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[Music] well Christina spoke about Iran a

well Christina spoke about Iran a

well Christina spoke about Iran a muslim-majority country let me expand it

muslim-majority country let me expand it

muslim-majority country let me expand it to include the entire Muslim

to include the entire Muslim

to include the entire Muslim Commonwealth and how it’s being

Commonwealth and how it’s being

Commonwealth and how it’s being presented and represented to us when it

presented and represented to us when it

presented and represented to us when it comes to the question of what are we

comes to the question of what are we

comes to the question of what are we talking about when it comes to Muslims

talking about when it comes to Muslims

talking about when it comes to Muslims in Islam the first question is how many

in Islam the first question is how many

in Islam the first question is how many Muslims do we have in the world and the

Muslims do we have in the world and the

Muslims do we have in the world and the answer is we don’t know because no one

answer is we don’t know because no one

answer is we don’t know because no one can count all of them but at least we

can count all of them but at least we

can count all of them but at least we can presume or we have a conventional

can presume or we have a conventional

can presume or we have a conventional number and it’s 1.7 billion if he tried

number and it’s 1.7 billion if he tried

number and it’s 1.7 billion if he tried to translate it into percentage it’s

to translate it into percentage it’s

to translate it into percentage it’s almost a quarter of a population and the

almost a quarter of a population and the

almost a quarter of a population and the demographic Institute’s they predict

demographic Institute’s they predict

demographic Institute’s they predict that it’s going to rise so that by

that it’s going to rise so that by

that it’s going to rise so that by sometime we’ll reach a third of the

sometime we’ll reach a third of the

sometime we’ll reach a third of the human race it’s a fairly big number have

human race it’s a fairly big number have

human race it’s a fairly big number have to admit now when it comes to the

to admit now when it comes to the

to admit now when it comes to the countries that are Muslim majority

countries that are Muslim majority

countries that are Muslim majority countries it’s once again almost a

countries it’s once again almost a

countries it’s once again almost a quarter of all the world’s countries so

quarter of all the world’s countries so

quarter of all the world’s countries so it’s around 50 plus if we think that

it’s around 50 plus if we think that

it’s around 50 plus if we think that it’s about 200 countries that we have in

it’s about 200 countries that we have in

it’s about 200 countries that we have in the world although we have a bit more

the world although we have a bit more

the world although we have a bit more now many people believe that the

now many people believe that the

now many people believe that the demographic center of Islam is in the

demographic center of Islam is in the

demographic center of Islam is in the Arab world or in the Middle East but

Arab world or in the Middle East but

Arab world or in the Middle East but then they are wrong hopefully none of

then they are wrong hopefully none of

then they are wrong hopefully none of you thought so because the demographic

you thought so because the demographic

you thought so because the demographic center of Islam is in South and

center of Islam is in South and

center of Islam is in South and Southeast Asia with Indonesia being the

Southeast Asia with Indonesia being the

Southeast Asia with Indonesia being the largest Muslim country with over 220

largest Muslim country with over 220

largest Muslim country with over 220 million people who are Muslim because

million people who are Muslim because

million people who are Muslim because not all the people Indonesia are Muslim

not all the people Indonesia are Muslim

not all the people Indonesia are Muslim but majority are so it’s just one

but majority are so it’s just one

but majority are so it’s just one country that has 220 million then if you

country that has 220 million then if you

country that has 220 million then if you go to Pakistan which is approaching fast

