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Nada por lo que matar o morir | José María Rodríguez | TEDxBariloche


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in my document in my document says ex

fighter hero of the war of the

Falkland Islands

the one that appears that text was a

option and I agreed it filled me with

pride today

today I do not feel rb

today I know that he was a victim victim of

a war

I want to tell you a story that

begins the first day of first grade

when I met Alejandro we became

friends we put our nicknames toad

and big-headed we did school together

first friend with 18 years did not reach the

compulsory military service in the

Argentinian army

we started the colimba runs clean barre

in Mar del Plata a week they gave us

seven days of license to render

entrance exam at university

this was in March 82

we returned and on April 2, 1982 the

Argentine armed forces in an attempt

to maintain the civic-military dictatorship

they forcibly regained control of

the Falkland Islands that was in hands

of England with less than a month

have entered the service without

instruction without being soldiers not

they selected to go to war

after preparing the accoutrements that

we had to bring clothes and weapons that we

we had used they gave us a couple of

days so that we go to say goodbye

our family was holy week not

I could distinguish a sergeant from a

Captain did not know how to distinguish an airplane

Argentine from an English airplane

and that was our mission in barinas

knock down English planes at the first

plane that shoot

It was an Argentine airplane

when you get to the islands

we got off the plane and in one night

closed

I had never been in such

darkness

In the distance I could distinguish the voice of light

of the village a penumbra

but I could not see the back that

candel soldier who walked before me

only tiny sparks that produced

the new shoes

I felt helpless against the asphalt

delivered and lost we find ourselves with

the equipment to be used in a system

very modern latest technology was

composed of two antiaircraft guns

of 35 millimeters as a machine gun

giants that shot a thousand 100

ammunition per minute

these guns were controlled

directed from a motor home called

shooting director who had prada of

video camera scan

computer weather station

generator set a very system

modern

the first is that inside there is in malvinas

to the shooting director I feel in the

desk in the operator post and I

Surprise was very similar to missile

command and eat a little game

electronic that he knew very well

because he had worked during the year

previous in sack in the games

electronic

one already warned by radio or looked in

the radar screen if there was any

target entering the 16 kilometers

that we had reach with a joystick it

positions a cross on the target and

the cameras that showed it in the first

flat and simply by pressing a button

the two guns that were 300

meters

they shot with a lot of precision

against the plane but they had

they also shot us and the

great difference with the little game was that

we did not have three lives in our

position waiting for the arrival of the

english fleet

we continue with the hope of not

enter combat that someone stops

war

the first of May at night

lit up over the airport in the distance

like fireworks pulled him out

Alejandro from the tent he was

sleeping and looked absorbed the

explosions and the traces of

combat munitions made us fall

in reality the war came

Then came the ships arriving

to the coast and they fired until they

tired there they informed us that no

we had brought long cannons

scope

everything was difficult we did not have anything not

planned where are we going to eat sleep or

go to the bathroom

66 days like that I had toothache not

there was a dentist

we slept and took off our helmet or

boots in wells or makeshift shelters

with drums

everything was very difficult to live several

wars the cold the hunger the lack of

injustice professionalism of my

superiors and the war

I thought about killing myself that suffering

I will finish but I chose to fight to live

well we spent the short days and

long nights under the bombing of the

ships and the attack of the planes

the last and eternal night of combat and

the English had landed and

they advanced

we already knew that he makes war

she was lost they had already made head

of beach were advancing towards port

Argentine already had them very close

bombings of mortars were already

nearby were a few kilometers away

the anti-aircraft guns we threw

land earth without knowing where it was

where the English came from without

aim without knowing if there was own troop

or only English and we stop until the

cannons did not give anymore they broke

Oh, I put myself in a well in a shelter

only total darkness

I find a can of sweet quince

sugary hugged me to the can and I

I ate all the candy I remembered the pasta

frola breast quince

the splinters hit the

shelter walls the end of the

war or death was near by the

tomorrow the bombing subsided and arrived

finally the order to retreat towards

Argentine port

there they gave us the ceasefire

surrender soldiers soldiers

Englishmen walked down the street as if

nothing was coming we looked at each other

some photos were taken that happened from

