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Sharks & Female Scientists: More Alike than You Think | Melissa Marquez | TEDxWellington


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[Music] sharks they’ve taken me from buggy

sharks they’ve taken me from buggy

sharks they’ve taken me from buggy Florida to the beautiful shores of the

Florida to the beautiful shores of the

Florida to the beautiful shores of the Bahamas and have landed me in the

Bahamas and have landed me in the

Bahamas and have landed me in the freezing cold waters of South Africa

freezing cold waters of South Africa

freezing cold waters of South Africa I’ve had to wait hours in the cold for

I’ve had to wait hours in the cold for

I’ve had to wait hours in the cold for two nurse sharks to let go of one

two nurse sharks to let go of one

two nurse sharks to let go of one another and had to drink

another and had to drink

another and had to drink way more than the recommended about a

way more than the recommended about a

way more than the recommended about a Red Bull person should ever have in one

Red Bull person should ever have in one

Red Bull person should ever have in one night to stay up to possibly see this a

night to stay up to possibly see this a

night to stay up to possibly see this a breach with over 500 species of sharks

breach with over 500 species of sharks

breach with over 500 species of sharks alone never mind their relatives I have

alone never mind their relatives I have

alone never mind their relatives I have been kept busy the past couple of years

been kept busy the past couple of years

been kept busy the past couple of years and now sharks have brought me here two

and now sharks have brought me here two

and now sharks have brought me here two years ago I moved to New Zealand from

years ago I moved to New Zealand from

years ago I moved to New Zealand from Florida to get my master’s degree in

Florida to get my master’s degree in

Florida to get my master’s degree in marine biology at Victoria University

marine biology at Victoria University

marine biology at Victoria University here in Wellington I study sharks and

here in Wellington I study sharks and

here in Wellington I study sharks and their relatives the skates the Rays and

their relatives the skates the Rays and

their relatives the skates the Rays and the chimeras I specifically look at

the chimeras I specifically look at

the chimeras I specifically look at their habitats use in migratory behavior

their habitats use in migratory behavior

their habitats use in migratory behavior answering where they are and why they’re

answering where they are and why they’re

answering where they are and why they’re there and how social media and the media

there and how social media and the media

there and how social media and the media and general covers them now chances are

and general covers them now chances are

and general covers them now chances are well I’ve been talking about these

well I’ve been talking about these

well I’ve been talking about these animals you’ve been thinking of them as

animals you’ve been thinking of them as

animals you’ve been thinking of them as neutral just sharks neither male nor

neutral just sharks neither male nor

neutral just sharks neither male nor female that was done on purpose because

female that was done on purpose because

female that was done on purpose because often when you turn on the TV see you

often when you turn on the TV see you

often when you turn on the TV see you nature show and it has sharks you’ll

nature show and it has sharks you’ll

nature show and it has sharks you’ll hear the narrator say wow he’s a big one

hear the narrator say wow he’s a big one

hear the narrator say wow he’s a big one followed by some bleeped out curse words

followed by some bleeped out curse words

followed by some bleeped out curse words and this is done even without seeing the

and this is done even without seeing the

and this is done even without seeing the key external giveaway on whether a shark

