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Same-Sex Reproduction Using Stem Cell Technology | Natasha Natarajan | TEDxUSC


hi everyone this is a blank sheet of

hi everyone this is a blank sheet of paper in the next five minutes it has

paper in the next five minutes it has

paper in the next five minutes it has the potential to become someone’s class

the potential to become someone’s class

the potential to become someone’s class notes it could be a letter to Santa it

notes it could be a letter to Santa it

notes it could be a letter to Santa it could even be the first page to the

could even be the first page to the

could even be the first page to the greatest novel ever written a stem cell

greatest novel ever written a stem cell

greatest novel ever written a stem cell is the blank page the human body its

is the blank page the human body its

is the blank page the human body its fate has limitless possibilities and its

fate has limitless possibilities and its

fate has limitless possibilities and its potential is unbounded simply put a stem

potential is unbounded simply put a stem

potential is unbounded simply put a stem cell is an undifferentiated cell that

cell is an undifferentiated cell that

cell is an undifferentiated cell that has the potential to become any other

has the potential to become any other

has the potential to become any other type of cell everyone in this audience

type of cell everyone in this audience

type of cell everyone in this audience right now you all started off as a stem

right now you all started off as a stem

right now you all started off as a stem cell and then your DNA came in did all

cell and then your DNA came in did all

cell and then your DNA came in did all the work and differentiated each groups

the work and differentiated each groups

the work and differentiated each groups of your stem cells into your muscles

of your stem cells into your muscles

of your stem cells into your muscles into your heart into your brain until we

into your heart into your brain until we

into your heart into your brain until we get the finished product you so I first

get the finished product you so I first

get the finished product you so I first got interested in stem cells when I was

got interested in stem cells when I was

got interested in stem cells when I was just a fifteen-year-old high schooler

just a fifteen-year-old high schooler

just a fifteen-year-old high schooler and my teacher gave us the opportunity

and my teacher gave us the opportunity

and my teacher gave us the opportunity to write about it of course in my mind I

to write about it of course in my mind I

to write about it of course in my mind I was like do I really want to write a

was like do I really want to write a

was like do I really want to write a paper about the cells inside the stem of

paper about the cells inside the stem of

paper about the cells inside the stem of a plant because up builds and then

a plant because up builds and then

a plant because up builds and then that’s all I thought a stem cell was but

that’s all I thought a stem cell was but

that’s all I thought a stem cell was but six years later with a college education

