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my name is Cowell and when it’s night or

my name is Cowell and when it’s night or when the moon is shining bright and all

when the moon is shining bright and all

when the moon is shining bright and all the men have gone to bed I stay up late

the men have gone to bed I stay up late

the men have gone to bed I stay up late I lick the bread now this is a poem

I lick the bread now this is a poem

I lick the bread now this is a poem obviously and any of you ever heard it

obviously and any of you ever heard it

obviously and any of you ever heard it it’s really quite famous online and I

it’s really quite famous online and I

it’s really quite famous online and I know that a lot of people have read and

know that a lot of people have read and

know that a lot of people have read and enjoyed it now who could have written it

enjoyed it now who could have written it

enjoyed it now who could have written it it’s kind of old looking Shakespeare

it’s kind of old looking Shakespeare

it’s kind of old looking Shakespeare Chaucer Emily Dickinson no it was

Chaucer Emily Dickinson no it was

Chaucer Emily Dickinson no it was written by Sam Garland’s a British

written by Sam Garland’s a British

written by Sam Garland’s a British author and he published it online a

author and he published it online a

author and he published it online a couple of years ago on a public forum

couple of years ago on a public forum

couple of years ago on a public forum and it did not stay there it went viral

and it did not stay there it went viral

and it did not stay there it went viral and I became a meme now I was gonna ask

and I became a meme now I was gonna ask

and I became a meme now I was gonna ask who knows what a meme is but someone

who knows what a meme is but someone

who knows what a meme is but someone beat me to it

beat me to it

beat me to it but according to the merriam-webster

but according to the merriam-webster

but according to the merriam-webster dictionary a meme is an amusing or

dictionary a meme is an amusing or

dictionary a meme is an amusing or interesting items such as a captions

interesting items such as a captions

interesting items such as a captions picture of video or a jar of items

picture of video or a jar of items

picture of video or a jar of items spread widely online and especially

spread widely online and especially

spread widely online and especially through social media now in their

through social media now in their

through social media now in their essence as I said memes are just funny

essence as I said memes are just funny

essence as I said memes are just funny pictures matched up with funny texts and

pictures matched up with funny texts and

pictures matched up with funny texts and I know this is not a very poetic

I know this is not a very poetic

I know this is not a very poetic definition but I’ve come to find that my

definition but I’ve come to find that my

definition but I’ve come to find that my ideas or means are a little more

ideas or means are a little more

ideas or means are a little more open-minded than most people because I

open-minded than most people because I

open-minded than most people because I believe that memes can be poetry and I

believe that memes can be poetry and I

believe that memes can be poetry and I will do my absolute best to take you

will do my absolute best to take you

will do my absolute best to take you along my train of thought because I know

along my train of thought because I know

along my train of thought because I know it sounds like a stretch at this point

it sounds like a stretch at this point

it sounds like a stretch at this point no I was surprised as a literature

no I was surprised as a literature

no I was surprised as a literature student that memes were not being

student that memes were not being

student that memes were not being discussed in an academic field because

discussed in an academic field because

discussed in an academic field because they’re only present online they’re

they’re only present online they’re

they’re only present online they’re everywhere so I was really surprised

everywhere so I was really surprised

everywhere so I was really surprised about that so I took it for myself and

about that so I took it for myself and

about that so I took it for myself and wrote my thesis on the more poetic

wrote my thesis on the more poetic

wrote my thesis on the more poetic aspects of memes and got some of that

aspects of memes and got some of that

aspects of memes and got some of that academic research started or so I hope

academic research started or so I hope

academic research started or so I hope now it seems that memes are not being

now it seems that memes are not being

now it seems that memes are not being discussed because people feel like memes

discussed because people feel like memes

discussed because people feel like memes are ordinary

are ordinary

are ordinary so they can possibly be poetry but I am

so they can possibly be poetry but I am

so they can possibly be poetry but I am here to tell you that it is possible and

here to tell you that it is possible and

here to tell you that it is possible and I’ll show you how during the Middle Ages

