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Prevent accidents, train non-technical skills | Rhona Flin | TEDxDenHelder


have you made an error today I have we

have you made an error today I have we make lots of errors we make errors every

make lots of errors we make errors every

make lots of errors we make errors every day and psychologists like me are

day and psychologists like me are

day and psychologists like me are interested in errors and understanding

interested in errors and understanding

interested in errors and understanding where they come from the psychologist

where they come from the psychologist

where they come from the psychologist James reason asked people to keep

James reason asked people to keep

James reason asked people to keep Diaries of their errors and my favorite

Diaries of their errors and my favorite

Diaries of their errors and my favorite example from his work was a woman who is

example from his work was a woman who is

example from his work was a woman who is rushing out to work in the morning a

rushing out to work in the morning a

rushing out to work in the morning a very good way to make errors rushing and

very good way to make errors rushing and

very good way to make errors rushing and she had her earrings in one hand and she

she had her earrings in one hand and she

she had her earrings in one hand and she had the dog biscuits in the other and

had the dog biscuits in the other and

had the dog biscuits in the other and she fed the dog and the next thing she

she fed the dog and the next thing she

she fed the dog and the next thing she is at the mirror trying to attach to dog

is at the mirror trying to attach to dog

is at the mirror trying to attach to dog biscuits to her ears not very good for

biscuits to her ears not very good for

biscuits to her ears not very good for the earrings not great for the dog but

the earrings not great for the dog but

the earrings not great for the dog but not a major disaster but we can make

not a major disaster but we can make

not a major disaster but we can make errors at work yet we have skills kind

errors at work yet we have skills kind

errors at work yet we have skills kind of hidden skills to help us avoid error

of hidden skills to help us avoid error

of hidden skills to help us avoid error and catch error these are the skills I’m

and catch error these are the skills I’m

and catch error these are the skills I’m going to talk to you about and I’d like

going to talk to you about and I’d like

going to talk to you about and I’d like you to think about maybe you have some

you to think about maybe you have some

you to think about maybe you have some of these skills in your job and because

of these skills in your job and because

of these skills in your job and because I don’t know what your job is let me

I don’t know what your job is let me

I don’t know what your job is let me take an example from driving so you may

take an example from driving so you may

take an example from driving so you may have been driving here on this snowy

have been driving here on this snowy

have been driving here on this snowy morning an unfamiliar area what are you

morning an unfamiliar area what are you

morning an unfamiliar area what are you doing you’re driving operating the car

doing you’re driving operating the car

doing you’re driving operating the car but you’re also gathering information

but you’re also gathering information

but you’re also gathering information watching the traffic looking at the road

watching the traffic looking at the road

watching the traffic looking at the road surface maybe you’re thinking where do I

