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so I want to talk a little bit about

so I want to talk a little bit about something it really has a lot of us

something it really has a lot of us

something it really has a lot of us excited right up the road here at

excited right up the road here at

excited right up the road here at Canadian nuclear laboratories and myself

Canadian nuclear laboratories and myself

Canadian nuclear laboratories and myself personally after being in this industry

personally after being in this industry

personally after being in this industry for many years I’m very excited about so

for many years I’m very excited about so

for many years I’m very excited about so what it is is right now right here for

what it is is right now right here for

what it is is right now right here for all of us in this room and for all the

all of us in this room and for all the

all of us in this room and for all the six plus billion people around the

six plus billion people around the

six plus billion people around the planet we’ve got two competing dilemmas

planet we’ve got two competing dilemmas

planet we’ve got two competing dilemmas or problems that we’re trying to deal

or problems that we’re trying to deal

or problems that we’re trying to deal with the first is as old as as mankind

with the first is as old as as mankind

with the first is as old as as mankind it’s been around forever and the second

it’s been around forever and the second

it’s been around forever and the second one as bad as old as me the first one is

one as bad as old as me the first one is

one as bad as old as me the first one is man’s innate desire for better quality

man’s innate desire for better quality

man’s innate desire for better quality of life constantly is striving for food

of life constantly is striving for food

of life constantly is striving for food heat health education a constant need

heat health education a constant need

heat health education a constant need and through the years it’s been realized

and through the years it’s been realized

and through the years it’s been realized that in order to get that we actually

that in order to get that we actually

that in order to get that we actually need energy we need energy to do that

need energy we need energy to do that

need energy we need energy to do that and in fact what’s happened then through

and in fact what’s happened then through

and in fact what’s happened then through the years is that that as that’s

the years is that that as that’s

the years is that that as that’s increased and the population has

increased and the population has

increased and the population has increased the need for energy has

increased the need for energy has

increased the need for energy has continued to increase through the ages

continued to increase through the ages

continued to increase through the ages it’s increased but as you look at it

it’s increased but as you look at it

it’s increased but as you look at it over just the last few decades and

over just the last few decades and

over just the last few decades and projecting into the future we see even

projecting into the future we see even

projecting into the future we see even with conservation we’re going to need

with conservation we’re going to need

with conservation we’re going to need more and more energy it’s going to

more and more energy it’s going to

more and more energy it’s going to continue so how have we been getting

continue so how have we been getting

continue so how have we been getting energy through the ages have we done

energy through the ages have we done

energy through the ages have we done that I was man done that well it

that I was man done that well it

that I was man done that well it actually started first thing with

actually started first thing with

actually started first thing with discovering fire that was a good move

discovering fire that was a good move

discovering fire that was a good move now we needed fuel so what we burn we

now we needed fuel so what we burn we

now we needed fuel so what we burn we burn grass we burn dung we burn wood we

burn grass we burn dung we burn wood we

burn grass we burn dung we burn wood we found charcoal we discovered oil in

found charcoal we discovered oil in

found charcoal we discovered oil in 1920s great more concentrated more and

1920s great more concentrated more and

1920s great more concentrated more and more energy more and more need more

more energy more and more need more

more energy more and more need more population we move to win to solar

population we move to win to solar

population we move to win to solar and then ultimately to splitting atoms

and then ultimately to splitting atoms

and then ultimately to splitting atoms more concentrated energy right great

more concentrated energy right great

more concentrated energy right great what’s that given us well energy is that

what’s that given us well energy is that

what’s that given us well energy is that driving force that we need for a better

driving force that we need for a better

driving force that we need for a better quality of life that’s what it’s all

quality of life that’s what it’s all

quality of life that’s what it’s all about you have to have energy for all

about you have to have energy for all

about you have to have energy for all those things that we’re striving for but

those things that we’re striving for but

those things that we’re striving for but then the second dilemma and it’s

then the second dilemma and it’s

then the second dilemma and it’s intertwined and it’s on a collision

intertwined and it’s on a collision

intertwined and it’s on a collision course really with this with this first

course really with this with this first

course really with this with this first desire that we’ve all been striving for

desire that we’ve all been striving for

desire that we’ve all been striving for and you guessed it pollution global

and you guessed it pollution global

and you guessed it pollution global warming it’s on us right now I mean with

warming it’s on us right now I mean with

warming it’s on us right now I mean with unfortunately with this striving for

unfortunately with this striving for

unfortunately with this striving for more and more energy we’ve caused

more and more energy we’ve caused

more and more energy we’ve caused pollution and for the thing the very

pollution and for the thing the very

pollution and for the thing the very thing that we’ve individually been

thing that we’ve individually been

thing that we’ve individually been trying to get that energy that quality

trying to get that energy that quality

trying to get that energy that quality of life is the very thing right now that

of life is the very thing right now that

of life is the very thing right now that could undermine what we want that better