I’ll show you how during the Middle Ages

I’ll show you how during the Middle Ages and antiquity even before that poetry

and antiquity even before that poetry

and antiquity even before that poetry was enjoyed as a group event so one

was enjoyed as a group event so one

was enjoyed as a group event so one person was reading them out loud or

person was reading them out loud or

person was reading them out loud or performing it a group of people were

performing it a group of people were

performing it a group of people were watching or listening and afterwards

watching or listening and afterwards

watching or listening and afterwards there was a group discussion about what

there was a group discussion about what

there was a group discussion about what it might mean and what it made people

it might mean and what it made people

it might mean and what it made people feel like which is very different from

feel like which is very different from

feel like which is very different from how we experience poetry today it’s more

how we experience poetry today it’s more

how we experience poetry today it’s more a solitary thing now let’s compare the

a solitary thing now let’s compare the

a solitary thing now let’s compare the old-time way of reading poetry to memes

old-time way of reading poetry to memes

old-time way of reading poetry to memes shall we a facebook meme one person

shall we a facebook meme one person

shall we a facebook meme one person reading it or post as some one person

reading it or post as some one person

reading it or post as some one person posting it and making it a group of

posting it and making it a group of

posting it and making it a group of people listening is a lot of people

people listening is a lot of people

people listening is a lot of people retweeting we sharing reblogging re

retweeting we sharing reblogging re

retweeting we sharing reblogging re whatever showing that they’ve read and

whatever showing that they’ve read and

whatever showing that they’ve read and enjoyed it and group discussion can be

enjoyed it and group discussion can be

enjoyed it and group discussion can be compared to a comment section people

compared to a comment section people

compared to a comment section people writes about what it made them feel like

writes about what it made them feel like

writes about what it made them feel like if it made them angry very often people

if it made them angry very often people

if it made them angry very often people get offended by it so it really sparks

get offended by it so it really sparks

get offended by it so it really sparks emotion so it seems that you can compare

emotion so it seems that you can compare

emotion so it seems that you can compare the basics of poetry to the basics of

the basics of poetry to the basics of

the basics of poetry to the basics of memes but does this mean that means our

memes but does this mean that means our

memes but does this mean that means our poetry at this point I wasn’t convinced

poetry at this point I wasn’t convinced

poetry at this point I wasn’t convinced yes I’m sure you’re not convinced as

yes I’m sure you’re not convinced as

yes I’m sure you’re not convinced as well and I continued my research which

well and I continued my research which

well and I continued my research which brought me to the question what is

brought me to the question what is

brought me to the question what is poetry in the academic field this is one

poetry in the academic field this is one

poetry in the academic field this is one of the big questions and through this we