surface maybe you’re thinking where do I

surface maybe you’re thinking where do I make a turning and if in a few minutes

make a turning and if in a few minutes

make a turning and if in a few minutes ahead you may be asking your passenger

ahead you may be asking your passenger

ahead you may be asking your passenger to help you navigate you may be asking

to help you navigate you may be asking

to help you navigate you may be asking your children to be quiet because you’re

your children to be quiet because you’re

your children to be quiet because you’re aware they’re beginning to distract you

aware they’re beginning to distract you

aware they’re beginning to distract you and what you’re using here are thinking

and what you’re using here are thinking

and what you’re using here are thinking skills and social skills that are not

skills and social skills that are not

skills and social skills that are not part of the technical driving skills but

part of the technical driving skills but

part of the technical driving skills but they’re skills that help us work

they’re skills that help us work

they’re skills that help us work efficiently and they’re very good skills

efficiently and they’re very good skills

efficiently and they’re very good skills for catching error and these skills are

for catching error and these skills are

for catching error and these skills are called non-technical skills so if we

called non-technical skills so if we

called non-technical skills so if we take

take

take those non-technical skills are now

those non-technical skills are now

those non-technical skills are now squirrel where did they where did these

squirrel where did they where did these

squirrel where did they where did these skills come from this is where they came

skills come from this is where they came

skills come from this is where they came from they came or where they came from

from they came or where they came from

from they came or where they came from where they were first identified was the

where they were first identified was the

where they were first identified was the world of aviation and from the big

world of aviation and from the big

world of aviation and from the big aviation accidents the ones that really

aviation accidents the ones that really

aviation accidents the ones that really had no technical causes this is a

had no technical causes this is a

had no technical causes this is a picture of Tenerife there were a number

picture of Tenerife there were a number

picture of Tenerife there were a number of accidents in the 1970s and the 1980s

of accidents in the 1970s and the 1980s

of accidents in the 1970s and the 1980s that really puzzled investigators

that really puzzled investigators

that really puzzled investigators because they were technically competent

because they were technically competent

because they were technically competent crew there were no main technical

crew there were no main technical

crew there were no main technical problems with the aircraft and still we

problems with the aircraft and still we

problems with the aircraft and still we had these kinds of crashes the jumbo

had these kinds of crashes the jumbo

had these kinds of crashes the jumbo jets at Tenerife that collided something

jets at Tenerife that collided something

jets at Tenerife that collided something to do with communication the Florida

to do with communication the Florida

to do with communication the Florida crew became distracted by a little

crew became distracted by a little

crew became distracted by a little problem and failed to notice they had a

problem and failed to notice they had a

problem and failed to notice they had a great big problem and flew into the

great big problem and flew into the

great big problem and flew into the ground in England we had a flight with a

ground in England we had a flight with a

ground in England we had a flight with a plane with one engine on fire and

plane with one engine on fire and

plane with one engine on fire and accidentally the pilots turned off the

accidentally the pilots turned off the

accidentally the pilots turned off the other engine and now we have no engines

other engine and now we have no engines

other engine and now we have no engines and so the plane crashes so these were

and so the plane crashes so these were

and so the plane crashes so these were very puzzling to the investigators why

very puzzling to the investigators why

very puzzling to the investigators why why were we having these kinds of

why were we having these kinds of

why were we having these kinds of accidents and how could we find out

accidents and how could we find out

accidents and how could we find out where they were coming from because they

where they were coming from because they

where they were coming from because they were just being called pilot error and

were just being called pilot error and

were just being called pilot error and here’s the answer the answer was hidden

here’s the answer the answer was hidden

here’s the answer the answer was hidden in the cockpit voice recorder in the

in the cockpit voice recorder in the

in the cockpit voice recorder in the black box this is a black box you can

black box this is a black box you can

black box this is a black box you can see it’s orange very nice Dutch color

see it’s orange very nice Dutch color

see it’s orange very nice Dutch color orange but this is so we can find the

orange but this is so we can find the

orange but this is so we can find the black box and in there’s a recorder and

black box and in there’s a recorder and

black box and in there’s a recorder and when they listen to the recordings they

when they listen to the recordings they

when they listen to the recordings they found all kinds of behavior patterns

found all kinds of behavior patterns

found all kinds of behavior patterns that were contributing to error or were

that were contributing to error or were

that were contributing to error or were meaning the errors weren’t getting

meaning the errors weren’t getting

meaning the errors weren’t getting caught so there were things to do with

caught so there were things to do with

caught so there were things to do with the way the pilots work together things

the way the pilots work together things

the way the pilots work together things to do with decision making things to do

to do with decision making things to do

to do with decision making things to do with poor leadership things to do with

with poor leadership things to do with

with poor leadership things to do with communication all in the voice

communication all in the voice

communication all in the voice recordings and so they realize that

recordings and so they realize that

recordings and so they realize that there were these other skills that

there were these other skills that

there were these other skills that pilots needed and they called these

pilots needed and they called these

pilots needed and they called these these non-technical skills and at this

these non-technical skills and at this

these non-technical skills and at this point they began to get the aviation

point they began to get the aviation

point they began to get the aviation psychologist to work in the simulators

psychologist to work in the simulators

psychologist to work in the simulators to start really understanding what these

to start really understanding what these

to start really understanding what these behaviors were that they were going to

behaviors were that they were going to

behaviors were that they were going to have to bring into the pilots tree

have to bring into the pilots tree

have to bring into the pilots tree one of these was a situation where

one of these was a situation where

one of these was a situation where co-pilots as in tenerife did not speak

co-pilots as in tenerife did not speak

co-pilots as in tenerife did not speak up very forcefully to the captain when

up very forcefully to the captain when

up very forcefully to the captain when they thought there might be a problem

they thought there might be a problem

they thought there might be a problem with the flight and they could hear this

with the flight and they could hear this

with the flight and they could hear this on the voice recording they set up a

on the voice recording they set up a

on the voice recording they set up a simulation and they asked the captain’s

simulation and they asked the captain’s

simulation and they asked the captain’s to feenin capacity take very bad

to feenin capacity take very bad

to feenin capacity take very bad decisions and they were watching the

decisions and they were watching the

decisions and they were watching the behavior of the copilot’s and they were

behavior of the copilot’s and they were

behavior of the copilot’s and they were alarmed by the findings because what

alarmed by the findings because what

alarmed by the findings because what they saw was that the copilot’s were

they saw was that the copilot’s were

they saw was that the copilot’s were taking a long time to challenge the

taking a long time to challenge the

taking a long time to challenge the captain even if they challenged them at

captain even if they challenged them at

captain even if they challenged them at all even when they were clearly

all even when they were clearly

all even when they were clearly concerned that something was going wrong

concerned that something was going wrong

concerned that something was going wrong and this was due to the status hierarchy

