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when Warren Buffett addressed the

when Warren Buffett addressed the audience at his annual shareholders

audience at his annual shareholders

audience at his annual shareholders meeting this year as a respected

meeting this year as a respected

meeting this year as a respected business leader and thought leader the

business leader and thought leader the

business leader and thought leader the audience expected to hear his take on

audience expected to hear his take on

audience expected to hear his take on corporate tax reform and the benefits

corporate tax reform and the benefits

corporate tax reform and the benefits afforded to his business as a result but

afforded to his business as a result but

afforded to his business as a result but Buffett took the occasion to send an

Buffett took the occasion to send an

Buffett took the occasion to send an entirely different message in truth he

entirely different message in truth he

entirely different message in truth he said a Spectre far more sinister than

said a Spectre far more sinister than

said a Spectre far more sinister than corporate taxes looms over corporate

corporate taxes looms over corporate

corporate taxes looms over corporate American business and that issue is

American business and that issue is

American business and that issue is health care cost nobody went on to say

health care cost nobody went on to say

health care cost nobody went on to say was that health care costs are rising at

was that health care costs are rising at

was that health care costs are rising at a rate so rapid right that they are

a rate so rapid right that they are

a rate so rapid right that they are consuming the profits of corporate

consuming the profits of corporate

consuming the profits of corporate businesses and he set it up this way

businesses and he set it up this way

businesses and he set it up this way he says compare that the corporate tax

he says compare that the corporate tax

he says compare that the corporate tax rates versus health care expenses over a

rates versus health care expenses over a

rates versus health care expenses over a period of time and so we went back to

period of time and so we went back to

period of time and so we went back to the 1960s and said corporate tax as a

the 1960s and said corporate tax as a

the 1960s and said corporate tax as a percent of GDP or the value of the

percent of GDP or the value of the

percent of GDP or the value of the economy was 4% in the 60s but today that

economy was 4% in the 60s but today that

economy was 4% in the 60s but today that number is just 2% of the value of our

number is just 2% of the value of our

number is just 2% of the value of our economy well keep that in perspective in

economy well keep that in perspective in

economy well keep that in perspective in terms of the magnitude but let’s look at