go to Pakistan which is approaching fast

go to Pakistan which is approaching fast approaching 200 million then he have

approaching 200 million then he have

approaching 200 million then he have India which is admittedly not a Muslim

India which is admittedly not a Muslim

India which is admittedly not a Muslim majority country you have to make clear

majority country you have to make clear

majority country you have to make clear in this but it has a range of 170

in this but it has a range of 170

in this but it has a range of 170 million Muslim population and then

million Muslim population and then

million Muslim population and then Bangladesh which is also around 170

Bangladesh which is also around 170

Bangladesh which is also around 170 million so roughly Counting if we say

million so roughly Counting if we say

million so roughly Counting if we say Indonesia Pakistan India and Bangladesh

Indonesia Pakistan India and Bangladesh

Indonesia Pakistan India and Bangladesh will already have 700 million

will already have 700 million

will already have 700 million people if you add several other

people if you add several other

people if you add several other countries that contain either majorities

countries that contain either majorities

countries that contain either majorities or at least big numbers of Muslims its

or at least big numbers of Muslims its

or at least big numbers of Muslims its Nigeria with something like 90 million

Nigeria with something like 90 million

Nigeria with something like 90 million by now probably then of course Iran

by now probably then of course Iran

by now probably then of course Iran comes in with some 18 million and so on

comes in with some 18 million and so on

comes in with some 18 million and so on so with eight countries you probably

so with eight countries you probably

so with eight countries you probably have half of the Muslim population and

have half of the Muslim population and

have half of the Muslim population and only Egypt Iran and Turkey each with

only Egypt Iran and Turkey each with

only Egypt Iran and Turkey each with almost 80 million Muslims are in the

almost 80 million Muslims are in the

almost 80 million Muslims are in the Middle East so the majority of Muslims

Middle East so the majority of Muslims

Middle East so the majority of Muslims of the world’s Muslims today don’t even

of the world’s Muslims today don’t even

of the world’s Muslims today don’t even live in the Middle East they live

live in the Middle East they live

live in the Middle East they live somewhere else and you may ask

somewhere else and you may ask

somewhere else and you may ask yourselves how much have you heard about

yourselves how much have you heard about

yourselves how much have you heard about those countries and the people living

those countries and the people living

those countries and the people living there but on the other hand of course

there but on the other hand of course

there but on the other hand of course when we come to thinking about Muslims

when we come to thinking about Muslims

when we come to thinking about Muslims in Islam I need to admit and you

in Islam I need to admit and you

in Islam I need to admit and you probably would also go along that this

probably would also go along that this

probably would also go along that this ample reporting of Muslims in Islam I

ample reporting of Muslims in Islam I

ample reporting of Muslims in Islam I mean probably not a day passes without

mean probably not a day passes without

mean probably not a day passes without us hearing on Muslims and Islam whatever

us hearing on Muslims and Islam whatever

us hearing on Muslims and Islam whatever that might be I’m not suggesting

that might be I’m not suggesting

that might be I’m not suggesting necessarily all the bad things but in

necessarily all the bad things but in

necessarily all the bad things but in general so we might even say that

general so we might even say that

general so we might even say that believers of no other religion received

believers of no other religion received

believers of no other religion received this much public attention as Muslims

this much public attention as Muslims

this much public attention as Muslims have you heard about Hindus or Buddhists

have you heard about Hindus or Buddhists

have you heard about Hindus or Buddhists recently some of you might have of

recently some of you might have of

recently some of you might have of course if you search for them you do

course if you search for them you do

course if you search for them you do find information I’m not suggesting that

find information I’m not suggesting that

find information I’m not suggesting that there’s no information it’s just that

there’s no information it’s just that

there’s no information it’s just that it’s not sort of being forwarded to us

it’s not sort of being forwarded to us

it’s not sort of being forwarded to us we don’t sort of get it even if we don’t

we don’t sort of get it even if we don’t

we don’t sort of get it even if we don’t necessarily look for it but what is

