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Preserving our physical today for the future generations’ tomorrow | Dave Meeker | TEDxDetroit


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[Music] hey everybody wow that’s a lofty title

hey everybody wow that’s a lofty title

hey everybody wow that’s a lofty title I’m a kid from Akron Ohio so that might

I’m a kid from Akron Ohio so that might

I’m a kid from Akron Ohio so that might be the most complicated thing that ever

be the most complicated thing that ever

be the most complicated thing that ever ran through my brain that’s me as a

ran through my brain that’s me as a

ran through my brain that’s me as a little boy and I always think of Akron

little boy and I always think of Akron

little boy and I always think of Akron is sort of Detroit’s smaller in stature

is sort of Detroit’s smaller in stature

is sort of Detroit’s smaller in stature less successful less musical cousin you

less successful less musical cousin you

less successful less musical cousin you guys made the cars we made the tires and

guys made the cars we made the tires and

guys made the cars we made the tires and my grandfather worked in a tire factory

my grandfather worked in a tire factory

my grandfather worked in a tire factory for 40 years fast-forward 40 years here

for 40 years fast-forward 40 years here

for 40 years fast-forward 40 years here me is me as a father I work at a company

me is me as a father I work at a company

me is me as a father I work at a company called isobar we are a digital agency

called isobar we are a digital agency

called isobar we are a digital agency and here in Detroit we do a lot of work

and here in Detroit we do a lot of work

and here in Detroit we do a lot of work for General Motors including making

for General Motors including making

for General Motors including making virtual reality experiences part of my

virtual reality experiences part of my

virtual reality experiences part of my job is to investigate new technologies

job is to investigate new technologies

job is to investigate new technologies and trends and how those apply to

and trends and how those apply to

and trends and how those apply to businesses and we often talk about

businesses and we often talk about

businesses and we often talk about innovation to me innovation is this

innovation to me innovation is this

innovation to me innovation is this practice of connecting dots that were

practice of connecting dots that were

practice of connecting dots that were previously not connected trying to find

previously not connected trying to find

previously not connected trying to find out ways to do things that perhaps we

out ways to do things that perhaps we

out ways to do things that perhaps we didn’t intend but that lead to solutions

didn’t intend but that lead to solutions

didn’t intend but that lead to solutions to big problems we often try to force it

