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Love, Sex, and Chairs | Madina Demirbash | TEDxAUBG


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good morning everyone it’s nice to meet

good morning everyone it’s nice to meet you this way whenever people meet me

you this way whenever people meet me

you this way whenever people meet me they usually ask me who are you

they usually ask me who are you

they usually ask me who are you and it’s I always have trouble answering

and it’s I always have trouble answering

and it’s I always have trouble answering because ethnical I Matata but I grew up

because ethnical I Matata but I grew up

because ethnical I Matata but I grew up in Kyrgyzstan speaking Russian to my

in Kyrgyzstan speaking Russian to my

in Kyrgyzstan speaking Russian to my friends and family and I lived and work

friends and family and I lived and work

friends and family and I lived and work in seven different countries now I’m

in seven different countries now I’m

in seven different countries now I’m married to a Turk and we speak a mixture

married to a Turk and we speak a mixture

married to a Turk and we speak a mixture of Russian English and Turkish to each

of Russian English and Turkish to each

of Russian English and Turkish to each other so and I always wondered why does

other so and I always wondered why does

other so and I always wondered why does my story have to be so complicated you

my story have to be so complicated you

my story have to be so complicated you know and for many years I was I was just

know and for many years I was I was just

know and for many years I was I was just I couldn’t I couldn’t understand up

I couldn’t I couldn’t understand up

I couldn’t I couldn’t understand up until I analyzed my favorite fairy tale

until I analyzed my favorite fairy tale

until I analyzed my favorite fairy tale and that is Thumbelina in Russian it’s

and that is Thumbelina in Russian it’s

and that is Thumbelina in Russian it’s called Duma vodka and it’s about a

called Duma vodka and it’s about a

called Duma vodka and it’s about a little girl which is the size of a thumb

little girl which is the size of a thumb

little girl which is the size of a thumb who was stolen by a frog and then she

who was stolen by a frog and then she

who was stolen by a frog and then she gets to travel doesn’t get to travel but

gets to travel doesn’t get to travel but

gets to travel doesn’t get to travel but she has to travel all over the places in

she has to travel all over the places in

she has to travel all over the places in order to run away from creatures which

order to run away from creatures which

order to run away from creatures which were trying to take her somehow or she

were trying to take her somehow or she

were trying to take her somehow or she was not finding love where she wanted

was not finding love where she wanted

was not finding love where she wanted and at the end of the day she meets the

and at the end of the day she meets the

and at the end of the day she meets the prince and they live happily ever after

prince and they live happily ever after

prince and they live happily ever after in my case for ten years I repeated the

in my case for ten years I repeated the

in my case for ten years I repeated the same story of Thumbelina except for I

same story of Thumbelina except for I

same story of Thumbelina except for I couldn’t find my prince I was searching

couldn’t find my prince I was searching

couldn’t find my prince I was searching it all over the places in all kinds of

it all over the places in all kinds of

it all over the places in all kinds of countries in all kinds of cities and I

countries in all kinds of cities and I

countries in all kinds of cities and I was so desperate I thought that’s what I

was so desperate I thought that’s what I

was so desperate I thought that’s what I should do isn’t that what women are

should do isn’t that what women are

should do isn’t that what women are supposed to do yeah talking about

supposed to do yeah talking about

supposed to do yeah talking about feminism her here that’s what we’ve been

feminism her here that’s what we’ve been

feminism her here that’s what we’ve been programmed to do with our fairy tales

programmed to do with our fairy tales

programmed to do with our fairy tales and most of them are teaching us that we

and most of them are teaching us that we

and most of them are teaching us that we should find some kind of a prince that

should find some kind of a prince that

should find some kind of a prince that was so Hall problem and I really

was so Hall problem and I really

was so Hall problem and I really believed in it I really believe that

believed in it I really believe that

believed in it I really believe that Eman if I’m unhappy right now then all I

Eman if I’m unhappy right now then all I

Eman if I’m unhappy right now then all I need to do is to find somebody who will

need to do is to find somebody who will

need to do is to find somebody who will love me and then I’ll be happily and

love me and then I’ll be happily and

love me and then I’ll be happily and will live happily ever after

will live happily ever after

will live happily ever after so what I did is I like I said I

so what I did is I like I said I

so what I did is I like I said I traveled in different

traveled in different

traveled in different places partially because of my curiosity

places partially because of my curiosity

places partially because of my curiosity and secondly because I was searching for