key external giveaway on whether a shark

key external giveaway on whether a shark is a male or a female the class purrs

is a male or a female the class purrs

is a male or a female the class purrs now to put it bluntly claspers are the

now to put it bluntly claspers are the

now to put it bluntly claspers are the Sharks version of a penis plural because

Sharks version of a penis plural because

Sharks version of a penis plural because sharks have two of them commercials do

sharks have two of them commercials do

sharks have two of them commercials do this to one of my favorites is a

this to one of my favorites is a

this to one of my favorites is a Snickers one and there’s two sharks

Snickers one and there’s two sharks

Snickers one and there’s two sharks three debating on what human they were

three debating on what human they were

three debating on what human they were prefer to eat and while never identified

prefer to eat and while never identified

prefer to eat and while never identified as male the husky voices by male actors

as male the husky voices by male actors

as male the husky voices by male actors linked to the idea that these sharks

linked to the idea that these sharks

linked to the idea that these sharks were in fact male now there are other

were in fact male now there are other

were in fact male now there are other things that are wrong with this

things that are wrong with this

things that are wrong with this commercial like it doesn’t not

commercial like it doesn’t not

commercial like it doesn’t not to dispel the myth that sharks eat

to dispel the myth that sharks eat

to dispel the myth that sharks eat people but the thing that teenage

people but the thing that teenage

people but the thing that teenage Melissa was mad about sharks didn’t have

Melissa was mad about sharks didn’t have

Melissa was mad about sharks didn’t have claspers they’re not that hard to draw

claspers they’re not that hard to draw

claspers they’re not that hard to draw in my dad found it hilarious that that

in my dad found it hilarious that that

in my dad found it hilarious that that was what bugged me the most not the fact

was what bugged me the most not the fact

was what bugged me the most not the fact that the Sharks were talking at all this

that the Sharks were talking at all this

that the Sharks were talking at all this is often the case when talking about the