necessarily look for it but what is

necessarily look for it but what is interesting that much of the information

interesting that much of the information

interesting that much of the information reporting on Muslims is actually on a

reporting on Muslims is actually on a

reporting on Muslims is actually on a particular specific category of people

particular specific category of people

particular specific category of people who are associated with Islam namely

who are associated with Islam namely

who are associated with Islam namely jihadis if you retrace what you have

jihadis if you retrace what you have

jihadis if you retrace what you have heard recently on Islam Muslims it’s

heard recently on Islam Muslims it’s

heard recently on Islam Muslims it’s about the bad people or if you want bad

about the bad people or if you want bad

about the bad people or if you want bad Muslims and I don’t necessarily suggest

Muslims and I don’t necessarily suggest

Muslims and I don’t necessarily suggest that could be bad Muslims so I would say

that could be bad Muslims so I would say

that could be bad Muslims so I would say this is paradox that purportedly

this is paradox that purportedly

this is paradox that purportedly increasing cultural awareness through

increasing cultural awareness through

increasing cultural awareness through this reporting and information and

this reporting and information and

this reporting and information and access to that information of and

access to that information of and

access to that information of and knowledge about Muslims and Islam in the

knowledge about Muslims and Islam in the

knowledge about Muslims and Islam in the West is in fact counterproductive as it

West is in fact counterproductive as it

West is in fact counterproductive as it entrenches their stigmatization and

entrenches their stigmatization and

entrenches their stigmatization and other

other

other so the paradox is we have so much

so the paradox is we have so much

so the paradox is we have so much information and reporting on Islam we

information and reporting on Islam we

information and reporting on Islam we might presume we know now much better

might presume we know now much better

might presume we know now much better because if I asked you about Hinduism is

because if I asked you about Hinduism is

because if I asked you about Hinduism is it well you know I don’t know I haven’t

it well you know I don’t know I haven’t

it well you know I don’t know I haven’t heard anything so I just don’t know have

heard anything so I just don’t know have

heard anything so I just don’t know have you heard about Muslims and Islam sure

you heard about Muslims and Islam sure

you heard about Muslims and Islam sure absolutely so you know and I don’t think

absolutely so you know and I don’t think

absolutely so you know and I don’t think we know I’m not saying you don’t know

we know I’m not saying you don’t know

we know I’m not saying you don’t know but we generally in the West know so

but we generally in the West know so

but we generally in the West know so with increase of reporting and knowledge

with increase of reporting and knowledge

with increase of reporting and knowledge somehow seems not increase that’s the

somehow seems not increase that’s the

somehow seems not increase that’s the paradox that I find and the dilemma that

paradox that I find and the dilemma that

paradox that I find and the dilemma that I personally see is that the Western

I personally see is that the Western

I personally see is that the Western public then you may decide whether you

public then you may decide whether you

public then you may decide whether you belong to that Western public oscillates

belong to that Western public oscillates

belong to that Western public oscillates between two extremes of presentation of

between two extremes of presentation of

between two extremes of presentation of Muslims in Islam on the one hand we have

Muslims in Islam on the one hand we have

Muslims in Islam on the one hand we have what I have termed as the moral panic

what I have termed as the moral panic

what I have termed as the moral panic all Muslims are at least potentially

all Muslims are at least potentially

all Muslims are at least potentially radical read jihadis are representative

radical read jihadis are representative

radical read jihadis are representative of them and then Islam is a religion of

of them and then Islam is a religion of

of them and then Islam is a religion of war violence whatever you want right but

war violence whatever you want right but

war violence whatever you want right but then the other extremists were which I

then the other extremists were which I

then the other extremists were which I have termed as apologetic it’s look you

have termed as apologetic it’s look you

have termed as apologetic it’s look you know jihad is they’re not even Muslims

know jihad is they’re not even Muslims

know jihad is they’re not even Muslims read real Muslims may not be radical and

