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Mass Incarceration: Why Should Americans Care? | Monalisa Johnson | TEDxBeaconStreet


I was 3,000 miles away when I got the

I was 3,000 miles away when I got the call that made me fall to my knees I got

call that made me fall to my knees I got

call that made me fall to my knees I got a call from my daughter and I couldn’t

a call from my daughter and I couldn’t

a call from my daughter and I couldn’t believe what I was hearing

believe what I was hearing

believe what I was hearing my daughter was such a beautiful person

my daughter was such a beautiful person

my daughter was such a beautiful person she was filled with so much love and

she was filled with so much love and

she was filled with so much love and compassion and she was what I used to

compassion and she was what I used to

compassion and she was what I used to call my little mother Teresa but that

call my little mother Teresa but that

call my little mother Teresa but that call when it came in it just took my

call when it came in it just took my

call when it came in it just took my breath away when you get a call from

breath away when you get a call from

breath away when you get a call from your kid and you can’t control what

your kid and you can’t control what

your kid and you can’t control what you’re hearing you really have to sit

you’re hearing you really have to sit

you’re hearing you really have to sit back and think you have to think about

back and think you have to think about

back and think you have to think about what is actually happening here what am

what is actually happening here what am

what is actually happening here what am i hearing

i hearing

i hearing my daughter was calling me to tell me

my daughter was calling me to tell me

my daughter was calling me to tell me that she was in trouble she was calling

that she was in trouble she was calling

that she was in trouble she was calling in 2012 to be exact to tell me that she

in 2012 to be exact to tell me that she

in 2012 to be exact to tell me that she had been arrested she’d been arrested

had been arrested she’d been arrested

had been arrested she’d been arrested for armed robbery she had gone in with

for armed robbery she had gone in with

for armed robbery she had gone in with two co-defendants because she had been

two co-defendants because she had been

two co-defendants because she had been hooked on a drug and it was called Molly

hooked on a drug and it was called Molly

hooked on a drug and it was called Molly this drug got her so far out there that

this drug got her so far out there that

this drug got her so far out there that even I didn’t know who she was things

even I didn’t know who she was things

even I didn’t know who she was things began to change this was my daughter

began to change this was my daughter

began to change this was my daughter this is what she looked like before it

this is what she looked like before it

this is what she looked like before it all happened and this was my daughter

all happened and this was my daughter

all happened and this was my daughter after let me tell you something the drug

after let me tell you something the drug

after let me tell you something the drug Molly can change your very entire

Molly can change your very entire

Molly can change your very entire existence and it did that for her as

existence and it did that for her as

existence and it did that for her as well

well

well I was so shocked to hear what I was

I was so shocked to hear what I was

I was so shocked to hear what I was hearing and I just I just I couldn’t

hearing and I just I just I couldn’t

hearing and I just I just I couldn’t even imagine and fathom what was

even imagine and fathom what was

even imagine and fathom what was happening that my life and her life was

happening that my life and her life was

happening that my life and her life was changing right before our very own eyes

changing right before our very own eyes

changing right before our very own eyes and all I could say to myself is why why

and all I could say to myself is why why

and all I could say to myself is why why is this happening to us why is this

is this happening to us why is this

is this happening to us why is this happening to a college student a student

happening to a college student a student

happening to a college student a student who was doing so well in life and then

who was doing so well in life and then

who was doing so well in life and then all of a sudden overnight it’s gone I

all of a sudden overnight it’s gone I

all of a sudden overnight it’s gone I don’t know if it’s ever happened to you

don’t know if it’s ever happened to you

don’t know if it’s ever happened to you guys

guys

guys but it definitely happened to me how

but it definitely happened to me how

but it definitely happened to me how many of you guys have someone who’s

many of you guys have someone who’s

many of you guys have someone who’s incarcerated you know someone who’s

incarcerated you know someone who’s

incarcerated you know someone who’s incarcerated or god forbid your own

incarcerated or god forbid your own

incarcerated or god forbid your own incarcerated I’m glad to know one I’m

incarcerated I’m glad to know one I’m

incarcerated I’m glad to know one I’m not alone but two I want to thank you

not alone but two I want to thank you

not alone but two I want to thank you for being bold and three I want you to

for being bold and three I want you to

for being bold and three I want you to realize that I realized some of us won’t

realize that I realized some of us won’t

realize that I realized some of us won’t raise our hand for many different

raise our hand for many different

raise our hand for many different reasons I understand that you know there

reasons I understand that you know there

reasons I understand that you know there is a there is a major major major stigma