could undermine what we want that better

could undermine what we want that better quality of life because of the global

quality of life because of the global

quality of life because of the global warming because of the climate change so

warming because of the climate change so

warming because of the climate change so we are on this collision course and in

we are on this collision course and in

we are on this collision course and in fact it was back in 1896 that Arrhenius

fact it was back in 1896 that Arrhenius

fact it was back in 1896 that Arrhenius a Swedish physical chemist first talked

a Swedish physical chemist first talked

a Swedish physical chemist first talked about this but it really didn’t take it

about this but it really didn’t take it

about this but it really didn’t take it took us at least till nineteen seventy

took us at least till nineteen seventy

took us at least till nineteen seventy or nineteen eighty four for scientists

or nineteen eighty four for scientists

or nineteen eighty four for scientists to get behind us and really say that

to get behind us and really say that

to get behind us and really say that this is something that’s happening to us

this is something that’s happening to us

this is something that’s happening to us it took till 2000 for countries to agree

it took till 2000 for countries to agree

it took till 2000 for countries to agree that I think this really is something

that I think this really is something

that I think this really is something that’s happening and it it really only

that’s happening and it it really only

that’s happening and it it really only took until the last couple of years that

took until the last couple of years that

took until the last couple of years that the nations have a realization that this

the nations have a realization that this

the nations have a realization that this is not only upon us but it’s

is not only upon us but it’s

is not only upon us but it’s accelerating the collision course is on

accelerating the collision course is on

accelerating the collision course is on us and we have to limit the future

us and we have to limit the future

us and we have to limit the future warming by 2 degrees so this is

warming by 2 degrees so this is

warming by 2 degrees so this is important so really what our formula

important so really what our formula

important so really what our formula here is clean energy

is essential to a good quality of life

is essential to a good quality of life that’s the important aspect clean energy

that’s the important aspect clean energy

that’s the important aspect clean energy well let’s go back and look and see

well let’s go back and look and see

well let’s go back and look and see where are we getting our energy right

where are we getting our energy right

where are we getting our energy right now well right now across the world we

now well right now across the world we

now well right now across the world we get energy from these major sources

get energy from these major sources

get energy from these major sources right now and the first three the coal

right now and the first three the coal

right now and the first three the coal and the gas and the oil which are

and the gas and the oil which are

and the gas and the oil which are seventy percent of our power generation

seventy percent of our power generation

seventy percent of our power generation right now seventy percent has huge

right now seventy percent has huge

right now seventy percent has huge amount of co2 gases and only thirty

amount of co2 gases and only thirty

amount of co2 gases and only thirty percent of our power right now is

percent of our power right now is

percent of our power right now is provided by these clean technologies

provided by these clean technologies

provided by these clean technologies green technologies so we really need to

green technologies so we really need to

green technologies so we really need to do something let’s focus let’s figure

do something let’s focus let’s figure

do something let’s focus let’s figure out right now what is it what is that

out right now what is it what is that

out right now what is it what is that that one source of energy that we need

that one source of energy that we need

that one source of energy that we need to really pursue and get behind here to

to really pursue and get behind here to

to really pursue and get behind here to make sure that we head this off of the

make sure that we head this off of the

make sure that we head this off of the pass or minimize the impact let’s walk

pass or minimize the impact let’s walk

pass or minimize the impact let’s walk through them real quick let’s talk about

through them real quick let’s talk about

through them real quick let’s talk about solar great energy source a bit

solar great energy source a bit

solar great energy source a bit expensive but we have we have the Sun