six years later with a college education

six years later with a college education from USC I now know that it is so much

from USC I now know that it is so much

from USC I now know that it is so much more I was reading this article the

more I was reading this article the

more I was reading this article the other day about a 21 year old college

other day about a 21 year old college

other day about a 21 year old college student not unlike myself or many of you

student not unlike myself or many of you

student not unlike myself or many of you in the audience who got a car accident

in the audience who got a car accident

in the audience who got a car accident and was paralyzed from the neck down at

and was paralyzed from the neck down at

and was paralyzed from the neck down at such a young age yet his independence to

such a young age yet his independence to

such a young age yet his independence to live stripped from them desperate for a

live stripped from them desperate for a

live stripped from them desperate for a miracle he applied to be part of a

miracle he applied to be part of a

miracle he applied to be part of a clinical trial in which doctors injected

clinical trial in which doctors injected

clinical trial in which doctors injected stem cells into his spinal cord and

stem cells into his spinal cord and

stem cells into his spinal cord and within a few months he regained motor

within a few months he regained motor

within a few months he regained motor function in his arms and hands now a

function in his arms and hands now a

function in his arms and hands now a young man who wouldn’t have been able to

young man who wouldn’t have been able to

young man who wouldn’t have been able to brush his own teeth can feed himself

brush his own teeth can feed himself

brush his own teeth can feed himself can hug his family and friends can even

can hug his family and friends can even

can hug his family and friends can even lift weights it was revolutionary there

lift weights it was revolutionary there

lift weights it was revolutionary there is all this optimism and excitement

is all this optimism and excitement

is all this optimism and excitement being funneled into stem-cell research

being funneled into stem-cell research

being funneled into stem-cell research right now because stem cells have that

right now because stem cells have that

right now because stem cells have that allure of being the elixir to all our

allure of being the elixir to all our

allure of being the elixir to all our problems

problems

problems research is being done this very second

research is being done this very second

research is being done this very second on how stem cells could treat

on how stem cells could treat

on how stem cells could treat Alzheimer’s disease Parkinson’s disease

Alzheimer’s disease Parkinson’s disease

Alzheimer’s disease Parkinson’s disease arthritis blindness cancer same-sex

arthritis blindness cancer same-sex

arthritis blindness cancer same-sex reproduction whoa hold up rewind did you

reproduction whoa hold up rewind did you

reproduction whoa hold up rewind did you just say same-sex reproduction yes I did

just say same-sex reproduction yes I did

just say same-sex reproduction yes I did the idea that we could have a child who

the idea that we could have a child who

the idea that we could have a child who genetically represents 50% of each of

genetically represents 50% of each of

genetically represents 50% of each of their same gendered parent a world where

their same gendered parent a world where

their same gendered parent a world where this baby could be a child to his

this baby could be a child to his

this baby could be a child to his parents the same way I am a child to

parents the same way I am a child to

parents the same way I am a child to mine you must be thinking how do we just

mine you must be thinking how do we just

mine you must be thinking how do we just jump from the topic of stem cells to

jump from the topic of stem cells to

jump from the topic of stem cells to same-sex couples

same-sex couples

same-sex couples well you need to understand stem cell

well you need to understand stem cell

well you need to understand stem cell biology in order to achieve that great

biology in order to achieve that great

biology in order to achieve that great feat now I know you didn’t come here for

feat now I know you didn’t come here for

feat now I know you didn’t come here for a science class but give me a chance to

a science class but give me a chance to

a science class but give me a chance to explain for all the years that we had

explain for all the years that we had

explain for all the years that we had first discovered stem cells we have come

first discovered stem cells we have come

first discovered stem cells we have come to understand that once the stem cell

to understand that once the stem cell

to understand that once the stem cell differentiates or turns into a specific

differentiates or turns into a specific

differentiates or turns into a specific kind of cell that’s it that’s the end of

kind of cell that’s it that’s the end of

kind of cell that’s it that’s the end of the story period almost in the same way

the story period almost in the same way

the story period almost in the same way is if I were to write on ink on this

is if I were to write on ink on this

is if I were to write on ink on this blank sheet of paper it is final it

blank sheet of paper it is final it

blank sheet of paper it is final it cannot go back to being a completely

cannot go back to being a completely

cannot go back to being a completely blank sheet of paper again and for a

blank sheet of paper again and for a

blank sheet of paper again and for a real long time we accepted that but as

real long time we accepted that but as

real long time we accepted that but as with all meaningful scientific research

with all meaningful scientific research

with all meaningful scientific research it’s just about asking the right

it’s just about asking the right

it’s just about asking the right questions

questions

questions ten years ago a brilliant scientist

ten years ago a brilliant scientist

ten years ago a brilliant scientist named dr. Yamanaka asked well what if we

named dr. Yamanaka asked well what if we

named dr. Yamanaka asked well what if we could go back what if I wrote this in

could go back what if I wrote this in

could go back what if I wrote this in pencil instead of pen and there’s a way

pencil instead of pen and there’s a way

pencil instead of pen and there’s a way to erase the words so that I would have

to erase the words so that I would have

to erase the words so that I would have a completely blank sheet of paper again

a completely blank sheet of paper again

a completely blank sheet of paper again cue scientists around the world having

cue scientists around the world having

cue scientists around the world having their minds blown

their minds blown

their minds blown dr. Yamanaka understood this one simple

dr. Yamanaka understood this one simple

dr. Yamanaka understood this one simple concept that just like us as humans

concept that just like us as humans

concept that just like us as humans cells are products of their environment

cells are products of their environment

cells are products of their environment so you can take any cell right now put

so you can take any cell right now put

so you can take any cell right now put it in the same medium with these

it in the same medium with these

it in the same medium with these transcription factors that are normally

transcription factors that are normally

transcription factors that are normally found on a stem cell and it changes that

found on a stem cell and it changes that

found on a stem cell and it changes that cell back into a stem cell or as we call