is a there is a major major major stigma

is a there is a major major major stigma that goes along with being incarcerated

that goes along with being incarcerated

that goes along with being incarcerated I understand that there’s judgement that

I understand that there’s judgement that

I understand that there’s judgement that occurs and some of us are ashamed some

occurs and some of us are ashamed some

occurs and some of us are ashamed some of us are even embarrassed to admit that

of us are even embarrassed to admit that

of us are even embarrassed to admit that but you know I have to admit even I was

but you know I have to admit even I was

but you know I have to admit even I was that person before my daughter was

that person before my daughter was

that person before my daughter was incarcerated I was that person who

incarcerated I was that person who

incarcerated I was that person who looked at a criminal and said I should

looked at a criminal and said I should

looked at a criminal and said I should be afraid of that person not only should

be afraid of that person not only should

be afraid of that person not only should I be afraid of that person but I also

I be afraid of that person but I also

I be afraid of that person but I also should look at them as once a criminal

should look at them as once a criminal

should look at them as once a criminal always a criminal they’ll never change

always a criminal they’ll never change

always a criminal they’ll never change so don’t give him a second chance just

so don’t give him a second chance just

so don’t give him a second chance just throw him away I was that person and I

throw him away I was that person and I

throw him away I was that person and I am terribly ashamed to admit it but the

am terribly ashamed to admit it but the

am terribly ashamed to admit it but the reality is there’s many of us sitting

reality is there’s many of us sitting

reality is there’s many of us sitting right here in this room sitting out in

right here in this room sitting out in

right here in this room sitting out in the world who think just like that

the world who think just like that

the world who think just like that because it didn’t happen to you it

because it didn’t happen to you it

because it didn’t happen to you it doesn’t affect your world it doesn’t you

doesn’t affect your world it doesn’t you

doesn’t affect your world it doesn’t you don’t even know anybody in your world or

don’t even know anybody in your world or

don’t even know anybody in your world or in your society or in your culture or in

in your society or in your culture or in

in your society or in your culture or in your family where it’s actually

your family where it’s actually

your family where it’s actually affecting you but for me it affected me

affecting you but for me it affected me

affecting you but for me it affected me and so it hit me so deep down in my

and so it hit me so deep down in my

and so it hit me so deep down in my heart that I had to dig deep down to

heart that I had to dig deep down to

heart that I had to dig deep down to myself and say to myself hmm let me find

myself and say to myself hmm let me find

myself and say to myself hmm let me find out for my daughter what’s going on

out for my daughter what’s going on

out for my daughter what’s going on around there so I started asking my

around there so I started asking my

around there so I started asking my daughter questions I started asking her

daughter questions I started asking her

daughter questions I started asking her simply what’s going on in there and she

simply what’s going on in there and she

simply what’s going on in there and she started giving me stories that were

started giving me stories that were

started giving me stories that were unfathomable stories that were just

unfathomable stories that were just

unfathomable stories that were just mind-blowing I could not believe that

mind-blowing I could not believe that

mind-blowing I could not believe that they were in fact true I thought to

they were in fact true I thought to

they were in fact true I thought to myself there’s no possible way no

myself there’s no possible way no

myself there’s no possible way no possible way that what you’re telling me

possible way that what you’re telling me

possible way that what you’re telling me could be true so what that did was that

could be true so what that did was that

could be true so what that did was that led me down a road that opened up

led me down a road that opened up

led me down a road that opened up another door for me and as this door

another door for me and as this door

another door for me and as this door began to open it opened in a way that is

began to open it opened in a way that is

began to open it opened in a way that is unique it’s probably going to blow some

unique it’s probably going to blow some

unique it’s probably going to blow some of your minds but for me it worked in it

of your minds but for me it worked in it

of your minds but for me it worked in it it actually helped me to understand what

