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RISK- CITIES MUST ROLL THE DICE TO WIN | Stephen J. Wukela | TEDxEvansStreet


I want to talk today a little bit about

I want to talk today a little bit about the value of risk and how cities

the value of risk and how cities

the value of risk and how cities struggle when they fail to calculate the

struggle when they fail to calculate the

struggle when they fail to calculate the value of risk now the value of risk may

value of risk now the value of risk may

value of risk now the value of risk may be a strange concept but it’s one that’s

be a strange concept but it’s one that’s

be a strange concept but it’s one that’s fairly easy to understand in pretty

fairly easy to understand in pretty

fairly easy to understand in pretty simplistic mathematical terms let’s have

simplistic mathematical terms let’s have

simplistic mathematical terms let’s have a coin toss if it’s heads you get $0 if

a coin toss if it’s heads you get $0 if

a coin toss if it’s heads you get $0 if its tail’s you get $200 the value of

its tail’s you get $200 the value of

its tail’s you get $200 the value of that risk is $100 if you toss that coin

that risk is $100 if you toss that coin

that risk is $100 if you toss that coin a hundred times on average you’ll get

a hundred times on average you’ll get

a hundred times on average you’ll get $100 a toss fairly easy to understand

$100 a toss fairly easy to understand

$100 a toss fairly easy to understand the concept of the value of risk but as

the concept of the value of risk but as

the concept of the value of risk but as it turns out

it turns out

it turns out human beings have a lot of difficulty

human beings have a lot of difficulty

human beings have a lot of difficulty with that concept intuitively it’s it’s

with that concept intuitively it’s it’s

with that concept intuitively it’s it’s unnatural for humans and humans are

unnatural for humans and humans are

unnatural for humans and humans are naturally risk-averse so if you ask a

naturally risk-averse so if you ask a

naturally risk-averse so if you ask a human being I’m going to give you a

human being I’m going to give you a

human being I’m going to give you a choice a guarantee of $100 or a coin

choice a guarantee of $100 or a coin

choice a guarantee of $100 or a coin toss for 0 or $200 and variably people

toss for 0 or $200 and variably people

toss for 0 or $200 and variably people choose to guarantee hundred dollars even

choose to guarantee hundred dollars even

choose to guarantee hundred dollars even though the two have exactly the same

though the two have exactly the same

though the two have exactly the same value and in fact what psychologists

value and in fact what psychologists

value and in fact what psychologists have found is that they will choose the

have found is that they will choose the

have found is that they will choose the guaranteed choice even if the other

guaranteed choice even if the other

guaranteed choice even if the other choice has a higher value so if you tell

choice has a higher value so if you tell

choice has a higher value so if you tell a human I’ll give you a guarantee of 75

a human I’ll give you a guarantee of 75

a human I’ll give you a guarantee of 75 dollars or fifty dollars versus a coin

dollars or fifty dollars versus a coin

dollars or fifty dollars versus a coin toss that has an expected value of a

toss that has an expected value of a

toss that has an expected value of a hundred dollars they’ll take the 75 or

hundred dollars they’ll take the 75 or

hundred dollars they’ll take the 75 or fifty dollars because humans intuitively

fifty dollars because humans intuitively

fifty dollars because humans intuitively are risk averse and intuitively want to

are risk averse and intuitively want to

are risk averse and intuitively want to take the guaranteed choice now this is a

take the guaranteed choice now this is a

take the guaranteed choice now this is a problem for organizations of humans and

problem for organizations of humans and

problem for organizations of humans and particularly it’s a problem for cities

particularly it’s a problem for cities

particularly it’s a problem for cities because of course cities are nothing

because of course cities are nothing

because of course cities are nothing more than a group of humans who are

more than a group of humans who are

more than a group of humans who are making decisions often based on

making decisions often based on

making decisions often based on intuition and so

intuition and so

intuition and so it’s also a further problem for cities

it’s also a further problem for cities

it’s also a further problem for cities because cities in order to be successful

because cities in order to be successful

because cities in order to be successful in order to not fail must embrace risk

in order to not fail must embrace risk

in order to not fail must embrace risk must be progressive see cities are

must be progressive see cities are

must be progressive see cities are optional you can live in the United

optional you can live in the United

optional you can live in the United States and you must live in a state and

States and you must live in a state and

States and you must live in a state and you must be subject to the United States

you must be subject to the United States

you must be subject to the United States but you don’t have to live in the city

but you don’t have to live in the city

but you don’t have to live in the city cities are optional and still even

cities are optional and still even

cities are optional and still even though living in a city means a higher

though living in a city means a higher

though living in a city means a higher level of regulation a higher level of

level of regulation a higher level of

level of regulation a higher level of laws that you’re subject to another

laws that you’re subject to another

laws that you’re subject to another layer of government more taxes more fees

layer of government more taxes more fees

layer of government more taxes more fees and and so forth something like sixty

and and so forth something like sixty

and and so forth something like sixty plus percent of Americans make the

plus percent of Americans make the

plus percent of Americans make the affirmative choice to live in cities and

affirmative choice to live in cities and

affirmative choice to live in cities and to make themselves subject to additional