read real Muslims may not be radical and

read real Muslims may not be radical and Islam is actually a religion of peace

Islam is actually a religion of peace

Islam is actually a religion of peace and I think we’re in trouble here if we

and I think we’re in trouble here if we

and I think we’re in trouble here if we see only those two extremes whichever we

see only those two extremes whichever we

see only those two extremes whichever we choose either jihadists are not only

choose either jihadists are not only

choose either jihadists are not only Muslim but they are actually

Muslim but they are actually

Muslim but they are actually representative of all the Muslims and

representative of all the Muslims and

representative of all the Muslims and Islam or Jui how does that have nothing

Islam or Jui how does that have nothing

Islam or Jui how does that have nothing to do with Islam and the real Muslims

to do with Islam and the real Muslims

to do with Islam and the real Muslims are completely different I think then we

are completely different I think then we

are completely different I think then we missed the point because then we see in

missed the point because then we see in

missed the point because then we see in black and white whichever the two you

black and white whichever the two you

black and white whichever the two you consider to be black and white and we

consider to be black and white and we

consider to be black and white and we don’t get the point as to how complex

don’t get the point as to how complex

don’t get the point as to how complex how colorful and fascinating the Muslim

how colorful and fascinating the Muslim

how colorful and fascinating the Muslim Commonwealth I might say has become if

Commonwealth I might say has become if

Commonwealth I might say has become if you want but it also has been that way

you want but it also has been that way

you want but it also has been that way for a while so a rhetorical question of

for a while so a rhetorical question of

for a while so a rhetorical question of who is what poor what describes Muslims

who is what poor what describes Muslims

who is what poor what describes Muslims in Islam who a what represent or

in Islam who a what represent or

in Islam who a what represent or represents Islam and Muslims whenever we

represents Islam and Muslims whenever we

represents Islam and Muslims whenever we talk we hear talk of Muslims a

talk we hear talk of Muslims a

talk we hear talk of Muslims a discussion an analytical approach or

discussion an analytical approach or

discussion an analytical approach or whatever we very often hear these

whatever we very often hear these

whatever we very often hear these convenient divides

convenient divides

convenient divides well you know they’re liberal Muslims of

well you know they’re liberal Muslims of

well you know they’re liberal Muslims of course versus conservative and the

course versus conservative and the

course versus conservative and the liberal are probably the better ones or

liberal are probably the better ones or

liberal are probably the better ones or at least we like them better and they’re

at least we like them better and they’re

at least we like them better and they’re you know less troublesome than the

you know less troublesome than the

you know less troublesome than the modern Muslims whoever they might be

modern Muslims whoever they might be

modern Muslims whoever they might be and a traditionalists who are

and a traditionalists who are

and a traditionalists who are troublesome and you could go on and on

troublesome and you could go on and on

troublesome and you could go on and on rich versus poor bad educated versus

rich versus poor bad educated versus

rich versus poor bad educated versus less educated urbanites versus

less educated urbanites versus

less educated urbanites versus Prevention’s but even worse I would say

Prevention’s but even worse I would say

Prevention’s but even worse I would say and I emphasize worse is the convenient

and I emphasize worse is the convenient

and I emphasize worse is the convenient labels sunni versus xi a very often get

labels sunni versus xi a very often get

labels sunni versus xi a very often get asked by journalists what we have been

asked by journalists what we have been

asked by journalists what we have been seeing you know anywhere cut that Iran

seeing you know anywhere cut that Iran

seeing you know anywhere cut that Iran Saudi Arabia or elsewhere isn’t that

Saudi Arabia or elsewhere isn’t that

Saudi Arabia or elsewhere isn’t that between Sunni and Shia

between Sunni and Shia

between Sunni and Shia it’s so relevant these labels are

it’s so relevant these labels are

it’s so relevant these labels are irrelevant if you come to think about

irrelevant if you come to think about

irrelevant if you come to think about the Islamic state and the people it has

the Islamic state and the people it has

the Islamic state and the people it has been torturing and killing if we say

been torturing and killing if we say