it actually helped me to understand what

it actually helped me to understand what my daughter was going through how many

my daughter was going through how many

my daughter was going through how many of you guys have seen the show 60 days

of you guys have seen the show 60 days

of you guys have seen the show 60 days in it’s a jail show on A&E

in it’s a jail show on A&E

in it’s a jail show on A&E anybody 60 days in do you recognize that

anybody 60 days in do you recognize that

anybody 60 days in do you recognize that person right there that’s me I hope you

person right there that’s me I hope you

person right there that’s me I hope you liked my break but that shows sixty days

liked my break but that shows sixty days

liked my break but that shows sixty days in they basically came to me and they

in they basically came to me and they

in they basically came to me and they said to me you know would you like to

said to me you know would you like to

said to me you know would you like to know what it’s like to be in jail and I

know what it’s like to be in jail and I

know what it’s like to be in jail and I said well how would I do that and they

said well how would I do that and they

said well how would I do that and they said well you’re gonna spend sixty days

said well you’re gonna spend sixty days

said well you’re gonna spend sixty days undercover in jail this is gonna be the

undercover in jail this is gonna be the

undercover in jail this is gonna be the real deal and not only is it gonna be

real deal and not only is it gonna be

real deal and not only is it gonna be the real deal we’re gonna document every

the real deal we’re gonna document every

the real deal we’re gonna document every move that you make and you’re gonna go

move that you make and you’re gonna go

move that you make and you’re gonna go in there completely undercover to where

in there completely undercover to where

in there completely undercover to where nobody knows that you’re in they’re not

nobody knows that you’re in they’re not

nobody knows that you’re in they’re not the staff not the inmates not anybody

the staff not the inmates not anybody

the staff not the inmates not anybody how many of you guys would do that 60

how many of you guys would do that 60

how many of you guys would do that 60 days you’re going with me anybody no I

days you’re going with me anybody no I

days you’re going with me anybody no I guess not huh I don’t blame you I would

guess not huh I don’t blame you I would

guess not huh I don’t blame you I would never go again and for the record that

never go again and for the record that

never go again and for the record that would be a no I’m never going back ever

would be a no I’m never going back ever

would be a no I’m never going back ever again I while I was in there you know I

again I while I was in there you know I

again I while I was in there you know I uncovered a lot of different things and

uncovered a lot of different things and

uncovered a lot of different things and some of the things that I learned were

some of the things that I learned were

some of the things that I learned were just they were flabbergasting I mean I

just they were flabbergasting I mean I

just they were flabbergasting I mean I learned that there are three different

learned that there are three different

learned that there are three different types of people that go to jail in

types of people that go to jail in

types of people that go to jail in prison

prison

prison and for the record there’s two different

and for the record there’s two different

and for the record there’s two different types of situations going on here jail

types of situations going on here jail

types of situations going on here jail is for people who go and in two years or

is for people who go and in two years or

is for people who go and in two years or less they may do their time they may be

less they may do their time they may be

less they may do their time they may be they may not do their time but jail

they may not do their time but jail

they may not do their time but jail they’re in and out of prison is for long

they’re in and out of prison is for long

they’re in and out of prison is for long term two years plus and so when they

term two years plus and so when they

term two years plus and so when they sent me to jail I learned that there

sent me to jail I learned that there

sent me to jail I learned that there were three different types of people I

were three different types of people I

were three different types of people I learned so many lessons but but the main

learned so many lessons but but the main

learned so many lessons but but the main lesson was that one that there are

lesson was that one that there are

lesson was that one that there are people that are absolutely guilty have

people that are absolutely guilty have

people that are absolutely guilty have made a mistake they will learn from

made a mistake they will learn from

made a mistake they will learn from their mistakes and they’ll never go back

their mistakes and they’ll never go back

their mistakes and they’ll never go back again I learned that there are people

again I learned that there are people

again I learned that there are people that are true criminals people who will