terms of the magnitude but let’s look at

terms of the magnitude but let’s look at health care cost over that same time

health care cost over that same time

health care cost over that same time period 50 years ago healthcare costs

period 50 years ago healthcare costs

period 50 years ago healthcare costs comprise just 5% of the value of the

comprise just 5% of the value of the

comprise just 5% of the value of the economy overall today they comprise 17%

economy overall today they comprise 17%

economy overall today they comprise 17% and growing there’s no end in sight

and growing there’s no end in sight

and growing there’s no end in sight greater than three times approaching

greater than three times approaching

greater than three times approaching four times what they were and so now you

four times what they were and so now you

four times what they were and so now you can appreciate why Buffett and every

can appreciate why Buffett and every

can appreciate why Buffett and every business leader and you and I should

business leader and you and I should

business leader and you and I should also be so concerned about this cost now

also be so concerned about this cost now

also be so concerned about this cost now a Buffett didn’t do is talk about the

a Buffett didn’t do is talk about the

a Buffett didn’t do is talk about the ways that we can reduce cost but I can

ways that we can reduce cost but I can

ways that we can reduce cost but I can assure you there are things that we can

assure you there are things that we can

assure you there are things that we can do and we must do to reduce cost but

do and we must do to reduce cost but

do and we must do to reduce cost but also improve quality and improve the

also improve quality and improve the

also improve quality and improve the patient experience and we need only look

patient experience and we need only look

patient experience and we need only look to other industries that have already

to other industries that have already

to other industries that have already done this they’ve solved equally complex

done this they’ve solved equally complex

done this they’ve solved equally complex problems with resources that are very

problems with resources that are very

problems with resources that are very similar so where do I get the confidence

similar so where do I get the confidence

similar so where do I get the confidence to say this why why do I have such

to say this why why do I have such

to say this why why do I have such conviction well I came out of a

conviction well I came out of a

conviction well I came out of a different space before healthcare I was

different space before healthcare I was

different space before healthcare I was involved in manufacturing specifically

involved in manufacturing specifically

involved in manufacturing specifically contract electronics manufacturing and

contract electronics manufacturing and

contract electronics manufacturing and in that environment we had

in that environment we had

in that environment we had stammers like General Electric and

stammers like General Electric and

stammers like General Electric and Siemens and juniper Networks and these

Siemens and juniper Networks and these

Siemens and juniper Networks and these customers were extremely demanding with

customers were extremely demanding with

customers were extremely demanding with regard to product functionality but also

regard to product functionality but also

regard to product functionality but also with regard to cost quality in the time

with regard to cost quality in the time

with regard to cost quality in the time that we would deliver and so we

that we would deliver and so we

that we would deliver and so we literally had to put a team of people

literally had to put a team of people

literally had to put a team of people together to meet the demands of these

together to meet the demands of these

together to meet the demands of these organizations so we had our design team

organizations so we had our design team

organizations so we had our design team from product design as well as our test

from product design as well as our test

from product design as well as our test engineers our manufacturing staff and

engineers our manufacturing staff and

engineers our manufacturing staff and our procurement folks the folks that

our procurement folks the folks that

our procurement folks the folks that bought the parts that were going to be

bought the parts that were going to be

bought the parts that were going to be used all together around the table to

used all together around the table to

used all together around the table to design these products to meet their need

design these products to meet their need

design these products to meet their need and we got good at this right we got so

and we got good at this right we got so

and we got good at this right we got so good at this in fact that we were known

good at this in fact that we were known

good at this in fact that we were known for it so we’d take product out of

for it so we’d take product out of

for it so we’d take product out of design get it through prototyping into

design get it through prototyping into

design get it through prototyping into low value manufacturing high volume

low value manufacturing high volume

low value manufacturing high volume manufacturing and making a profit or

manufacturing and making a profit or

manufacturing and making a profit or revenue for our customers quicker than

revenue for our customers quicker than

revenue for our customers quicker than anybody else and we’d call this process

anybody else and we’d call this process

anybody else and we’d call this process time – revenue and we’d measure

time – revenue and we’d measure

time – revenue and we’d measure ourselves based on our ability to get

ourselves based on our ability to get

ourselves based on our ability to get product from design to revenue as

product from design to revenue as

product from design to revenue as quickly as we could now we thought that

quickly as we could now we thought that

quickly as we could now we thought that was pretty good and we felt good about

was pretty good and we felt good about

was pretty good and we felt good about ourselves delivering that particular

ourselves delivering that particular

ourselves delivering that particular service but our customers said that

service but our customers said that

service but our customers said that wasn’t enough

wasn’t enough

wasn’t enough right well GE wanted was 10 percent cost

right well GE wanted was 10 percent cost

right well GE wanted was 10 percent cost reduction per year immediately after we

reduction per year immediately after we

reduction per year immediately after we got those parts into production right so

got those parts into production right so

got those parts into production right so how are you gonna do that again bring

how are you gonna do that again bring

how are you gonna do that again bring the same team back together again let’s

the same team back together again let’s

the same team back together again let’s understand how we can cost reduce those

understand how we can cost reduce those

understand how we can cost reduce those pot up those products and years – and

pot up those products and years – and

pot up those products and years – and years 3 right and so what we also knew

years 3 right and so what we also knew

years 3 right and so what we also knew was that you can’t cost reduce a product

was that you can’t cost reduce a product

was that you can’t cost reduce a product infinitely and so you can only cost

infinitely and so you can only cost

infinitely and so you can only cost reduce for an iteration or maybe two and

reduce for an iteration or maybe two and

reduce for an iteration or maybe two and then you’ve got to redesign that product

then you’ve got to redesign that product

then you’ve got to redesign that product right for current functionality using

right for current functionality using

right for current functionality using current manufacturing techniques current

current manufacturing techniques current

current manufacturing techniques current design that’s available so you can’t

design that’s available so you can’t

design that’s available so you can’t lean the rotary telephone into the

lean the rotary telephone into the

lean the rotary telephone into the iPhone right and so you’ve got to start

iPhone right and so you’ve got to start

iPhone right and so you’ve got to start over with a brand new technique and so

over with a brand new technique and so

over with a brand new technique and so healthcare can learn from that process

healthcare can learn from that process

healthcare can learn from that process right and that we’re constantly

right and that we’re constantly

right and that we’re constantly iterating right and so I grew up in this

iterating right and so I grew up in this

iterating right and so I grew up in this environment where costs came down

environment where costs came down

environment where costs came down dramatically every year not one or two

dramatically every year not one or two

dramatically every year not one or two percent but 10 to 30 percent and quality

percent but 10 to 30 percent and quality

percent but 10 to 30 percent and quality increased dramatically every year and

increased dramatically every year and

increased dramatically every year and that was the only experience that I knew

that was the only experience that I knew

that was the only experience that I knew let’s compare that now to where we are

let’s compare that now to where we are

let’s compare that now to where we are with

with

with health care ok healthcare cost when I

health care ok healthcare cost when I

health care ok healthcare cost when I joined the organization in 2007 cost

joined the organization in 2007 cost

joined the organization in 2007 cost accounting was not standard and I would

accounting was not standard and I would

accounting was not standard and I would tell you that even today Quast

tell you that even today Quast

tell you that even today Quast accounting principles are now widely

accounting principles are now widely

accounting principles are now widely used and because we don’t have cost

used and because we don’t have cost

used and because we don’t have cost accounting we can’t understand the price

accounting we can’t understand the price

accounting we can’t understand the price that it takes us to deliver a service to

