
do schools kill creativity Wow Wow that’s a thought-provoking idea well
that’s a thought-provoking idea well
that’s a thought-provoking idea well that was the title of a talk by Sir Ken
that was the title of a talk by Sir Ken
that was the title of a talk by Sir Ken Robinson and probably the most popular
Robinson and probably the most popular
Robinson and probably the most popular TED talk that ted has had during its
TED talk that ted has had during its
TED talk that ted has had during its history and that would tip what he
history and that would tip what he
history and that would tip what he talked about was the fact that sort of
talked about was the fact that sort of
talked about was the fact that sort of the industrial school system we have
the industrial school system we have
the industrial school system we have today doesn’t serve the creative arts
today doesn’t serve the creative arts
today doesn’t serve the creative arts very well and we will need these
very well and we will need these
very well and we will need these creative arts in the future so I enjoyed
creative arts in the future so I enjoyed
creative arts in the future so I enjoyed his talk I really enjoyed his humor very
his talk I really enjoyed his humor very
his talk I really enjoyed his humor very entertaining talk but what was
entertaining talk but what was
entertaining talk but what was interesting is he really didn’t offer a
interesting is he really didn’t offer a
interesting is he really didn’t offer a solution now years later I was really
solution now years later I was really
solution now years later I was really looking for a solution because my own
looking for a solution because my own
looking for a solution because my own kids were going into high school and
kids were going into high school and
kids were going into high school and this all became very personal and
this all became very personal and
this all became very personal and emotional for me so I saw my kids going
emotional for me so I saw my kids going
emotional for me so I saw my kids going to the normal system and really my gut
to the normal system and really my gut
to the normal system and really my gut started hurting because I as I saw how
started hurting because I as I saw how
started hurting because I as I saw how they operated the schools operated they
they operated the schools operated they
they operated the schools operated they just didn’t seem to work very well you
just didn’t seem to work very well you
just didn’t seem to work very well you know the teachers were nice and
know the teachers were nice and
know the teachers were nice and competent but the whole thing just
competent but the whole thing just
competent but the whole thing just didn’t seem to work very well it
didn’t seem to work very well it
didn’t seem to work very well it reminded me a lot of the things that I
reminded me a lot of the things that I
reminded me a lot of the things that I see in my day job so now I guess I need
see in my day job so now I guess I need
see in my day job so now I guess I need to talk to you about my day job so I’m a
to talk to you about my day job so I’m a
to talk to you about my day job so I’m a strategist I look at help companies
strategist I look at help companies
strategist I look at help companies large and small with their strategy and
large and small with their strategy and
large and small with their strategy and operations you know I guess what I want
operations you know I guess what I want
operations you know I guess what I want to do today is tell you about my
to do today is tell you about my
to do today is tell you about my two-year journey about using the skills
two-year journey about using the skills
two-year journey about using the skills for my day job and looking at the
for my day job and looking at the
for my day job and looking at the educational system now you know all of
educational system now you know all of
educational system now you know all of us will probably went through the
us will probably went through the
us will probably went through the educational system but at that point
educational system but at that point
educational system but at that point where they’re at in the maze right we
where they’re at in the maze right we
where they’re at in the maze right we don’t go there yes sir you know and so
don’t go there yes sir you know and so
don’t go there yes sir you know and so on but it’s interesting to look at it
on but it’s interesting to look at it
on but it’s interesting to look at it from the outside and with a scientific
from the outside and with a scientific
from the outside and with a scientific view so here’s how I want to do it first
view so here’s how I want to do it first
view so here’s how I want to do it first I want to make some high-level
I want to make some high-level
I want to make some high-level observations second I’m
observations second I’m
observations second I’m talk about the fundamental economic
talk about the fundamental economic
talk about the fundamental economic underpinnings of the education system I
underpinnings of the education system I
underpinnings of the education system I know that’s not something we talk about
know that’s not something we talk about
know that’s not something we talk about very much but I’m going to talk about
very much but I’m going to talk about
very much but I’m going to talk about that because I think that really will go
