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thank you for having me it’s hard to

thank you for having me it’s hard to follow an accolade bocklage or because

follow an accolade bocklage or because

follow an accolade bocklage or because every time I’ve achieved a zet state of

every time I’ve achieved a zet state of

every time I’ve achieved a zet state of giving you talk my heart rate goes up

giving you talk my heart rate goes up

giving you talk my heart rate goes up with the drums and so right now it’s

with the drums and so right now it’s

with the drums and so right now it’s like it’s hitting with the treatment of

like it’s hitting with the treatment of

like it’s hitting with the treatment of drops okay so excuse me if I just take a

drops okay so excuse me if I just take a

drops okay so excuse me if I just take a moment to relax so most people know me

moment to relax so most people know me

moment to relax so most people know me and say clinical psychologist a

and say clinical psychologist a

and say clinical psychologist a researcher a lecturer I know myself

researcher a lecturer I know myself

researcher a lecturer I know myself that’s really cool it’s funny person you

that’s really cool it’s funny person you

that’s really cool it’s funny person you may not but few people know my personal

may not but few people know my personal

may not but few people know my personal struggle with depression

struggle with depression

struggle with depression it’s actually really hard to convey what

it’s actually really hard to convey what

it’s actually really hard to convey what it felt like the feelings of sadness the

it felt like the feelings of sadness the

it felt like the feelings of sadness the thoughts of condemnation the sense of

thoughts of condemnation the sense of

thoughts of condemnation the sense of urgency to end it all as soon as

urgency to end it all as soon as

urgency to end it all as soon as possible

possible

possible depression one of the most common mental

depression one of the most common mental

depression one of the most common mental illnesses I’m trained to diagnose at the

illnesses I’m trained to diagnose at the

illnesses I’m trained to diagnose at the low move lots of pleasure insomnia

low move lots of pleasure insomnia

low move lots of pleasure insomnia fatigue low self-worth and even the

fatigue low self-worth and even the

fatigue low self-worth and even the suicidal ideation but it’s hard to

suicidal ideation but it’s hard to

suicidal ideation but it’s hard to recognize the signs when you find

recognize the signs when you find

recognize the signs when you find yourself and its grip it happens so

yourself and its grip it happens so

yourself and its grip it happens so slowly and sedulously I activated it to

slowly and sedulously I activated it to

slowly and sedulously I activated it to everything but depression the stress

everything but depression the stress

everything but depression the stress workload you know transition from Canada

workload you know transition from Canada

workload you know transition from Canada to Malaysia my family would ask me are

to Malaysia my family would ask me are

to Malaysia my family would ask me are you okay I said of course I’m okay why

you okay I said of course I’m okay why

you okay I said of course I’m okay why wouldn’t I be life is good I’ve got a

wouldn’t I be life is good I’ve got a

wouldn’t I be life is good I’ve got a job I got friends and show that I’m

job I got friends and show that I’m

job I got friends and show that I’m stressed

stressed

stressed but everyone is also stressed right so

but everyone is also stressed right so

but everyone is also stressed right so there was nothing wrong but something

there was nothing wrong but something

there was nothing wrong but something wasn’t right I wasn’t happy but I should

wasn’t right I wasn’t happy but I should

wasn’t right I wasn’t happy but I should be happy right made me

be happy right made me

be happy right made me I was just ungrateful maybe I was

I was just ungrateful maybe I was

I was just ungrateful maybe I was expecting too much I started feeling bad

expecting too much I started feeling bad

expecting too much I started feeling bad for feeling bad eventually it dawned

for feeling bad eventually it dawned

for feeling bad eventually it dawned upon me that made me under pressed so I

upon me that made me under pressed so I

upon me that made me under pressed so I took several self-report measure I added

took several self-report measure I added

took several self-report measure I added a report of my symptoms and downplayed

a report of my symptoms and downplayed

a report of my symptoms and downplayed everything but I had to face the fact

everything but I had to face the fact

everything but I had to face the fact that I was it took me six months to

that I was it took me six months to

that I was it took me six months to recover from my depression and in

recover from my depression and in

recover from my depression and in several years to work through the

several years to work through the

several years to work through the consequences of it undiscovered the

consequences of it undiscovered the

consequences of it undiscovered the recovery it’s a lonely road is this

recovery it’s a lonely road is this

recovery it’s a lonely road is this doing more have happened but rejoicing

doing more have happened but rejoicing

doing more have happened but rejoicing that the ghosts have fallen silent is

that the ghosts have fallen silent is

that the ghosts have fallen silent is premature because actually walked back

premature because actually walked back

premature because actually walked back to the life you once had you see the

to the life you once had you see the

to the life you once had you see the destructive effects of the illness even

destructive effects of the illness even

destructive effects of the illness even broken relationships the ill health

broken relationships the ill health

broken relationships the ill health contrary to my profession as a clinical

contrary to my profession as a clinical

contrary to my profession as a clinical psychologist my belief in the importance

psychologist my belief in the importance

psychologist my belief in the importance of mental well-being and treatment I did