to big problems we often try to force it

to big problems we often try to force it and sometimes that doesn’t work and

and sometimes that doesn’t work and

and sometimes that doesn’t work and sometimes the unforced examples are most

sometimes the unforced examples are most

sometimes the unforced examples are most beautiful one day sitting in our office

beautiful one day sitting in our office

beautiful one day sitting in our office in Chicago I was working with a team we

in Chicago I was working with a team we

in Chicago I was working with a team we were talking about how can we recreate

were talking about how can we recreate

were talking about how can we recreate physical spaces and how can we provide

physical spaces and how can we provide

physical spaces and how can we provide more context to people using these types

more context to people using these types

more context to people using these types of digital experiences because if you

of digital experiences because if you

of digital experiences because if you don’t know vr is pretty cool and it’s

don’t know vr is pretty cool and it’s

don’t know vr is pretty cool and it’s going to be very important to us over

going to be very important to us over

going to be very important to us over the next five or so years this is the

the next five or so years this is the

the next five or so years this is the view from the Chicago office and I had

view from the Chicago office and I had

view from the Chicago office and I had this inspired moment because the week

this inspired moment because the week

this inspired moment because the week before my wife and I were on the Chicago

before my wife and I were on the Chicago

before my wife and I were on the Chicago architectural tour if you’ve never done

architectural tour if you’ve never done

architectural tour if you’ve never done that it’s pretty interesting and they

that it’s pretty interesting and they

that it’s pretty interesting and they give you this point that all of the land

give you this point that all of the land

give you this point that all of the land east of michigan avenue at one time was

east of michigan avenue at one time was

east of michigan avenue at one time was lake and after the Great Chicago Fire

lake and after the Great Chicago Fire

lake and after the Great Chicago Fire they dumped the remnants of the ashes

they dumped the remnants of the ashes

they dumped the remnants of the ashes into the lake to create land this

into the lake to create land this

into the lake to create land this happens all over the world but you never

happens all over the world but you never

happens all over the world but you never really have context on what that means

really have context on what that means

really have context on what that means and so let’s take a look that used to

and so let’s take a look that used to

and so let’s take a look that used to all be lake that was all lake and that

all be lake that was all lake and that

all be lake that was all lake and that was all lake that is an area about three

was all lake that is an area about three

was all lake that is an area about three times the size of downtown Detroit

times the size of downtown Detroit

times the size of downtown Detroit proper all right so it makes me think to

proper all right so it makes me think to

proper all right so it makes me think to myself and ask this question which we

myself and ask this question which we

myself and ask this question which we often do

often do

often do in the world of innovation we don’t know

in the world of innovation we don’t know

in the world of innovation we don’t know if we’re always right but we have to

if we’re always right but we have to

if we’re always right but we have to question things are there better ways to

question things are there better ways to

question things are there better ways to visualize change or deconstruction or

visualize change or deconstruction or

visualize change or deconstruction or the reconstruction can we provide more

the reconstruction can we provide more

the reconstruction can we provide more context to people and how can we better

context to people and how can we better

context to people and how can we better preserve today for the benefit of people

preserve today for the benefit of people

preserve today for the benefit of people tomorrow we have these current tools

tomorrow we have these current tools

tomorrow we have these current tools maps and illustrations & paintings in

maps and illustrations & paintings in

maps and illustrations & paintings in photography and video and time-lapse

photography and video and time-lapse

photography and video and time-lapse videos and maybe 3d videos if you’re

videos and maybe 3d videos if you’re

videos and maybe 3d videos if you’re really lucky and have a lot of money and

really lucky and have a lot of money and

really lucky and have a lot of money and in the course of putting the slide

in the course of putting the slide

in the course of putting the slide together I did some research and I found

together I did some research and I found

together I did some research and I found this beautiful picture of the fox

this beautiful picture of the fox

this beautiful picture of the fox theater here in Detroit because this is

theater here in Detroit because this is

theater here in Detroit because this is from the 60s right no it says Aretha

from the 60s right no it says Aretha

from the 60s right no it says Aretha Franklin still not from the 60s because

Franklin still not from the 60s because

Franklin still not from the 60s because you can see in the corner on the right

you can see in the corner on the right

you can see in the corner on the right hand side there’s a little bit of a

hand side there’s a little bit of a

hand side there’s a little bit of a second city sign and that didn’t appear

second city sign and that didn’t appear

second city sign and that didn’t appear in detroit until the 90s and so even the

in detroit until the 90s and so even the

in detroit until the 90s and so even the ways we think about capturing things

ways we think about capturing things

ways we think about capturing things today don’t always provide the right

today don’t always provide the right

today don’t always provide the right kind of context okay so moving forward

kind of context okay so moving forward

kind of context okay so moving forward maybe there is a way to do this by using

maybe there is a way to do this by using

maybe there is a way to do this by using drones and virtual reality that might

drones and virtual reality that might

drones and virtual reality that might sound crazy to some you but let me

sound crazy to some you but let me

sound crazy to some you but let me explain there is a process called

explain there is a process called

explain there is a process called photogrammetry photogrammetry is a an

photogrammetry photogrammetry is a an

photogrammetry photogrammetry is a an old process used to create Maps you got

old process used to create Maps you got

old process used to create Maps you got to think back before we had airplanes we

to think back before we had airplanes we

to think back before we had airplanes we walked around and tried to create maps

walked around and tried to create maps

walked around and tried to create maps and they probably weren’t that accurate

and they probably weren’t that accurate

and they probably weren’t that accurate but the once we got into the air we

but the once we got into the air we

but the once we got into the air we could use expensive airplanes with

could use expensive airplanes with

could use expensive airplanes with expensive cameras take aerial

expensive cameras take aerial

expensive cameras take aerial photographs and measure distances using

photographs and measure distances using

photographs and measure distances using them well today because of the consumer

them well today because of the consumer

them well today because of the consumer market in innovation in drones or UAVs

market in innovation in drones or UAVs

market in innovation in drones or UAVs is the more astute might call them we

is the more astute might call them we

is the more astute might call them we have low cost flying cameras and we also

have low cost flying cameras and we also

have low cost flying cameras and we also have a lot of companies that have

have a lot of companies that have

have a lot of companies that have created software to take advantage of

created software to take advantage of

created software to take advantage of these low-cost flying cameras to do what

these low-cost flying cameras to do what

these low-cost flying cameras to do what I’m about to show you requires two types