cell back into a stem cell or as we call

cell back into a stem cell or as we call induced pluripotent stem cells it’s like

induced pluripotent stem cells it’s like

induced pluripotent stem cells it’s like taking the last page out of your

taking the last page out of your

taking the last page out of your favorite novel erasing it completely and

favorite novel erasing it completely and

favorite novel erasing it completely and writing a brand new story in reality

writing a brand new story in reality

writing a brand new story in reality biology is so much more fluid than we

biology is so much more fluid than we

biology is so much more fluid than we teach it to be right now your muscle

teach it to be right now your muscle

teach it to be right now your muscle cells have the potential to go back to a

cells have the potential to go back to a

cells have the potential to go back to a stem cell and then turn into a heart

stem cell and then turn into a heart

stem cell and then turn into a heart cell if you wanted to a neuron can

cell if you wanted to a neuron can

cell if you wanted to a neuron can become a bone cell a skin cell can

become a bone cell a skin cell can

become a bone cell a skin cell can become an egg cell ah now we get to the

become an egg cell ah now we get to the

become an egg cell ah now we get to the good part now you have all the

good part now you have all the

good part now you have all the scientific tools you need to understand

scientific tools you need to understand

scientific tools you need to understand how same-sex reproduction works so let’s

how same-sex reproduction works so let’s

how same-sex reproduction works so let’s take this male male couple for example

take this male male couple for example

take this male male couple for example we’ll call them Jim and Bob you start

we’ll call them Jim and Bob you start

we’ll call them Jim and Bob you start out by extracting skin cells from Jim

out by extracting skin cells from Jim

out by extracting skin cells from Jim and putting it in that medium that turns

and putting it in that medium that turns

and putting it in that medium that turns it back into a stem cell and then you

it back into a stem cell and then you

it back into a stem cell and then you take these stem cells and program them

take these stem cells and program them

take these stem cells and program them into egg cells next you fertilize these

into egg cells next you fertilize these

into egg cells next you fertilize these egg cells with Bob’s sperm cells and

egg cells with Bob’s sperm cells and

egg cells with Bob’s sperm cells and finally put that fertilized embryo

finally put that fertilized embryo

finally put that fertilized embryo inside a surrogate who carries it until

inside a surrogate who carries it until

inside a surrogate who carries it until birth voila that is how two guys can

birth voila that is how two guys can

birth voila that is how two guys can have a baby together oh my god

have a baby together oh my god

have a baby together oh my god science right when I first heard about

science right when I first heard about

science right when I first heard about this I was so skeptical that a process

this I was so skeptical that a process

this I was so skeptical that a process like this could actually work but in

like this could actually work but in

like this could actually work but in these past two years an immense amount

these past two years an immense amount

these past two years an immense amount of time and Rhys

of time and Rhys

of time and Rhys has gone into this technology and how we

has gone into this technology and how we

has gone into this technology and how we can make it a reality

can make it a reality

can make it a reality don’t get me wrong there’s still a few

don’t get me wrong there’s still a few

don’t get me wrong there’s still a few more kinks to work out but this

more kinks to work out but this

more kinks to work out but this framework has been tested and supported

framework has been tested and supported

framework has been tested and supported and we are inching our way into having

and we are inching our way into having

and we are inching our way into having this actually applied in our society let

this actually applied in our society let

this actually applied in our society let me put this in perspective for you

me put this in perspective for you

me put this in perspective for you remember my blank sheet of paper and all

remember my blank sheet of paper and all

remember my blank sheet of paper and all the potential it had for the things that

