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Revenu universel, pour en finir avec la pauvreté | Gaspard Koenig | TEDxIssylesMoulineaux


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the question was next we are

in a country where there are 700 billion

social spending some say 15%

of the world pipe and yet report

after report poverty does not

that increase and we all meet

days more and more on the street in

the subway people who have a sign

with Marc and I’m hungry so my question

is very simple but where did

all this money you have if the curve

exponential expenditure of

social benefits and next

someone who has the good idea of ​​not

we piss off with his accordion but

who needs money to survive

so where did the money go and well he

has gone through the workings of a

extremely bureaucratic machine

complex built with a lot of

good intentions decade after

decade and that overlays different

allocation device and like

always with his complex machines

you have insiders who know her

very well that they benefit from it largely

and you have d outsider who are

totally left out

to give you an idea to manage

today the 90 billion

basic benefits it takes 18000

rules of law is the minima

social in France today that’s it

and again it’s the small part

emerged from the iceberg

so the more fundamental question more

philosophical in a sense that’s why

we built that we built that

because this dead system is based

about the identity of people it takes

define who they are what are their

needs

what are their aspirations

what is their life as a couple and who says

identity says verification that says

verification says control that says

control 10 unfairness today for

collect the minimum of the minimum

the rsa which about for the rsa plinth

500 euros you have to go to spend

coffee talks

coffees are crates

Family Allowances

what does that tell you all about

the extent of paternalism that governs

our social system

today when you ask for the rsa

you have to fill out a form of ten

pages that makes that between a third and

two-thirds of his beneficiaries

potential does not demand it you have to

pass interviews that can be

particularly humiliating discriminant

you are labeled as poor then

then we can give you too much

arias lawsuits for a rsa like

sleeping pills if that’s if you’re

in family if the asahi familyize for

ask you to return some of it

can even go and check that you

are still even more of

expected trial for one of the rsa or on

will check whether or not there are two

toothbrushes in the same glass this

which is to say that people do not

are not only to the tenants but

truly in short couple this is a

intrusive system

do we all live we take

with the bureaucracy every day the

people in trouble live it

all the more is all the more badly

so as always when there is a

society problem the poets the

poets of the time seize it in

the recently virginie occurrence

despentes and ken loach in his last

novel vernon subutex first volume

virginia despentes describes the long

descent into hell of the victim

perfect of our time vernon subutex

vernon subutex record stores ruminate so

by the eruption of the digital

not entitled to a certain number

benefits because it’s a

independent an entrepreneur who stands

finally found at rsa and loses

one day the rsa because at random a

conversation with his coffee advisor

he let slip that yes he he

was going to see a concert with

this money and so they do they have they

were not necessarily in research

job

today to collect the rsa is a

number of conditionalities if

you do not fill in you can in

be excluded what happens to vernon

I add that if you resume a job

and that you are heated ruber during

two months you lose the benefit of the

it will be necessary to recommend them

the other ken loach just out on

French screens his movie me

daniel blake who in another context

and in another country described little

near the same thing was not the word

of gold in Cannes last year and I

offers you to see an excerpt ok

sorry when you play apart the fact

that they have the accent of newcastle it’s

a very talking movie and who you

shows how much people are

treated as children then the

solution that can be proposed for

to remedy these phenomena

it’s the universal income for the

define in an extremely simple way

it’s about each person’s data

18 years old at death

a sum of money that allow him to

survive unconditionally

without control and without any

counterpart this sum is determined

as the sum that allows you to

to survive with dignity in a society

given to each member

of society then we will ask

maybe she on what grounds

philosophical one can defend a

baroque idea there are many

I propose you two because this

are two characters of the same

era who both participated

to the French revolution the first

the disheveled left is gracchus

babeuf egalitarianism

whoever wanted not only a

minimum income is also an income

maximum and that preferably they

coincident

this is the version that still exists

today the collectivist version the

socialist version of the basic income

and then you have to right thomas spain

you see that he looks much more

nice

thomas spain and let’s say a liberal but

he has a very interesting course

it’s a British interested in the

declaration of human rights in

france having responded to burke who the

criticized emigrated to the united states

where he participated in the revolution

American which he is sometimes

considered one of the fathers

founders and then a refugee

France where this time he will participate

to the French Revolution

to the point of being the first foreigner

naturalized French elected to

the national assembly in 1792 and thomas

spain conceptualizing agrarian justice

the lineaments of a universal income

as we hear it today and what

is interesting is that his double

Anglo Saxon and French culture makes

that he seeks to reconcile rousseau

and Rousseau locke he retains the idea

that at the beginning in the state of nature and

there is some equality between

men equality vis-à-vis

natural resources and that we have

this shared legacy and that the

inequalities from this point of view there are

a form of injustice compared to

this primordial equality

but ocs he retains the idea that

enrichment the transformation the

transformation of nature into value

product valuation

the ability to create attach

property by the property is all to