that it takes us to deliver a service to

that it takes us to deliver a service to the market at a reasonable profit and

the market at a reasonable profit and

the market at a reasonable profit and establish that as our unit selling price

establish that as our unit selling price

establish that as our unit selling price it’s just not feasible so in the absence

it’s just not feasible so in the absence

it’s just not feasible so in the absence of that standard business process in

of that standard business process in

of that standard business process in healthcare the government has stood in

healthcare the government has stood in

healthcare the government has stood in and dictated the price for us so

and dictated the price for us so

and dictated the price for us so Medicare establishes the price for all

Medicare establishes the price for all

Medicare establishes the price for all medical services that are delivered

medical services that are delivered

medical services that are delivered across the country and if you’re a

across the country and if you’re a

across the country and if you’re a Medicare recipient you know exactly what

Medicare recipient you know exactly what

Medicare recipient you know exactly what the price is going to be but here’s the

the price is going to be but here’s the

the price is going to be but here’s the situation as soon as those Medicare

situation as soon as those Medicare

situation as soon as those Medicare prices came out and the physicians and

prices came out and the physicians and

prices came out and the physicians and the facility administrators looked at

the facility administrators looked at

the facility administrators looked at what they had to deal with for

what they had to deal with for

what they had to deal with for reimbursement many of them knew that

reimbursement many of them knew that

reimbursement many of them knew that they could not make money on Medicare

they could not make money on Medicare

they could not make money on Medicare alone as a payer and so they had to look

alone as a payer and so they had to look

alone as a payer and so they had to look to other sources to sell their services

to other sources to sell their services

to other sources to sell their services in order to have a viable business model

in order to have a viable business model

in order to have a viable business model and so they looked to the insurance

and so they looked to the insurance

and so they looked to the insurance companies and they look to the employers

companies and they look to the employers

companies and they look to the employers and they negotiated rates with them

and they negotiated rates with them

and they negotiated rates with them higher than Medicare and some of these

higher than Medicare and some of these

higher than Medicare and some of these organizations were relatively modest at

organizations were relatively modest at

organizations were relatively modest at the gains that they are that they were

the gains that they are that they were

the gains that they are that they were able to get so maybe 20% over a Medicare

able to get so maybe 20% over a Medicare

able to get so maybe 20% over a Medicare would be a modest increase for one of

would be a modest increase for one of

would be a modest increase for one of these providers but others were maybe a

these providers but others were maybe a

these providers but others were maybe a little bit more aggressive a bit a

little bit more aggressive a bit a

little bit more aggressive a bit a little bit more nimble than their

little bit more nimble than their

little bit more nimble than their negotiating technique and they may have

negotiating technique and they may have

negotiating technique and they may have gotten as much as four times what

gotten as much as four times what

gotten as much as four times what Medicare was willing to offer so here

Medicare was willing to offer so here

Medicare was willing to offer so here you had a situation where the exact same

you had a situation where the exact same

you had a situation where the exact same medical service delivered to patients if

