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Potty Trained Cows? Transform Farming with Technology | Dr. Alison Vaughan, PhD | TEDxChilliwack


[Applause]

[Applause] so hello my name is dr. Alison Vaughn

so hello my name is dr. Alison Vaughn

so hello my name is dr. Alison Vaughn and here today I’m going to talk to you

and here today I’m going to talk to you

and here today I’m going to talk to you about technology about animal learning

about technology about animal learning

about technology about animal learning and about animal welfare but more

and about animal welfare but more

and about animal welfare but more specifically I’m here to talk to you

specifically I’m here to talk to you

specifically I’m here to talk to you about potty training cows now when

about potty training cows now when

about potty training cows now when people hear about my research they

people hear about my research they

people hear about my research they normally have a few questions questions

normally have a few questions questions

normally have a few questions questions like why and how and are you crazy but

like why and how and are you crazy but

like why and how and are you crazy but this idea is not as crazy as it first

this idea is not as crazy as it first

this idea is not as crazy as it first sounds in fact I hope to prove to you

sounds in fact I hope to prove to you

sounds in fact I hope to prove to you today the potty training cows has the

today the potty training cows has the

today the potty training cows has the power to revolutionize the way we have

power to revolutionize the way we have

power to revolutionize the way we have dairy cattle and serve as a template for

dairy cattle and serve as a template for

dairy cattle and serve as a template for how we can use technology to meet other

how we can use technology to meet other

how we can use technology to meet other challenges to production animal welfare

challenges to production animal welfare

challenges to production animal welfare now some of you in the audience may have

now some of you in the audience may have

now some of you in the audience may have picked up that by my accent I’m not from

picked up that by my accent I’m not from

picked up that by my accent I’m not from Canada I was born on a small island just

Canada I was born on a small island just

Canada I was born on a small island just off the northwest coast of Scotland and

off the northwest coast of Scotland and

off the northwest coast of Scotland and it’s a very rugged it’s a very rural

it’s a very rugged it’s a very rural

it’s a very rugged it’s a very rural environment and if you’d asked me to

environment and if you’d asked me to

environment and if you’d asked me to picture a cow well this is what pops

picture a cow well this is what pops

picture a cow well this is what pops into my head I had a very romantic year

into my head I had a very romantic year

into my head I had a very romantic year of farming and machinery did not feature

of farming and machinery did not feature

of farming and machinery did not feature heavily in that in fact I confess I was

heavily in that in fact I confess I was

heavily in that in fact I confess I was pretty suspicious of technology when it

pretty suspicious of technology when it

pretty suspicious of technology when it came to farm animals so six years ago

came to farm animals so six years ago

came to farm animals so six years ago when I moved to Canada to study dairy

when I moved to Canada to study dairy

when I moved to Canada to study dairy cattle welfare and I was faced with this

cattle welfare and I was faced with this

cattle welfare and I was faced with this it was jarring

it was jarring

it was jarring I’ve been studying animal welfare and

I’ve been studying animal welfare and

I’ve been studying animal welfare and behavior for about 12 years now and this

behavior for about 12 years now and this

behavior for about 12 years now and this contrast and my reaction to it got me

contrast and my reaction to it got me

contrast and my reaction to it got me thinking about animal welfare how we

thinking about animal welfare how we

thinking about animal welfare how we define it and what it means the animals

define it and what it means the animals

define it and what it means the animals themselves now for most people when we

themselves now for most people when we

themselves now for most people when we think of animal welfare I should say

think of animal welfare I should say

think of animal welfare I should say what is good welfare in the first place

what is good welfare in the first place

what is good welfare in the first place so what is good welfare well the short

so what is good welfare well the short

so what is good welfare well the short answer is it means different things to

answer is it means different things to

answer is it means different things to different people for most of us

different people for most of us

different people for most of us intuitively we think of naturalness we

intuitively we think of naturalness we

intuitively we think of naturalness we want an animal to have as natural a life

want an animal to have as natural a life

want an animal to have as natural a life as possible now what does this mean well

as possible now what does this mean well

as possible now what does this mean well there’s one study on Danish pig

there’s one study on Danish pig

there’s one study on Danish pig production and public’s perceptions and

production and public’s perceptions and

production and public’s perceptions and in that participants from the public

in that participants from the public

in that participants from the public we’re asked to sort pictures of pigs

we’re asked to sort pictures of pigs

we’re asked to sort pictures of pigs into those with good welfare and

into those with good welfare and

into those with good welfare and with poor welfare now to quote one

with poor welfare now to quote one

with poor welfare now to quote one participant being dirty is critical Pig

participant being dirty is critical Pig

participant being dirty is critical Pig should be dirty the reason I put all the

should be dirty the reason I put all the

should be dirty the reason I put all the other pigs in that other pile were that

other pigs in that other pile were that

other pigs in that other pile were that they were just too clean that means it’s

they were just too clean that means it’s

they were just too clean that means it’s pure industrialized production they were