that because I think that really will go
that because I think that really will go a long way in explaining why it behaves
a long way in explaining why it behaves
a long way in explaining why it behaves the way it does
the way it does
the way it does third I want to talk about why it’s so
third I want to talk about why it’s so
third I want to talk about why it’s so hard to change okay and fourth a
hard to change okay and fourth a
hard to change okay and fourth a positive note after these two years I
positive note after these two years I
positive note after these two years I want to let you know that I’m actually
want to let you know that I’m actually
want to let you know that I’m actually quite positive about the prospect for
quite positive about the prospect for
quite positive about the prospect for change for the education systems that is
change for the education systems that is
change for the education systems that is I think we can get to low cost high
I think we can get to low cost high
I think we can get to low cost high quality lifelong education if we can all
quality lifelong education if we can all
quality lifelong education if we can all do just a couple of things so hold that
do just a couple of things so hold that
do just a couple of things so hold that thought
thought
thought so observations yeah you know when you
so observations yeah you know when you
so observations yeah you know when you first look at the system the first
first look at the system the first
first look at the system the first observation you make is we take kids and
observation you make is we take kids and
observation you make is we take kids and we segregate them from society and put
we segregate them from society and put
we segregate them from society and put them into this thing called the
them into this thing called the
them into this thing called the education system they can’t leave it’s a
education system they can’t leave it’s a
education system they can’t leave it’s a prison right and after about 11 years or
prison right and after about 11 years or
prison right and after about 11 years or so we say so what do you want to do in
so we say so what do you want to do in
so we say so what do you want to do in life I mean you know I don’t think
life I mean you know I don’t think
life I mean you know I don’t think that’s a particularly fair question to
that’s a particularly fair question to
that’s a particularly fair question to ask how would they know another
ask how would they know another
ask how would they know another observation the education system is
observation the education system is
observation the education system is amazingly insular the people that work
amazingly insular the people that work
amazingly insular the people that work in it the professors the administrators
in it the professors the administrators
in it the professors the administrators the teachers have likely worked with it
the teachers have likely worked with it
the teachers have likely worked with it their whole careers the interesting
their whole careers the interesting
their whole careers the interesting thing about that is we as a society look
thing about that is we as a society look
thing about that is we as a society look at the education system as the key thing
at the education system as the key thing
at the education system as the key thing that produces workers and citizens for
that produces workers and citizens for
that produces workers and citizens for the rest of society again this doesn’t
the rest of society again this doesn’t
the rest of society again this doesn’t seem to jive right there’s almost no
seem to jive right there’s almost no
seem to jive right there’s almost no interaction going on third you know most
interaction going on third you know most
interaction going on third you know most of us have to K through 12 education we
of us have to K through 12 education we
of us have to K through 12 education we hope our kids go to fabulous colleges
hope our kids go to fabulous colleges
hope our kids go to fabulous colleges and in order to facilitate this process
and in order to facilitate this process
and in order to facilitate this process there’s all sorts of college prep
there’s all sorts of college prep
there’s all sorts of college prep programs there’s AP there’s IB and ace
programs there’s AP there’s IB and ace
programs there’s AP there’s IB and ace and so on now what’s interesting is
and so on now what’s interesting is
and so on now what’s interesting is there
there
there pretty self-similar you know four years
pretty self-similar you know four years
pretty self-similar you know four years of English three years of math two years
of English three years of math two years
of English three years of math two years of foreign language and so on but what’s
of foreign language and so on but what’s
of foreign language and so on but what’s the first question that really great
the first question that really great
the first question that really great colleges ask so how are you different
colleges ask so how are you different
colleges ask so how are you different now again I don’t think that’s
now again I don’t think that’s
now again I don’t think that’s particularly fair you know we load down
particularly fair you know we load down
particularly fair you know we load down the kids with this largely selfless
the kids with this largely selfless
the kids with this largely selfless still self-similar program and then sort