and this was due to the status hierarchy

and this was due to the status hierarchy the authority gradient a more senior

the authority gradient a more senior

the authority gradient a more senior person and the more junior person

person and the more junior person

person and the more junior person cautious and careful about speaking up

cautious and careful about speaking up

cautious and careful about speaking up one of the psychologists said at the

one of the psychologists said at the

one of the psychologists said at the time co-pilots would rather die and

time co-pilots would rather die and

time co-pilots would rather die and challenge a captain this is not a

challenge a captain this is not a

challenge a captain this is not a situation that could continue so they

situation that could continue so they

situation that could continue so they began to bring in special training

began to bring in special training

began to bring in special training across the set of these skills including

across the set of these skills including

across the set of these skills including assertiveness for pilots but surprising

assertiveness for pilots but surprising

assertiveness for pilots but surprising if you’ve ever seen pilots to think that

if you’ve ever seen pilots to think that

if you’ve ever seen pilots to think that they need assertiveness training and not

they need assertiveness training and not

they need assertiveness training and not enough to train the copilot’s to be

enough to train the copilot’s to be

enough to train the copilot’s to be assertive you have to train the

assertive you have to train the

assertive you have to train the captain’s to listen to the copilot when

captain’s to listen to the copilot when

captain’s to listen to the copilot when the copilot is trying to speak up

the copilot is trying to speak up

the copilot is trying to speak up so this was a whole new way of thinking

so this was a whole new way of thinking

so this was a whole new way of thinking a whole new kind of training that we

a whole new kind of training that we

a whole new kind of training that we brought into aviation to train these

brought into aviation to train these

brought into aviation to train these non-technical skills these are the main

non-technical skills these are the main

non-technical skills these are the main catagories and underneath these are all

catagories and underneath these are all

catagories and underneath these are all these behaviors about not listening not

these behaviors about not listening not

these behaviors about not listening not speaking up not working well together

speaking up not working well together

speaking up not working well together and the special kind of training they

and the special kind of training they

and the special kind of training they brought in an aviation is called crew

brought in an aviation is called crew

brought in an aviation is called crew resource management and you may be aware

resource management and you may be aware

resource management and you may be aware that pilots by law in each country have

that pilots by law in each country have

that pilots by law in each country have to have this crew resource management

to have this crew resource management

to have this crew resource management training they have it at the start and

training they have it at the start and

training they have it at the start and they have it every year

they have it every year

they have it every year and now they have their skills their

and now they have their skills their

and now they have their skills their non-technical skills assessed as well as

non-technical skills assessed as well as

non-technical skills assessed as well as their technical skills and I worked in a