been torturing and killing if we say that Islamic state is Sunni if someone

that Islamic state is Sunni if someone

that Islamic state is Sunni if someone thinks so then it’s the Sunnis who

thinks so then it’s the Sunnis who

thinks so then it’s the Sunnis who suffer most so it’s so irrelevant but

suffer most so it’s so irrelevant but

suffer most so it’s so irrelevant but even better you know you know inverted

even better you know you know inverted

even better you know you know inverted sense fundamentalist extremist Islamist

sense fundamentalist extremist Islamist

sense fundamentalist extremist Islamist terrorist whatever you want

terrorist whatever you want

terrorist whatever you want we have these very convenient labels we

we have these very convenient labels we

we have these very convenient labels we go by

go by

go by we’re being socialized into them and if

we’re being socialized into them and if

we’re being socialized into them and if I’m may use the social constructivist

I’m may use the social constructivist

I’m may use the social constructivist framework we’re led to believe that they

framework we’re led to believe that they

framework we’re led to believe that they the labels I mean carry contents and

the labels I mean carry contents and

the labels I mean carry contents and they don’t they’re often not always but

they don’t they’re often not always but

they don’t they’re often not always but they’re often they don’t so what is it

they’re often they don’t so what is it

they’re often they don’t so what is it to be a Muslim today well we could think

to be a Muslim today well we could think

to be a Muslim today well we could think along certain lines dimensions the

along certain lines dimensions the

along certain lines dimensions the classical dimensions of Islam the legal

classical dimensions of Islam the legal

classical dimensions of Islam the legal schools some of you might be aware of

schools some of you might be aware of

schools some of you might be aware of these Messiah as they call in Arabic the

these Messiah as they call in Arabic the

these Messiah as they call in Arabic the legal traditions there are a number of

legal traditions there are a number of

legal traditions there are a number of them they have been around for a

them they have been around for a

them they have been around for a thousand plus years and they’re still

thousand plus years and they’re still

thousand plus years and they’re still there the mystical dimension of Islam

there the mystical dimension of Islam

there the mystical dimension of Islam and many of you might be familiar with

and many of you might be familiar with

and many of you might be familiar with it through the word where the title of

it through the word where the title of

it through the word where the title of Sufism those of you have traveled to

Sufism those of you have traveled to

Sufism those of you have traveled to Konya might have seen of levy dervishes

Konya might have seen of levy dervishes

Konya might have seen of levy dervishes and they are just an example of Sufism

and they are just an example of Sufism

and they are just an example of Sufism folk Islam that so-called living local

folk Islam that so-called living local

folk Islam that so-called living local Islam

Islam

Islam of course we may talk of modernizing

of course we may talk of modernizing

of course we may talk of modernizing trends through westernization

trends through westernization

trends through westernization secularization all the way to the point

secularization all the way to the point

secularization all the way to the point of post religiousness it’s very often

of post religiousness it’s very often

of post religiousness it’s very often when we think about Muslims in Islam we

when we think about Muslims in Islam we

when we think about Muslims in Islam we think along the terms okay Muslim well

think along the terms okay Muslim well

think along the terms okay Muslim well believer can a Muslim be non-believer

believer can a Muslim be non-believer

believer can a Muslim be non-believer why not can Christians be non-believers

why not can Christians be non-believers

why not can Christians be non-believers or at least not religious the answer is

or at least not religious the answer is

or at least not religious the answer is yes why not

yes why not

yes why not of course I have to admit we may talk of

of course I have to admit we may talk of

of course I have to admit we may talk of fundamentalists even Islamists and

fundamentalists even Islamists and

fundamentalists even Islamists and jihadis yes no denial that there are

jihadis yes no denial that there are

jihadis yes no denial that there are people whom we may call jihadis but if

people whom we may call jihadis but if

people whom we may call jihadis but if you come to think about the numbers how

you come to think about the numbers how

you come to think about the numbers how many of those very very really literally

many of those very very really literally

many of those very very really literally bad people they might be out there if we