expensive but we have we have the Sun

expensive but we have we have the Sun the only problem is the Sun does set it

the only problem is the Sun does set it

the only problem is the Sun does set it is intermittent so there is times that

is intermittent so there is times that

is intermittent so there is times that we need to backup power supply what we

we need to backup power supply what we

we need to backup power supply what we need to develop more and even with all

need to develop more and even with all

need to develop more and even with all the work that’s gone on over the last

the work that’s gone on over the last

the work that’s gone on over the last few decades the investment in the

few decades the investment in the

few decades the investment in the subsidy the amount of energy it provides

subsidy the amount of energy it provides

subsidy the amount of energy it provides to the world is still very low let’s

to the world is still very low let’s

to the world is still very low let’s look at when we see many wind farms

look at when we see many wind farms

look at when we see many wind farms popping up around the world wind is

popping up around the world wind is

popping up around the world wind is great it’s very very clean but the fact

great it’s very very clean but the fact

great it’s very very clean but the fact of the matter is it’s also intermittent

of the matter is it’s also intermittent

of the matter is it’s also intermittent the wind does not always blow and not

the wind does not always blow and not

the wind does not always blow and not always and out in all locations

always and out in all locations

always and out in all locations hydroelectric is fantastic very cheap

hydroelectric is fantastic very cheap

hydroelectric is fantastic very cheap very clean but the reality is it’s

very clean but the reality is it’s

very clean but the reality is it’s almost topped out sixteen percent of our

almost topped out sixteen percent of our

almost topped out sixteen percent of our power from hydroelectric right now we

power from hydroelectric right now we

power from hydroelectric right now we don’t have too much further to go and

don’t have too much further to go and

don’t have too much further to go and locations and in fact it costs a lot

locations and in fact it costs a lot

locations and in fact it costs a lot there’s a lot of upfront initial

there’s a lot of upfront initial

there’s a lot of upfront initial investment in order to get a

investment in order to get a

investment in order to get a hydroelectric plant and huge swathes of

hydroelectric plant and huge swathes of

hydroelectric plant and huge swathes of land but it’s important in the mix

land but it’s important in the mix

land but it’s important in the mix well finally let’s talk about nuclear

well finally let’s talk about nuclear

well finally let’s talk about nuclear nuclear is as as cheap and as clean as

nuclear is as as cheap and as clean as

nuclear is as as cheap and as clean as hydroelectric it has a huge initial

hydroelectric it has a huge initial

hydroelectric it has a huge initial investment the way we produce nuclear

investment the way we produce nuclear

investment the way we produce nuclear energy right now those big power plants

energy right now those big power plants

energy right now those big power plants on our grids are very expensive to start

on our grids are very expensive to start

on our grids are very expensive to start but once up and running are as

but once up and running are as

but once up and running are as inexpensive as hydroelectric is so a

inexpensive as hydroelectric is so a

inexpensive as hydroelectric is so a great power source the situation though

great power source the situation though

great power source the situation though is that there’s a number of perceived

is that there’s a number of perceived

is that there’s a number of perceived issues obviously with nuclear and we’ve

issues obviously with nuclear and we’ve

issues obviously with nuclear and we’ve all heard them all the time and I i say

all heard them all the time and I i say

all heard them all the time and I i say perceived because i believe that some is

perceived because i believe that some is

perceived because i believe that some is miscommunication on the issues and some

miscommunication on the issues and some

miscommunication on the issues and some of it is actually that there are

of it is actually that there are

of it is actually that there are technical solutions to some of these

technical solutions to some of these

technical solutions to some of these problems let’s walk through them first

problems let’s walk through them first

problems let’s walk through them first waste well that’s interesting the energy

waste well that’s interesting the energy

waste well that’s interesting the energy source we use now seventy percent of the