the potential it had for the things that

the potential it had for the things that could be written or drawn on it well

could be written or drawn on it well

could be written or drawn on it well science is about asking the right

science is about asking the right

science is about asking the right questions dr. Yamanaka asked what if we

questions dr. Yamanaka asked what if we

questions dr. Yamanaka asked what if we could erase the words so that we could

could erase the words so that we could

could erase the words so that we could go back to the blank paper that is how

go back to the blank paper that is how

go back to the blank paper that is how we got induced pluripotent stem cells

we got induced pluripotent stem cells

we got induced pluripotent stem cells now scientists are asking well what if

now scientists are asking well what if

now scientists are asking well what if we don’t just write or draw on the paper

we don’t just write or draw on the paper

we don’t just write or draw on the paper what if we could fold it and turn it

what if we could fold it and turn it

what if we could fold it and turn it into something completely different if a

into something completely different if a

into something completely different if a stem cell is the blank page to the human

stem cell is the blank page to the human

stem cell is the blank page to the human body then using it for same-sex

body then using it for same-sex

body then using it for same-sex reproduction is like making a swan out

reproduction is like making a swan out

reproduction is like making a swan out of that piece of paper the paper is now

of that piece of paper the paper is now

of that piece of paper the paper is now being used in a manner we have never

being used in a manner we have never

being used in a manner we have never imagined it to be before when we think

imagined it to be before when we think

imagined it to be before when we think of stem cells we see it as something

of stem cells we see it as something

of stem cells we see it as something that fixes what is broken with our body

that fixes what is broken with our body

that fixes what is broken with our body however this definition or this research

however this definition or this research

however this definition or this research rejects that definition

rejects that definition

rejects that definition what if stem cells don’t just fix but

what if stem cells don’t just fix but

what if stem cells don’t just fix but instead adds to our lives so let’s add

instead adds to our lives so let’s add

instead adds to our lives so let’s add this to our society I read this article

this to our society I read this article

this to our society I read this article two years ago guess what folks its 2017

two years ago guess what folks its 2017

two years ago guess what folks its 2017 which means that this could be happening

which means that this could be happening

which means that this could be happening sooner rather than later but before you

sooner rather than later but before you

sooner rather than later but before you get too excited and jump out of your

get too excited and jump out of your

get too excited and jump out of your seats remember that no scientific

seats remember that no scientific

seats remember that no scientific advancement has gone the automatic

advancement has gone the automatic

advancement has gone the automatic greenlight without carefully exploring

greenlight without carefully exploring

greenlight without carefully exploring the moral and ethical implications of

the moral and ethical implications of

the moral and ethical implications of the situation sure this technology could

the situation sure this technology could

the situation sure this technology could be perfected by the end of 2017 but the

be perfected by the end of 2017 but the

be perfected by the end of 2017 but the implementation could take ten years

implementation could take ten years

implementation could take ten years because science is inexplicably

because science is inexplicably

because science is inexplicably connected to our social economic

connected to our social economic

connected to our social economic religious and political world while stem

religious and political world while stem

religious and political world while stem cells might answer this one question it

cells might answer this one question it

cells might answer this one question it opens up 100 new questions for debate

opens up 100 new questions for debate

opens up 100 new questions for debate like is this process too unnatural what

like is this process too unnatural what

like is this process too unnatural what would be the mental and physical state

would be the mental and physical state

would be the mental and physical state of a child coming out of this process

of a child coming out of this process

of a child coming out of this process would our government pass legislation on

would our government pass legislation on

would our government pass legislation on it the same way they did for same-sex

it the same way they did for same-sex

it the same way they did for same-sex marriage think about it

marriage think about it

marriage think about it with the people who fought same-sex

with the people who fought same-sex

with the people who fought same-sex marriage also fights same-sex

marriage also fights same-sex

marriage also fights same-sex reproduction what kind of money would

reproduction what kind of money would

reproduction what kind of money would this procedure cost and if so who would

this procedure cost and if so who would

this procedure cost and if so who would it be available to I could go on forever

it be available to I could go on forever

it be available to I could go on forever with these kinds of questions but that’s