I’m about to show you requires two types

I’m about to show you requires two types of flights first you identify something

of flights first you identify something

of flights first you identify something that you want to preserve historically

that you want to preserve historically

that you want to preserve historically you fly around it in a circle and you

you fly around it in a circle and you

you fly around it in a circle and you take a bunch of pictures the GPS in the

take a bunch of pictures the GPS in the

take a bunch of pictures the GPS in the German records all of this and its

German records all of this and its

German records all of this and its position and the where the camera was

position and the where the camera was

position and the where the camera was faced in a lot of other settings embeds

faced in a lot of other settings embeds

faced in a lot of other settings embeds it into the photograph then you do a

it into the photograph then you do a

it into the photograph then you do a scanning flight similar type of flight

scanning flight similar type of flight

scanning flight similar type of flight obviously not a circle so drones and

obviously not a circle so drones and

obviously not a circle so drones and photogrammetry what’s that look like

photogrammetry what’s that look like

photogrammetry what’s that look like well it looks like that it’s pretty cool

well it looks like that it’s pretty cool

well it looks like that it’s pretty cool that’s a 3d model of a temple in

that’s a 3d model of a temple in

that’s a 3d model of a temple in thailand

thailand

thailand really inspired me and I wanted to say

really inspired me and I wanted to say

really inspired me and I wanted to say to myself well could I go there this is

to myself well could I go there this is

to myself well could I go there this is orange island in orange aisle in China

orange island in orange aisle in China

orange island in orange aisle in China that is a giant sculpture of general mal

that is a giant sculpture of general mal

that is a giant sculpture of general mal but there is this problem with

but there is this problem with

but there is this problem with perception of drones these people don’t

perception of drones these people don’t

perception of drones these people don’t want you to fly over their backyard

want you to fly over their backyard

want you to fly over their backyard because you’re going to spy on them and

because you’re going to spy on them and

because you’re going to spy on them and this guy is the defender of privacy is

this guy is the defender of privacy is

this guy is the defender of privacy is actually a marketing campaign by a

actually a marketing campaign by a

actually a marketing campaign by a company that makes silencers for

company that makes silencers for

company that makes silencers for shotguns because we need woes so that

shotguns because we need woes so that

shotguns because we need woes so that you can shoot drones out of the sky with

you can shoot drones out of the sky with

you can shoot drones out of the sky with that bothering your neighbors this town

that bothering your neighbors this town

that bothering your neighbors this town in deer deer trail Colorado actually had

in deer deer trail Colorado actually had

in deer deer trail Colorado actually had a legislation on the books that

a legislation on the books that

a legislation on the books that thankfully didn’t pass that was where

thankfully didn’t pass that was where

thankfully didn’t pass that was where they were considering a bounty on drones

they were considering a bounty on drones

they were considering a bounty on drones and issuing hunting licenses no

and issuing hunting licenses no

and issuing hunting licenses no ignorance folks no lack or no problem

ignorance folks no lack or no problem

ignorance folks no lack or no problem with perception so photogrammetry with

with perception so photogrammetry with

with perception so photogrammetry with drones is pretty cool but viewing 3d

drones is pretty cool but viewing 3d

drones is pretty cool but viewing 3d models on a flat screen not so awesome

models on a flat screen not so awesome

models on a flat screen not so awesome this is where we bring in VR so if you

this is where we bring in VR so if you

this is where we bring in VR so if you have an experienced VR you should this

have an experienced VR you should this

have an experienced VR you should this is the year for VR if you don’t know

is the year for VR if you don’t know

is the year for VR if you don’t know that but people have a perception

that but people have a perception

that but people have a perception problem with VR also that when we do

problem with VR also that when we do

problem with VR also that when we do that we’re actually doing that which

that we’re actually doing that which

that we’re actually doing that which leads to that and nobody wants this so

leads to that and nobody wants this so

leads to that and nobody wants this so photogrammetry and virtual reality

photogrammetry and virtual reality

photogrammetry and virtual reality combined is one of these unintended

combined is one of these unintended

combined is one of these unintended innovations I doubt that when I guess

innovations I doubt that when I guess

innovations I doubt that when I guess the Air Force 50 years ago or 80 years

the Air Force 50 years ago or 80 years

the Air Force 50 years ago or 80 years ago was thinking about we should create

ago was thinking about we should create

ago was thinking about we should create maps from the sky and we can use math

maps from the sky and we can use math

maps from the sky and we can use math that they were thinking about what I’m

that they were thinking about what I’m

that they were thinking about what I’m about to show you none of these 3d

about to show you none of these 3d

about to show you none of these 3d models were intended to be used for this

models were intended to be used for this

models were intended to be used for this they were simply captured by drone

they were simply captured by drone

they were simply captured by drone pilots all over the world you’ll see the

pilots all over the world you’ll see the

pilots all over the world you’ll see the credits in the bottom left hand and what