medical service delivered to patients if

medical service delivered to patients if you choose location a it’s roughly $1

you choose location a it’s roughly $1

you choose location a it’s roughly $1 choose location B roughly 4 bucks right

choose location B roughly 4 bucks right

choose location B roughly 4 bucks right but this isn’t the only industry where

but this isn’t the only industry where

but this isn’t the only industry where this this issue exists right so any of

this this issue exists right so any of

this this issue exists right so any of you that have flown on an airplane

you that have flown on an airplane

you that have flown on an airplane recently what you realize when you were

recently what you realize when you were

recently what you realize when you were sitting in your middle seat and economy

sitting in your middle seat and economy

sitting in your middle seat and economy something like this the price that you

something like this the price that you

something like this the price that you paid for that seat was entirely

paid for that seat was entirely

paid for that seat was entirely different from the price of the seed or

different from the price of the seed or

different from the price of the seed or the fella just next to you right but you

the fella just next to you right but you

the fella just next to you right but you were gonna leave at exactly the same

were gonna leave at exactly the same

were gonna leave at exactly the same time

time

time and you’re gonna get served the same

and you’re gonna get served the same

and you’re gonna get served the same crummy snack in flight and you’re gonna

crummy snack in flight and you’re gonna

crummy snack in flight and you’re gonna arrive at your destination at exactly

arrive at your destination at exactly

arrive at your destination at exactly the same time and depart that airplane

the same time and depart that airplane

the same time and depart that airplane right so it’s very similar service two

right so it’s very similar service two

right so it’s very similar service two totally different prices but the

totally different prices but the

totally different prices but the difference between the airline industry

difference between the airline industry

difference between the airline industry and healthcare is that you could

and healthcare is that you could

and healthcare is that you could actually shop for the lowest price in

actually shop for the lowest price in

actually shop for the lowest price in the airline industry and sometimes

the airline industry and sometimes

the airline industry and sometimes sometimes you can get it right but there

sometimes you can get it right but there

sometimes you can get it right but there are things in in health care right that

are things in in health care right that

are things in in health care right that preclude us from being able to buy from

preclude us from being able to buy from

preclude us from being able to buy from the cheapest it’s it could be our

the cheapest it’s it could be our

the cheapest it’s it could be our insurance policy right that doesn’t

insurance policy right that doesn’t

insurance policy right that doesn’t allow us access to that lowest cost

allow us access to that lowest cost

allow us access to that lowest cost provider or facility there’s also the

provider or facility there’s also the

provider or facility there’s also the issue that we don’t pay for all of the

issue that we don’t pay for all of the

issue that we don’t pay for all of the health care bill ourselves we only pay

health care bill ourselves we only pay

health care bill ourselves we only pay for the first portion and the last piece

for the first portion and the last piece

for the first portion and the last piece is paid by our employer and/or the

is paid by our employer and/or the

is paid by our employer and/or the insurance company right so here you’re

insurance company right so here you’re

insurance company right so here you’re gonna understand basically what the

gonna understand basically what the

gonna understand basically what the health care system is up against and

health care system is up against and

health care system is up against and what we’ve got to work with in terms of

what we’ve got to work with in terms of

what we’ve got to work with in terms of a business model in healthcare ok so how

a business model in healthcare ok so how

a business model in healthcare ok so how was it I came out of my manufacturing

was it I came out of my manufacturing

was it I came out of my manufacturing space and got involved in healthcare

space and got involved in healthcare

space and got involved in healthcare well back in 2007 there were a group of

well back in 2007 there were a group of

well back in 2007 there were a group of doctors that decided they wanted to

doctors that decided they wanted to

doctors that decided they wanted to deliver healthcare totally differently

deliver healthcare totally differently

deliver healthcare totally differently and so they wanted to put together a

and so they wanted to put together a

and so they wanted to put together a facility for bone muscle and joint care

facility for bone muscle and joint care

facility for bone muscle and joint care and they created a building and in this

and they created a building and in this

and they created a building and in this building they put their physician

building they put their physician

building they put their physician offices and exam rooms but they also

offices and exam rooms but they also

offices and exam rooms but they also added diagnostic testing so x-ray and

added diagnostic testing so x-ray and

added diagnostic testing so x-ray and MRI scan and they had a surgery center

MRI scan and they had a surgery center

MRI scan and they had a surgery center there as well to do operations on site

there as well to do operations on site

there as well to do operations on site as well as physical therapy and even

as well as physical therapy and even

as well as physical therapy and even thoughts so much to add a bracing

thoughts so much to add a bracing

thoughts so much to add a bracing facility an orthotist and they created

facility an orthotist and they created

facility an orthotist and they created what they thought they had in terms of a

what they thought they had in terms of a

what they thought they had in terms of a much better delivery model a one-stop

much better delivery model a one-stop

much better delivery model a one-stop shop but when I was introduced to that

shop but when I was introduced to that

shop but when I was introduced to that and I saw what it was it felt to me more

and I saw what it was it felt to me more

and I saw what it was it felt to me more like the medical mall right I still had

like the medical mall right I still had

like the medical mall right I still had to do the shopping myself as a patient I

to do the shopping myself as a patient I

to do the shopping myself as a patient I had to go from store front to store

had to go from store front to store

had to go from store front to store front I had to deal with my own

front I had to deal with my own

front I had to deal with my own appointments and calendar and

appointments and calendar and

appointments and calendar and inefficiencies with that whole model but

inefficiencies with that whole model but

inefficiencies with that whole model but I thought to myself what if

I thought to myself what if

I thought to myself what if what if we could take that model and tip

what if we could take that model and tip

what if we could take that model and tip it on its side and again think with the

it on its side and again think with the

it on its side and again think with the end in mind and draw this process

end in mind and draw this process

end in mind and draw this process forward in a aligned fashion and