with these kinds of questions but that’s

with these kinds of questions but that’s not what I’m here to do today I want to

not what I’m here to do today I want to

not what I’m here to do today I want to highlight the important ethical

highlight the important ethical

highlight the important ethical considerations you probably didn’t think

considerations you probably didn’t think

considerations you probably didn’t think of right away the kinds that might not

of right away the kinds that might not

of right away the kinds that might not go into effect tomorrow but have a huge

go into effect tomorrow but have a huge

go into effect tomorrow but have a huge impact down the line for example what is

impact down the line for example what is

impact down the line for example what is that fear everyone has when they hear

that fear everyone has when they hear

that fear everyone has when they hear the words stem cells research genetics

the words stem cells research genetics

the words stem cells research genetics reproduction all put together designer

reproduction all put together designer

reproduction all put together designer babies the idea that I could choose to

babies the idea that I could choose to

babies the idea that I could choose to have a child and say I want it to be a

have a child and say I want it to be a

have a child and say I want it to be a girl I want to have green eyes and this

girl I want to have green eyes and this

girl I want to have green eyes and this brown hair and this IQ and this

brown hair and this IQ and this

brown hair and this IQ and this personality a world where our future

personality a world where our future

personality a world where our future looks like the one in the movie Gattaca

looks like the one in the movie Gattaca

looks like the one in the movie Gattaca where our whole society is governed by

where our whole society is governed by

where our whole society is governed by genetics well I’m here to tell you today

genetics well I’m here to tell you today

genetics well I’m here to tell you today that using stem cells for same-sex

that using stem cells for same-sex

that using stem cells for same-sex reproduction does not all of a sudden

reproduction does not all of a sudden

reproduction does not all of a sudden allow us to have designer babies even if

allow us to have designer babies even if

allow us to have designer babies even if this whole process of conception sounds

this whole process of conception sounds

this whole process of conception sounds confusing to you at the end of the day

confusing to you at the end of the day

confusing to you at the end of the day it’s still a random sperm cell

it’s still a random sperm cell

it’s still a random sperm cell fertilizes random egg cell and we do not

fertilizes random egg cell and we do not

fertilizes random egg cell and we do not get to choose the genes or

get to choose the genes or

get to choose the genes or characteristics of the child coming out

characteristics of the child coming out

characteristics of the child coming out of it sure a society like the one in

of it sure a society like the one in

of it sure a society like the one in Gattaca won’t happen overnight

Gattaca won’t happen overnight

Gattaca won’t happen overnight but we still need to be cautious because

but we still need to be cautious because

but we still need to be cautious because it could have

it could have

it could have in progressively if we greenlight this

in progressively if we greenlight this

in progressively if we greenlight this kind of technology who’s to say we won’t

kind of technology who’s to say we won’t

kind of technology who’s to say we won’t greenlight the next one and the next one