that are true criminals people who will

that are true criminals people who will actually commit a crime over and over

actually commit a crime over and over

actually commit a crime over and over again they’re a menace to society and we

again they’re a menace to society and we

again they’re a menace to society and we need to watch our backs when it comes

need to watch our backs when it comes

need to watch our backs when it comes down to them I also learned that there

down to them I also learned that there

down to them I also learned that there are people that are innocent in the

are people that are innocent in the

are people that are innocent in the prison innocent falsely accused they

prison innocent falsely accused they

prison innocent falsely accused they really didn’t do it and I know that’s

really didn’t do it and I know that’s

really didn’t do it and I know that’s the famous saying you know I didn’t do

the famous saying you know I didn’t do

the famous saying you know I didn’t do it I didn’t do it but I promise you

it I didn’t do it but I promise you

it I didn’t do it but I promise you there are people in there who really

there are people in there who really

there are people in there who really didn’t do it and so as a part of what I

didn’t do it and so as a part of what I

didn’t do it and so as a part of what I learned I learned that you know you

learned I learned that you know you

learned I learned that you know you don’t know somebody’s story until you

don’t know somebody’s story until you

don’t know somebody’s story until you really know somebody’s story you can’t

really know somebody’s story you can’t

really know somebody’s story you can’t judge a book by a cover

judge a book by a cover

judge a book by a cover why do I say that because I met a young

why do I say that because I met a young

why do I say that because I met a young lady she was a heroin user and she was

lady she was a heroin user and she was

lady she was a heroin user and she was my bunkmate my cellmate the girl that

my bunkmate my cellmate the girl that

my bunkmate my cellmate the girl that slept above me and she had been

slept above me and she had been

slept above me and she had been prostituted since the age of eight years

prostituted since the age of eight years

prostituted since the age of eight years old and the reason why she was on heroin

old and the reason why she was on heroin

old and the reason why she was on heroin was because her parents administered the

was because her parents administered the

was because her parents administered the heroin to her for these gruesome acts to

heroin to her for these gruesome acts to

heroin to her for these gruesome acts to occur and some of us like to say well

occur and some of us like to say well

occur and some of us like to say well when you’re on drugs why don’t you just

when you’re on drugs why don’t you just

when you’re on drugs why don’t you just get off drugs it’s that simple right

get off drugs it’s that simple right

get off drugs it’s that simple right it’s that simple just say no well have

it’s that simple just say no well have

it’s that simple just say no well have you ever considered the fact that some

you ever considered the fact that some

you ever considered the fact that some people have a disease it’s called

people have a disease it’s called

people have a disease it’s called addiction some people were raised in a

addiction some people were raised in a

addiction some people were raised in a culture they have no idea they don’t

culture they have no idea they don’t

culture they have no idea they don’t know anything else other than what

know anything else other than what

know anything else other than what they’ve been taught she was eight years

they’ve been taught she was eight years

they’ve been taught she was eight years old for God’s sake and being prostituted

old for God’s sake and being prostituted

old for God’s sake and being prostituted and being given heroin and so as an

and being given heroin and so as an

and being given heroin and so as an adult what does she do she comes in and

adult what does she do she comes in and

adult what does she do she comes in and out of the system in and out of system

out of the system in and out of system

out of the system in and out of system in and out of the system that’s heroin

in and out of the system that’s heroin

in and out of the system that’s heroin that’s what it does to you you know what

that’s what it does to you you know what

that’s what it does to you you know what else I learned I learned about why we

else I learned I learned about why we

else I learned I learned about why we should care about mass incarceration the

should care about mass incarceration the

should care about mass incarceration the reason why we should care about mass

reason why we should care about mass

reason why we should care about mass incarceration I want to show you a few

incarceration I want to show you a few

incarceration I want to show you a few more pictures there oh by the way that’s

more pictures there oh by the way that’s

more pictures there oh by the way that’s me down at the very bottom you see me at

me down at the very bottom you see me at

me down at the very bottom you see me at that bottom row you love my mugshot they