forward in a aligned fashion and

forward in a aligned fashion and actually manage the care of that patient

actually manage the care of that patient

actually manage the care of that patient for them and give access to those

for them and give access to those

for them and give access to those doctors on the same day that you wanted

doctors on the same day that you wanted

doctors on the same day that you wanted to be seen and then have diagnostic

to be seen and then have diagnostic

to be seen and then have diagnostic imaging there right away so that you

imaging there right away so that you

imaging there right away so that you could be seen and have a proper

could be seen and have a proper

could be seen and have a proper diagnosis rather than having to come

diagnosis rather than having to come

diagnosis rather than having to come back for another visit and what if I

back for another visit and what if I

back for another visit and what if I could get a treatment plan prepared

could get a treatment plan prepared

could get a treatment plan prepared quicker than anybody else and then get

quicker than anybody else and then get

quicker than anybody else and then get you back to where you were prior to your

you back to where you were prior to your

you back to where you were prior to your injury and what if we compared that

injury and what if we compared that

injury and what if we compared that entire spectrum of care to this

entire spectrum of care to this

entire spectrum of care to this manufacturing thing that I talked about

manufacturing thing that I talked about

manufacturing thing that I talked about this time to revenue and what if we call

this time to revenue and what if we call

this time to revenue and what if we call that return to lifestyle and we were

that return to lifestyle and we were

that return to lifestyle and we were able to prepare some value some true

able to prepare some value some true

able to prepare some value some true value in the market that patients would

value in the market that patients would

value in the market that patients would appreciate that employers would

appreciate that employers would

appreciate that employers would appreciate it

appreciate it

appreciate it so was with that prospect I stepped out

so was with that prospect I stepped out

so was with that prospect I stepped out of manufacturing and joined this group

of manufacturing and joined this group

of manufacturing and joined this group on this journey in healthcare and so for

on this journey in healthcare and so for

on this journey in healthcare and so for the first time in my career I stood at a

the first time in my career I stood at a

the first time in my career I stood at a crossroads the intersection of the

crossroads the intersection of the

crossroads the intersection of the manufacturing world that I knew lined

manufacturing world that I knew lined

manufacturing world that I knew lined with metrics and costs in rational

with metrics and costs in rational

with metrics and costs in rational thinking in terms of pricing and this

thinking in terms of pricing and this

thinking in terms of pricing and this world that I was about to know

world that I was about to know

world that I was about to know healthcare with all of its ambiguities

healthcare with all of its ambiguities

healthcare with all of its ambiguities and inefficiencies but the idea was can

and inefficiencies but the idea was can

and inefficiencies but the idea was can you make a impact can you make a

you make a impact can you make a

you make a impact can you make a difference by applying what you know to

difference by applying what you know to

difference by applying what you know to what you think you can do and so far

what you think you can do and so far

what you think you can do and so far here’s what I’ll tell you the results

here’s what I’ll tell you the results

here’s what I’ll tell you the results are early on and they’re very limited in

are early on and they’re very limited in

are early on and they’re very limited in scope but I feel really good about what

scope but I feel really good about what

scope but I feel really good about what we’ve been able to accomplish and I

we’ve been able to accomplish and I

we’ve been able to accomplish and I think it’s something that is repeatable

think it’s something that is repeatable

think it’s something that is repeatable and scalable so let’s just take one

and scalable so let’s just take one

and scalable so let’s just take one element right let’s pick on quality in a

element right let’s pick on quality in a

element right let’s pick on quality in a surgical environment you want to make

surgical environment you want to make

surgical environment you want to make sure you reduce infection you want to

sure you reduce infection you want to

sure you reduce infection you want to keep infection out not only for cost

keep infection out not only for cost

keep infection out not only for cost perspective but from a patient’s

perspective but from a patient’s

perspective but from a patient’s perspective it’s a miserable experience

perspective it’s a miserable experience

perspective it’s a miserable experience and so we wanted to pick on infection

and so we wanted to pick on infection

and so we wanted to pick on infection right away and reduce that you know in

right away and reduce that you know in

right away and reduce that you know in our environment but what do you choose

our environment but what do you choose

our environment but what do you choose as the target well in the manufacturing

as the target well in the manufacturing

as the target well in the manufacturing world that I came from we chose what was

world that I came from we chose what was

world that I came from we chose what was called world class Six Sigma

called world class Six Sigma

called world class Six Sigma three point four defects per million

three point four defects per million

three point four defects per million opportunities very small but in the

opportunities very small but in the

opportunities very small but in the surgery center we were only delivering

surgery center we were only delivering

surgery center we were only delivering thousands of surgeries per year so it

thousands of surgeries per year so it

thousands of surgeries per year so it was even smaller still so small in fact

was even smaller still so small in fact

was even smaller still so small in fact that that number was approximately zero

that that number was approximately zero

that that number was approximately zero and so that was our target our target

and so that was our target our target

and so that was our target our target was zero we were gonna eliminate

was zero we were gonna eliminate

was zero we were gonna eliminate infection from our operating rooms that

infection from our operating rooms that

infection from our operating rooms that was our goal and so we had to fight

was our goal and so we had to fight

was our goal and so we had to fight figure out a way to do this and so we

figure out a way to do this and so we

figure out a way to do this and so we brought our medical team around the

brought our medical team around the

brought our medical team around the table just like I had done previously

table just like I had done previously

table just like I had done previously and figured out how to design a process

and figured out how to design a process

and figured out how to design a process that was going to eliminate infection

that was going to eliminate infection

that was going to eliminate infection from the operating rooms and so some of

from the operating rooms and so some of

from the operating rooms and so some of the things were standard things that you

the things were standard things that you

the things were standard things that you would consider normal taking care of the