to make themselves subject to additional

to make themselves subject to additional taxes and additional fees and additional

taxes and additional fees and additional

taxes and additional fees and additional layers of government cities are optional

layers of government cities are optional

layers of government cities are optional but a lot of people make that choice and

but a lot of people make that choice and

but a lot of people make that choice and so why do they make the choice well they

so why do they make the choice well they

so why do they make the choice well they make the choice simply because cities

make the choice simply because cities

make the choice simply because cities provide things or should provide things

provide things or should provide things

provide things or should provide things the people can’t get otherwise right

the people can’t get otherwise right

the people can’t get otherwise right people want restaurants and bars and

people want restaurants and bars and

people want restaurants and bars and theaters and forming art centers and

theaters and forming art centers and

theaters and forming art centers and shops and in order to get those things

shops and in order to get those things

shops and in order to get those things they move to cities in order to be

they move to cities in order to be

they move to cities in order to be successful and to not fail and cities

successful and to not fail and cities

successful and to not fail and cities can fail they have to provide those

can fail they have to provide those

can fail they have to provide those things and those things are exceedingly

things and those things are exceedingly

things and those things are exceedingly expensive they can’t provide them on

expensive they can’t provide them on

expensive they can’t provide them on their own so in order to provide them

their own so in order to provide them

their own so in order to provide them they have to enter into partnerships

they have to enter into partnerships

they have to enter into partnerships with public and private nonprofit

with public and private nonprofit

with public and private nonprofit organizations and they have to engage in

organizations and they have to engage in

organizations and they have to engage in risk they have to be progressive the

risk they have to be progressive the

risk they have to be progressive the concept of the government that governs

concept of the government that governs

concept of the government that governs best governs least does not apply to a

best governs least does not apply to a

best governs least does not apply to a city because if you want government not

city because if you want government not

city because if you want government not to do anything you can move out to the

to do anything you can move out to the

to do anything you can move out to the county and get yourself a septic tank

county and get yourself a septic tank

county and get yourself a septic tank and it well and be free of the city but

and it well and be free of the city but

and it well and be free of the city but if you want government to do something

if you want government to do something

if you want government to do something and provide something you’re willing to

and provide something you’re willing to

and provide something you’re willing to move to the city and you’re willing to

move to the city and you’re willing to

move to the city and you’re willing to take that additional cost and those

take that additional cost and those

take that additional cost and those additional rules of zoning and

additional rules of zoning and

additional rules of zoning and regulations of land use and and

regulations of land use and and

regulations of land use and and additional taxes in order to get the

additional taxes in order to get the

additional taxes in order to get the things that cities

things that cities

things that cities provide and in order to provide those

provide and in order to provide those

provide and in order to provide those things back to where we started

things back to where we started

things back to where we started cities must take risks but as I said so

cities must take risks but as I said so

cities must take risks but as I said so these are made up of humans and humans

these are made up of humans and humans

these are made up of humans and humans are risk averse intuitively risk averse

are risk averse intuitively risk averse

are risk averse intuitively risk averse and so you see the dilemma now a case in

and so you see the dilemma now a case in

and so you see the dilemma now a case in point we’re here and my beloved city of

point we’re here and my beloved city of

point we’re here and my beloved city of Florence South Carolina see if Lawrence

Florence South Carolina see if Lawrence

Florence South Carolina see if Lawrence is a great city within the urban area of

is a great city within the urban area of

is a great city within the urban area of about 90,000 plus people and over the

about 90,000 plus people and over the

about 90,000 plus people and over the last several decades like many southern

last several decades like many southern

last several decades like many southern cities Florence saw a deterioration of

cities Florence saw a deterioration of

cities Florence saw a deterioration of its downtown downtown we’re standing and

its downtown downtown we’re standing and

its downtown downtown we’re standing and sitting in today and that downtown over

sitting in today and that downtown over

sitting in today and that downtown over the years because of economic factors

the years because of economic factors

the years because of economic factors that affected cities in the south and

that affected cities in the south and

that affected cities in the south and everywhere probably in the country the

everywhere probably in the country the

everywhere probably in the country the mall was built highways connected people

mall was built highways connected people

mall was built highways connected people left cities they moved to suburban areas