still self-similar program and then sort
still self-similar program and then sort of say hey you know how can i build true
of say hey you know how can i build true
of say hey you know how can i build true differentiation so then what are we left
differentiation so then what are we left
differentiation so then what are we left with we’re left with standardized tests
with we’re left with standardized tests
with we’re left with standardized tests on the one hand and grades now I want to
on the one hand and grades now I want to
on the one hand and grades now I want to talk about grades what are they for just
talk about grades what are they for just
talk about grades what are they for just a just basic question what are they for
a just basic question what are they for
a just basic question what are they for I mean certainly there’s some
I mean certainly there’s some
I mean certainly there’s some certification you know if you get a tail
certification you know if you get a tail
certification you know if you get a tail algebra we think you know algebra but
algebra we think you know algebra but
algebra we think you know algebra but what I’m really interested in is what if
what I’m really interested in is what if
what I’m really interested in is what if you get a D in algebra what does that
you get a D in algebra what does that
you get a D in algebra what does that mean what certainly means you don’t know
mean what certainly means you don’t know
mean what certainly means you don’t know algebra I think that’s pretty clear but
algebra I think that’s pretty clear but
algebra I think that’s pretty clear but why wait maybe you’re not a good student
why wait maybe you’re not a good student
why wait maybe you’re not a good student maybe you didn’t have a good teacher you
maybe you didn’t have a good teacher you
maybe you didn’t have a good teacher you know it may be that you were just enough
know it may be that you were just enough
know it may be that you were just enough not in a life condition where you know
not in a life condition where you know
not in a life condition where you know algebra was important to you I guess my
algebra was important to you I guess my
algebra was important to you I guess my point is this Dean algebra really
point is this Dean algebra really
point is this Dean algebra really doesn’t have an economic benefit and
doesn’t have an economic benefit and
doesn’t have an economic benefit and that’s kind of funny
that’s kind of funny
that’s kind of funny if you think about it because this is
if you think about it because this is
if you think about it because this is one of the few circumstances where we
one of the few circumstances where we
one of the few circumstances where we pay for an economic good that can
pay for an economic good that can
pay for an economic good that can actually filter us out of our own future
so we have a funny system right I mean
so we have a funny system right I mean you just let’s just MIT it now when you
you just let’s just MIT it now when you
you just let’s just MIT it now when you were you whenever you as a strategist
were you whenever you as a strategist
were you whenever you as a strategist look at something like this you have to
look at something like this you have to
look at something like this you have to ask well why is it the way it is after
ask well why is it the way it is after
ask well why is it the way it is after all things that have been running for
all things that have been running for
all things that have been running for hundreds of years don’t end up that way
hundreds of years don’t end up that way
hundreds of years don’t end up that way for no reason so I think the key insight
for no reason so I think the key insight
for no reason so I think the key insight to understanding the educational system
to understanding the educational system
to understanding the educational system is to understand its economic
is to understand its economic
is to understand its economic underpinnings and by the way this is
underpinnings and by the way this is
underpinnings and by the way this is true whether you’re talking about k-12
true whether you’re talking about k-12
true whether you’re talking about k-12 education you’re talking about college
education you’re talking about college
education you’re talking about college education even graduate education to a
education even graduate education to a
education even graduate education to a certain degree and here’s the key thing
certain degree and here’s the key thing
certain degree and here’s the key thing the whole education system is based on
the whole education system is based on
the whole education system is based on the following there’s a scarce resource
the following there’s a scarce resource
the following there’s a scarce resource which we call the teacher
which we call the teacher
which we call the teacher there’s a scarce resource which we call
there’s a scarce resource which we call
there’s a scarce resource which we call the classroom and the education system
the classroom and the education system
the classroom and the education system takes these two things together and
takes these two things together and
takes these two things together and through a craftsman like model delivers
through a craftsman like model delivers
through a craftsman like model delivers education to banks of kids as they go by
education to banks of kids as they go by