of the big questions and through this we

of the big questions and through this we don’t know we don’t have a conclusive

don’t know we don’t have a conclusive

don’t know we don’t have a conclusive definition as to what is makes poetry

definition as to what is makes poetry

definition as to what is makes poetry different from any other random texts

different from any other random texts

different from any other random texts but we do however have a number of

but we do however have a number of

but we do however have a number of characteristics that are applying to

characteristics that are applying to

characteristics that are applying to poetry and I will be comparing four of

poetry and I will be comparing four of

poetry and I will be comparing four of those characteristics to memes for you

those characteristics to memes for you

those characteristics to memes for you today now first of all and the most

today now first of all and the most

today now first of all and the most important one of all is poetic language

important one of all is poetic language

important one of all is poetic language poetry bends the rules of grammar to

poetry bends the rules of grammar to

poetry bends the rules of grammar to make it suit is chosen rhyme rhythm and

make it suit is chosen rhyme rhythm and

make it suit is chosen rhyme rhythm and format for example our beams be mock to

format for example our beams be mock to

format for example our beams be mock to the soul to remain like April hora

the soul to remain like April hora

the soul to remain like April hora spread it’s beautiful it’s pompous it’s

spread it’s beautiful it’s pompous it’s

spread it’s beautiful it’s pompous it’s really difficult and people don’t like

really difficult and people don’t like

really difficult and people don’t like it

it

it but the same can be said about language

but the same can be said about language

but the same can be said about language play of means this is the Doge meme one

play of means this is the Doge meme one

play of means this is the Doge meme one of the older most popular memes

of the older most popular memes

of the older most popular memes I’m sure everyone has seen the shiba inu

I’m sure everyone has seen the shiba inu

I’m sure everyone has seen the shiba inu kind of dog and you can see that the

kind of dog and you can see that the

kind of dog and you can see that the characteristics of this meme are

characteristics of this meme are

characteristics of this meme are fragmented short sentences wrongful use

fragmented short sentences wrongful use

fragmented short sentences wrongful use of Gremory and words like wow to apply a

of Gremory and words like wow to apply a

of Gremory and words like wow to apply a more animal type way of train of

more animal type way of train of

more animal type way of train of thoughts to it and if you compare this

thoughts to it and if you compare this

thoughts to it and if you compare this use of grammar to other animal memes

use of grammar to other animal memes

use of grammar to other animal memes even dog memes you’ll find that they use

even dog memes you’ll find that they use

even dog memes you’ll find that they use a different type of grammar so it seems

a different type of grammar so it seems

a different type of grammar so it seems that grammar or poetic language defines

that grammar or poetic language defines

that grammar or poetic language defines poetry but it also defines memes a

poetry but it also defines memes a

poetry but it also defines memes a second characteristic is a visual aspect

second characteristic is a visual aspect

second characteristic is a visual aspect in the Middle Ages a lot of texts are

in the Middle Ages a lot of texts are

in the Middle Ages a lot of texts are illustrators or illuminated with

illustrators or illuminated with

illustrators or illuminated with beautiful decorations around the edge

beautiful decorations around the edge

beautiful decorations around the edge and this is no purely decorative very

and this is no purely decorative very

and this is no purely decorative very often there is symbolism or context or

often there is symbolism or context or

often there is symbolism or context or references to other texts from the same

references to other texts from the same

references to other texts from the same era

era

era and it makes the read so much more

and it makes the read so much more

and it makes the read so much more interesting data ism is a more recent

interesting data ism is a more recent

interesting data ism is a more recent example as you can see in this example

example as you can see in this example

example as you can see in this example this is one of the most famous paper

this is one of the most famous paper

this is one of the most famous paper poems by Valvano style called circus and

poems by Valvano style called circus and

poems by Valvano style called circus and you can see how the visual and textual

you can see how the visual and textual

you can see how the visual and textual are one unit you cannot separate the two

are one unit you cannot separate the two

are one unit you cannot separate the two to make sure it’s a different or it’s a

to make sure it’s a different or it’s a

to make sure it’s a different or it’s a different poem the same for example for

different poem the same for example for

different poem the same for example for this increasingly verbose meme the image

this increasingly verbose meme the image

this increasingly verbose meme the image is getting more and more childlike but

is getting more and more childlike but

is getting more and more childlike but the text is getting more and more

the text is getting more and more

the text is getting more and more complex so they do the complete opposite

complex so they do the complete opposite

complex so they do the complete opposite but both enhance the meaning or the joke

but both enhance the meaning or the joke

but both enhance the meaning or the joke in this case a third characteristic is a