source we use now seventy percent of the

source we use now seventy percent of the time just releases their waste into the

time just releases their waste into the

time just releases their waste into the atmosphere hence our global warming

atmosphere hence our global warming

atmosphere hence our global warming nuclear we know exactly where our waste

nuclear we know exactly where our waste

nuclear we know exactly where our waste is we contain it we store it and we have

is we contain it we store it and we have

is we contain it we store it and we have ways to deal with that safely and in

ways to deal with that safely and in

ways to deal with that safely and in fact a lifetime’s worth of energy from a

fact a lifetime’s worth of energy from a

fact a lifetime’s worth of energy from a nuclear power plant would only have one

nuclear power plant would only have one

nuclear power plant would only have one soda can full of waste for an individual

think we can deal with it the second is

think we can deal with it the second is radiation the fact of the matter is

radiation the fact of the matter is

radiation the fact of the matter is radiation from our nuclear power plants

radiation from our nuclear power plants

radiation from our nuclear power plants whether you live right next door or far

whether you live right next door or far

whether you live right next door or far away has no impact on your health it’s

away has no impact on your health it’s

away has no impact on your health it’s proven in fact what’s really interesting

proven in fact what’s really interesting

proven in fact what’s really interesting and we study this up the road here at

and we study this up the road here at

and we study this up the road here at the lab is the low levels of radiation

the lab is the low levels of radiation

the lab is the low levels of radiation that the workforce gets that maintains

that the workforce gets that maintains

that the workforce gets that maintains those reactors that level is beneficial

those reactors that level is beneficial

those reactors that level is beneficial to their health that’s right news flash

to their health that’s right news flash

to their health that’s right news flash but that I’ll do it another TED talk

but that I’ll do it another TED talk

but that I’ll do it another TED talk because it is pretty interesting the

because it is pretty interesting the

because it is pretty interesting the third issue is safety and there’s no

third issue is safety and there’s no

third issue is safety and there’s no ducking it we’ve had our safety issues

ducking it we’ve had our safety issues

ducking it we’ve had our safety issues what if you compare it to every other

what if you compare it to every other

what if you compare it to every other energy source every other energy source

energy source every other energy source

energy source every other energy source has had their safety issues and when you

has had their safety issues and when you

has had their safety issues and when you compare it across the board we have the

compare it across the board we have the

compare it across the board we have the best safety performance as well so

best safety performance as well so

best safety performance as well so you’ve heard the pros and cons from each

you’ve heard the pros and cons from each

you’ve heard the pros and cons from each of these now which one we going to pick

of these now which one we going to pick

of these now which one we going to pick which we’re going to are we going to

which we’re going to are we going to

which we’re going to are we going to vote on to get behind which one is it it

vote on to get behind which one is it it

vote on to get behind which one is it it isn’t one it’s all of them that is what

isn’t one it’s all of them that is what

isn’t one it’s all of them that is what we have to do we’re running out of time

we have to do we’re running out of time

we have to do we’re running out of time now the planet is already warming up it

now the planet is already warming up it

now the planet is already warming up it would be great for the next big thing

would be great for the next big thing

would be great for the next big thing and we’ll continue to look for it but

and we’ll continue to look for it but

and we’ll continue to look for it but right now we need to get behind all of

right now we need to get behind all of

right now we need to get behind all of these in order to reduce the seventy

these in order to reduce the seventy

these in order to reduce the seventy percent on the fossil fuels because if

percent on the fossil fuels because if

percent on the fossil fuels because if we don’t our quality life is not going

we don’t our quality life is not going

we don’t our quality life is not going to be there but this is complicated this

to be there but this is complicated this

to be there but this is complicated this is kind of tricky and where then do you

is kind of tricky and where then do you

is kind of tricky and where then do you apply these and where don’t you apply

apply these and where don’t you apply

apply these and where don’t you apply them so I think the better way to

them so I think the better way to

them so I think the better way to actually look at this is to do a bit of

actually look at this is to do a bit of

actually look at this is to do a bit of a case study do it look at a microcosm

a case study do it look at a microcosm

a case study do it look at a microcosm that’s happening and in Canada right now

that’s happening and in Canada right now

that’s happening and in Canada right now in the Canadian Arctic we have a very

in the Canadian Arctic we have a very

in the Canadian Arctic we have a very unique situation and it’s becoming even

unique situation and it’s becoming even

unique situation and it’s becoming even more tenuous for the population of

more tenuous for the population of

more tenuous for the population of people that are up there there’s about

people that are up there there’s about

people that are up there there’s about 200,000 First Nations people that are

200,000 First Nations people that are

200,000 First Nations people that are spread across a very sparsely populated

spread across a very sparsely populated

spread across a very sparsely populated obviously swathes of land up there 297

obviously swathes of land up there 297

obviously swathes of land up there 297 communities 253 of them today rely on

communities 253 of them today rely on

communities 253 of them today rely on diesel power solely and as you saw from

diesel power solely and as you saw from

diesel power solely and as you saw from the graph earlier essentially oil it has

the graph earlier essentially oil it has

the graph earlier essentially oil it has one of the worst co2 footprints it has

one of the worst co2 footprints it has

one of the worst co2 footprints it has another problem to it shoots out suit