is often the case when talking about the

is often the case when talking about the scientists who study these animals you

scientists who study these animals you

scientists who study these animals you see the males it’s like we female

see the males it’s like we female

see the males it’s like we female researchers are like deep-sea sharks

researchers are like deep-sea sharks

researchers are like deep-sea sharks lurking in the darkness there but

lurking in the darkness there but

lurking in the darkness there but nobody’s paying attention that’s how it

nobody’s paying attention that’s how it

nobody’s paying attention that’s how it was in the field for a while your peers

was in the field for a while your peers

was in the field for a while your peers your mentors your professors were all

your mentors your professors were all

your mentors your professors were all male and it sucked not having anybody to

male and it sucked not having anybody to

male and it sucked not having anybody to turn to who has taken your path when

turn to who has taken your path when

turn to who has taken your path when things were overwhelming or confusing I

things were overwhelming or confusing I

things were overwhelming or confusing I had a male professionals rip the shark

had a male professionals rip the shark

had a male professionals rip the shark tags out of my hands because I wasn’t

tags out of my hands because I wasn’t

tags out of my hands because I wasn’t strong enough to get them through the

strong enough to get them through the

strong enough to get them through the Sharks thick and protective skin when I

Sharks thick and protective skin when I

Sharks thick and protective skin when I asked them what I could do to get

asked them what I could do to get

asked them what I could do to get stronger I was met with laughter and I

stronger I was met with laughter and I

stronger I was met with laughter and I snide leave it to the males we work out

snide leave it to the males we work out

snide leave it to the males we work out so we can do this sort of thing now

so we can do this sort of thing now

so we can do this sort of thing now there are more females in the science

there are more females in the science

there are more females in the science fields and that’s great but we rarely

fields and that’s great but we rarely

fields and that’s great but we rarely get the spotlight in fact female sharks

get the spotlight in fact female sharks

get the spotlight in fact female sharks they have to a sexually reproduce in

they have to a sexually reproduce in

they have to a sexually reproduce in order to get their 15 minutes of fame

order to get their 15 minutes of fame

order to get their 15 minutes of fame that’s right

that’s right

that’s right tinder for sharks has not been invented

tinder for sharks has not been invented

tinder for sharks has not been invented yet so some females have actually

yet so some females have actually

yet so some females have actually developed the ability to have babies on

developed the ability to have babies on

developed the ability to have babies on their own now while some species can

their own now while some species can

their own now while some species can store sperm for long periods of time and

store sperm for long periods of time and

store sperm for long periods of time and reproduce that way these babies these

reproduce that way these babies these

reproduce that way these babies these pups were special that they only had

pups were special that they only had

pups were special that they only had their mother’s DNA it’s extraordinary

their mother’s DNA it’s extraordinary

their mother’s DNA it’s extraordinary and maybe not unusual that they’ve

and maybe not unusual that they’ve

and maybe not unusual that they’ve switched from sexual to asexual

switched from sexual to asexual

switched from sexual to asexual reproduction but cool nonetheless that

reproduction but cool nonetheless that

reproduction but cool nonetheless that they decided to take reproduction into

they decided to take reproduction into

they decided to take reproduction into their own fins

the other extraordinary factor of this

the other extraordinary factor of this the females that study these animals

the females that study these animals

the females that study these animals I’ll introduce you to one of them this

I’ll introduce you to one of them this

I’ll introduce you to one of them this is my friend Megan McCord she’s a

is my friend Megan McCord she’s a

is my friend Megan McCord she’s a scientist the shark scientists in South

scientist the shark scientists in South

scientist the shark scientists in South Africa and I want to tell you a story

Africa and I want to tell you a story

Africa and I want to tell you a story about her and a bull shark Megan and her

about her and a bull shark Megan and her

about her and a bull shark Megan and her team caught a four metre long almost

team caught a four metre long almost

team caught a four metre long almost half a ton bull shark Megan was six

half a ton bull shark Megan was six

half a ton bull shark Megan was six months pregnant when she did that

months pregnant when she did that

months pregnant when she did that the bull shark was also pregnant yeah

the bull shark was also pregnant yeah

the bull shark was also pregnant yeah spoiler alert the big boys you see

spoiler alert the big boys you see

spoiler alert the big boys you see flying through the air are often big

flying through the air are often big

flying through the air are often big girls yes I look for claspers on flying

girls yes I look for claspers on flying

girls yes I look for claspers on flying sharks I don’t know what that says about

sharks I don’t know what that says about

sharks I don’t know what that says about me but it stays nonetheless that the

me but it stays nonetheless that the

me but it stays nonetheless that the females do tend to be larger than the

females do tend to be larger than the

females do tend to be larger than the males

males

males which can lead to some interesting

which can lead to some interesting

which can lead to some interesting encounters like male-female eating a

encounters like male-female eating a

encounters like male-female eating a smaller male oops now while we female

smaller male oops now while we female

smaller male oops now while we female researchers don’t eat our male

researchers don’t eat our male

researchers don’t eat our male counterparts who annoy us though

counterparts who annoy us though

counterparts who annoy us though sometimes we wish we are pretty stubborn

sometimes we wish we are pretty stubborn

sometimes we wish we are pretty stubborn we have to deal with things in the field

we have to deal with things in the field

we have to deal with things in the field that men just don’t have to deal with

that men just don’t have to deal with

that men just don’t have to deal with periods pregnancies pumping breast milk

periods pregnancies pumping breast milk

periods pregnancies pumping breast milk in field conditions that are less than

in field conditions that are less than

in field conditions that are less than ideal I’ll give you an example I’m a

ideal I’ll give you an example I’m a

ideal I’ll give you an example I’m a menacing five-foot 148 kg that’s a

menacing five-foot 148 kg that’s a

menacing five-foot 148 kg that’s a hundred pounds for the Americans

hundred pounds for the Americans

hundred pounds for the Americans listening and I was asked to pick up the

listening and I was asked to pick up the

listening and I was asked to pick up the anchor that’s half my size both in

anchor that’s half my size both in

anchor that’s half my size both in height and also weight that’s fine oh by

height and also weight that’s fine oh by

height and also weight that’s fine oh by the way you’re doing it in a storm alone