left cities they moved to suburban areas

left cities they moved to suburban areas they stopped going to the downtown and

they stopped going to the downtown and

they stopped going to the downtown and when they stopped going to the downtown

when they stopped going to the downtown

when they stopped going to the downtown it became decrepit became boarded up him

it became decrepit became boarded up him

it became decrepit became boarded up him abandoned it smelled of mold and that

abandoned it smelled of mold and that

abandoned it smelled of mold and that grano and it wasn’t somewhere people

grano and it wasn’t somewhere people

grano and it wasn’t somewhere people went and as a result the city failed

went and as a result the city failed

went and as a result the city failed failed to provide those things that

failed to provide those things that

failed to provide those things that attract people to the city and about

attract people to the city and about

attract people to the city and about five years ago city was presented with

five years ago city was presented with

five years ago city was presented with an opportunity where a set of developers

an opportunity where a set of developers

an opportunity where a set of developers were interested in building in downtown

were interested in building in downtown

were interested in building in downtown Florence among the boarded up buildings

Florence among the boarded up buildings

Florence among the boarded up buildings I knew boutique hotel with a new fine

I knew boutique hotel with a new fine

I knew boutique hotel with a new fine restaurant and they wanted to spend five

restaurant and they wanted to spend five

restaurant and they wanted to spend five to seven million dollars but they

to seven million dollars but they

to seven million dollars but they calculated how much revenue those hotel

calculated how much revenue those hotel

calculated how much revenue those hotel rooms would generate how much revenue

rooms would generate how much revenue

rooms would generate how much revenue the restaurant would generate calculated

the restaurant would generate calculated

the restaurant would generate calculated the cost of refurbishing an old building

the cost of refurbishing an old building

the cost of refurbishing an old building that they were going to go into and when