another problem to it shoots out suit

another problem to it shoots out suit which even causes more problems on their

which even causes more problems on their

which even causes more problems on their on their ice and their snow which is

on their ice and their snow which is

on their ice and their snow which is impacting their quality of life but even

impacting their quality of life but even

impacting their quality of life but even more so it’s impacting how they get

more so it’s impacting how they get

more so it’s impacting how they get their energy because the fact of the

their energy because the fact of the

their energy because the fact of the matter is you have to do a lot of

matter is you have to do a lot of

matter is you have to do a lot of transportation in order to get that

transportation in order to get that

transportation in order to get that energy source up there to get that

energy source up there to get that

energy source up there to get that diesel fuel up there and right now they

diesel fuel up there and right now they

diesel fuel up there and right now they primarily rely upon ice roads and you’ve

primarily rely upon ice roads and you’ve

primarily rely upon ice roads and you’ve probably seen the show and

probably seen the show and

probably seen the show and having a lots of problems with ice roads

having a lots of problems with ice roads

having a lots of problems with ice roads why because of global warming they’re

why because of global warming they’re

why because of global warming they’re becoming less reliable the loads have to

becoming less reliable the loads have to

becoming less reliable the loads have to be lighter and they’re having a lot a

be lighter and they’re having a lot a

be lighter and they’re having a lot a lot of failures so they have to then day

lot of failures so they have to then day

lot of failures so they have to then day then hopefully if they’re near a port

then hopefully if they’re near a port

then hopefully if they’re near a port they’ll ship it in but because of the

they’ll ship it in but because of the

they’ll ship it in but because of the ice flow changes and the global warming

ice flow changes and the global warming

ice flow changes and the global warming going on right now and the fact of the

going on right now and the fact of the

going on right now and the fact of the matter is only fourteen percent of the

matter is only fourteen percent of the

matter is only fourteen percent of the sea ways are charted in those locales

sea ways are charted in those locales

sea ways are charted in those locales they’re having problems their ships

they’re having problems their ships

they’re having problems their ships running aground spills again they don’t

running aground spills again they don’t

running aground spills again they don’t have their supply of energy their

have their supply of energy their

have their supply of energy their quality of life not there many of the

quality of life not there many of the

quality of life not there many of the communities now have to rely rely on

communities now have to rely rely on

communities now have to rely rely on airlift to get their diesel and can you

airlift to get their diesel and can you

airlift to get their diesel and can you imagine that they spend more energy

imagine that they spend more energy

imagine that they spend more energy flying the diesel in than the amount of

flying the diesel in than the amount of

flying the diesel in than the amount of diesel that they get in order to keep

diesel that they get in order to keep

diesel that they get in order to keep their communities going huge impact on

their communities going huge impact on

their communities going huge impact on their quality of life i think i’d like

their quality of life i think i’d like

their quality of life i think i’d like to show here’s a situation here

to show here’s a situation here

to show here’s a situation here beautiful location can’t believe that

beautiful location can’t believe that

beautiful location can’t believe that view in this town of penger tongue in

view in this town of penger tongue in

view in this town of penger tongue in Nunavut and back in April of 2015 they

Nunavut and back in April of 2015 they

Nunavut and back in April of 2015 they experienced a fire that took out their

experienced a fire that took out their

experienced a fire that took out their diesel generator set and this is how

diesel generator set and this is how

diesel generator set and this is how fragile their energy supply is because

fragile their energy supply is because

fragile their energy supply is because of that this population of 15 people had

of that this population of 15 people had

of that this population of 15 people had to gather in the school to stay warm it

to gather in the school to stay warm it

to gather in the school to stay warm it took days before they got back up energy

took days before they got back up energy

took days before they got back up energy so they could stay warm and cook food

so they could stay warm and cook food

so they could stay warm and cook food shut down the town no school health care

shut down the town no school health care

shut down the town no school health care jobs it took a month to be able to fly

jobs it took a month to be able to fly

jobs it took a month to be able to fly in backup energy for them a month that

in backup energy for them a month that

in backup energy for them a month that is not the right quality of life but

is not the right quality of life but

is not the right quality of life but they deserve a better quality of life so

they deserve a better quality of life so

they deserve a better quality of life so let’s walk through our options here ah

let’s walk through our options here ah

let’s walk through our options here ah one other point sorry I’m going to go

one other point sorry I’m going to go

one other point sorry I’m going to go back they deserve a better quality of

back they deserve a better quality of

back they deserve a better quality of life but here’s the point so let’s look

life but here’s the point so let’s look

life but here’s the point so let’s look at each one of their energy sources and

at each one of their energy sources and

at each one of their energy sources and what could they what could they use up

what could they what could they use up

what could they what could they use up there besides diesel well first let’s

there besides diesel well first let’s

there besides diesel well first let’s look at wind wind is clean and you don’t

look at wind wind is clean and you don’t

look at wind wind is clean and you don’t have to ship it in the truck

have to ship it in the truck

have to ship it in the truck just kind of flies in but think about it

just kind of flies in but think about it

just kind of flies in but think about it they call it dead of winter for a reason