the way you’re doing it in a storm alone

the way you’re doing it in a storm alone and everyone else is seasick okay it

and everyone else is seasick okay it

and everyone else is seasick okay it didn’t end well

didn’t end well

didn’t end well I apologize to my parents for all the

I apologize to my parents for all the

I apologize to my parents for all the medical scares I’ve had the past couple

medical scares I’ve had the past couple

medical scares I’ve had the past couple of years just like female researchers

of years just like female researchers

of years just like female researchers have to deal with certain things in a

have to deal with certain things in a

have to deal with certain things in a male-dominated field sharks female

male-dominated field sharks female

male-dominated field sharks female sharks have some issues to deal with

sharks have some issues to deal with

sharks have some issues to deal with like their own like sex gone are the

like their own like sex gone are the

like their own like sex gone are the champagne and the rose petals instead

champagne and the rose petals instead

champagne and the rose petals instead males actually have to bite onto females

males actually have to bite onto females

males actually have to bite onto females to keep them still during the act

to keep them still during the act

to keep them still during the act ouch I know now you would think that

ouch I know now you would think that

ouch I know now you would think that would hurt the females and to an extent

would hurt the females and to an extent

would hurt the females and to an extent it does are not to with those teeth but

it does are not to with those teeth but

it does are not to with those teeth but females have actually adapted in that

females have actually adapted in that

females have actually adapted in that their skin is up to three times as thick

their skin is up to three times as thick

their skin is up to three times as thick in some areas like where the males bite

in some areas like where the males bite

in some areas like where the males bite we female researchers have also had to

we female researchers have also had to

we female researchers have also had to adapt to having thick skin as a Latina

adapt to having thick skin as a Latina

adapt to having thick skin as a Latina marine biologist I am not alone in

marine biologist I am not alone in

marine biologist I am not alone in dealing with racism sexism ageism and

dealing with racism sexism ageism and

dealing with racism sexism ageism and more in a field that is still

more in a field that is still

more in a field that is still predominated by males in fact on Twitter

predominated by males in fact on Twitter

predominated by males in fact on Twitter 92% of the most followed scientists

92% of the most followed scientists

92% of the most followed scientists males think Bill Nye sort of thing and

males think Bill Nye sort of thing and

males think Bill Nye sort of thing and when females are added into the

when females are added into the

when females are added into the narrative it’s because of our appearance

narrative it’s because of our appearance

narrative it’s because of our appearance not because of our achievements to be

not because of our achievements to be

not because of our achievements to be honest I actually worried about what you

honest I actually worried about what you

honest I actually worried about what you guys thought about my outfit today more

guys thought about my outfit today more

guys thought about my outfit today more than what you thought about my words and

than what you thought about my words and

than what you thought about my words and I’m not alone in that actually I held a

I’m not alone in that actually I held a

I’m not alone in that actually I held a poll recently and the 682 women that

poll recently and the 682 women that

poll recently and the 682 women that voted 74 percent of them had their

voted 74 percent of them had their

voted 74 percent of them had their appearances critiqued over their work

appearances critiqued over their work

appearances critiqued over their work think about that for a second 74 percent

think about that for a second 74 percent

think about that for a second 74 percent it’s a combat that we’ve come up with

it’s a combat that we’ve come up with

it’s a combat that we’ve come up with hashtags like distractingly sexy and

hashtags like distractingly sexy and

hashtags like distractingly sexy and dressed like a woman to reject the

dressed like a woman to reject the

dressed like a woman to reject the sexist idea that our appearance or our

sexist idea that our appearance or our

sexist idea that our appearance or our very existence is a distraction to our

very existence is a distraction to our

very existence is a distraction to our male colleagues when I tell people I’m a

male colleagues when I tell people I’m a

male colleagues when I tell people I’m a marine biologist a lot of them say oh

marine biologist a lot of them say oh

marine biologist a lot of them say oh that’s what I want it to be I asked them

that’s what I want it to be I asked them

that’s what I want it to be I asked them why they didn’t pursue that you want to

why they didn’t pursue that you want to

why they didn’t pursue that you want to know what lack of role models they

know what lack of role models they

know what lack of role models they didn’t see them

didn’t see them

didn’t see them selves where I now am and that’s a

selves where I now am and that’s a

selves where I now am and that’s a problem because we’ve now got

problem because we’ve now got

problem because we’ve now got organizations worldwide who are

organizations worldwide who are

organizations worldwide who are realizing this this lack of diverse role

realizing this this lack of diverse role

realizing this this lack of diverse role models and are we’ve got programs

models and are we’ve got programs

models and are we’ve got programs cropping up worldwide to try to combat

cropping up worldwide to try to combat

cropping up worldwide to try to combat that to encourage young girls to pursue

that to encourage young girls to pursue