education to banks of kids as they go by okay so those are the three fundamentals
okay so those are the three fundamentals
okay so those are the three fundamentals its craftsman model scarcity of the two
its craftsman model scarcity of the two
its craftsman model scarcity of the two aspects of Education now you know as
aspects of Education now you know as
aspects of Education now you know as long as the scarcity is real
long as the scarcity is real
long as the scarcity is real one could argue maybe it’s not a bad
one could argue maybe it’s not a bad
one could argue maybe it’s not a bad system right but what’s interesting to
system right but what’s interesting to
system right but what’s interesting to me is you know let’s consider the
me is you know let’s consider the
me is you know let’s consider the craftsman model nearly every industry
craftsman model nearly every industry
craftsman model nearly every industry starts out as a craftsman model but you
starts out as a craftsman model but you
starts out as a craftsman model but you know what happens rapidly afterwards
know what happens rapidly afterwards
know what happens rapidly afterwards people start looking at the basic
people start looking at the basic
people start looking at the basic processes that occur and say well how
processes that occur and say well how
processes that occur and say well how can we optimize these in such a way that
can we optimize these in such a way that
can we optimize these in such a way that the quality of delivery is consistent
the quality of delivery is consistent
the quality of delivery is consistent the cost goes down and maybe there’s
the cost goes down and maybe there’s
the cost goes down and maybe there’s different service levels well I mean we
different service levels well I mean we
different service levels well I mean we know this I mean if the food industry
know this I mean if the food industry
know this I mean if the food industry has you can have McDonald’s Panera etc
has you can have McDonald’s Panera etc
has you can have McDonald’s Panera etc the hotel industry has this but
the hotel industry has this but
the hotel industry has this but education uniquely we’re still in the
education uniquely we’re still in the
education uniquely we’re still in the craftsman model you know and the
craftsman model you know and the
craftsman model you know and the consequences are huge in terms of waste
consequences are huge in terms of waste
consequences are huge in terms of waste I mean just think about it how old is
I mean just think about it how old is
I mean just think about it how old is algebra hundreds of years old
algebra hundreds of years old
algebra hundreds of years old but thousands of teacher today teachers
but thousands of teacher today teachers
but thousands of teacher today teachers today the cross the United States will
today the cross the United States will
today the cross the United States will get up develop a lecture deliver the
get up develop a lecture deliver the
get up develop a lecture deliver the lecture do assessment correct the
lecture do assessment correct the
lecture do assessment correct the assessments and then get on the hamster
assessments and then get on the hamster
assessments and then get on the hamster wheel to do it over and over again now
wheel to do it over and over again now
wheel to do it over and over again now every other industry would look at that
every other industry would look at that
every other industry would look at that and say you know let’s optimize the heck
and say you know let’s optimize the heck
and say you know let’s optimize the heck out of this and let’s take the most core
out of this and let’s take the most core
out of this and let’s take the most core resource we have the teacher and the
resource we have the teacher and the
resource we have the teacher and the one-on-one time that’s the most valuable
one-on-one time that’s the most valuable
one-on-one time that’s the most valuable thing that’s there maximize that and
thing that’s there maximize that and
thing that’s there maximize that and automate the rest of this stuff it can
automate the rest of this stuff it can
automate the rest of this stuff it can be done let me tell you let’s talk about
be done let me tell you let’s talk about
be done let me tell you let’s talk about these other two scarcities that drive
these other two scarcities that drive
these other two scarcities that drive the whole economics of the system so one
the whole economics of the system so one
the whole economics of the system so one is the classroom well we all know with
is the classroom well we all know with
is the classroom well we all know with computer technology in the internet we
computer technology in the internet we
computer technology in the internet we can have virtual classrooms and they’re
can have virtual classrooms and they’re
can have virtual classrooms and they’re advantageous in many many ways but one
advantageous in many many ways but one
advantageous in many many ways but one key way their advantages
key way their advantages
key way their advantages advantageous is eminently scalable we’re
advantageous is eminently scalable we’re
advantageous is eminently scalable we’re currently building physical buildings
currently building physical buildings
currently building physical buildings all over the place enormous amounts of
all over the place enormous amounts of