they call it dead of winter for a reason

they call it dead of winter for a reason there isn’t a lot of wind so that’s not

there isn’t a lot of wind so that’s not

there isn’t a lot of wind so that’s not going to work they’re going to need

going to work they’re going to need

going to work they’re going to need diesel backup think about solar Solar’s

diesel backup think about solar Solar’s

diesel backup think about solar Solar’s great it’s pretty dark out here already

great it’s pretty dark out here already

great it’s pretty dark out here already tonight can you imagine what December’s

tonight can you imagine what December’s

tonight can you imagine what December’s like in these northern communities they

like in these northern communities they

like in these northern communities they have 12 minutes of sunshine on a

have 12 minutes of sunshine on a

have 12 minutes of sunshine on a winter’s night that’s not going to keep

winter’s night that’s not going to keep

winter’s night that’s not going to keep you warm so you’re going to have to have

you warm so you’re going to have to have

you warm so you’re going to have to have a backup system hydroelectric would be

a backup system hydroelectric would be

a backup system hydroelectric would be great but because of the vast distances

great but because of the vast distances

great but because of the vast distances and the tundra it is not effective for

and the tundra it is not effective for

and the tundra it is not effective for them to have power transmission lines

them to have power transmission lines

them to have power transmission lines and enjoy the hydroelectric that is

and enjoy the hydroelectric that is

and enjoy the hydroelectric that is available in some communities but they

available in some communities but they

available in some communities but they can’t distribute it so even if they go

can’t distribute it so even if they go

can’t distribute it so even if they go to wind ins in solar the fact is they’ll

to wind ins in solar the fact is they’ll

to wind ins in solar the fact is they’ll only be able to reduce their diesel

only be able to reduce their diesel

only be able to reduce their diesel usage by a third so we don’t really have

usage by a third so we don’t really have

usage by a third so we don’t really have a solution with these ah so here’s what

a solution with these ah so here’s what

a solution with these ah so here’s what I want to talk about it isn’t very often

I want to talk about it isn’t very often

I want to talk about it isn’t very often that you can see a solution to a problem