their technical skills and I worked in a

their technical skills and I worked in a European project with some Dutch pilots

European project with some Dutch pilots

European project with some Dutch pilots developing a system for rating pilots

developing a system for rating pilots

developing a system for rating pilots known technical skills that’s my

known technical skills that’s my

known technical skills that’s my interest in this in this particular area

interest in this in this particular area

interest in this in this particular area but it’s not just pilots who need

but it’s not just pilots who need

but it’s not just pilots who need skill there are other high-risk work

skill there are other high-risk work

skill there are other high-risk work environments this being one of them

environments this being one of them

environments this being one of them healthcare I also work a bit on patient

healthcare I also work a bit on patient

healthcare I also work a bit on patient safety and there have been some big

safety and there have been some big

safety and there have been some big accidents where patients have died

accidents where patients have died

accidents where patients have died because of error in one case in 2005 a

because of error in one case in 2005 a

because of error in one case in 2005 a woman called Elaine Bromley went into

woman called Elaine Bromley went into

woman called Elaine Bromley went into hospital for a minor procedure

hospital for a minor procedure

hospital for a minor procedure mid-thirties mother of two small

mid-thirties mother of two small

mid-thirties mother of two small children anesthetist put her to sleep

children anesthetist put her to sleep

children anesthetist put her to sleep tried to make the intubation but have a

tried to make the intubation but have a

tried to make the intubation but have a big problem getting the tube down and

big problem getting the tube down and

big problem getting the tube down and they struggled to try and do this and

they struggled to try and do this and

they struggled to try and do this and they start to lose track of time and all

they start to lose track of time and all

they start to lose track of time and all the time her oxygen levels are too low

the time her oxygen levels are too low

the time her oxygen levels are too low for her brain the nurses to nurses

for her brain the nurses to nurses

for her brain the nurses to nurses become concerned try to intervene and

become concerned try to intervene and

become concerned try to intervene and are waved away by the by the doctors who

are waved away by the by the doctors who

are waved away by the by the doctors who continue to focus on their tasks

continue to focus on their tasks

continue to focus on their tasks eventually they give up she said to the

eventually they give up she said to the

eventually they give up she said to the recovery room

recovery room

recovery room in fact she never recovers and her

in fact she never recovers and her

in fact she never recovers and her husband ten days later has to switch off

husband ten days later has to switch off

husband ten days later has to switch off her life support machine why I’m telling

her life support machine why I’m telling

her life support machine why I’m telling you this story is because Martin Bromley

you this story is because Martin Bromley

you this story is because Martin Bromley her husband is a pilot he’s an airline

her husband is a pilot he’s an airline

her husband is a pilot he’s an airline captain and he asked for an independent

captain and he asked for an independent

captain and he asked for an independent report into his wife’s death and when he

report into his wife’s death and when he

report into his wife’s death and when he did this the report came back and it was