in this case a third characteristic is a

in this case a third characteristic is a political or satirical play very famous

political or satirical play very famous

political or satirical play very famous here is the phone nervosa and out of the

here is the phone nervosa and out of the

here is the phone nervosa and out of the story which uses the Front’s of a

story which uses the Front’s of a

story which uses the Front’s of a fictional animal story to critique Qing

fictional animal story to critique Qing

fictional animal story to critique Qing society and religion which is no minor

society and religion which is no minor

society and religion which is no minor feet in a thirteenth century a lot of

feet in a thirteenth century a lot of

feet in a thirteenth century a lot of memes can be made political very easily

memes can be made political very easily

memes can be made political very easily as well this is an example of the gun

as well this is an example of the gun

as well this is an example of the gun meme and the gun meme you add the word

meme and the gun meme you add the word

meme and the gun meme you add the word gun to any random sentence

gun to any random sentence

gun to any random sentence it’s a non-existing punchline it’s

it’s a non-existing punchline it’s

it’s a non-existing punchline it’s ridiculous but hysterical in my personal

ridiculous but hysterical in my personal

ridiculous but hysterical in my personal opinion but if you add gun to the right

opinion but if you add gun to the right

opinion but if you add gun to the right sentence you get a political play or a

sentence you get a political play or a

sentence you get a political play or a reference to the ongoing gun gun control

reference to the ongoing gun gun control

reference to the ongoing gun gun control debates which is pretty heavy in the

debates which is pretty heavy in the

debates which is pretty heavy in the United States so it seems that memes are

United States so it seems that memes are

United States so it seems that memes are very easily made political depending on

very easily made political depending on

very easily made political depending on the intention of the maker and

the intention of the maker and

the intention of the maker and fourth and final characteristic is

fourth and final characteristic is

fourth and final characteristic is absurdism absurdism is a broad spectrum

absurdism absurdism is a broad spectrum

absurdism absurdism is a broad spectrum and you can see how in Dadaism they use

and you can see how in Dadaism they use

and you can see how in Dadaism they use absurdism to get people engaged if you

absurdism to get people engaged if you

absurdism to get people engaged if you read this it means nothing

read this it means nothing

read this it means nothing it really doesn’t there’s no meaning but

it really doesn’t there’s no meaning but

it really doesn’t there’s no meaning but if you read out loud and you use your

if you read out loud and you use your

if you read out loud and you use your vocalization you play around with the

vocalization you play around with the

vocalization you play around with the language a little bit you get something

language a little bit you get something

language a little bit you get something there or there might be something there

there or there might be something there

there or there might be something there so data is to enjoy it absurd isn’t to

so data is to enjoy it absurd isn’t to

so data is to enjoy it absurd isn’t to get people involved but memes prefer to

get people involved but memes prefer to

get people involved but memes prefer to use absurdism in the sense of the core

use absurdism in the sense of the core

use absurdism in the sense of the core gesture in the Middle Ages who was the

gesture in the Middle Ages who was the

gesture in the Middle Ages who was the only one who could critique his King

only one who could critique his King

only one who could critique his King because everything he said was

because everything he said was

because everything he said was considered a joke and if it’s a joke

considered a joke and if it’s a joke

considered a joke and if it’s a joke it’s not hurting anyone right now

it’s not hurting anyone right now

it’s not hurting anyone right now what I want you to take away from this

what I want you to take away from this

what I want you to take away from this talk is this first of all we’ve we’ve

talk is this first of all we’ve we’ve

talk is this first of all we’ve we’ve seen the memes have poetical language a

seen the memes have poetical language a

seen the memes have poetical language a visual aspect a political and satirical

visual aspect a political and satirical

visual aspect a political and satirical play and absurdism this made me conclude

play and absurdism this made me conclude

play and absurdism this made me conclude that memes are a new branch of poetry

that memes are a new branch of poetry

that memes are a new branch of poetry and confirm my beliefs that poetry is

and confirm my beliefs that poetry is

and confirm my beliefs that poetry is still evolving to this day it is still

still evolving to this day it is still

still evolving to this day it is still able to express new emotions express

able to express new emotions express

able to express new emotions express critique and address difficult topics

critique and address difficult topics

critique and address difficult topics it’s also interesting to note that this

it’s also interesting to note that this

it’s also interesting to note that this movement is made almost entirely out of

movement is made almost entirely out of

movement is made almost entirely out of young adults and teenagers but that’s a

young adults and teenagers but that’s a

young adults and teenagers but that’s a different talk altogether so I want you

different talk altogether so I want you

different talk altogether so I want you to remember the next time you see you me

to remember the next time you see you me

to remember the next time you see you me first of all you know what it is

first of all you know what it is

first of all you know what it is second of all if you see one that sparks

second of all if you see one that sparks

second of all if you see one that sparks your interest in some way maybe read it

your interest in some way maybe read it

your interest in some way maybe read it again consider there might be more there

again consider there might be more there

again consider there might be more there than you thought was possible and

than you thought was possible and

than you thought was possible and perhaps consider that memes can be a new

perhaps consider that memes can be a new

perhaps consider that memes can be a new poetic way to express your personal

poetic way to express your personal

poetic way to express your personal feelings and express your critique on

feelings and express your critique on

feelings and express your critique on society or the status quo and even

society or the status quo and even

society or the status quo and even address the topics that are sometimes

address the topics that are sometimes

address the topics that are sometimes very difficult to talk about thank you

very difficult to talk about thank you

very difficult to talk about thank you very much

very much

very much [Applause]

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