credits in the bottom left hand and what

credits in the bottom left hand and what I’m able to do is load these in I’m in

I’m able to do is load these in I’m in

I’m able to do is load these in I’m in my basement when I was recording this

my basement when I was recording this

my basement when I was recording this with a VR headset on and two controllers

with a VR headset on and two controllers

with a VR headset on and two controllers and I can point and click and now I am

and I can point and click and now I am

and I can point and click and now I am inside this beautiful villa in Spain

inside this beautiful villa in Spain

inside this beautiful villa in Spain this is a terrible 3d model this is from

this is a terrible 3d model this is from

this is a terrible 3d model this is from hong kong you can see the 3d model

hong kong you can see the 3d model

hong kong you can see the 3d model doesn’t look photo realistic but boy

doesn’t look photo realistic but boy

doesn’t look photo realistic but boy I’ll tell you you feel like you’re going

I’ll tell you you feel like you’re going

I’ll tell you you feel like you’re going to fall off of the edge when you stand

to fall off of the edge when you stand

to fall off of the edge when you stand on that roof and again standing and

on that roof and again standing and

on that roof and again standing and looking at ganesh it was amazing so the

looking at ganesh it was amazing so the

looking at ganesh it was amazing so the question

question

question can we do this the answer yes and you

can we do this the answer yes and you

can we do this the answer yes and you really create empathy there’s even a way

really create empathy there’s even a way

really create empathy there’s even a way to take photographs and change the time

to take photographs and change the time

to take photographs and change the time of day this is again that photograph of

of day this is again that photograph of

of day this is again that photograph of orange aisle which now you can jump into

orange aisle which now you can jump into

orange aisle which now you can jump into which is amazing so why is this so cool

which is amazing so why is this so cool

which is amazing so why is this so cool to me is because when we create content

to me is because when we create content

to me is because when we create content for a VR that’s photorealistic it’s

for a VR that’s photorealistic it’s

for a VR that’s photorealistic it’s really complicated take 3d modelers and

really complicated take 3d modelers and

really complicated take 3d modelers and laser scanners and all sorts of experts

laser scanners and all sorts of experts

laser scanners and all sorts of experts and you know what for a $300 dro norfolk

and you know what for a $300 dro norfolk

and you know what for a $300 dro norfolk ebay and about a day of your time you

ebay and about a day of your time you

ebay and about a day of your time you have an opportunity to create those

have an opportunity to create those

have an opportunity to create those types of experiences for kids the

types of experiences for kids the

types of experiences for kids the potential impact on education is

potential impact on education is

potential impact on education is unprecedented how does it apply to

unprecedented how does it apply to

unprecedented how does it apply to Detroit so in talking to some folks they

Detroit so in talking to some folks they

Detroit so in talking to some folks they said hey go there do that but I don’t

said hey go there do that but I don’t

said hey go there do that but I don’t think that’s the answer and we could go

think that’s the answer and we could go

think that’s the answer and we could go these places which we believe are

these places which we believe are

these places which we believe are beautiful and we should share with the

beautiful and we should share with the

beautiful and we should share with the rest of the world so let’s capture these

rest of the world so let’s capture these

rest of the world so let’s capture these but they aren’t really in threat of

but they aren’t really in threat of

but they aren’t really in threat of going away something that is in Detroit

going away something that is in Detroit

going away something that is in Detroit that isn’t a threat not necessarily if

that isn’t a threat not necessarily if

that isn’t a threat not necessarily if going away but of changing and being

going away but of changing and being

going away but of changing and being different for the future is this the

different for the future is this the

different for the future is this the Heidelberg project is fascinating and

Heidelberg project is fascinating and

Heidelberg project is fascinating and really for me shows perseverance in the

really for me shows perseverance in the

really for me shows perseverance in the time of adversity and what Tyree and

time of adversity and what Tyree and

time of adversity and what Tyree and this team has been able to do over time

this team has been able to do over time

this team has been able to do over time is amazing and so if we have this

is amazing and so if we have this

is amazing and so if we have this technology ten years ago we would have

technology ten years ago we would have

technology ten years ago we would have been able to still go and visit this

been able to still go and visit this

been able to still go and visit this place or this place or this place which

place or this place or this place which

place or this place or this place which have all been victims of arson so it is

have all been victims of arson so it is

have all been victims of arson so it is a bar we are starting to work with the

a bar we are starting to work with the

a bar we are starting to work with the Heidelberg project what are we doing

Heidelberg project what are we doing

Heidelberg project what are we doing we’re going to take new technologies

we’re going to take new technologies

we’re going to take new technologies including the 3d scanning drones and

including the 3d scanning drones and

including the 3d scanning drones and photogrammetry and a variety of other

photogrammetry and a variety of other

photogrammetry and a variety of other techniques to see if we can’t try to

techniques to see if we can’t try to