pure industrialized production they were

pure industrialized production they were clean and I don’t like it and that goes

clean and I don’t like it and that goes

clean and I don’t like it and that goes for the one with the curly tail – it was

for the one with the curly tail – it was

for the one with the curly tail – it was nice and curly but too clean should have

nice and curly but too clean should have

nice and curly but too clean should have been dirty now it’s funny because if I

been dirty now it’s funny because if I

been dirty now it’s funny because if I talk to my vet friends and I ask them

talk to my vet friends and I ask them

talk to my vet friends and I ask them what is good welfare they’re likely to

what is good welfare they’re likely to

what is good welfare they’re likely to talk about the health of the animal we

talk about the health of the animal we

talk about the health of the animal we want to see an animal that’s free of

want to see an animal that’s free of

want to see an animal that’s free of injury free of disease and probably

injury free of disease and probably

injury free of disease and probably clean in the field of animal behavior in

clean in the field of animal behavior in

clean in the field of animal behavior in welfare we often focus on the animals

welfare we often focus on the animals

welfare we often focus on the animals subjective experience what does that

subjective experience what does that

subjective experience what does that animal feel what does it want I’m

animal feel what does it want I’m

animal feel what does it want I’m driving around on a sunny day and I see

driving around on a sunny day and I see

driving around on a sunny day and I see cows in a field it looks nice but if we

cows in a field it looks nice but if we

cows in a field it looks nice but if we ask the cow herself what she wants

ask the cow herself what she wants

ask the cow herself what she wants actually unbalanced they’ve often prefer

actually unbalanced they’ve often prefer

actually unbalanced they’ve often prefer to be inside out of the hot Sun in a

to be inside out of the hot Sun in a

to be inside out of the hot Sun in a cool barn with food and water and when

cool barn with food and water and when

cool barn with food and water and when we want to tuck our animals in at night

we want to tuck our animals in at night

we want to tuck our animals in at night while they’d often rather be outside

while they’d often rather be outside

while they’d often rather be outside laying in that cool grass in reality

laying in that cool grass in reality

laying in that cool grass in reality good welfare needs to balance all of

good welfare needs to balance all of

good welfare needs to balance all of these approaches we need to have happy

these approaches we need to have happy

these approaches we need to have happy healthy animals that are free to perform

healthy animals that are free to perform

healthy animals that are free to perform natural behaviors dairy farmers have

natural behaviors dairy farmers have

natural behaviors dairy farmers have embraced technology to meet these needs

embraced technology to meet these needs

embraced technology to meet these needs if you go to most dairy farms in the

if you go to most dairy farms in the

if you go to most dairy farms in the Fraser Valley you’ll often see it looks

Fraser Valley you’ll often see it looks

Fraser Valley you’ll often see it looks like a big mechanical brush like

like a big mechanical brush like

like a big mechanical brush like something you’d find in a car wash if

something you’d find in a car wash if

something you’d find in a car wash if you hang around for a minute or two

you hang around for a minute or two

you hang around for a minute or two you’re likely to see one of the girls go

you’re likely to see one of the girls go

you’re likely to see one of the girls go up hit it to start it turning and give

up hit it to start it turning and give

up hit it to start it turning and give herself a good all-over scratch a

herself a good all-over scratch a

herself a good all-over scratch a massage

massage

massage now scratching is important behavior for

now scratching is important behavior for

now scratching is important behavior for cows it also helps keep them cleaner and