all over the place enormous amounts of money are being spent on physical
money are being spent on physical
money are being spent on physical buildings as if buildings could teach
buildings as if buildings could teach
buildings as if buildings could teach you no let’s talk about the teacher I’ve
you no let’s talk about the teacher I’ve
you no let’s talk about the teacher I’ve talked about the productivity of the
talked about the productivity of the
talked about the productivity of the teacher but realistically would sit with
teacher but realistically would sit with
teacher but realistically would sit with the Internet technology one can actually
the Internet technology one can actually
the Internet technology one can actually source a much wider variety of teachers
source a much wider variety of teachers
source a much wider variety of teachers and quality of teachers geographically
and quality of teachers geographically
and quality of teachers geographically so if you want to get an industrial arts
so if you want to get an industrial arts
so if you want to get an industrial arts teacher living in Michigan to teach
teacher living in Michigan to teach
teacher living in Michigan to teach something in Florida you can if you want
something in Florida you can if you want
something in Florida you can if you want to get a you know Chinese speaking
to get a you know Chinese speaking
to get a you know Chinese speaking teacher from San Francisco to teach in
teacher from San Francisco to teach in
teacher from San Francisco to teach in Michigan you can we just have to think
Michigan you can we just have to think
Michigan you can we just have to think broadly so what is this all net up to if
broadly so what is this all net up to if
broadly so what is this all net up to if we just in education did the things
we just in education did the things
we just in education did the things every other industry does focus on
every other industry does focus on
every other industry does focus on process optimization focus on using
process optimization focus on using
process optimization focus on using technology and innovation and do that as
technology and innovation and do that as
technology and innovation and do that as a forward-looking process I think we can
a forward-looking process I think we can
a forward-looking process I think we can fundamentally change how education works
fundamentally change how education works
fundamentally change how education works so that leads the question so why hasn’t
so that leads the question so why hasn’t
so that leads the question so why hasn’t already happened
already happened
already happened obviously these are large bureaucracies
obviously these are large bureaucracies
obviously these are large bureaucracies there and they don’t want to change
there and they don’t want to change
there and they don’t want to change right by the way that’s true for every
right by the way that’s true for every
right by the way that’s true for every bureaucracy not just education and I
bureaucracy not just education and I
bureaucracy not just education and I think one could say there’s like kind of
think one could say there’s like kind of
think one could say there’s like kind of this local versus global decision making
this local versus global decision making
this local versus global decision making that happens a lot let me take that
that happens a lot let me take that
that happens a lot let me take that algebra teacher if you’ve been teaching
algebra teacher if you’ve been teaching
algebra teacher if you’ve been teaching algebra for nine years teaching it the
algebra for nine years teaching it the
algebra for nine years teaching it the same way the 10th year really isn’t that
same way the 10th year really isn’t that
same way the 10th year really isn’t that that much incremental effort but
that much incremental effort but
that much incremental effort but teaching it a completely different way
teaching it a completely different way
teaching it a completely different way with higher productivity well that’s a
with higher productivity well that’s a
with higher productivity well that’s a lot of work so there’s a lot of inertia
lot of work so there’s a lot of inertia
lot of work so there’s a lot of inertia in the system also the work what I’m
in the system also the work what I’m
in the system also the work what I’m talking about here is pretty different
talking about here is pretty different
talking about here is pretty different day to day so it’s kind of like you know
day to day so it’s kind of like you know
day to day so it’s kind of like you know Sears trying to figure out ecommerce
Sears trying to figure out ecommerce
Sears trying to figure out ecommerce it’s hard for them right but you know
it’s hard for them right but you know
it’s hard for them right but you know all of us that I just said it’s true in
all of us that I just said it’s true in
all of us that I just said it’s true in other industries so what what’s really
other industries so what what’s really
other industries so what what’s really different here well what’s really
different here well what’s really
different here well what’s really different here I think is
different here I think is
different here I think is we tolerated let me give you an example
we tolerated let me give you an example
we tolerated let me give you an example I know of IB programs where different
I know of IB programs where different