that bottom row you love my mugshot they

that bottom row you love my mugshot they could have picked the best shot ever 60

could have picked the best shot ever 60

could have picked the best shot ever 60 days in A&E thank you so much why should

days in A&E thank you so much why should

days in A&E thank you so much why should we care about mass incarceration

we care about mass incarceration

we care about mass incarceration you know mass incarceration is killing

you know mass incarceration is killing

you know mass incarceration is killing us spiritually financially and socially

us spiritually financially and socially

us spiritually financially and socially and until we really get a hold of the

and until we really get a hold of the

and until we really get a hold of the fact that it is a humanity issue and it

fact that it is a humanity issue and it

fact that it is a humanity issue and it is it is a human rights issue we won’t

is it is a human rights issue we won’t

is it is a human rights issue we won’t begin to understand you know people’s

begin to understand you know people’s

begin to understand you know people’s rights are being consistently broken and

rights are being consistently broken and

rights are being consistently broken and taken away from them and and don’t get

taken away from them and and don’t get

taken away from them and and don’t get me wrong I don’t condone it I don’t

me wrong I don’t condone it I don’t

me wrong I don’t condone it I don’t condone crime not at all I do believe

condone crime not at all I do believe

condone crime not at all I do believe that when you’ve done something wrong

that when you’ve done something wrong

that when you’ve done something wrong you do need to pay the price but the

you do need to pay the price but the

you do need to pay the price but the crime other time must fit the crime my

crime other time must fit the crime my

crime other time must fit the crime my daughter what for what she did for a

daughter what for what she did for a

daughter what for what she did for a first-time offender she should have

first-time offender she should have

first-time offender she should have never gone to prison for ten years ten

never gone to prison for ten years ten

never gone to prison for ten years ten years she was 18 years old first offense

years she was 18 years old first offense

years she was 18 years old first offense yes she was guilty yes she turned

yes she was guilty yes she turned

yes she was guilty yes she turned herself in they didn’t have to spend the

herself in they didn’t have to spend the

herself in they didn’t have to spend the tax dollars to find her she turned

tax dollars to find her she turned

tax dollars to find her she turned herself in because she was taught to do

herself in because she was taught to do

herself in because she was taught to do what was right she was born and raised

what was right she was born and raised

what was right she was born and raised in a family where I was in firm belief

in a family where I was in firm belief

in a family where I was in firm belief that she was going to turn out to be the

that she was going to turn out to be the

that she was going to turn out to be the good ol American Dream but you know

good ol American Dream but you know

good ol American Dream but you know sometimes we will be pinched and woken

sometimes we will be pinched and woken

sometimes we will be pinched and woken up from that dream and before you know

up from that dream and before you know

up from that dream and before you know it you’re in a nightmare it can happen

it you’re in a nightmare it can happen

it you’re in a nightmare it can happen to you

to you

to you it can’t happen but human rights are

it can’t happen but human rights are

it can’t happen but human rights are being violated I witnessed it with my

being violated I witnessed it with my

being violated I witnessed it with my own two eyes

own two eyes

own two eyes let’s take a look I’m volunteering to go

let’s take a look I’m volunteering to go

let’s take a look I’m volunteering to go to jail for 60 days

I have a child that is incarcerated I

I have a child that is incarcerated I wanted to know what it felt like to be

wanted to know what it felt like to be

wanted to know what it felt like to be on the other side my biggest fear is

on the other side my biggest fear is

on the other side my biggest fear is that the prison system will fail my

that the prison system will fail my

that the prison system will fail my daughter that she’ll come out as a true

daughter that she’ll come out as a true

daughter that she’ll come out as a true criminal I hope that I can impact that

criminal I hope that I can impact that

criminal I hope that I can impact that system

when I first came in it was like that

when I first came in it was like that most eerie feeling that I’ve ever had I

most eerie feeling that I’ve ever had I

most eerie feeling that I’ve ever had I would have never expected American jails

would have never expected American jails

would have never expected American jails to look like that on the inside that was