of mental well-being and treatment I did

of mental well-being and treatment I did not seek professional help

not seek professional help

not seek professional help to be honest I was afraid afraid of it

to be honest I was afraid afraid of it

to be honest I was afraid afraid of it being official afraid of what people

being official afraid of what people

being official afraid of what people would say afraid of with how society

would say afraid of with how society

would say afraid of with how society would treat me I decided that today I

would treat me I decided that today I

would treat me I decided that today I don’t want to be afraid anymore so will

don’t want to be afraid anymore so will

don’t want to be afraid anymore so will not be a favorable one because

not be a favorable one because

not be a favorable one because depression is only part of a story it

depression is only part of a story it

depression is only part of a story it does not define me it is also part of

does not define me it is also part of

does not define me it is also part of the untold story of millions of

the untold story of millions of

the untold story of millions of Malaysians in 2015 the national health

Malaysians in 2015 the national health

Malaysians in 2015 the national health and mobility serving found that 30

and mobility serving found that 30

and mobility serving found that 30 percent of Malaysia’s have a mental

percent of Malaysia’s have a mental

percent of Malaysia’s have a mental health condition at any one point in

health condition at any one point in

health condition at any one point in time that’s 90 million or 1 in 3

time that’s 90 million or 1 in 3

time that’s 90 million or 1 in 3 Malaysians have poor mental well-being

Malaysians have poor mental well-being

Malaysians have poor mental well-being at this very moment the fifth edition of

at this very moment the fifth edition of

at this very moment the fifth edition of the diagnostic Statistical mental which

the diagnostic Statistical mental which

the diagnostic Statistical mental which you see clinical Manual of Mental

you see clinical Manual of Mental

you see clinical Manual of Mental Disorders defines mental

Disorders defines mental

Disorders defines mental as a behavioral or psychological

as a behavioral or psychological

as a behavioral or psychological syndrome of pattern that occurs in an

syndrome of pattern that occurs in an

syndrome of pattern that occurs in an individual that reflects an underlying

individual that reflects an underlying

individual that reflects an underlying psychobiological dysfunction the

psychobiological dysfunction the

psychobiological dysfunction the consequences of which are clinically

consequences of which are clinically

consequences of which are clinically significant distress for example painful

significant distress for example painful

significant distress for example painful symptom or disability that is impairment

symptom or disability that is impairment

symptom or disability that is impairment in one or more important areas of

in one or more important areas of

in one or more important areas of functioning mental illness in short is a

functioning mental illness in short is a

functioning mental illness in short is a group of behavioral or psychological

group of behavioral or psychological

group of behavioral or psychological science that indicate you as something

science that indicate you as something

science that indicate you as something it’s not quite right psychologically and

it’s not quite right psychologically and

it’s not quite right psychologically and biologically the consequences of which

biologically the consequences of which

biologically the consequences of which is we cannot thrive or cheat well-being

is we cannot thrive or cheat well-being

is we cannot thrive or cheat well-being and the most common mental illness is

and the most common mental illness is

and the most common mental illness is depression which we will be the primary

depression which we will be the primary

depression which we will be the primary focus of my talk today although much of

focus of my talk today although much of

focus of my talk today although much of what I say can be applied to many of the

what I say can be applied to many of the

what I say can be applied to many of the other mental illnesses so depression a

other mental illnesses so depression a

other mental illnesses so depression a mental illness is characterized by low

mental illness is characterized by low

mental illness is characterized by low mood and/or loss of pleasure or interest

mood and/or loss of pleasure or interest

mood and/or loss of pleasure or interest most of the day nearly every day for two

most of the day nearly every day for two

most of the day nearly every day for two weeks or more it interferes

weeks or more it interferes

weeks or more it interferes significantly when you’re functioning in

significantly when you’re functioning in

significantly when you’re functioning in life one in ten Malaysians are depressed