yesterday to today yesterday we shot ourselves

today there is no hatred that war returns to

our houses was close

luck was on the side of those who

we manage to survive but how they hurt

those that remained in malvinas for

always

I never imagined what it hurt to return

It cost a lot to go back to live in

society

I came back with 15 kilos less and my head

burned the first months I repeated

you have to forget nothing happened

already finished a lot of time standing in front

the refrigerator in the house mom worried

because the food is missing

I felt helpless again

I ‘m going to buy a weapon to defend myself

and they did not sell it to me because it was less than

age

the ex-combatants started to get together

speak not to be silent even though we

they had prohibited talking

we formed the centers of former soldiers

true fighters centers of

self help

we started fighting to march and what

we achieve

society was not becoming in

heroes and I believed it but there were

something that was not right

in spite of everything I feel a very

lucky

just returned I found the love of my

life my road companion

we formed a beautiful family we had the

twins they contain me many years

containing me

I worked always always worked

hope but I do not like

injustices with alex we are still

great friends

he is my brother of life and I want

tell them a milestone something that changed my

life for years with alejandro

we dream and plan to go back to

Malvinas wanted to return the two alone

and we did it in April 2014

32 years later we did not know to what

but we knew we had to go back

before landing through the window of the

plane I’m surprised Malvina has

colors

It was amazing but our in our

heads all the memories were in

black and white

We toured the town battlefields

mined areas beautiful sandy beaches

white where we went there

scars of war every bombshell

is there has turned into craters

flooded like open pits waiting

the islanders treated us well there is no

I hate only bad memories

we found our place our well

that were one of the objectives and there

we found the remains of drums and that

day having lunch on some stones at a

side on a hill with german

we talked that we could not understand

how we survived in 66 days so there

in the middle of nowhere

On April 2 we paid our tribute

We went to the Argentine cemetery in Darwin

and we sing the Argentine national anthem

we both cry we hugged each other

only the whisper that accompanied us

causes the wind in the rosaries

hanging from the crosses

we already did close avaya san carlos where

disembarked and stopped in front of

small cemetery of English soldiers

resonate with our anthem or swear

with glory die or swear with glory

die in front of so many deaths

graves did not make any sense

we leave falklands full of scars

but this time when returning home

something changed do not act for hero I did not go

a hero

I did what I could do and I know what I

played did I did the best I could

thinking about coming back thinking of me

family thinking about suffering the least

possible not to choose in the acts of 2 of

April pays homage to veterans

of war and those who lost or gave

life for the fatherland parents mix

and his sons soldiers who can talk

soldiers who can not talk

military repentant military

proud heroes victims and cowards

we speak of sovereignty of the deed

Malvinas talks about the war they talk about

of the boys of the war they talk about

heroes talk about patriotism

speaks of colonialism and promises

policies nothing so kill or die

says lennon in picture nothing so

kill or die and I think – send to kill

or die

how many would leave an 18-year-old son

go to war

it was not defending the homeland many times

you heard the war is useless

everyone loses

nobody wins but when you talk about the

Falkland Islands war

for now the fallen for respect to the

that we fight or what do I know because

Patriotic deed talks about the main thing

that we have the most valuable thing is our

lifetime

I’m talking about valuing life

we come to the world to live and to live together and

in the middle in life they make us believe

different nationality race sex

religion to 35 years of the war

to have realized that it was not a

gesta that was a war is my battle

earned

I do not feel like a hero no hero

I could feel pain

today I am closer to the path of

find peace for years I could not

try the quince jelly

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josé what do you think they ‘re going to feel or

they are feeling ex-combatants then

to see this talk is a very

difficult

I am aware that I am

he played dancing with one of the ugliest

there are many ex-combatants who are

proud and what happened not so bad

in malvinas or had a bad time but it

they feel very well that they feel a lot

proud of having done that but there

some that do not and that have not yet been able

talk or they do not feel good and I think

that this can help them to

they do not feel good and I think too

which serves for society to have a

little bit of different consciousness

the noise at the beginning in the

acts of April 2 and I want to want

propose is my next goal is that

on April 2 let’s make a march in

against wars not an act of

vindication of the war

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