to look like that on the inside that was

to look like that on the inside that was like some stuff to either see in a

like some stuff to either see in a

like some stuff to either see in a foreign country it’s disgusting

foreign country it’s disgusting

foreign country it’s disgusting if nothing else I’ll say disgusting

if nothing else I’ll say disgusting

if nothing else I’ll say disgusting after years building up my mental stream

after years building up my mental stream

after years building up my mental stream I felt like it’s being torn down in a

I felt like it’s being torn down in a

I felt like it’s being torn down in a matter of hours minutes I could never

matter of hours minutes I could never

matter of hours minutes I could never have understood what my daughter was

have understood what my daughter was

have understood what my daughter was going through ever

going through ever

going through ever until I walk one minute in her shoes

until I walk one minute in her shoes

until I walk one minute in her shoes being in jail it’s a financial issue you

being in jail it’s a financial issue you

being in jail it’s a financial issue you know it’s a financial issue I didn’t

know it’s a financial issue I didn’t

know it’s a financial issue I didn’t know what it felt like until I walked in

know what it felt like until I walked in

know what it felt like until I walked in those shoes when I saw from my own two

those shoes when I saw from my own two

those shoes when I saw from my own two eyes that human rights are being

eyes that human rights are being

eyes that human rights are being violated I had to think well what else

violated I had to think well what else

violated I had to think well what else is happening it’s a financial issue you

is happening it’s a financial issue you

is happening it’s a financial issue you see one out of 35 people are

see one out of 35 people are

see one out of 35 people are incarcerated one out of 25 children

incarcerated one out of 25 children

incarcerated one out of 25 children have parents who are incarcerated 80

have parents who are incarcerated 80

have parents who are incarcerated 80 billion dollars a year it costs to

billion dollars a year it costs to

billion dollars a year it costs to incarcerate 2.5 million people we should

incarcerate 2.5 million people we should

incarcerate 2.5 million people we should care about mass incarceration it’s

care about mass incarceration it’s

care about mass incarceration it’s affecting you where do you think the 80

affecting you where do you think the 80

affecting you where do you think the 80 billion dollars comes from your

billion dollars comes from your

billion dollars comes from your pocketbooks my pocketbook

pocketbooks my pocketbook

pocketbooks my pocketbook everybody’s pocketbook eighty billion

everybody’s pocketbook eighty billion

everybody’s pocketbook eighty billion dollars hmm I think 80 billion dollars

dollars hmm I think 80 billion dollars

dollars hmm I think 80 billion dollars could probably pay the price of every

could probably pay the price of every

could probably pay the price of every teacher in America for the next year why

teacher in America for the next year why

teacher in America for the next year why don’t we take the time to possibly think

don’t we take the time to possibly think

don’t we take the time to possibly think about using this as a way to kind of

about using this as a way to kind of

about using this as a way to kind of better of society to see what else we

better of society to see what else we

better of society to see what else we could do to make things better because

could do to make things better because

could do to make things better because at this present time we’re not doing

at this present time we’re not doing

at this present time we’re not doing what we need to do with the money that

what we need to do with the money that

what we need to do with the money that we’re spending but we’re expecting

we’re spending but we’re expecting

we’re spending but we’re expecting different results

different results

different results I think Einstein said it best when he

I think Einstein said it best when he

I think Einstein said it best when he said you know we keep doing the same

said you know we keep doing the same

said you know we keep doing the same things but we keep expecting different

things but we keep expecting different

things but we keep expecting different results that’s called insanity and I

results that’s called insanity and I

results that’s called insanity and I feel like we’re walking in a space of

feel like we’re walking in a space of

feel like we’re walking in a space of insanity when it comes down to mass

insanity when it comes down to mass

insanity when it comes down to mass incarceration mass incarceration is not

incarceration mass incarceration is not

incarceration mass incarceration is not just a humanities issue and a community

just a humanities issue and a community

just a humanities issue and a community issue it’s also I’m sorry a financial

issue it’s also I’m sorry a financial

issue it’s also I’m sorry a financial issue it’s also a community issue and

issue it’s also a community issue and

issue it’s also a community issue and ultimately a family issue did you know

ultimately a family issue did you know

ultimately a family issue did you know that 77 percent of those who’ve been

that 77 percent of those who’ve been

that 77 percent of those who’ve been incarcerated are actually coming back

incarcerated are actually coming back

incarcerated are actually coming back out to society no matter what they’ve

out to society no matter what they’ve

out to society no matter what they’ve done no matter how long they’ve been in

done no matter how long they’ve been in

done no matter how long they’ve been in or no matter what the impact is to the

or no matter what the impact is to the

or no matter what the impact is to the society as a whole they’re coming back

society as a whole they’re coming back

society as a whole they’re coming back and since they’re coming back we have to

and since they’re coming back we have to

and since they’re coming back we have to be more than aware that they’re going to