that to encourage young girls to pursue the sciences and shedding a much-needed

the sciences and shedding a much-needed

the sciences and shedding a much-needed spotlight on diverse women in those

spotlight on diverse women in those

spotlight on diverse women in those fields role models I wish I had when I

fields role models I wish I had when I

fields role models I wish I had when I was seven years old

was seven years old

was seven years old now hopefully kids that age can look up

now hopefully kids that age can look up

now hopefully kids that age can look up and see those people and maybe see

and see those people and maybe see

and see those people and maybe see themselves among them I grew up with no

themselves among them I grew up with no

themselves among them I grew up with no latina marine biologists and today I

latina marine biologists and today I

latina marine biologists and today I know very few and I realize I’m now in a

know very few and I realize I’m now in a

know very few and I realize I’m now in a position to be that role model I wish I

position to be that role model I wish I

position to be that role model I wish I had when I was seven years old even

had when I was seven years old even

had when I was seven years old even though I don’t know where I’m going to

though I don’t know where I’m going to

though I don’t know where I’m going to end up I’m young I’m 23 but I know I’m

end up I’m young I’m 23 but I know I’m

end up I’m young I’m 23 but I know I’m going to continue being an advocate not

going to continue being an advocate not

going to continue being an advocate not only for the representation of diver

only for the representation of diver

only for the representation of diver sharks but also for diver scientists and

sharks but also for diver scientists and

sharks but also for diver scientists and I’m doing that already through my

I’m doing that already through my

I’m doing that already through my organization the fins United initiative

organization the fins United initiative

organization the fins United initiative because I’m hoping that someone out

because I’m hoping that someone out

because I’m hoping that someone out there can see themselves in me and say

there can see themselves in me and say

there can see themselves in me and say she did it I can do it if she’s doing it

she did it I can do it if she’s doing it

she did it I can do it if she’s doing it I will do it it’s not that hard and I’m

I will do it it’s not that hard and I’m

I will do it it’s not that hard and I’m hoping through stories like mine we can

hoping through stories like mine we can

hoping through stories like mine we can smash the stereotypical portrait of what

smash the stereotypical portrait of what

smash the stereotypical portrait of what a scientist is because think about it

a scientist is because think about it

a scientist is because think about it when you ask a child to draw scientists

when you ask a child to draw scientists

when you ask a child to draw scientists you get a guy in a lab coat you don’t

you get a guy in a lab coat you don’t

you get a guy in a lab coat you don’t get me it’s as easy as the sort of a

get me it’s as easy as the sort of a

get me it’s as easy as the sort of a hashtag to someone who has a platform

hashtag to someone who has a platform

hashtag to someone who has a platform and is willing to pay attention like say

and is willing to pay attention like say

and is willing to pay attention like say bill 9 yeah that hashtag I hope to start

bill 9 yeah that hashtag I hope to start

bill 9 yeah that hashtag I hope to start that and he responded and I’m glad he

that and he responded and I’m glad he

that and he responded and I’m glad he did because the continued lack of

did because the continued lack of

did because the continued lack of diverse role models makes me wonder what

diverse role models makes me wonder what

diverse role models makes me wonder what unrealized potential we continue losing

unrealized potential we continue losing

unrealized potential we continue losing because people can’t see

because people can’t see

because people can’t see themselves where I am where we are just

themselves where I am where we are just

themselves where I am where we are just like visibility is important for kids

like visibility is important for kids

like visibility is important for kids it’s also important for the women

it’s also important for the women

it’s also important for the women already in these fields our voices are

already in these fields our voices are

already in these fields our voices are absent from the leadership table and

absent from the leadership table and

absent from the leadership table and that’s sending a really strong message

that’s sending a really strong message

that’s sending a really strong message as a latina marine biologist I was

as a latina marine biologist I was

as a latina marine biologist I was uplifted and championed by other women

uplifted and championed by other women

uplifted and championed by other women and I hope to pass that along I hope

and I hope to pass that along I hope

and I hope to pass that along I hope that women can understand that they are

that women can understand that they are

that women can understand that they are just as competent as their men

just as competent as their men

just as competent as their men counterparts and that no matter their

counterparts and that no matter their

counterparts and that no matter their size their color or whether they have

size their color or whether they have

size their color or whether they have claspers or not a shark is still shark

claspers or not a shark is still shark

claspers or not a shark is still shark don’t let the women researchers in your

don’t let the women researchers in your

don’t let the women researchers in your life be like the deep-sea sharks

life be like the deep-sea sharks

life be like the deep-sea sharks pay attention shine a light we’re here

pay attention shine a light we’re here

pay attention shine a light we’re here thank you

thank you

thank you [Applause]

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