bad people they might be out there if we

bad people they might be out there if we say it’s 1% remember 1.7 billion it’s a

say it’s 1% remember 1.7 billion it’s a

say it’s 1% remember 1.7 billion it’s a fairly big number one percent I would

fairly big number one percent I would

fairly big number one percent I would say that if we could agree that there

say that if we could agree that there

say that if we could agree that there might be out there a hundred seventy

might be out there a hundred seventy

might be out there a hundred seventy thousand jihadis the people who are

thousand jihadis the people who are

thousand jihadis the people who are ready to kill themselves while killing

ready to kill themselves while killing

ready to kill themselves while killing the other 170,000 people this is a very

the other 170,000 people this is a very

the other 170,000 people this is a very big number but if you translate into

big number but if you translate into

big number but if you translate into percentage its point zero zero one

percentage its point zero zero one

percentage its point zero zero one percent one hundred seventy thousand is

percent one hundred seventy thousand is

percent one hundred seventy thousand is a big number I have to admit but

a big number I have to admit but

a big number I have to admit but percentage-wise

percentage-wise

percentage-wise it’s just a fringe group so we have a

it’s just a fringe group so we have a

it’s just a fringe group so we have a funny shared game here the silent really

funny shared game here the silent really

funny shared game here the silent really reported on majority the legal is the

reported on majority the legal is the

reported on majority the legal is the traditionalist so whatever they are

traditionalist so whatever they are

traditionalist so whatever they are called is there and it’s the majority

called is there and it’s the majority

called is there and it’s the majority but we don’t really hear about them that

but we don’t really hear about them that

but we don’t really hear about them that often we never really hear about the

often we never really hear about the

often we never really hear about the minorities about those alternative

minorities about those alternative

minorities about those alternative religiosity or even you know agnostics

religiosity or even you know agnostics

religiosity or even you know agnostics maybe even out the state’s among Muslims

maybe even out the state’s among Muslims

maybe even out the state’s among Muslims no they don’t count although

no they don’t count although

no they don’t count although individually their groups might be small

individually their groups might be small

individually their groups might be small but collectively that make it feel a big

but collectively that make it feel a big

but collectively that make it feel a big share but we never hear about them so

share but we never hear about them so

share but we never hear about them so who do we hear about the jihadis it’s

who do we hear about the jihadis it’s

who do we hear about the jihadis it’s those people who have stolen the show

those people who have stolen the show

those people who have stolen the show who have taken the seat of

who have taken the seat of

who have taken the seat of representatives of Islam and Muslims all

representatives of Islam and Muslims all

representatives of Islam and Muslims all at the expense of all the other

at the expense of all the other

at the expense of all the other majorities and minorities together

majorities and minorities together

majorities and minorities together and I find it a very big problem no

and I find it a very big problem no

and I find it a very big problem no denial that there is this group which is

denial that there is this group which is

denial that there is this group which is very problematic which needs to be

very problematic which needs to be

very problematic which needs to be tackled and so on that’s it but how come

tackled and so on that’s it but how come

tackled and so on that’s it but how come they have come to represent all the

they have come to represent all the

they have come to represent all the Muslim Commonwealth I don’t get it

Muslim Commonwealth I don’t get it

Muslim Commonwealth I don’t get it well I do get it because it’s in the

well I do get it because it’s in the

well I do get it because it’s in the media on the lips of politicians and so

media on the lips of politicians and so

media on the lips of politicians and so on but then you feel that this this

on but then you feel that this this

on but then you feel that this this inverted representativeness where a very

inverted representativeness where a very

inverted representativeness where a very non representative group actually what

non representative group actually what

non representative group actually what mine claim to be representative but we

mine claim to be representative but we

mine claim to be representative but we go along and we actually and trust them

go along and we actually and trust them

go along and we actually and trust them with this you know sort of leadership

with this you know sort of leadership

with this you know sort of leadership card or title which they don’t deserve

card or title which they don’t deserve

card or title which they don’t deserve we know that so but where is the real

we know that so but where is the real

we know that so but where is the real problem then I would say it’s of course

problem then I would say it’s of course

problem then I would say it’s of course not so much in the volume of reporting

not so much in the volume of reporting

not so much in the volume of reporting that’s even too much information on

that’s even too much information on

that’s even too much information on Islam Muslims isn’t it or particularly

Islam Muslims isn’t it or particularly

Islam Muslims isn’t it or particularly on individual Muslims a guy there out in

on individual Muslims a guy there out in

on individual Muslims a guy there out in the suburbs of Brussels who you know

the suburbs of Brussels who you know

the suburbs of Brussels who you know used to play football then he didn’t

used to play football then he didn’t

used to play football then he didn’t play football he used to eat something

play football he used to eat something

play football he used to eat something that he didn’t and so on it’s like do we

that he didn’t and so on it’s like do we

that he didn’t and so on it’s like do we really need that information

really need that information

really need that information it obscures this big picture which is a

it obscures this big picture which is a

it obscures this big picture which is a set very colorful very interesting which

set very colorful very interesting which

set very colorful very interesting which may not only maybe needs to be realized

may not only maybe needs to be realized

may not only maybe needs to be realized and I’m glad listen I just showed you

and I’m glad listen I just showed you

and I’m glad listen I just showed you how she personally realized that that

how she personally realized that that

how she personally realized that that the diversity the difference even if you

the diversity the difference even if you

the diversity the difference even if you want which is out there and those of you