life one in ten Malaysians are depressed

life one in ten Malaysians are depressed that’s 3 million on average it takes

that’s 3 million on average it takes

that’s 3 million on average it takes someone with depression for years to

someone with depression for years to

someone with depression for years to seek help if they ever do assuming

seek help if they ever do assuming

seek help if they ever do assuming office available to them unfortunately

office available to them unfortunately

office available to them unfortunately for many Malaysians

for many Malaysians

for many Malaysians there is no help available to them we

there is no help available to them we

there is no help available to them we have 300 psychiatrists in Malaysia to

meet the minimal World Health

meet the minimal World Health Organization recommendations for a

Organization recommendations for a

Organization recommendations for a population of this size we would need

population of this size we would need

population of this size we would need 3,000 psychiatrist we have even fewer

3,000 psychiatrist we have even fewer

3,000 psychiatrist we have even fewer clinical psychologists approximately

clinical psychologists approximately

clinical psychologists approximately I am a rare breed

I am a rare breed

I am a rare breed welcome no I’m just kidding we have

welcome no I’m just kidding we have

welcome no I’m just kidding we have about a hundred fifty clinical

about a hundred fifty clinical

about a hundred fifty clinical psychologists three hundred psychiatrist

psychologists three hundred psychiatrist

psychologists three hundred psychiatrist three million Asians with depression

three million Asians with depression

three million Asians with depression that works out to be one psychiatrist

that works out to be one psychiatrist

that works out to be one psychiatrist pratense

pratense

pratense thousand Malaysians with depression and

thousand Malaysians with depression and

thousand Malaysians with depression and one clinical psychologist for 20,000

one clinical psychologist for 20,000

one clinical psychologist for 20,000 Malaysians with depression maybe be

Malaysians with depression maybe be

Malaysians with depression maybe be urging me to increase our resources is

urging me to increase our resources is

urging me to increase our resources is not apparent until we consider the cost

not apparent until we consider the cost

not apparent until we consider the cost of the elders so a cost of any illness

of the elders so a cost of any illness

of the elders so a cost of any illness can be computed in terms of years the

can be computed in terms of years the

can be computed in terms of years the number of years healthy life years we

number of years healthy life years we

number of years healthy life years we lose to an illness the number of years

lose to an illness the number of years

lose to an illness the number of years he spent living with a disability the

he spent living with a disability the

he spent living with a disability the number of years lost due to a shortened

number of years lost due to a shortened

number of years lost due to a shortened lifespan the Ministry of Health

lifespan the Ministry of Health

lifespan the Ministry of Health estimates that we lose more than 100,000

estimates that we lose more than 100,000

estimates that we lose more than 100,000 healthy life years every year to

healthy life years every year to

healthy life years every year to depression let’s think about it this way

depression let’s think about it this way

depression let’s think about it this way imagine a typical day you get up go to

imagine a typical day you get up go to

imagine a typical day you get up go to work put in your 95 have dinner with a

work put in your 95 have dinner with a

work put in your 95 have dinner with a loved one that’s time spent in your job

loved one that’s time spent in your job

loved one that’s time spent in your job and time spent with the people you care

and time spent with the people you care

and time spent with the people you care about

about

about now imagine a day with depression you

now imagine a day with depression you

now imagine a day with depression you struggle to get out of bed maybe you

struggle to get out of bed maybe you

struggle to get out of bed maybe you make it to work at any difficulty

make it to work at any difficulty

make it to work at any difficulty concentrating you’re tired you can’t

concentrating you’re tired you can’t

concentrating you’re tired you can’t wait till it’s 5:00 p.m. you touch back

wait till it’s 5:00 p.m. you touch back

wait till it’s 5:00 p.m. you touch back home go right back into that you isolate

home go right back into that you isolate

home go right back into that you isolate yourself from important relationships in