that you can see a solution to a problem

that you can see a solution to a problem that you could call it a silver bullet

that you could call it a silver bullet

that you could call it a silver bullet and I believe that we’re in a situation

and I believe that we’re in a situation

and I believe that we’re in a situation for these northern communities that a

for these northern communities that a

for these northern communities that a very small modular reactor could provide

very small modular reactor could provide

very small modular reactor could provide the energy that they need that would be

the energy that they need that would be

the energy that they need that would be sustainable for these communities going

sustainable for these communities going

sustainable for these communities going forward so what is it let me talk about

forward so what is it let me talk about

forward so what is it let me talk about it a little bit well first of all it’s

it a little bit well first of all it’s

it a little bit well first of all it’s based upon the same technology that we

based upon the same technology that we

based upon the same technology that we have across the world and 450 reactors

have across the world and 450 reactors

have across the world and 450 reactors that we’ve been operating for four

that we’ve been operating for four

that we’ve been operating for four decades across the world it’s based on

decades across the world it’s based on

decades across the world it’s based on that but it’s not a large reactor that

that but it’s not a large reactor that

that but it’s not a large reactor that provides power to 500,000 or a million

provides power to 500,000 or a million

provides power to 500,000 or a million people this is what it says a very small

people this is what it says a very small

people this is what it says a very small reactor about a percent of that power

reactor about a percent of that power

reactor about a percent of that power provide energy for 500 to 5,000 people

provide energy for 500 to 5,000 people

provide energy for 500 to 5,000 people both electricity and steam for heat

both electricity and steam for heat

both electricity and steam for heat wonder is it safe though well in fact

wonder is it safe though well in fact

wonder is it safe though well in fact these new designs are inherently safe in

these new designs are inherently safe in

these new designs are inherently safe in an upset condition they do not need any

an upset condition they do not need any

an upset condition they do not need any operator

operator

operator intervention they do not need external

intervention they do not need external

intervention they do not need external water or power to maintain safe is it

water or power to maintain safe is it

water or power to maintain safe is it cost-effective as we look at the

cost-effective as we look at the

cost-effective as we look at the projections right now it’s cheaper than

projections right now it’s cheaper than

projections right now it’s cheaper than diesel diesel and solar or diesel and

diesel diesel and solar or diesel and

diesel diesel and solar or diesel and wind so yes cheap power and think of the

wind so yes cheap power and think of the

wind so yes cheap power and think of the logistics the other word in that title

logistics the other word in that title

logistics the other word in that title is modular think Henry Ford these

is modular think Henry Ford these

is modular think Henry Ford these reactors will be built in a factory on

reactors will be built in a factory on

reactors will be built in a factory on an assembly line for quality for cost

an assembly line for quality for cost

an assembly line for quality for cost efficiencies but then they’re put on a

efficiencies but then they’re put on a

efficiencies but then they’re put on a truck and transported assembled and used

truck and transported assembled and used

truck and transported assembled and used for 15 to 20 years they’re fueled ahead

for 15 to 20 years they’re fueled ahead

for 15 to 20 years they’re fueled ahead of time no more logistics headaches

of time no more logistics headaches

of time no more logistics headaches waiting for shipments of oil for diesel

waiting for shipments of oil for diesel

waiting for shipments of oil for diesel to come in to keep the community after

to come in to keep the community after

to come in to keep the community after those 15 to 20 years returned

those 15 to 20 years returned

those 15 to 20 years returned refurbished reloaded back out again

refurbished reloaded back out again

refurbished reloaded back out again clean yes no emissions zero clean energy

clean yes no emissions zero clean energy

clean yes no emissions zero clean energy for a better quality of life so why

for a better quality of life so why

for a better quality of life so why don’t we have them now I’ve been asked

don’t we have them now I’ve been asked

don’t we have them now I’ve been asked this before because there’s a buzz

this before because there’s a buzz

this before because there’s a buzz around this right now scientific

around this right now scientific

around this right now scientific communities government communities why

communities government communities why

communities government communities why don’t we have them where are they well

don’t we have them where are they well

don’t we have them where are they well in fact 30 years ago Canadian nuclear

in fact 30 years ago Canadian nuclear

in fact 30 years ago Canadian nuclear laboratories along with some other

laboratories along with some other

laboratories along with some other laboratories designed a prototype and

laboratories designed a prototype and

laboratories designed a prototype and proved proved it in principle but

proved proved it in principle but

proved proved it in principle but because of cheap dirty energy for many

because of cheap dirty energy for many

because of cheap dirty energy for many years we just continued and we didn’t

years we just continued and we didn’t

years we just continued and we didn’t see that collision course that was

see that collision course that was

see that collision course that was happening with the fossil fuels we

happening with the fossil fuels we

happening with the fossil fuels we didn’t realize how dire it was until

didn’t realize how dire it was until

didn’t realize how dire it was until just recently so what’s interesting is

just recently so what’s interesting is

just recently so what’s interesting is the time is now and in fact there’s many

the time is now and in fact there’s many

the time is now and in fact there’s many countries out there currently right now

countries out there currently right now

countries out there currently right now Russia China United States United

Russia China United States United

Russia China United States United Kingdom are all looking at this and

Kingdom are all looking at this and

Kingdom are all looking at this and racing to bring small modular reactors

racing to bring small modular reactors

racing to bring small modular reactors online for their remote communities as

online for their remote communities as

online for their remote communities as well as for export to help remote

well as for export to help remote

well as for export to help remote communities around the world but what I

communities around the world but what I

communities around the world but what I find interesting is the situation that

find interesting is the situation that

find interesting is the situation that we have right here in Canada

we have right here in Canada

we have right here in Canada and it is really unique at this moment

and it is really unique at this moment

and it is really unique at this moment let me explain why first of all I’ve had

let me explain why first of all I’ve had

let me explain why first of all I’ve had the opportunity to work for 40 years in

the opportunity to work for 40 years in

the opportunity to work for 40 years in the nuclear industry around the world is

the nuclear industry around the world is

the nuclear industry around the world is in fact I worked in three tier 1

in fact I worked in three tier 1

in fact I worked in three tier 1 countries United States United Kingdom

countries United States United Kingdom

countries United States United Kingdom and Canada and I’ve worked alongside the

and Canada and I’ve worked alongside the

and Canada and I’ve worked alongside the committed the caring and the technically