techniques to see if we can’t try to preserve the today for others tomorrow

preserve the today for others tomorrow

preserve the today for others tomorrow as you may know the Heidelberg project

as you may know the Heidelberg project

as you may know the Heidelberg project is under a transition it’s going to be

is under a transition it’s going to be

is under a transition it’s going to be changing over the next couple of years

changing over the next couple of years

changing over the next couple of years with the support from the community to

with the support from the community to

with the support from the community to remix it if you will someone made a

remix it if you will someone made a

remix it if you will someone made a comment to me yesterday that the

comment to me yesterday that the

comment to me yesterday that the Heidelberg project is like visual

Heidelberg project is like visual

Heidelberg project is like visual hip-hop I thought that was a really a

hip-hop I thought that was a really a

hip-hop I thought that was a really a fascinating way to describe it these are

fascinating way to describe it these are

fascinating way to describe it these are some shots from the recent experiments

some shots from the recent experiments

some shots from the recent experiments that we’ve done flying the drone over

that we’ve done flying the drone over

that we’ve done flying the drone over now we’re taking them and we’re creating

now we’re taking them and we’re creating

now we’re taking them and we’re creating 3d models and really the first step here

3d models and really the first step here

3d models and really the first step here is to see what kind of rest

is to see what kind of rest

is to see what kind of rest gen quality we can get because I think

gen quality we can get because I think

gen quality we can get because I think it would be amazing for a child in China

it would be amazing for a child in China

it would be amazing for a child in China to be able to look at this jump in too

to be able to look at this jump in too

to be able to look at this jump in too inexperienced the heidelberg project

inexperienced the heidelberg project

inexperienced the heidelberg project without having to actually fly to

without having to actually fly to

without having to actually fly to detroit although we’d like that to the

detroit although we’d like that to the

detroit although we’d like that to the number house is under a current

number house is under a current

number house is under a current preservation and there’s a capital

preservation and there’s a capital

preservation and there’s a capital campaign to help do that and while the

campaign to help do that and while the

campaign to help do that and while the heidelberg project is working on this to

heidelberg project is working on this to

heidelberg project is working on this to preserve the house structurally we are

preserve the house structurally we are

preserve the house structurally we are working to preserve everything digitally

working to preserve everything digitally

working to preserve everything digitally so what can you do become an advocate

so what can you do become an advocate

so what can you do become an advocate this is pretty interesting stuff that

this is pretty interesting stuff that

this is pretty interesting stuff that you probably didn’t know existed before

you probably didn’t know existed before

you probably didn’t know existed before you sat in here today or that you watch

you sat in here today or that you watch

you sat in here today or that you watch this online so embrace this idea of

this online so embrace this idea of

this online so embrace this idea of mixing and matching technologies and

mixing and matching technologies and

mixing and matching technologies and providing new ways to create low-cost

providing new ways to create low-cost

providing new ways to create low-cost scalable dynamic and experiential and

scalable dynamic and experiential and

scalable dynamic and experiential and immersive educational content secondly

immersive educational content secondly

immersive educational content secondly go out and support digital preservation

go out and support digital preservation

go out and support digital preservation seek out organizations that are doing

seek out organizations that are doing

seek out organizations that are doing stuff like this hey everybody you’re in

stuff like this hey everybody you’re in

stuff like this hey everybody you’re in Detroit you know of one supportable and

Detroit you know of one supportable and

Detroit you know of one supportable and lastly influential public officials and

lastly influential public officials and

lastly influential public officials and I say this because every city in the

I say this because every city in the

I say this because every city in the world right now was talking about how

world right now was talking about how

world right now was talking about how innovative they are however there’s

innovative they are however there’s

innovative they are however there’s still barriers for innovation and so

still barriers for innovation and so

still barriers for innovation and so this idea that public officials could

this idea that public officials could

this idea that public officials could maybe we create more pathways for people

maybe we create more pathways for people

maybe we create more pathways for people for example flying drones that they’re

for example flying drones that they’re

for example flying drones that they’re not here to do bad or to spy but to

not here to do bad or to spy but to

not here to do bad or to spy but to create new and interesting things and if

create new and interesting things and if

create new and interesting things and if all of that is too much for you I ask

all of that is too much for you I ask

all of that is too much for you I ask you to do this when you see these things

you to do this when you see these things

you to do this when you see these things I want you to think of that that in that

I want you to think of that that in that

I want you to think of that that in that instead of that and that thanks

instead of that and that thanks

instead of that and that thanks [Applause]

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