cows it also helps keep them cleaner and

cows it also helps keep them cleaner and reduces parasites and if ever you have

reduces parasites and if ever you have

reduces parasites and if ever you have seen a cow use one of these you don’t

seen a cow use one of these you don’t

seen a cow use one of these you don’t need me to tell you that they really

need me to tell you that they really

need me to tell you that they really love it so we also have automated

love it so we also have automated

love it so we also have automated milking systems so rather than the

milking systems so rather than the

milking systems so rather than the farmer coming taking the cow to be

farmer coming taking the cow to be

farmer coming taking the cow to be milked twice a day they have milking

milked twice a day they have milking

milked twice a day they have milking units within the cows pen she can go

units within the cows pen she can go

units within the cows pen she can go whenever she wants to be milked and

whenever she wants to be milked and

whenever she wants to be milked and that’s how it happened

that’s how it happened

that’s how it happened now this is good because the cow is able

now this is good because the cow is able

now this is good because the cow is able to be milked in a more natural schedule

to be milked in a more natural schedule

to be milked in a more natural schedule but what’s really interesting to me is

but what’s really interesting to me is

but what’s really interesting to me is that it changes a relationship with the

that it changes a relationship with the

that it changes a relationship with the car replacing her in as an active

car replacing her in as an active

car replacing her in as an active participant in her own care we wanted to

participant in her own care we wanted to

participant in her own care we wanted to embrace this approach and apply it to

embrace this approach and apply it to

embrace this approach and apply it to the challenge of keeping cows clean now

the challenge of keeping cows clean now

the challenge of keeping cows clean now anyone who’s ever been in a cow barn

anyone who’s ever been in a cow barn

anyone who’s ever been in a cow barn knows that cows produce a lot of manure

knows that cows produce a lot of manure

knows that cows produce a lot of manure cows produce on average around 15 liters

cows produce on average around 15 liters

cows produce on average around 15 liters of urine and 30 kilos of feces that’s

of urine and 30 kilos of feces that’s

of urine and 30 kilos of feces that’s per cow per day so for your average BC

per cow per day so for your average BC

per cow per day so for your average BC farm of say a hundred cows they’re

farm of say a hundred cows they’re

farm of say a hundred cows they’re having to deal with 1500 liters of urine

having to deal with 1500 liters of urine

having to deal with 1500 liters of urine 3,000 kilos of feces every single day

3,000 kilos of feces every single day

3,000 kilos of feces every single day now that is a lot of mess to clean up

now that is a lot of mess to clean up

now that is a lot of mess to clean up and because of this barns are often

and because of this barns are often

and because of this barns are often designed to make removing manure easier

designed to make removing manure easier

designed to make removing manure easier we want to keep the cows out of the

we want to keep the cows out of the

we want to keep the cows out of the manure but some of these designs and

manure but some of these designs and

manure but some of these designs and structures to make removing manure

structures to make removing manure

structures to make removing manure easier can compromise the cows comfort

easier can compromise the cows comfort

easier can compromise the cows comfort and may also restrict her behavioral

and may also restrict her behavioral

and may also restrict her behavioral freedom so what if we could potty train

freedom so what if we could potty train

freedom so what if we could potty train cows

cows

cows potty trained cows would mean it has a

potty trained cows would mean it has a

potty trained cows would mean it has a Barnsley designed around cows not manure

Barnsley designed around cows not manure

Barnsley designed around cows not manure it would mean reduced ammonia emissions

it would mean reduced ammonia emissions

it would mean reduced ammonia emissions it would mean less cost and labor for

it would mean less cost and labor for

it would mean less cost and labor for the farmer I would mean a better

the farmer I would mean a better

the farmer I would mean a better environment for the cows but excitingly

environment for the cows but excitingly

environment for the cows but excitingly it would also provide cognitive

it would also provide cognitive

it would also provide cognitive enrichment for the cow animals love to

enrichment for the cow animals love to

enrichment for the cow animals love to learn and I know cows don’t have a

learn and I know cows don’t have a

learn and I know cows don’t have a reputation for being very smart but that

reputation for being very smart but that

reputation for being very smart but that could not be more wrong

could not be more wrong

could not be more wrong I’d like to share with you a video from

I’d like to share with you a video from

I’d like to share with you a video from the UBC’s animal welfare program which I

the UBC’s animal welfare program which I

the UBC’s animal welfare program which I hope shows you how much they enjoy

hope shows you how much they enjoy

hope shows you how much they enjoy learning so this calf has to touch the

learning so this calf has to touch the

learning so this calf has to touch the starter button on the right this changes

starter button on the right this changes

starter button on the right this changes the colour of the screen if it’s a red