would consider normal taking care of the

would consider normal taking care of the facilities in the equipment to have

facilities in the equipment to have

facilities in the equipment to have sterilization processes and protocols

sterilization processes and protocols

sterilization processes and protocols that would eliminate that as being a

that would eliminate that as being a

that would eliminate that as being a contributing factor and then we also

contributing factor and then we also

contributing factor and then we also looked at Leave It or Not hand-washing

looked at Leave It or Not hand-washing

looked at Leave It or Not hand-washing it’s one of the biggest contributors to

it’s one of the biggest contributors to

it’s one of the biggest contributors to infection in an operating room the

infection in an operating room the

infection in an operating room the protocol is to wash your hands and so we

protocol is to wash your hands and so we

protocol is to wash your hands and so we made certain that not only did we have

made certain that not only did we have

made certain that not only did we have them but we followed them we followed

them but we followed them we followed

them but we followed them we followed them rigorously educating every one of

them rigorously educating every one of

them rigorously educating every one of our staff members on the importance of

our staff members on the importance of

our staff members on the importance of hand-washing when to wash your hands for

hand-washing when to wash your hands for

hand-washing when to wash your hands for what duration with what product to

what duration with what product to

what duration with what product to eliminate that as a contributing factor

eliminate that as a contributing factor

eliminate that as a contributing factor but then we went a step further we asked

but then we went a step further we asked

but then we went a step further we asked the ask experts of infectious disease

the ask experts of infectious disease

the ask experts of infectious disease from the University of wisconsin-madison

from the University of wisconsin-madison

from the University of wisconsin-madison to come in and take a look at our

to come in and take a look at our

to come in and take a look at our processes and tell us what they thought

processes and tell us what they thought

processes and tell us what they thought about where we were going and what they

about where we were going and what they

about where we were going and what they said was this you’ve got another

said was this you’ve got another

said was this you’ve got another significant contributing factor to

significant contributing factor to

significant contributing factor to infection that you haven’t considered

infection that you haven’t considered

infection that you haven’t considered and it’s you and me you see we as

and it’s you and me you see we as

and it’s you and me you see we as patients we have bacteria on our skin

patients we have bacteria on our skin

patients we have bacteria on our skin and if that bacteria is not cleaned

and if that bacteria is not cleaned

and if that bacteria is not cleaned before surgery you can actually

before surgery you can actually

before surgery you can actually introduce that bacteria into the

introduce that bacteria into the

introduce that bacteria into the surgical wound and so what the industry

surgical wound and so what the industry

surgical wound and so what the industry does is to give you an AI septic soap

does is to give you an AI septic soap

does is to give you an AI septic soap and expect you to wash preoperatively to

and expect you to wash preoperatively to

and expect you to wash preoperatively to reduce that opportunity but I can tell

reduce that opportunity but I can tell

reduce that opportunity but I can tell you even in our processes our patients

you even in our processes our patients

you even in our processes our patients were completely inconsistent in the way

were completely inconsistent in the way

were completely inconsistent in the way that they used it so again thinking with

that they used it so again thinking with

that they used it so again thinking with the end in mind drawing that education

the end in mind drawing that education

the end in mind drawing that education process from late in a game to very

process from late in a game to very

process from late in a game to very early in the game we told these patients

early in the game we told these patients

early in the game we told these patients exactly what we wanted them to do in a

exactly what we wanted them to do in a

exactly what we wanted them to do in a one-on-one education session and we said

one-on-one education session and we said

one-on-one education session and we said here are the reasons why this is

here are the reasons why this is

here are the reasons why this is important we want you to wash for this

important we want you to wash for this

important we want you to wash for this duration of time at this period leave

duration of time at this period leave

duration of time at this period leave the soap on this long

the soap on this long

the soap on this long rinse at this time so we could reduce

rinse at this time so we could reduce

rinse at this time so we could reduce the opportunity for infection but we

the opportunity for infection but we

the opportunity for infection but we went a step further there as well we

went a step further there as well we

went a step further there as well we told them why we said hey listen we have

told them why we said hey listen we have

told them why we said hey listen we have created this team to reduce infection

created this team to reduce infection