I know of IB programs where different teachers use different software programs
teachers use different software programs
teachers use different software programs and because they use different software
and because they use different software
and because they use different software programs there are students that are
programs there are students that are
programs there are students that are managing 20 20 to 25 different logins no
managing 20 20 to 25 different logins no
managing 20 20 to 25 different logins no I don’t think managing logins is a huge
I don’t think managing logins is a huge
I don’t think managing logins is a huge educational benefit but my point is just
educational benefit but my point is just
educational benefit but my point is just notice what just happened here all the
notice what just happened here all the
notice what just happened here all the aggregate complexity for that education
aggregate complexity for that education
aggregate complexity for that education got pushed from the individual teachers
got pushed from the individual teachers
got pushed from the individual teachers to the student and their parents we
to the student and their parents we
to the student and their parents we would not tolerate this in any other
would not tolerate this in any other
would not tolerate this in any other aspect of our life I mean if you went to
aspect of our life I mean if you went to
aspect of our life I mean if you went to a bank and every single teller told you
a bank and every single teller told you
a bank and every single teller told you there was a different way to interact to
there was a different way to interact to
there was a different way to interact to them you wouldn’t tolerate it so what’s
them you wouldn’t tolerate it so what’s
them you wouldn’t tolerate it so what’s different about education is we tolerate
different about education is we tolerate
different about education is we tolerate it that’s one thing the second thing
it that’s one thing the second thing
it that’s one thing the second thing that’s different is we have this kind of
that’s different is we have this kind of
that’s different is we have this kind of social psychological straightjacket
social psychological straightjacket
social psychological straightjacket around education that is if you want to
around education that is if you want to
around education that is if you want to do something unconventional it’s kind of
do something unconventional it’s kind of
do something unconventional it’s kind of a social stigma tied to it it’s
a social stigma tied to it it’s
a social stigma tied to it it’s different oh you didn’t get quite the
different oh you didn’t get quite the
different oh you didn’t get quite the degree that we thought you should have
degree that we thought you should have
degree that we thought you should have gotten or you didn’t do it the way we
gotten or you didn’t do it the way we
gotten or you didn’t do it the way we want it right and that itself creates
want it right and that itself creates
want it right and that itself creates inertia in the whole system because
inertia in the whole system because
inertia in the whole system because there’s only one way to do things I’m
there’s only one way to do things I’m
there’s only one way to do things I’m here to tell you there’s actually a lot
here to tell you there’s actually a lot
here to tell you there’s actually a lot of exciting stuff happening I mean if
of exciting stuff happening I mean if
of exciting stuff happening I mean if you look around in the unconventional
you look around in the unconventional
you look around in the unconventional world you have folks like Western
world you have folks like Western
world you have folks like Western Governors University or the University
Governors University or the University
Governors University or the University of Arizona offering self-paced
of Arizona offering self-paced
of Arizona offering self-paced competency-based education at reasonable
competency-based education at reasonable
competency-based education at reasonable cost you have Florida Virtual School
cost you have Florida Virtual School
cost you have Florida Virtual School doing the same thing for K through 12
doing the same thing for K through 12
doing the same thing for K through 12 education you know just to realize what
education you know just to realize what
education you know just to realize what that means is the student can move at
that means is the student can move at
that means is the student can move at their own pace
their own pace
their own pace they have 24/7 access to the materials
they have 24/7 access to the materials
they have 24/7 access to the materials they can have a one-on-one relationship
they can have a one-on-one relationship
they can have a one-on-one relationship with the teacher and we do this today
with the teacher and we do this today
with the teacher and we do this today right it’s available all of you your
right it’s available all of you your
right it’s available all of you your folks like Khan Academy which are
folks like Khan Academy which are
folks like Khan Academy which are bypassing the
bypassing the
bypassing the nation functions and talking directly to
nation functions and talking directly to
nation functions and talking directly to to the employers and building a scale
to the employers and building a scale
to the employers and building a scale system for building those skills and you