want which is out there and those of you

want which is out there and those of you have traveled to the Middle East and

have traveled to the Middle East and

have traveled to the Middle East and elsewhere to the Muslim majority

elsewhere to the Muslim majority

elsewhere to the Muslim majority countries you must have realized that

countries you must have realized that

countries you must have realized that the reporting on Muslims in Islam and

the reporting on Muslims in Islam and

the reporting on Muslims in Islam and your experiences probably diverged

your experiences probably diverged

your experiences probably diverged greatly and this has been what I have

greatly and this has been what I have

greatly and this has been what I have been experiencing traveling living and

been experiencing traveling living and

been experiencing traveling living and so on and it’s you think that it’s two

so on and it’s you think that it’s two

so on and it’s you think that it’s two realities so it’s not so much about the

realities so it’s not so much about the

realities so it’s not so much about the volume as probably about the contents

volume as probably about the contents

volume as probably about the contents and when I say contents it’s the target

and when I say contents it’s the target

and when I say contents it’s the target groups if you want the people who are

groups if you want the people who are

groups if you want the people who are being reported on so it’s about the

being reported on so it’s about the

being reported on so it’s about the contents but also about the intention

contents but also about the intention

contents but also about the intention and I always wonder what is the

and I always wonder what is the

and I always wonder what is the intention on reporting in reporting on

intention on reporting in reporting on

intention on reporting in reporting on Muslims in Islam is really to report on

Muslims in Islam is really to report on

Muslims in Islam is really to report on or is it to let the people get what they

or is it to let the people get what they

or is it to let the people get what they expect so this is a nexus between

expect so this is a nexus between

expect so this is a nexus between expectations or supply and demand sort

expectations or supply and demand sort

expectations or supply and demand sort of Nexus where people in the West seem

of Nexus where people in the West seem

of Nexus where people in the West seem to expect the news on bad Muslims now if

to expect the news on bad Muslims now if

to expect the news on bad Muslims now if I told you about punk bands somewhere in

I told you about punk bands somewhere in

I told you about punk bands somewhere in a Muslim world or about even Satanists

a Muslim world or about even Satanists

a Muslim world or about even Satanists in Morocco or heavy metal bands and

in Morocco or heavy metal bands and

in Morocco or heavy metal bands and festivals in Iraq what is this do that

festivals in Iraq what is this do that

festivals in Iraq what is this do that they do they do anything and everything

they do they do anything and everything

they do they do anything and everything how come we allow ourselves to believe

how come we allow ourselves to believe

how come we allow ourselves to believe that we can be whatever we want whatever

that we can be whatever we want whatever

that we can be whatever we want whatever we choose to be and they for whatever

we choose to be and they for whatever

we choose to be and they for whatever reason don’t know which reason but they

reason don’t know which reason but they

reason don’t know which reason but they cannot be what they want they can and in

cannot be what they want they can and in

cannot be what they want they can and in fact what is even more interesting they

fact what is even more interesting they

fact what is even more interesting they are it’s only that we somehow mentally

are it’s only that we somehow mentally

are it’s only that we somehow mentally deny them that ability or capability to

deny them that ability or capability to

deny them that ability or capability to be what they might want to be but they

be what they might want to be but they

be what they might want to be but they are so what is it for us it is to go out

are so what is it for us it is to go out

are so what is it for us it is to go out maybe even physically Savior and

maybe even physically Savior and

maybe even physically Savior and experience that diversity of the Muslim

experience that diversity of the Muslim

experience that diversity of the Muslim Commonwealth and I don’t suggest all of

Commonwealth and I don’t suggest all of

Commonwealth and I don’t suggest all of it is pleasant no but much of it is

it is pleasant no but much of it is

it is pleasant no but much of it is really very pleasant nice welcoming of

really very pleasant nice welcoming of

really very pleasant nice welcoming of us and we should be welcoming of them we

us and we should be welcoming of them we

us and we should be welcoming of them we need to go out there and be trustful of

need to go out there and be trustful of

need to go out there and be trustful of them so that they can be trustful of us

them so that they can be trustful of us

them so that they can be trustful of us thank you