created this team to reduce infection and you are part of the team because

and you are part of the team because

and you are part of the team because without your participation you could

without your participation you could

without your participation you could introduce infection into this process

introduce infection into this process

introduce infection into this process and you don’t want to become infected

and you don’t want to become infected

and you don’t want to become infected right and so with this teamwork right

right and so with this teamwork right

right and so with this teamwork right this way of working we’ve successfully

this way of working we’ve successfully

this way of working we’ve successfully reduced the infection rates in our

reduced the infection rates in our

reduced the infection rates in our operating rooms to three tenths of one

operating rooms to three tenths of one

operating rooms to three tenths of one percent right versus the industry

percent right versus the industry

percent right versus the industry average of one and a half percent so

average of one and a half percent so

average of one and a half percent so five times less likely to become

five times less likely to become

five times less likely to become infected in our operating rooms now

infected in our operating rooms now

infected in our operating rooms now we’re not at zero so we’ve got a lot of

we’re not at zero so we’ve got a lot of

we’re not at zero so we’ve got a lot of work yet to do but I can tell you this

work yet to do but I can tell you this

work yet to do but I can tell you this if we hadn’t set our target at zero we

if we hadn’t set our target at zero we

if we hadn’t set our target at zero we wouldn’t be where we are today right

wouldn’t be where we are today right

wouldn’t be where we are today right next let’s pick on price so we’re we

next let’s pick on price so we’re we

next let’s pick on price so we’re we have a price another industry that I can

have a price another industry that I can

have a price another industry that I can assure you is one of the only industries

assure you is one of the only industries

assure you is one of the only industries where you can have a service

where you can have a service

where you can have a service administered to you and you have no idea

administered to you and you have no idea

administered to you and you have no idea what the prices none and I’ll tell you

what the prices none and I’ll tell you

what the prices none and I’ll tell you this not only do not know what upfront

this not only do not know what upfront

this not only do not know what upfront what the price is going to be you don’t

what the price is going to be you don’t

what the price is going to be you don’t know for five weeks after the service

know for five weeks after the service

know for five weeks after the service right because you’re getting bills in

right because you’re getting bills in

right because you’re getting bills in the mail I can tell you what we used to

the mail I can tell you what we used to

the mail I can tell you what we used to do we’d send you a bill from the surgeon

do we’d send you a bill from the surgeon

do we’d send you a bill from the surgeon the facility the anesthesiologist

the facility the anesthesiologist

the facility the anesthesiologist physical therapy and the overnight stay

physical therapy and the overnight stay

physical therapy and the overnight stay you didn’t know what to pay what not to

you didn’t know what to pay what not to

you didn’t know what to pay what not to pay we thought we could do better so we

pay we thought we could do better so we

pay we thought we could do better so we took our cost accounting team and our

took our cost accounting team and our

took our cost accounting team and our business administration team and we

business administration team and we

business administration team and we looked at these procedures alongside of

looked at these procedures alongside of

looked at these procedures alongside of our medical staff and we said we can

our medical staff and we said we can

our medical staff and we said we can predict what the cost of these

predict what the cost of these

predict what the cost of these procedures should be the time in the o.r

procedures should be the time in the o.r

procedures should be the time in the o.r who’s in the or how it should work and

who’s in the or how it should work and

who’s in the or how it should work and we have our quality kind of figured out

we have our quality kind of figured out

we have our quality kind of figured out we know what that’s going to be so we

we know what that’s going to be so we

we know what that’s going to be so we should be able to give you a price one

should be able to give you a price one

should be able to give you a price one price and one bill in the mail we

price and one bill in the mail we

price and one bill in the mail we thought that was pretty good but then we

thought that was pretty good but then we

thought that was pretty good but then we thought even better still what if I

thought even better still what if I

thought even better still what if I could tell you prospectively

could tell you prospectively

could tell you prospectively what that price was going to be what if

what that price was going to be what if

what that price was going to be what if I told you well in advance what the cost

I told you well in advance what the cost

I told you well in advance what the cost was going to be so you could shop it our

was going to be so you could shop it our

was going to be so you could shop it our patients love this idea because now they

patients love this idea because now they

patients love this idea because now they knew financially how to prepare for this