yourself from important relationships in

yourself from important relationships in life cause it’s time lost to an illness

life cause it’s time lost to an illness

life cause it’s time lost to an illness to do the financial costs to it

to do the financial costs to it

to do the financial costs to it depression cost milena 1.9 billion

depression cost milena 1.9 billion

depression cost milena 1.9 billion ringgit every year and much of that does

ringgit every year and much of that does

ringgit every year and much of that does not actually go towards treatment but

not actually go towards treatment but

not actually go towards treatment but it’s encourage you to loss of an

it’s encourage you to loss of an

it’s encourage you to loss of an employment

employment

employment lots of productivity even loss of life

lots of productivity even loss of life

lots of productivity even loss of life the cause of depression are many and

the cause of depression are many and

the cause of depression are many and complex biological and psychological

complex biological and psychological

complex biological and psychological and there is no one single cause of

and there is no one single cause of

and there is no one single cause of oppression but let me just highlight

oppression but let me just highlight

oppression but let me just highlight five common ones the first negative life

five common ones the first negative life

five common ones the first negative life stress for example losing a job or

stress for example losing a job or

stress for example losing a job or losing an important relationship second

losing an important relationship second

losing an important relationship second negative thinking styles such as

negative thinking styles such as

negative thinking styles such as believing that you are the cause of all

believing that you are the cause of all

believing that you are the cause of all bad things that have happened to you and

bad things that have happened to you and

bad things that have happened to you and nothing will ever change the third euro

nothing will ever change the third euro

nothing will ever change the third euro chemical imbalance such as serotonin and

chemical imbalance such as serotonin and

chemical imbalance such as serotonin and the fourth neural net we go

the fourth neural net we go

the fourth neural net we go abnormalities in key structures of the

abnormalities in key structures of the

abnormalities in key structures of the brain and finally genetics the

brain and finally genetics the

brain and finally genetics the heritability of depression is

heritability of depression is

heritability of depression is approximately 37% now the good news the

approximately 37% now the good news the

approximately 37% now the good news the good news is that we have many effective

good news is that we have many effective

good news is that we have many effective ways to help reduce the risk of

ways to help reduce the risk of

ways to help reduce the risk of depression and other illnesses we are

depression and other illnesses we are

depression and other illnesses we are also effective treatments that can help

also effective treatments that can help

also effective treatments that can help improve symptoms and help people live

improve symptoms and help people live

improve symptoms and help people live more meaningful and happier lives but

more meaningful and happier lives but

more meaningful and happier lives but here’s a first key problem we need more

here’s a first key problem we need more

here’s a first key problem we need more than two health resources in Malaysia we

than two health resources in Malaysia we

than two health resources in Malaysia we need more mental health professionals in

need more mental health professionals in

need more mental health professionals in Malaysia we need more accessible

Malaysia we need more accessible

Malaysia we need more accessible effective sorry from is life accessible

effective sorry from is life accessible

effective sorry from is life accessible effective and affordable intervention

effective and affordable intervention

effective and affordable intervention and prevention programs in Malaysia now

and prevention programs in Malaysia now

and prevention programs in Malaysia now even if we do increase the resources who

even if we do increase the resources who

even if we do increase the resources who you go who would go that’s the second

you go who would go that’s the second

you go who would go that’s the second problem

problem

problem mental illness is heavily stigmatized

mental illness is heavily stigmatized

mental illness is heavily stigmatized and stigma stops people from seeking

and stigma stops people from seeking

and stigma stops people from seeking help only about 50% of people with

help only about 50% of people with

help only about 50% of people with depression ever see call and even though

depression ever see call and even though

depression ever see call and even though it takes them an average of four years

it takes them an average of four years

it takes them an average of four years to do so in 1999 the first surgeon

to do so in 1999 the first surgeon

to do so in 1999 the first surgeon general’s report on mental health was

general’s report on mental health was

general’s report on mental health was released the Surgeon General identify

released the Surgeon General identify

released the Surgeon General identify stigma as being one of the major

stigma as being one of the major

stigma as being one of the major barriers that stop people from seeking

barriers that stop people from seeking

barriers that stop people from seeking home stigma is a Greek word

home stigma is a Greek word

home stigma is a Greek word reverser can it’s a to mark that was

reverser can it’s a to mark that was

reverser can it’s a to mark that was burned into the skins as criminals

burned into the skins as criminals

burned into the skins as criminals slaves traders to identify them as

slaves traders to identify them as

slaves traders to identify them as blemished a warning commuted individuals

blemished a warning commuted individuals

blemished a warning commuted individuals today instead of a physical mark we grab