greenlight the next one and the next one

greenlight the next one and the next one and the next one and the next one and

and the next one and the next one and

and the next one and the next one and the next one until one day we wake up

the next one until one day we wake up

the next one until one day we wake up and it’s bit Gattaca and designer babies

and it’s bit Gattaca and designer babies

and it’s bit Gattaca and designer babies everywhere in evaluating the technology

everywhere in evaluating the technology

everywhere in evaluating the technology behind same-sex reproduction we have to

behind same-sex reproduction we have to

behind same-sex reproduction we have to understand the gravity of the

understand the gravity of the

understand the gravity of the consequences this could have 20 to 30

consequences this could have 20 to 30

consequences this could have 20 to 30 years down the line

years down the line

years down the line here’s another implication you probably

here’s another implication you probably

here’s another implication you probably didn’t think of remember Jim and Bob

didn’t think of remember Jim and Bob

didn’t think of remember Jim and Bob well what if this was Sue and Mary what

well what if this was Sue and Mary what

well what if this was Sue and Mary what if we had a female female couple the

if we had a female female couple the

if we had a female female couple the science behind it would still be the

science behind it would still be the

science behind it would still be the same you take the skin cells of Sue turn

same you take the skin cells of Sue turn

same you take the skin cells of Sue turn it back into a stem cell and then turn

it back into a stem cell and then turn

it back into a stem cell and then turn that into a sperm cell you take two

that into a sperm cell you take two

that into a sperm cell you take two sperm cells Mary’s egg cells and here’s

sperm cells Mary’s egg cells and here’s

sperm cells Mary’s egg cells and here’s the best part about two women you don’t

the best part about two women you don’t

the best part about two women you don’t even need a surrogate either sue or Mary

even need a surrogate either sue or Mary

even need a surrogate either sue or Mary could carry the child so then what’s the

could carry the child so then what’s the

could carry the child so then what’s the catch the key difference is that two men

catch the key difference is that two men

catch the key difference is that two men have both an X and Y chromosome they

have both an X and Y chromosome they

have both an X and Y chromosome they could conceive either boys or girls

could conceive either boys or girls

could conceive either boys or girls however two women have only X

however two women have only X

however two women have only X chromosomes they could conceive only

chromosomes they could conceive only

chromosomes they could conceive only girls let that sink in for a second this

girls let that sink in for a second this

girls let that sink in for a second this would not be the same situation as

would not be the same situation as

would not be the same situation as designer babies two women would not be

designer babies two women would not be

designer babies two women would not be choosing to have only girls that would

choosing to have only girls that would

choosing to have only girls that would be the only choice they have science

be the only choice they have science

be the only choice they have science might allow us to find a way to have two

might allow us to find a way to have two

might allow us to find a way to have two people of the same gender have a baby

people of the same gender have a baby

people of the same gender have a baby together but we do not yet have a way to

together but we do not yet have a way to

together but we do not yet have a way to create a synthetic Y chromosome so X’s

create a synthetic Y chromosome so X’s

create a synthetic Y chromosome so X’s are all we got now for up to me I mean I

are all we got now for up to me I mean I

are all we got now for up to me I mean I wouldn’t mind having a few more females

wouldn’t mind having a few more females

wouldn’t mind having a few more females in this world am i right

in this world am i right

in this world am i right but ultimately this would be a form of

but ultimately this would be a form of

but ultimately this would be a form of gender control up until now our whole

gender control up until now our whole

gender control up until now our whole society has been ruining the fact that

society has been ruining the fact that

society has been ruining the fact that every one of our genders is here because

every one of our genders is here because

every one of our genders is here because of chance I am a woman today not because

of chance I am a woman today not because

of chance I am a woman today not because my parents specifically chose me to be

my parents specifically chose me to be

my parents specifically chose me to be but because that’s just how the dice

but because that’s just how the dice

but because that’s just how the dice rolled with same-sex reproduction we now

rolled with same-sex reproduction we now

rolled with same-sex reproduction we now have a way to control for gender we have

have a way to control for gender we have

have a way to control for gender we have never encountered before

never encountered before

never encountered before it’s like tipping the scale and a

it’s like tipping the scale and a

it’s like tipping the scale and a balance that up until now we thought to

balance that up until now we thought to

balance that up until now we thought to be fairly even some people may argue

be fairly even some people may argue

be fairly even some people may argue that this is enough reason to completely

that this is enough reason to completely

that this is enough reason to completely stop same-sex reproduction in its tracks