be more than aware that they’re going to

be more than aware that they’re going to affect our neighborhoods so we have to

affect our neighborhoods so we have to

affect our neighborhoods so we have to care about mass incarceration because it

care about mass incarceration because it

care about mass incarceration because it is a community issue we have to

is a community issue we have to

is a community issue we have to realize and start to think differently

realize and start to think differently

realize and start to think differently we have to start to think of felons as

we have to start to think of felons as

we have to start to think of felons as not just a burden to our society but the

not just a burden to our society but the

not just a burden to our society but the potential that we could change the way

potential that we could change the way

potential that we could change the way the the correctional systems are being

the the correctional systems are being

the the correctional systems are being handled we should think about are they

handled we should think about are they

handled we should think about are they coming out corrected the answer is no

coming out corrected the answer is no

coming out corrected the answer is no they’re coming out worse off than when

they’re coming out worse off than when

they’re coming out worse off than when they went in why because there’s

they went in why because there’s

they went in why because there’s absolutely no programs in place we

absolutely no programs in place we

absolutely no programs in place we should start thinking about mental

should start thinking about mental

should start thinking about mental health programs about re-entry programs

health programs about re-entry programs

health programs about re-entry programs we should start thinking about all the

we should start thinking about all the

we should start thinking about all the different ways that we could actually

different ways that we could actually

different ways that we could actually begin to be a change have you ever

begin to be a change have you ever

begin to be a change have you ever thought about this if you woke up

thought about this if you woke up

thought about this if you woke up tomorrow and you were told you have no

tomorrow and you were told you have no

tomorrow and you were told you have no money you have no place to go you have

money you have no place to go you have

money you have no place to go you have no one to ask now put yourself there

no one to ask now put yourself there

no one to ask now put yourself there imagine it with me you have nobody not

imagine it with me you have nobody not

imagine it with me you have nobody not grandma sue sue not Billy Bob not uncle

grandma sue sue not Billy Bob not uncle

grandma sue sue not Billy Bob not uncle uncle sure nobody but yet you are told

uncle sure nobody but yet you are told

uncle sure nobody but yet you are told to be a productive citizen what are you

to be a productive citizen what are you

to be a productive citizen what are you gonna do what do we expect people to do

gonna do what do we expect people to do

gonna do what do we expect people to do when they have no where to lay their

when they have no where to lay their

when they have no where to lay their heads know where to get a meal no way to

heads know where to get a meal no way to

heads know where to get a meal no way to get a job that’s what we’re doing to

get a job that’s what we’re doing to

get a job that’s what we’re doing to these people we are saying come back to

these people we are saying come back to

these people we are saying come back to society but you figure it out but don’t

society but you figure it out but don’t

society but you figure it out but don’t do anything wrong but come on back

do anything wrong but come on back

do anything wrong but come on back that’s what we’re saying why should we

that’s what we’re saying why should we

that’s what we’re saying why should we care about mass incarceration we should

care about mass incarceration we should

care about mass incarceration we should care about mass incarceration because

care about mass incarceration because

care about mass incarceration because you know because the bottom line is is

you know because the bottom line is is

you know because the bottom line is is that we are our brothers keepers we are

that we are our brothers keepers we are

that we are our brothers keepers we are our brothers keepers and our sisters

our brothers keepers and our sisters

our brothers keepers and our sisters keepers it is up to us to be the leaders

keepers it is up to us to be the leaders

keepers it is up to us to be the leaders and the forerunners in the world of

and the forerunners in the world of

and the forerunners in the world of change not just talk about change but be

change not just talk about change but be

change not just talk about change but be about change because I never expected

about change because I never expected

about change because I never expected this to happen to me I am not the face

this to happen to me I am not the face

this to happen to me I am not the face of incarceration neither is my daughter

of incarceration neither is my daughter

of incarceration neither is my daughter but it is happening the opioid crisis is

but it is happening the opioid crisis is

but it is happening the opioid crisis is it is here it is now it is happening so

it is here it is now it is happening so

it is here it is now it is happening so what can you do

what can you do

what can you do oh I’m so glad you asked me again what

oh I’m so glad you asked me again what

oh I’m so glad you asked me again what can I do well what you can do is you can

can I do well what you can do is you can

can I do well what you can do is you can remove the stigma and talk honestly

remove the stigma and talk honestly

remove the stigma and talk honestly about it see in today’s time there’s no

about it see in today’s time there’s no

about it see in today’s time there’s no real ways that we can talk about this

real ways that we can talk about this

real ways that we can talk about this and not feel totally uncomfortable