the colour of the screen if it’s a red

the colour of the screen if it’s a red screen she touches it when she gets her

screen she touches it when she gets her

screen she touches it when she gets her milk

milk

milk if it’s a white screen however she has

if it’s a white screen however she has

if it’s a white screen however she has to resist that temptation so they’re not

to resist that temptation so they’re not

to resist that temptation so they’re not so stupid after all it’s okay she gets

so stupid after all it’s okay she gets

so stupid after all it’s okay she gets another red school so cool

another red school so cool

another red school so cool cows are smart but does that mean that

cows are smart but does that mean that

cows are smart but does that mean that can be toilet trained well truth be told

can be toilet trained well truth be told

can be toilet trained well truth be told there wasn’t a whole lot of research on

there wasn’t a whole lot of research on

there wasn’t a whole lot of research on this so we set out to see if it could

this so we set out to see if it could

this so we set out to see if it could work we conducted what we call a proof

work we conducted what we call a proof

work we conducted what we call a proof of principle experiment we wanted just

of principle experiment we wanted just

of principle experiment we wanted just to see if cows could learn to associate

to see if cows could learn to associate

to see if cows could learn to associate a specific location with this behavior

a specific location with this behavior

a specific location with this behavior in this case we chose urination because

in this case we chose urination because

in this case we chose urination because it’s easier to artificially stimulate so

it’s easier to artificially stimulate so

it’s easier to artificially stimulate so we’d bring our calves individually we

we’d bring our calves individually we

we’d bring our calves individually we pop them in their potty stop and we’d

pop them in their potty stop and we’d

pop them in their potty stop and we’d give them a diuretic which just meant

give them a diuretic which just meant

give them a diuretic which just meant they would urinate quicker so they

they would urinate quicker so they

they would urinate quicker so they didn’t have to wait in there too long as

didn’t have to wait in there too long as

didn’t have to wait in there too long as soon as they urinated we released them

soon as they urinated we released them

soon as they urinated we released them they got their milk reward the following

they got their milk reward the following

they got their milk reward the following day would be a test day on the test days

day would be a test day on the test days

day would be a test day on the test days we just put the calf in the stall and we

we just put the calf in the stall and we

we just put the calf in the stall and we waited to see what would happen if the

waited to see what would happen if the

waited to see what would happen if the urinated fantastic we rang the little

urinated fantastic we rang the little

urinated fantastic we rang the little bell we released them they got their

bell we released them they got their

bell we released them they got their milk if they failed to urinate well too

milk if they failed to urinate well too

milk if they failed to urinate well too bad they exited it into a little timeout

bad they exited it into a little timeout

bad they exited it into a little timeout pen and the next day they had another

pen and the next day they had another

pen and the next day they had another training day so did it work this is one

training day so did it work this is one

training day so did it work this is one of our girls you’ll see at the beginning

of our girls you’ll see at the beginning

of our girls you’ll see at the beginning she’s really trying to pee it’s a bit

she’s really trying to pee it’s a bit

she’s really trying to pee it’s a bit like being at the doctor’s when you have

like being at the doctor’s when you have

like being at the doctor’s when you have to pee in a cup sometimes you need a

to pee in a cup sometimes you need a

to pee in a cup sometimes you need a minute or two

minute or two

minute or two this girl’s pedigree name is UBC page

this girl’s pedigree name is UBC page

this girl’s pedigree name is UBC page star and boy did she live up to that

star and boy did she live up to that

star and boy did she live up to that name

name

name she needed just one 15 minute training

she needed just one 15 minute training

she needed just one 15 minute training session she’s about to do her trick here

session she’s about to do her trick here

session she’s about to do her trick here she urinates and she goes out to get her

she urinates and she goes out to get her

she urinates and she goes out to get her award so this calf as I said she just

award so this calf as I said she just

award so this calf as I said she just took one 50-minute training session

took one 50-minute training session

took one 50-minute training session every single day after that we popped

every single day after that we popped

every single day after that we popped her in that stall and she peed and

her in that stall and she peed and

her in that stall and she peed and actually five out of the six calves we

actually five out of the six calves we

actually five out of the six calves we trained urinated more than their

trained urinated more than their

trained urinated more than their controls and this actually got me to

controls and this actually got me to

controls and this actually got me to thinking whether there may be something

thinking whether there may be something

thinking whether there may be something to a name because the one animal who did

to a name because the one animal who did

to a name because the one animal who did not learn well her pedigree name was UBC