did this the report came back and it was

did this the report came back and it was full of failures and non-technical

full of failures and non-technical

full of failures and non-technical skills losing track of the situation

skills losing track of the situation

skills losing track of the situation losing track of the time not listening

losing track of the time not listening

losing track of the time not listening to people who are trying to tell you

to people who are trying to tell you

to people who are trying to tell you there’s a problem not working together

there’s a problem not working together

there’s a problem not working together as a team bad decisions and so he has

as a team bad decisions and so he has

as a team bad decisions and so he has been working ever since to try and bring

been working ever since to try and bring

been working ever since to try and bring this non-technical skills training into

this non-technical skills training into

this non-technical skills training into health care because the doctors and

health care because the doctors and

health care because the doctors and nurses have been getting no training of

nurses have been getting no training of

nurses have been getting no training of this kind even though they work in a

this kind even though they work in a

this kind even though they work in a high-risk environment and our work in

high-risk environment and our work in

high-risk environment and our work in Scotland has been working between

Scotland has been working between

Scotland has been working between psychologists surgeons anaesthetists and

psychologists surgeons anaesthetists and

psychologists surgeons anaesthetists and nurses to design systems and design

nurses to design systems and design

nurses to design systems and design training for bringing in non-technical

training for bringing in non-technical

training for bringing in non-technical skills but they can use for training in

skills but they can use for training in

skills but they can use for training in the healthcare environment particularly

the healthcare environment particularly

the healthcare environment particularly in the operating room which is quite

in the operating room which is quite

in the operating room which is quite high risk at times and we now see other

high risk at times and we now see other

high risk at times and we now see other industries starting to bring in these

industries starting to bring in these

industries starting to bring in these non-technical skills the real industry

non-technical skills the real industry

non-technical skills the real industry the shipping industry the mining

the shipping industry the mining

the shipping industry the mining industry

industry

industry because they recognize this is a missing

because they recognize this is a missing

because they recognize this is a missing piece that they need to improve safety

piece that they need to improve safety

piece that they need to improve safety and efficiency so what I am asking you

and efficiency so what I am asking you

and efficiency so what I am asking you is to think about for your job maybe

is to think about for your job maybe

is to think about for your job maybe there’s some non technical skills

there’s some non technical skills

there’s some non technical skills required there that have never really

required there that have never really

required there that have never really been identified the best people have

been identified the best people have

been identified the best people have always used them but they’re not

always used them but they’re not

always used them but they’re not documented anywhere the trainees find

documented anywhere the trainees find

documented anywhere the trainees find these difficult and slow to learn and to

these difficult and slow to learn and to

these difficult and slow to learn and to finish with to give you an example

finish with to give you an example

finish with to give you an example because I said at the beginning error is

because I said at the beginning error is

because I said at the beginning error is very common I’d like to share with you

very common I’d like to share with you

very common I’d like to share with you an error I made in healthcare I was

an error I made in healthcare I was

an error I made in healthcare I was working in a in a hospital when I was a

working in a in a hospital when I was a

working in a in a hospital when I was a student I was an assistant and a

student I was an assistant and a

student I was an assistant and a geriatric ward with elderly patients my

geriatric ward with elderly patients my

geriatric ward with elderly patients my first day at work my nurse came up to me

first day at work my nurse came up to me

first day at work my nurse came up to me and gave me a tree and on the tree were

and gave me a tree and on the tree were

and gave me a tree and on the tree were 20 little pots 20 little containers and

20 little pots 20 little containers and

20 little pots 20 little containers and in each container was a pair of

in each container was a pair of

in each container was a pair of artificial teeth false teeth belonging

artificial teeth false teeth belonging

artificial teeth false teeth belonging to the patients in the ward and they

to the patients in the ward and they

to the patients in the ward and they said to me can you clean these teeth I

said to me can you clean these teeth I

said to me can you clean these teeth I thought this is a pretty horrible job to

thought this is a pretty horrible job to

thought this is a pretty horrible job to be cleaning other people’s dirty teeth

be cleaning other people’s dirty teeth

be cleaning other people’s dirty teeth so I take them to the sink and I think

so I take them to the sink and I think

so I take them to the sink and I think how could I do this efficiently so I

how could I do this efficiently so I

how could I do this efficiently so I fill the sink with water and I tipped

fill the sink with water and I tipped

fill the sink with water and I tipped all the pots of teeth into the sink and

all the pots of teeth into the sink and

all the pots of teeth into the sink and I picked up the first pair right pleased

I picked up the first pair right pleased

I picked up the first pair right pleased with myself because I like this

with myself because I like this

with myself because I like this efficiency I’m brushing the first teeth

efficiency I’m brushing the first teeth

efficiency I’m brushing the first teeth and I go to replace them and I look and

and I go to replace them and I look and

and I go to replace them and I look and there’s no name on the teeth the names

there’s no name on the teeth the names

there’s no name on the teeth the names are on the pots so now I have a sink

are on the pots so now I have a sink

are on the pots so now I have a sink with 20 pairs of teeth and we don’t know

with 20 pairs of teeth and we don’t know

with 20 pairs of teeth and we don’t know who the teeth belong to this is clearly

who the teeth belong to this is clearly

who the teeth belong to this is clearly not a major problem it was a little bit

not a major problem it was a little bit

not a major problem it was a little bit uncomfortable in the ward there were

uncomfortable in the ward there were

uncomfortable in the ward there were some very strange smiles in the ward for

some very strange smiles in the ward for

some very strange smiles in the ward for a day or two until the teeth were

a day or two until the teeth were

a day or two until the teeth were reunited with the correct owners the

reunited with the correct owners the

reunited with the correct owners the nurses were not pleased with me it

nurses were not pleased with me it

nurses were not pleased with me it really was the end of my nursing career

really was the end of my nursing career

really was the end of my nursing career rather

rather

rather the beginning of it and it was a failure

the beginning of it and it was a failure

the beginning of it and it was a failure in situation awareness not thinking

in situation awareness not thinking

in situation awareness not thinking ahead of the implications of the action

ahead of the implications of the action

ahead of the implications of the action I was taking making a very bad decision

I was taking making a very bad decision

I was taking making a very bad decision probably also not listening to any

probably also not listening to any

probably also not listening to any instructions that I had been being given

instructions that I had been being given

instructions that I had been being given so not a major failure not a disastrous

so not a major failure not a disastrous

so not a major failure not a disastrous dangerous error but still an error the

dangerous error but still an error the

dangerous error but still an error the typical kind of thing that happens every

typical kind of thing that happens every

typical kind of thing that happens every every day in everybody’s life and in

every day in everybody’s life and in

every day in everybody’s life and in everybody’s work so what I think is an

everybody’s work so what I think is an

everybody’s work so what I think is an idea worth spreading is that we look at

idea worth spreading is that we look at

idea worth spreading is that we look at the non-technical skills not just for

the non-technical skills not just for

the non-technical skills not just for the high-risk jobs but for lots of jobs

the high-risk jobs but for lots of jobs

the high-risk jobs but for lots of jobs because I think understanding better

because I think understanding better

because I think understanding better these hidden skills these cognitive

these hidden skills these cognitive

these hidden skills these cognitive skills these social skills can help to

skills these social skills can help to

skills these social skills can help to improve efficiency help to reduce error

improve efficiency help to reduce error

improve efficiency help to reduce error and maybe keep things a little bit safer

and maybe keep things a little bit safer

and maybe keep things a little bit safer thank you very much

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