and not feel totally uncomfortable

and not feel totally uncomfortable I mean I’m screaming and I’m standing up

I mean I’m screaming and I’m standing up

I mean I’m screaming and I’m standing up can’t imagine what you’re doing in your

can’t imagine what you’re doing in your

can’t imagine what you’re doing in your shoot and you’re just in your chairs

shoot and you’re just in your chairs

shoot and you’re just in your chairs right now I’m really uncomfortable

right now I’m really uncomfortable

right now I’m really uncomfortable talking about this subject because most

talking about this subject because most

talking about this subject because most people as soon as you start talking

people as soon as you start talking

people as soon as you start talking about this subject then the first thing

about this subject then the first thing

about this subject then the first thing they want to do is shut it down they

they want to do is shut it down they

they want to do is shut it down they want to ignore it they want to push it

want to ignore it they want to push it

want to ignore it they want to push it away as the dirty dark subject but we

away as the dirty dark subject but we

away as the dirty dark subject but we have to start talking about this thing

have to start talking about this thing

have to start talking about this thing openly and honestly so that we can find

openly and honestly so that we can find

openly and honestly so that we can find the solutions to the problems don’t we

the solutions to the problems don’t we

the solutions to the problems don’t we talk about other problems and don’t we

talk about other problems and don’t we

talk about other problems and don’t we find solutions this is a problem we need

find solutions this is a problem we need

find solutions this is a problem we need to find a solution

to find a solution

to find a solution what about educating ourselves if you

what about educating ourselves if you

what about educating ourselves if you haven’t already done this and and I’m

haven’t already done this and and I’m

haven’t already done this and and I’m proud of you if you have but if you

proud of you if you have but if you

proud of you if you have but if you haven’t already done this the best way

haven’t already done this the best way

haven’t already done this the best way that you can educate yourself is just

that you can educate yourself is just

that you can educate yourself is just like I did you can stand up and you can

like I did you can stand up and you can

like I did you can stand up and you can sign the justice declaration when I went

sign the justice declaration when I went

sign the justice declaration when I went to that justice declaration calm and I

to that justice declaration calm and I

to that justice declaration calm and I started learning about things I learned

started learning about things I learned

started learning about things I learned about advocacy I learned about lobbying

about advocacy I learned about lobbying

about advocacy I learned about lobbying I learned about what I could personally

I learned about what I could personally

I learned about what I could personally do to make a difference because the

do to make a difference because the

do to make a difference because the problem does feel like it’s this big but

problem does feel like it’s this big but

problem does feel like it’s this big but these people which is the Prison

these people which is the Prison

these people which is the Prison Fellowship I’m in no connection with him

Fellowship I’m in no connection with him

Fellowship I’m in no connection with him but they did help me to pull myself

but they did help me to pull myself

but they did help me to pull myself through and make me understand

through and make me understand

through and make me understand specifically what it was that I needed

specifically what it was that I needed

specifically what it was that I needed to learn and do to become a change agent

to learn and do to become a change agent

to learn and do to become a change agent so my question to you is will you sign

so my question to you is will you sign

so my question to you is will you sign the check the justice declaration will

the check the justice declaration will

the check the justice declaration will you sign it if you will you’ll find out

you sign it if you will you’ll find out

you sign it if you will you’ll find out all the information that you need and

all the information that you need and

all the information that you need and you won’t feel overwhelmed

you won’t feel overwhelmed

you won’t feel overwhelmed you’ll feel what I felt and that’s

you’ll feel what I felt and that’s

you’ll feel what I felt and that’s freedom the freedom to know that we live

freedom the freedom to know that we live

freedom the freedom to know that we live in America the land of the free and the

in America the land of the free and the

in America the land of the free and the home of the brave the freedom to know

home of the brave the freedom to know

home of the brave the freedom to know that I personally had to go to jail to

that I personally had to go to jail to

that I personally had to go to jail to lose my freedom so that other people

lose my freedom so that other people

lose my freedom so that other people could be free so that you all can

could be free so that you all can

could be free so that you all can understand and hear the truth coming

understand and hear the truth coming

understand and hear the truth coming from someone who has a biased opinion or

from someone who has a biased opinion or

from someone who has a biased opinion or who is who sees all sides will you say

who is who sees all sides will you say

who is who sees all sides will you say will you stand with me and be the change

will you stand with me and be the change

will you stand with me and be the change that we need to be will you stand with

that we need to be will you stand with

that we need to be will you stand with me thank you

thank you thank you

thank you thank you okay

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