knew financially how to prepare for this

knew financially how to prepare for this big expense okay and so I actually did

big expense okay and so I actually did

big expense okay and so I actually did two things they reduced their it gave

two things they reduced their it gave

two things they reduced their it gave them knowledge but also reduced their

them knowledge but also reduced their

them knowledge but also reduced their anxiety right so there were less anxious

anxiety right so there were less anxious

anxiety right so there were less anxious going into this procedure knowing that

going into this procedure knowing that

going into this procedure knowing that we had thought about this

we had thought about this

we had thought about this so those first two things I think are

so those first two things I think are

so those first two things I think are pretty impactful in terms of business

pretty impactful in terms of business

pretty impactful in terms of business application to healthcare the last one

application to healthcare the last one

application to healthcare the last one I’ll tell you I am most proud of

I’ll tell you I am most proud of

I’ll tell you I am most proud of absolutely most proud of because it is

absolutely most proud of because it is

absolutely most proud of because it is the reason why people come back so our

the reason why people come back so our

the reason why people come back so our patients have told us in survey after

patients have told us in survey after

patients have told us in survey after survey and after we have a chance to

survey and after we have a chance to

survey and after we have a chance to interview them we love the things that

interview them we love the things that

interview them we love the things that you’ve done with cost we really

you’ve done with cost we really

you’ve done with cost we really appreciate the quality but the reason I

appreciate the quality but the reason I

appreciate the quality but the reason I would tell my friends and family to come

would tell my friends and family to come

would tell my friends and family to come and see you the reason that I myself as

and see you the reason that I myself as

and see you the reason that I myself as a patient would come back was because of

a patient would come back was because of

a patient would come back was because of the way you made me feel that you

the way you made me feel that you

the way you made me feel that you actually care that your doctors took the

actually care that your doctors took the

actually care that your doctors took the time to listen to me and really

time to listen to me and really

time to listen to me and really understood where I was and where I

understood where I was and where I

understood where I was and where I wanted to be postoperatively and your

wanted to be postoperatively and your

wanted to be postoperatively and your staff your staff genuinely authentically

staff your staff genuinely authentically

staff your staff genuinely authentically wants to do the right thing and it

wants to do the right thing and it

wants to do the right thing and it appears like they like their work like

appears like they like their work like

appears like they like their work like they really like to be at work is that

they really like to be at work is that

they really like to be at work is that true of all health care people different

true of all health care people different

true of all health care people different right but here’s what happened when we

right but here’s what happened when we

right but here’s what happened when we challenged these people right to very

challenged these people right to very

challenged these people right to very extraordinary goals and they achieved

extraordinary goals and they achieved

extraordinary goals and they achieved those goals it energized them it engaged

those goals it energized them it engaged

those goals it energized them it engaged them in a way that I couldn’t have

them in a way that I couldn’t have

them in a way that I couldn’t have predicted and that translated into a

predicted and that translated into a

predicted and that translated into a patient experience that is absolutely

patient experience that is absolutely

patient experience that is absolutely off the charts fantastic and I’m most

off the charts fantastic and I’m most

off the charts fantastic and I’m most proud of that for sure so these are the

proud of that for sure so these are the

proud of that for sure so these are the things that we can do now how can we

things that we can do now how can we

things that we can do now how can we translate what we’ve done in a microcosm

translate what we’ve done in a microcosm

translate what we’ve done in a microcosm here into something on a national scale

here into something on a national scale

here into something on a national scale how does this reduce the cost of health

how does this reduce the cost of health

how does this reduce the cost of health care overall well you and I again have

care overall well you and I again have

care overall well you and I again have got to become consumers of health care

got to become consumers of health care

got to become consumers of health care we’ve got to start asking in advance

we’ve got to start asking in advance

we’ve got to start asking in advance what’s the price of this procedure and

what’s the price of this procedure and

what’s the price of this procedure and with increasing intensity you’ll start

with increasing intensity you’ll start

with increasing intensity you’ll start to get a response you’ve got to ask

to get a response you’ve got to ask

to get a response you’ve got to ask things about quality what’s going on

things about quality what’s going on

things about quality what’s going on with your infection rate your

with your infection rate your

with your infection rate your readmission rate you see you have to act

readmission rate you see you have to act

readmission rate you see you have to act like GE and juniper that were driving

like GE and juniper that were driving

like GE and juniper that were driving our costs down and our quality up

our costs down and our quality up

our costs down and our quality up there’s got to be a lever and we are it

there’s got to be a lever and we are it

there’s got to be a lever and we are it right finally as providers we can do

right finally as providers we can do

right finally as providers we can do more – we can continually improve our

more – we can continually improve our

more – we can continually improve our processes on our own to increase

processes on our own to increase

processes on our own to increase affordability and accessibility and we

affordability and accessibility and we

affordability and accessibility and we need to do that we need to press on that

need to do that we need to press on that

need to do that we need to press on that experience and I can tell you this if we

experience and I can tell you this if we

experience and I can tell you this if we continue to thrive on our infection

continue to thrive on our infection

continue to thrive on our infection rates to drive that number to zero and

rates to drive that number to zero and

rates to drive that number to zero and no transparency today I don’t know what

no transparency today I don’t know what

no transparency today I don’t know what my competitors rates are if I hit zero I

my competitors rates are if I hit zero I

my competitors rates are if I hit zero I know they’re not lower than me

know they’re not lower than me

know they’re not lower than me right

right

right so let’s strive for perfection let’s see

so let’s strive for perfection let’s see

so let’s strive for perfection let’s see if we can hit and what the results might

if we can hit and what the results might

if we can hit and what the results might be if we were to hit it because I would

be if we were to hit it because I would

be if we were to hit it because I would contend to you this if you’re striving

contend to you this if you’re striving

contend to you this if you’re striving for perfection the competition becomes

for perfection the competition becomes

for perfection the competition becomes inconsequential and we can absolutely

inconsequential and we can absolutely

inconsequential and we can absolutely have a positive impact and not only the

have a positive impact and not only the

have a positive impact and not only the cost but the experience and the quality

cost but the experience and the quality

cost but the experience and the quality in health care thank you

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