not learn well her pedigree name was UBC

not learn well her pedigree name was UBC cage idiot I’m not making this up so

cage idiot I’m not making this up so

cage idiot I’m not making this up so this was all very exciting we proved

this was all very exciting we proved

this was all very exciting we proved that they can do it but realistically we

that they can do it but realistically we

that they can do it but realistically we don’t expect farmers to go around

don’t expect farmers to go around

don’t expect farmers to go around training every single one of their

training every single one of their

training every single one of their calves individually it’s just not

calves individually it’s just not

calves individually it’s just not practical so I turned to technology now

practical so I turned to technology now

practical so I turned to technology now as I said I’m not really that into

as I said I’m not really that into

as I said I’m not really that into technology so I teamed up with UBC’s

technology so I teamed up with UBC’s

technology so I teamed up with UBC’s engineering physics department and an

engineering physics department and an

engineering physics department and an amazing student called John Harvey and

amazing student called John Harvey and

amazing student called John Harvey and together we came up with this this is

together we came up with this this is

together we came up with this this is the interactive camera urination

the interactive camera urination

the interactive camera urination defecation training program as we like

defecation training program as we like

defecation training program as we like to call it the ICU pee so this unit is

to call it the ICU pee so this unit is

to call it the ICU pee so this unit is really for detecting urination

really for detecting urination

really for detecting urination defecation it’s just that piece of the

defecation it’s just that piece of the

defecation it’s just that piece of the puzzle it would be mounted above the

puzzle it would be mounted above the

puzzle it would be mounted above the calves pen and it consists of two

calves pen and it consists of two

calves pen and it consists of two cameras we have a visible light camera

cameras we have a visible light camera

cameras we have a visible light camera and a thermal camera I’ll show you a bit

and a thermal camera I’ll show you a bit

and a thermal camera I’ll show you a bit of what the visible light camera allows

of what the visible light camera allows

of what the visible light camera allows us to do so with this program we throw

us to do so with this program we throw

us to do so with this program we throw out anything that isn’t black or white

out anything that isn’t black or white

out anything that isn’t black or white we clump together the black and white

we clump together the black and white

we clump together the black and white blobs to make this sort of size of a

blobs to make this sort of size of a

blobs to make this sort of size of a calf and it allows us to track

calf and it allows us to track

calf and it allows us to track individual animals as they move around

individual animals as they move around

individual animals as they move around the pen so we know who they are we know

the pen so we know who they are we know

the pen so we know who they are we know where they are with the thermal cameras

where they are with the thermal cameras

where they are with the thermal cameras were able to refine that a bit because

were able to refine that a bit because

were able to refine that a bit because the head of a calf is a little warmer

the head of a calf is a little warmer

the head of a calf is a little warmer than the rest of their body so we can

than the rest of their body so we can

than the rest of their body so we can sort of see what direction they’re going

sort of see what direction they’re going

sort of see what direction they’re going in and the cool thing with the thermal

in and the cool thing with the thermal

in and the cool thing with the thermal camera is because the inside of a cow is

camera is because the inside of a cow is

camera is because the inside of a cow is a lot hotter than the outside when they

a lot hotter than the outside when they

a lot hotter than the outside when they urinate or defecate it shows up bright

urinate or defecate it shows up bright

urinate or defecate it shows up bright spot we look at whose bottom is closest

spot we look at whose bottom is closest

spot we look at whose bottom is closest and we assign it to them so we’re just

and we assign it to them so we’re just

and we assign it to them so we’re just in the process of validating this now

in the process of validating this now

in the process of validating this now the next step will be to give feedback

the next step will be to give feedback

the next step will be to give feedback to the calf to let them know hey you got

to the calf to let them know hey you got

to the calf to let them know hey you got it right and let them go and claim their

it right and let them go and claim their

it right and let them go and claim their rewards

rewards

rewards I really believe it’s just a matter of

I really believe it’s just a matter of

I really believe it’s just a matter of time before we have a fully automated

time before we have a fully automated

time before we have a fully automated potty training cow system that will

potty training cow system that will

potty training cow system that will allow us to train and collect

allow us to train and collect

allow us to train and collect automatically reducing emissions

automatically reducing emissions

automatically reducing emissions reducing labor and improving lives for

reducing labor and improving lives for

reducing labor and improving lives for cars technology doesn’t have to be scary

cars technology doesn’t have to be scary

cars technology doesn’t have to be scary and I think the way in which we’re using

and I think the way in which we’re using

and I think the way in which we’re using technology can change it doesn’t just

technology can change it doesn’t just

technology can change it doesn’t just have to be for automating things that we

have to be for automating things that we

have to be for automating things that we already do it can be for approaching a

already do it can be for approaching a

already do it can be for approaching a problem in a whole new way I really

problem in a whole new way I really

problem in a whole new way I really believe that technology and

believe that technology and

believe that technology and out-of-the-box thinking hold the key to

out-of-the-box thinking hold the key to

out-of-the-box thinking hold the key to restoring the balance in a relationship

restoring the balance in a relationship

restoring the balance in a relationship with the animals that produce our food

with the animals that produce our food

with the animals that produce our food and I think that’s something we all have

and I think that’s something we all have

and I think that’s something we all have a moral responsibility to care about

a moral responsibility to care about

a moral responsibility to care about thank you

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