committed the caring and the technically

committed the caring and the technically competent people in that industry and

competent people in that industry and

competent people in that industry and I’ve seen different circumstances with

I’ve seen different circumstances with

I’ve seen different circumstances with government where government is going

government where government is going

government where government is going where the communities are and what the

where the communities are and what the

where the communities are and what the needs are and right here in Canada now

needs are and right here in Canada now

needs are and right here in Canada now we’re we’re aligned in a way that is

we’re we’re aligned in a way that is

we’re we’re aligned in a way that is unique compared to any of those other

unique compared to any of those other

unique compared to any of those other countries and why is that well first you

countries and why is that well first you

countries and why is that well first you heard the need we have a critical need

heard the need we have a critical need

heard the need we have a critical need and we don’t have another solution at

and we don’t have another solution at

and we don’t have another solution at hand and they deserve a better quality

hand and they deserve a better quality

hand and they deserve a better quality of life the second point is if you

of life the second point is if you

of life the second point is if you listen to the federal mandates right now

listen to the federal mandates right now

listen to the federal mandates right now that government is talking about we

that government is talking about we

that government is talking about we align better quality of life for First

align better quality of life for First

align better quality of life for First Nations lowering the greenhouse gases in

Nations lowering the greenhouse gases in

Nations lowering the greenhouse gases in Canada as well as around the world

Canada as well as around the world

Canada as well as around the world innovation we heard that earlier today

innovation we heard that earlier today

innovation we heard that earlier today innovation to put Canada in the front

innovation to put Canada in the front

innovation to put Canada in the front infrastructure we need to renew the

infrastructure we need to renew the

infrastructure we need to renew the infrastructure so we have alignment

infrastructure so we have alignment

infrastructure so we have alignment there you look at the prevention

there you look at the prevention

there you look at the prevention provincial governments each of them

provincial governments each of them

provincial governments each of them right now have huge resources that they

right now have huge resources that they

right now have huge resources that they would like to pull out for prosperity

would like to pull out for prosperity

would like to pull out for prosperity and they have a needs but the number one

and they have a needs but the number one

and they have a needs but the number one source that they don’t have in order to

source that they don’t have in order to

source that they don’t have in order to make that happen is energy a good source

make that happen is energy a good source

make that happen is energy a good source of clean energy to make that happen we

of clean energy to make that happen we

of clean energy to make that happen we have it and then you look further behind

have it and then you look further behind

have it and then you look further behind that you look at the Canadian Nuclear

that you look at the Canadian Nuclear

that you look at the Canadian Nuclear utility industry here a safety record

utility industry here a safety record

utility industry here a safety record second and none you look at the supply

second and none you look at the supply

second and none you look at the supply chain that’s that support them they’ve

chain that’s that support them they’ve

chain that’s that support them they’ve been doing it for decades and their

been doing it for decades and their

been doing it for decades and their stand they stand ready to support an

stand they stand ready to support an

stand they stand ready to support an initiative like this you look at the

initiative like this you look at the

initiative like this you look at the regulatory regime the envy of the world

regulatory regime the envy of the world

regulatory regime the envy of the world safe competent and then you look up the

safe competent and then you look up the

safe competent and then you look up the road here are Canadian nuclear

road here are Canadian nuclear

road here are Canadian nuclear laboratories and they have a history

laboratories and they have a history

laboratories and they have a history that

that

that bringing prototypes to life that they’ve

bringing prototypes to life that they’ve

bringing prototypes to life that they’ve been doing now for almost 50 years so

been doing now for almost 50 years so

been doing now for almost 50 years so what I see in the very near future is I

what I see in the very near future is I

what I see in the very near future is I see an opportunity for prototypes placed

see an opportunity for prototypes placed

see an opportunity for prototypes placed at some of the Canadian nuclear

at some of the Canadian nuclear

at some of the Canadian nuclear laboratory sites working through the

laboratory sites working through the

laboratory sites working through the issues working with the communities to

issues working with the communities to

issues working with the communities to answer their questions working with the

answer their questions working with the

answer their questions working with the regulators proving it I see a

regulators proving it I see a

regulators proving it I see a factory-built I see reactors being used

factory-built I see reactors being used

factory-built I see reactors being used in these northern communities as well as

in these northern communities as well as

in these northern communities as well as exported around the world so I see

exported around the world so I see

exported around the world so I see prosperity for Canada and our helping

prosperity for Canada and our helping

prosperity for Canada and our helping the global issue that we have right now

the global issue that we have right now

the global issue that we have right now with global warming thank you very much

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