today instead of a physical mark we grab

today instead of a physical mark we grab people with mental illnesses as weak

people with mental illnesses as weak

people with mental illnesses as weak dangerous the lack of understanding of

dangerous the lack of understanding of

dangerous the lack of understanding of what mental illness is and what causes

what mental illness is and what causes

what mental illness is and what causes it contributes is fear and so here is

it contributes is fear and so here is

it contributes is fear and so here is how signal works we perpetuate negative

how signal works we perpetuate negative

how signal works we perpetuate negative stereotypes of mental illness we treat

stereotypes of mental illness we treat

stereotypes of mental illness we treat people with mental illnesses accordingly

people with mental illnesses accordingly

people with mental illnesses accordingly as if they are weak dangerous or crazy

as if they are weak dangerous or crazy

as if they are weak dangerous or crazy consequently over time they begin to

consequently over time they begin to

consequently over time they begin to accept these labels as true and see

accept these labels as true and see

accept these labels as true and see themselves as such unfortunately many of

themselves as such unfortunately many of

themselves as such unfortunately many of these navels are lifelong and continue

these navels are lifelong and continue

these navels are lifelong and continue even after the person has recovered

even after the person has recovered

even after the person has recovered is it anyone monitor but my wife will

is it anyone monitor but my wife will

is it anyone monitor but my wife will don’t want to seek help because

don’t want to seek help because

don’t want to seek help because admitting to having an illness would be

admitting to having an illness would be

admitting to having an illness would be like admitting to being all of those

like admitting to being all of those

like admitting to being all of those negative associations changing this

negative associations changing this

negative associations changing this culture of change starts with changing

culture of change starts with changing

culture of change starts with changing the way you and I see mental health we

the way you and I see mental health we

the way you and I see mental health we need to invest in mental health the same

need to invest in mental health the same

need to invest in mental health the same way we invest in physical health we need

way we invest in physical health we need

way we invest in physical health we need to stop seeing mental illness as a

to stop seeing mental illness as a

to stop seeing mental illness as a weakness of failure we need to extend

weakness of failure we need to extend

weakness of failure we need to extend the same rights and considerations to

the same rights and considerations to

the same rights and considerations to people with mental illnesses as we do

people with mental illnesses as we do

people with mental illnesses as we do people with physical illnesses we need

people with physical illnesses we need

people with physical illnesses we need to come together to build a mentally

to come together to build a mentally

to come together to build a mentally healthy society one characterized by

healthy society one characterized by

healthy society one characterized by compassion acceptance and openness the

compassion acceptance and openness the

compassion acceptance and openness the research has shown that the most

research has shown that the most

research has shown that the most effective ways to reduce the stigma on

effective ways to reduce the stigma on

effective ways to reduce the stigma on mental illness

mental illness

mental illness to understand what mental illnesses and

to understand what mental illnesses and

to understand what mental illnesses and to know someone with an if experience so

to know someone with an if experience so

to know someone with an if experience so let me take my stand and this fight

let me take my stand and this fight

let me take my stand and this fight against the stigmatization of mental

against the stigmatization of mental

against the stigmatization of mental illness so Who am I

illness so Who am I

illness so Who am I my name is cha sickening and yes I’ve

my name is cha sickening and yes I’ve

my name is cha sickening and yes I’ve had depression maybe I will be depressed

had depression maybe I will be depressed

had depression maybe I will be depressed again the depression is only part of my

again the depression is only part of my

again the depression is only part of my story

story

story it does not define me I’m a clinical

it does not define me I’m a clinical

it does not define me I’m a clinical psychologist a lecturer and researcher

psychologist a lecturer and researcher

psychologist a lecturer and researcher I’m a Christian I’m the sister a

I’m a Christian I’m the sister a

I’m a Christian I’m the sister a daughter or friend I love baking to my

daughter or friend I love baking to my

daughter or friend I love baking to my shame I play the violin very badly I’m

shame I play the violin very badly I’m

shame I play the violin very badly I’m valuing kindness openness and courage so

valuing kindness openness and courage so

valuing kindness openness and courage so to the 30% of the majors currently

to the 30% of the majors currently

to the 30% of the majors currently living with a mental health condition

living with a mental health condition

living with a mental health condition don’t lose hope remember who you are at

don’t lose hope remember who you are at

don’t lose hope remember who you are at the very core of your being and please

the very core of your being and please

the very core of your being and please do get the help that you need and

do get the help that you need and

do get the help that you need and deserve and to the 70% of Malaysians

deserve and to the 70% of Malaysians

deserve and to the 70% of Malaysians with a loved one living with a mental

with a loved one living with a mental

with a loved one living with a mental health condition continue to love and

health condition continue to love and

health condition continue to love and support them and remember who they are

support them and remember who they are

support them and remember who they are at the very core to being beyond their

at the very core to being beyond their

at the very core to being beyond their mental illness let us treat one another

mental illness let us treat one another

mental illness let us treat one another with kindness and dignity without fear

with kindness and dignity without fear

with kindness and dignity without fear or discrimination for our mental health

or discrimination for our mental health

or discrimination for our mental health matters thank you

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