commendable and allows the progress of

civilization and so it’s for

reconcile the two he proposes his

universal income saying we’re going

compensate you for the loss of your

natural heritage and like this legacy

is the same for all and well this

sum will be the same for all and he has

a sentence that I find sums up very

well his philosophy

I do not care if some become

very rich as long as no one

becomes poor as a result so

that this income will no longer be considered

as a charity but as a right

a right that says he will complete

the declaration of human rights and

of the citizen then you are entitled to

tell me today is a little

Utopian

first I would like to clarify that I

hate utopias I recommend you

to read moreover the first of its kind

the dead thomasz utopia which is a

real hell or the length of the streets

is determined by the state and where the

everyone’s activities are controlled

to their loan a utopia is always

the fantasy of someone imposing on

rest of society

the universal income is not a utopia

first because it does not solve it does not

offers no overall plans do not

offers no vision the society he does not

offers no common values that’s

just the opposite it gives everyone the

possibility by giving it its minimum

of autonomy to determine one’s own

life choices to determine one’s own

definition of good life

in a sense society with income

universal reaches such point of

sophistication that she gives the

opportunity for its members to in

subtract and secondly it’s not

a utopia

because today in France it is

very realistic and I will go back a

little in the details of the numbers it is

very realistic because we have

accumulated so many benefits we

have a system so much

redistributive than pass to income

universal that would change the pipes

but that would not change the mass of

financial transfers that will not provoke

no economic upheaval in the

country

it would only change marginally

money that people perceive or

they pay in the form of taxes that’s

very well explained by lionel stoléru

who is the advocate of universal income

since the 70’s that he had

imported from united states water friedman

had brought it up to date

and if you talk is the streets there you

will say that the long series of big

social reforms rmi ni bpe rsa prime

of activity goes in the direction of the income

universal which is the culmination

logic of this series so the

conditions are there what

would it look like we worked

with economists who modeled

all this is so I will spend very

quickly on the detail can you

give the conclusion the conclusion it’s

that you could have a cost

constant a universal income which is a

kind of super rsa

again it’s not the moon that does not

not solve all the problems but if

you make a universal income of 500

euros the equivalent of rsa today

putting aside so a housing

universal income that covers the needs

consumption current consumption

food housing energy

telecommunications transport you

evaluate it at 500 euros

you must for him funded by a

tax that substitute him for

income tax of 25 % on

the whole income not nothing anything from

even

and you have a diagram where in fact

it’s 500 euros allocated so to

each individual every month take the

form of a tax credit and then you

have to compensate to finance this

system for it to be balanced

this income tax at 25%

and everyone makes the difference at the end

of the month between the tax he owes on 25

% and the tax credit that is due to him

the 500 euros so that if you

hit 0 well you hit the 500

euros in cash

and there you are free to use them

in the way you want without

be accountable to anyone and without

have to ask them knowing that

it’s a right not everyone benefits so

you owe 1 million taxes you do not

will need more than 999 1500 and all cases

intermediaries are possible so if

you must if you touch for example

1000 euros well you have to pay 250

of taxes and you will have your credit

tax of 500 and so you will touch

in the end of 150 more so it’s a

system in which as always there

in who pays

there are some who receive but simply

was done on a much more

fair

hence the next question

legitimate why madam that everyone

can recognize should she touched

universal income

I would say first of all that’s what he

will survive when his daughter he

will be all pique but joke apart

you see that universal income

and in something you see

every month on your income sheet

or even besides on your taxes

even if you do not benefit

directly because the amount of

taxes and well beyond the amount of the

tax credit is something that

stay with you all your life

so that the anxiety of the great

poverty disappears and often when

I expose this system I have reactions

of people at rsa who tell me for

me your system would not change

great thing economically speaking

financially but that would change everything

in my life because I will stop

to be a professional supplicant

I will have stability and

visibility on the money I receive

and I could do something

more interesting of my life than to go

in the caf it’s no system extremely

virtuous because first it eliminates

automatically and radically

great poverty never again do you

will see someone a legal resident on

the territory

no sign I’m hungry impossible

secondly it simplifies so

extremely egalitarian and simple

transparent

the rental system on one side and

taxes the other third it

allows work to always pay

since in such a system

as soon as you earn more and well your

benefits decrease by 75% per euro

finally win it allows that all the

world pay taxes were

virtually

everyone gets but everyone contributes and

I would add that it is particularly

well adapted a post post world said

salary where people can exercise

a plurality of different activities

and so whose incomes are

discontinuous from month to month this is a

safety net that adjusts

immediate way in real time to the

disparity in the incomes of individuals

for despite that there are things that I

did not talk to you I did not talk to you

talked about the end of the work of the

collaborative robotization of the common and

so

some techies bottom of the argument

of universal income on the idea that we

let’s get an annuity on the robots

it’s all very nice but we did not

need this thinking to pass

to universal income because income

universal

it can be here and now in

France in 2017

Thank you

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