system for building those skills and you
system for building those skills and you know the educational system is paying
know the educational system is paying
know the educational system is paying attention when Purdue University a large
attention when Purdue University a large
attention when Purdue University a large public university buys Kaplan learning
public university buys Kaplan learning
public university buys Kaplan learning systems okay so if you add it all up
systems okay so if you add it all up
systems okay so if you add it all up there’s very interesting things
there’s very interesting things
there’s very interesting things happening in this unconventional world
happening in this unconventional world
happening in this unconventional world now you might ask well if you think this
now you might ask well if you think this
now you might ask well if you think this is all so great what did you do with
is all so great what did you do with
is all so great what did you do with your kids and indeed what I’m going to
your kids and indeed what I’m going to
your kids and indeed what I’m going to tell you is when I looked at this whole
tell you is when I looked at this whole
tell you is when I looked at this whole space
space
space I had a left-brain right-brain fight and
I had a left-brain right-brain fight and
I had a left-brain right-brain fight and the left brain said yeah then analysis
the left brain said yeah then analysis
the left brain said yeah then analysis part said I’m looking at this this is
part said I’m looking at this this is
part said I’m looking at this this is obvious this is actually the best
obvious this is actually the best
obvious this is actually the best education at independent of cost you can
education at independent of cost you can
education at independent of cost you can get but my right brain said that’s
get but my right brain said that’s
get but my right brain said that’s different
different
different what will others say right but after two
what will others say right but after two
what will others say right but after two years you know the subjects of my
years you know the subjects of my
years you know the subjects of my scientific experiment my kids I can tell
scientific experiment my kids I can tell
scientific experiment my kids I can tell you that they’re thriving now I’m not
you that they’re thriving now I’m not
you that they’re thriving now I’m not saying everybody should do what I did in
saying everybody should do what I did in
saying everybody should do what I did in fact kind of my point is you should all
fact kind of my point is you should all
fact kind of my point is you should all do what’s right for you
do what’s right for you
do what’s right for you but what I’m saying is whoever your
but what I’m saying is whoever your
but what I’m saying is whoever your institutions of Education are you really
institutions of Education are you really
institutions of Education are you really need to demand from them innovative
need to demand from them innovative
need to demand from them innovative techniques and and innovation in terms
techniques and and innovation in terms
techniques and and innovation in terms of what they do day to day and when they
of what they do day to day and when they
of what they do day to day and when they don’t provide it be very open to the
don’t provide it be very open to the
don’t provide it be very open to the unconventional methods because the
unconventional methods because the
unconventional methods because the system won’t change until you do okay
system won’t change until you do okay
system won’t change until you do okay and the second thing is let’s all
and the second thing is let’s all
and the second thing is let’s all collectively get rid of this social
collectively get rid of this social
collectively get rid of this social stigma around around doing different
stigma around around doing different
stigma around around doing different ways of education so sort of finally I
ways of education so sort of finally I
ways of education so sort of finally I think if we do all of this sort of stuff
think if we do all of this sort of stuff
think if we do all of this sort of stuff there’s an opportunity to really change
there’s an opportunity to really change
there’s an opportunity to really change the education system and I think we can
the education system and I think we can
the education system and I think we can get to a point where the
get to a point where the
get to a point where the big part of Education we don’t talk
big part of Education we don’t talk
big part of Education we don’t talk about it as adults you know as well as
about it as adults you know as well as
about it as adults you know as well as kids and college kids all of us I think
kids and college kids all of us I think
kids and college kids all of us I think should have an ability to get access to
should have an ability to get access to
should have an ability to get access to education literally as a utility and I
education literally as a utility and I
education literally as a utility and I think we can get there okay I thought
think we can get there okay I thought
think we can get there okay I thought this is an interesting idea and that’s
this is an interesting idea and that’s
this is an interesting idea and that’s why I wanted to share with you thank you
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