful lesson

is can provide a more powerful lesson

is can provide a more powerful lesson than any classroom or training course

than any classroom or training course

than any classroom or training course estêvão said of the experience it was

estêvão said of the experience it was

estêvão said of the experience it was very important for us when the Raja

very important for us when the Raja

very important for us when the Raja Ampat Association told us that they

Ampat Association told us that they

Ampat Association told us that they started just like us with no support and

started just like us with no support and

started just like us with no support and now they have achieved this amazing

now they have achieved this amazing

now they have achieved this amazing success that inspires me to keep working

success that inspires me to keep working

success that inspires me to keep working so going back to our earlier dot what

so going back to our earlier dot what

so going back to our earlier dot what brought us to ecotourism was that it’s

brought us to ecotourism was that it’s

brought us to ecotourism was that it’s an alternative livelihood which enables

an alternative livelihood which enables

an alternative livelihood which enables us to pursue conservation strategies so

us to pursue conservation strategies so

us to pursue conservation strategies so that begs the question all those

that begs the question all those

that begs the question all those conservation strategies working are they

conservation strategies working are they

conservation strategies working are they having an impact and that’s where our

having an impact and that’s where our

having an impact and that’s where our international volunteers come in so

international volunteers come in so

international volunteers come in so during their time in Timor not only do

during their time in Timor not only do

during their time in Timor not only do they stay in the home stays but they

they stay in the home stays but they

they stay in the home stays but they also learn how to survey the coral reef

also learn how to survey the coral reef

also learn how to survey the coral reef and seagrass ecosystems of Arthur or

and seagrass ecosystems of Arthur or

and seagrass ecosystems of Arthur or they learn survey techniques which are

they learn survey techniques which are

they learn survey techniques which are designed to monitor changes in marine

designed to monitor changes in marine

designed to monitor changes in marine resources over time focusing on fish

resources over time focusing on fish

resources over time focusing on fish populations coral reef health

populations coral reef health

populations coral reef health biodiversity and bleaching amongst other

biodiversity and bleaching amongst other

biodiversity and bleaching amongst other things they survey inside and outside

things they survey inside and outside

things they survey inside and outside the Terra Bondi so we hope that we’ll be

the Terra Bondi so we hope that we’ll be

the Terra Bondi so we hope that we’ll be able to paint a picture of the impact

able to paint a picture of the impact

able to paint a picture of the impact that these refuges are having on the

that these refuges are having on the

that these refuges are having on the creatures living within their boundaries

creatures living within their boundaries

creatures living within their boundaries and by combining the scientific data

and by combining the scientific data

and by combining the scientific data with local experience and knowledge we

with local experience and knowledge we

with local experience and knowledge we can garner a better understanding of the

can garner a better understanding of the

can garner a better understanding of the state of marine ecosystems around us

state of marine ecosystems around us

state of marine ecosystems around us anecdotal evidence alone is not enough

anecdotal evidence alone is not enough

anecdotal evidence alone is not enough to track a management strategy but

to track a management strategy but

to track a management strategy but scientific surveys alone failed to take

scientific surveys alone failed to take

scientific surveys alone failed to take into account the rich relationship that

into account the rich relationship that

into account the rich relationship that the people of Arthur will have with

the people of Arthur will have with

the people of Arthur will have with their marine resources and bringing this

their marine resources and bringing this

their marine resources and bringing this one step further we’re now taking a

one step further we’re now taking a

one step further we’re now taking a community ring approach to monitoring

community ring approach to monitoring

community ring approach to monitoring and mapping the seagrass meadows around

and mapping the seagrass meadows around

and mapping the seagrass meadows around our flora seagrass is extremely

our flora seagrass is extremely

our flora seagrass is extremely important because it supports coral

important because it supports coral

important because it supports coral reefs and the associated fisheries

reefs and the associated fisheries

reefs and the associated fisheries acting as a water filter nursery and

acting as a water filter nursery and

acting as a water filter nursery and food source but it’s also extremely

food source but it’s also extremely

food source but it’s also extremely vulnerable many threats by taking

vulnerable many threats by taking

vulnerable many threats by taking seagrass into account in our work we

seagrass into account in our work we

seagrass into account in our work we want to take into account the

want to take into account the

want to take into account the connectivity between marine habitats we

connectivity between marine habitats we

connectivity between marine habitats we also want to take into account the

also want to take into account the

also want to take into account the connectivity between management systems

connectivity between management systems

connectivity between management systems after all fish don’t stick to the

after all fish don’t stick to the

after all fish don’t stick to the boundaries of the Terra Bondi and

boundaries of the Terra Bondi and

boundaries of the Terra Bondi and particularly as those Terrebonne dues

particularly as those Terrebonne dues

particularly as those Terrebonne dues are limited to coral reef areas this is

are limited to coral reef areas this is

are limited to coral reef areas this is important our local and international

important our local and international

important our local and international volunteers work together to survey the

volunteers work together to survey the

volunteers work together to survey the seagrass ecosystem in a thorough row so

seagrass ecosystem in a thorough row so

seagrass ecosystem in a thorough row so that the community can understand their

that the community can understand their

that the community can understand their resources and be better equipped with

resources and be better equipped with

resources and be better equipped with the knowledge they need to help them

the knowledge they need to help them

the knowledge they need to help them manage them by doing this they’re able

manage them by doing this they’re able

manage them by doing this they’re able to improve their level of understanding

to improve their level of understanding

to improve their level of understanding and learn new skills that can contribute

and learn new skills that can contribute

and learn new skills that can contribute to their sense of ownership and capacity

to their sense of ownership and capacity

to their sense of ownership and capacity when it comes to marine conservation so

when it comes to marine conservation so

when it comes to marine conservation so here we are we’ve come full circle

here we are we’ve come full circle

here we are we’ve come full circle connecting the dots

connecting the dots

connecting the dots what started as our concern over

what started as our concern over

what started as our concern over overfishing has gone through many

overfishing has gone through many

overfishing has gone through many iterations from the ecological to the

iterations from the ecological to the

iterations from the ecological to the social to the economic and back again

social to the economic and back again

social to the economic and back again and it’s only by taking all of these

and it’s only by taking all of these

and it’s only by taking all of these aspects into account that marine

aspects into account that marine

aspects into account that marine conservation can be sustained and the

conservation can be sustained and the

conservation can be sustained and the only way that you can do that properly

only way that you can do that properly

only way that you can do that properly is by listening to the community and

is by listening to the community and

is by listening to the community and taking their needs into account so you

taking their needs into account so you

taking their needs into account so you might be asking the question well what

might be asking the question well what

might be asking the question well what what will you do next where do you go

what will you do next where do you go

what will you do next where do you go from here well I don’t have the answer

from here well I don’t have the answer

from here well I don’t have the answer the community does all we can do is stay

the community does all we can do is stay

the community does all we can do is stay humble and listen to their voice we want

humble and listen to their voice we want

humble and listen to their voice we want to find a way that we can move forward

to find a way that we can move forward

to find a way that we can move forward together

together

together working to address their needs in a way

working to address their needs in a way

working to address their needs in a way that’s compatible with their values

that’s compatible with their values

that’s compatible with their values working together to achieve their

working together to achieve their

working together to achieve their aspirations thank you

aspirations thank you

aspirations thank you [Applause]

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