that they were going to go into and when

that they were going to go into and when they calculate the cost and they

they calculate the cost and they

they calculate the cost and they calculated the revenue they came up

calculated the revenue they came up

calculated the revenue they came up about 15 to 20 percent short they needed

about 15 to 20 percent short they needed

about 15 to 20 percent short they needed the city to mitigate that risk which

the city to mitigate that risk which

the city to mitigate that risk which amounted to be about a million dollars

amounted to be about a million dollars

amounted to be about a million dollars so they came to the city and they said

so they came to the city and they said

so they came to the city and they said you help us now the natural human

you help us now the natural human

you help us now the natural human intuition is you must be out of your

intuition is you must be out of your

intuition is you must be out of your ever-loving mind you want us you want

ever-loving mind you want us you want

ever-loving mind you want us you want this politician right to spend a million

this politician right to spend a million

this politician right to spend a million dollars of city taxpayer revenue on a

dollars of city taxpayer revenue on a

dollars of city taxpayer revenue on a hotel on Evan Street which is surrounded

hotel on Evan Street which is surrounded

hotel on Evan Street which is surrounded by deterioration and neglect and

by deterioration and neglect and

by deterioration and neglect and surrounded by a downtown that has

surrounded by a downtown that has

surrounded by a downtown that has repeated history of failures and

repeated history of failures and

repeated history of failures and everybody in town expects another

everybody in town expects another

everybody in town expects another failure you want us to take that risk

failure you want us to take that risk

failure you want us to take that risk are you crazy

are you crazy

are you crazy but we didn’t submit to that intuition

but we didn’t submit to that intuition

but we didn’t submit to that intuition it was there certainly it was there but

it was there certainly it was there but

it was there certainly it was there but we didn’t submit to it and instead what

we didn’t submit to it and instead what

we didn’t submit to it and instead what we did is we did some math and as it

we did is we did some math and as it

we did is we did some math and as it turns out as with the coin toss of 0 and

turns out as with the coin toss of 0 and

turns out as with the coin toss of 0 and $200

$200

$200 math is the answer to incorrect

math is the answer to incorrect

math is the answer to incorrect intuition right it’s pretty simple math

intuition right it’s pretty simple math

intuition right it’s pretty simple math to calculate you toss the coin 100 times

to calculate you toss the coin 100 times

to calculate you toss the coin 100 times your expected value is $100 and it can

your expected value is $100 and it can

your expected value is $100 and it can free quickly if you pay attention to it

free quickly if you pay attention to it

free quickly if you pay attention to it overcome your incorrect intuition so we

overcome your incorrect intuition so we

overcome your incorrect intuition so we started doing the math and what did the

started doing the math and what did the

started doing the math and what did the math show us

math show us

math show us well the building that we’re going to go

well the building that we’re going to go

well the building that we’re going to go into was producing an annual property

into was producing an annual property

into was producing an annual property tax revenue of about 500 bucks a year

tax revenue of about 500 bucks a year

tax revenue of about 500 bucks a year that’s the kind of condition it was in

that’s the kind of condition it was in

that’s the kind of condition it was in they were going to spin it somewhere

they were going to spin it somewhere

they were going to spin it somewhere between five and seven million dollars

between five and seven million dollars

between five and seven million dollars resulting in a property tax increase

resulting in a property tax increase

resulting in a property tax increase from $500 a year to about $100,000 here

from $500 a year to about $100,000 here

from $500 a year to about $100,000 here and we could rebate 85% of that revenue

and we could rebate 85% of that revenue

and we could rebate 85% of that revenue to them generate for them over the

to them generate for them over the

to them generate for them over the course of about seven years six hundred

course of about seven years six hundred

course of about seven years six hundred thousand dollars and still see an

thousand dollars and still see an

thousand dollars and still see an increase in our property tax from five

increase in our property tax from five

increase in our property tax from five hundred dollars to fifteen thousand

hundred dollars to fifteen thousand

hundred dollars to fifteen thousand dollars even if the project failed I

dollars even if the project failed I

dollars even if the project failed I mean if they built it they’d pay the

mean if they built it they’d pay the

mean if they built it they’d pay the property tax even if the hotel failed

property tax even if the hotel failed

property tax even if the hotel failed and they never had a single customer

and they never had a single customer

and they never had a single customer that revenue would still be there for

that revenue would still be there for

that revenue would still be there for the city

the city

the city and they were going to have a hotel

and they were going to have a hotel

and they were going to have a hotel which means they were going to spend a

which means they were going to spend a

which means they were going to spend a significant amount of water and sewer

significant amount of water and sewer

significant amount of water and sewer now it’s not unusual if a if the hotel

now it’s not unusual if a if the hotel

now it’s not unusual if a if the hotel was going to build on the edge of town

was going to build on the edge of town

was going to build on the edge of town and they want us to extend water and

and they want us to extend water and

and they want us to extend water and sewer lines we could calculate pretty

sewer lines we could calculate pretty

sewer lines we could calculate pretty effectively how much the water and sewer

effectively how much the water and sewer

effectively how much the water and sewer line extension would cost the city how

line extension would cost the city how

line extension would cost the city how much revenue would be generated by the

much revenue would be generated by the

much revenue would be generated by the water and sewer usage from the customer

water and sewer usage from the customer

water and sewer usage from the customer if those numbers come to one to one we

if those numbers come to one to one we

if those numbers come to one to one we do it every day well we can calculate

do it every day well we can calculate

do it every day well we can calculate with pretty convincing accuracy how much

with pretty convincing accuracy how much

with pretty convincing accuracy how much water and sewer revenue would be

water and sewer revenue would be

water and sewer revenue would be generated by that hotel and so we did

generated by that hotel and so we did

generated by that hotel and so we did and it was well over the amount of

and it was well over the amount of

and it was well over the amount of expenditure they were expecting from us

expenditure they were expecting from us

expenditure they were expecting from us and even like I said if they never

and even like I said if they never

and even like I said if they never generated water and sewer revenue but

generated water and sewer revenue but

generated water and sewer revenue but still you had the property taxes that

still you had the property taxes that

still you had the property taxes that would be generated over the years and we

would be generated over the years and we

would be generated over the years and we would very quickly recoup our expense

would very quickly recoup our expense

would very quickly recoup our expense the risk was very effectively minimal

the risk was very effectively minimal

the risk was very effectively minimal the result if successful indirect

the result if successful indirect

the result if successful indirect financial terms was strong but

financial terms was strong but

financial terms was strong but ineffective the community was even

ineffective the community was even

ineffective the community was even stronger and in effect we made the I

stronger and in effect we made the I

stronger and in effect we made the I think right decision we calculated the

think right decision we calculated the

think right decision we calculated the risk we took the risk and in the seven

risk we took the risk and in the seven

risk we took the risk and in the seven five seven years since there’s been

five seven years since there’s been

five seven years since there’s been nearly two hundred million dollars

nearly two hundred million dollars

nearly two hundred million dollars expended and the two or three block area

expended and the two or three block area

expended and the two or three block area surrounding that hotel including the

surrounding that hotel including the

surrounding that hotel including the little theater today so I think the

little theater today so I think the

little theater today so I think the moral the story is we do a disservice to

moral the story is we do a disservice to

moral the story is we do a disservice to ourselves sometimes when we listen to

ourselves sometimes when we listen to

ourselves sometimes when we listen to our intuition and don’t do the math we

our intuition and don’t do the math we

our intuition and don’t do the math we miss value risk and if a city is going

miss value risk and if a city is going

miss value risk and if a city is going to be successful we have to value risk

to be successful we have to value risk

to be successful we have to value risk correctly and engage in it and it’s my

correctly and engage in it and it’s my

correctly and engage in it and it’s my hope and dream that we’ll continue to do

hope and dream that we’ll continue to do

hope and dream that we’ll continue to do so thank you for your time today

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