stop same-sex reproduction in its tracks

stop same-sex reproduction in its tracks or at least restrict it from lesbian

or at least restrict it from lesbian

or at least restrict it from lesbian couples but is that really fair is a

couples but is that really fair is a

couples but is that really fair is a prospect of a few extra females enough

prospect of a few extra females enough

prospect of a few extra females enough reason to make this unavailable to

reason to make this unavailable to

reason to make this unavailable to lesbian couples something I’ve not

lesbian couples something I’ve not

lesbian couples something I’ve not shared with you all yet is that one of

shared with you all yet is that one of

shared with you all yet is that one of the reasons I was so attracted to this

the reasons I was so attracted to this

the reasons I was so attracted to this research is because my sister is gay and

research is because my sister is gay and

research is because my sister is gay and I love my sister all I want for in the

I love my sister all I want for in the

I love my sister all I want for in the world is to be able to have kids of her

world is to be able to have kids of her

world is to be able to have kids of her own I can look at my partner today and

own I can look at my partner today and

own I can look at my partner today and be so excited at the prospect of having

be so excited at the prospect of having

be so excited at the prospect of having kids with them our kids would be a

kids with them our kids would be a

kids with them our kids would be a unique blend of the two of us his eyes

unique blend of the two of us his eyes

unique blend of the two of us his eyes my hair his intelligence my fav but that

my hair his intelligence my fav but that

my hair his intelligence my fav but that chance

chance

chance to have children together is a privilege

to have children together is a privilege

to have children together is a privilege it is something that not everyone in

it is something that not everyone in

it is something that not everyone in this world not even everyone in this

this world not even everyone in this

this world not even everyone in this room right now gets to experience I hope

room right now gets to experience I hope

room right now gets to experience I hope that one day my sister can feel that

that one day my sister can feel that

that one day my sister can feel that same excitement by looking at her

same excitement by looking at her

same excitement by looking at her partner and having a child together that

partner and having a child together that

partner and having a child together that represents the both of them here’s the

represents the both of them here’s the

represents the both of them here’s the thing we are living in exciting times

thing we are living in exciting times

thing we are living in exciting times just two years ago same-sex marriage

just two years ago same-sex marriage

just two years ago same-sex marriage Supreme Court and in two years we

Supreme Court and in two years we

Supreme Court and in two years we figured out how to turn a stem cell into

figured out how to turn a stem cell into

figured out how to turn a stem cell into an egg cell up until now we have seen

an egg cell up until now we have seen

an egg cell up until now we have seen science and social advocacy as two

science and social advocacy as two

science and social advocacy as two completely separate arenas but now we

completely separate arenas but now we

completely separate arenas but now we have a beautiful opportunity to see a

have a beautiful opportunity to see a

have a beautiful opportunity to see a union of the two stem cells can serve as

union of the two stem cells can serve as

union of the two stem cells can serve as a treatment to diseases and illnesses

a treatment to diseases and illnesses

a treatment to diseases and illnesses but can also act as an advocate to LGBTQ

but can also act as an advocate to LGBTQ

but can also act as an advocate to LGBTQ rights but before it can do any of that

rights but before it can do any of that

rights but before it can do any of that we as a society have to look at this

we as a society have to look at this

we as a society have to look at this technology behind same-sex reproduction

technology behind same-sex reproduction

technology behind same-sex reproduction and ask where do we draw the line with

and ask where do we draw the line with

and ask where do we draw the line with ethical science what is right and what

ethical science what is right and what

ethical science what is right and what is wrong are the reasons behind same-sex

is wrong are the reasons behind same-sex

is wrong are the reasons behind same-sex reproduction compelling enough to move

reproduction compelling enough to move

reproduction compelling enough to move forward with this research or should we

forward with this research or should we

forward with this research or should we stop it in its tracks before it goes any

stop it in its tracks before it goes any

stop it in its tracks before it goes any further the inescapable truth is that

further the inescapable truth is that

further the inescapable truth is that while scientists may wheel the

while scientists may wheel the

while scientists may wheel the technology only you have the power to

technology only you have the power to

technology only you have the power to implement it I guarantee you in a few

implement it I guarantee you in a few

implement it I guarantee you in a few years time you will find yourself

years time you will find yourself

years time you will find yourself sitting in front of a ballot

sitting in front of a ballot

sitting in front of a ballot contemplating legislation on same-sex

contemplating legislation on same-sex

contemplating legislation on same-sex marriage only you can answer that

marriage only you can answer that

marriage only you can answer that question so choose wisely thank you

question so choose wisely thank you

question so choose wisely thank you [Applause]

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