and secondly because I was searching for

and secondly because I was searching for love in different places but the result

love in different places but the result

love in different places but the result was always the same I was rejected and I

was always the same I was rejected and I

was always the same I was rejected and I was it was either rejection from the

was it was either rejection from the

was it was either rejection from the beginning people didn’t even want to

beginning people didn’t even want to

beginning people didn’t even want to enter into relationship with me or they

enter into relationship with me or they

enter into relationship with me or they would break up with me shortly very

would break up with me shortly very

would break up with me shortly very shortly after or I would go into

shortly after or I would go into

shortly after or I would go into relationship with people that I didn’t

relationship with people that I didn’t

relationship with people that I didn’t like and then I would it didn’t work

like and then I would it didn’t work

like and then I would it didn’t work either but on the top of all that I was

either but on the top of all that I was

either but on the top of all that I was fired during this 10 years I was fired

fired during this 10 years I was fired

fired during this 10 years I was fired from 80 percent of the places where I

from 80 percent of the places where I

from 80 percent of the places where I worked so yeah I had this double

worked so yeah I had this double

worked so yeah I had this double rejection and my personal record is

rejection and my personal record is

rejection and my personal record is summer of 2008 when I went to Cyprus for

summer of 2008 when I went to Cyprus for

summer of 2008 when I went to Cyprus for work but it was not I mean mostly I was

work but it was not I mean mostly I was

work but it was not I mean mostly I was not working because I was fired from

not working because I was fired from

not working because I was fired from five places in a row in just two months

five places in a row in just two months

five places in a row in just two months how cool was that and yeah and at the

how cool was that and yeah and at the

how cool was that and yeah and at the top of that I was recovering from a

top of that I was recovering from a

top of that I was recovering from a short relationship with a man who

short relationship with a man who

short relationship with a man who cheated on me and being it sure didn’t

cheated on me and being it sure didn’t

cheated on me and being it sure didn’t make it any easier every time I felt

make it any easier every time I felt

make it any easier every time I felt hurt and every time I was looking for

hurt and every time I was looking for

hurt and every time I was looking for the answer like what did I do wrong what

the answer like what did I do wrong what

the answer like what did I do wrong what is wrong about me you know the recent

is wrong about me you know the recent

is wrong about me you know the recent MRI research shows that when we feel

MRI research shows that when we feel

MRI research shows that when we feel rejected is the same areas of our brain

rejected is the same areas of our brain

rejected is the same areas of our brain get activated as the ones when we feel

get activated as the ones when we feel

get activated as the ones when we feel physical pain so our brain interprets

physical pain so our brain interprets

physical pain so our brain interprets rejection

rejection

rejection okay and no one producing supper and the

okay and no one producing supper and the

okay and no one producing supper and the one who leaves all this drugs alcohol

one who leaves all this drugs alcohol

one who leaves all this drugs alcohol and smoking and cigarettes and someone

and smoking and cigarettes and someone

and smoking and cigarettes and someone to get rid there’s a smoke right now to

to get rid there’s a smoke right now to

to get rid there’s a smoke right now to get rid of this hurting feeling and the

get rid of this hurting feeling and the

get rid of this hurting feeling and the more I got rejected the more I was

more I got rejected the more I was

more I got rejected the more I was afraid to receive it and the more I was

afraid to receive it and the more I was

afraid to receive it and the more I was receiving it because I had one problem

receiving it because I had one problem

receiving it because I had one problem the problem was that I was trying to

the problem was that I was trying to

the problem was that I was trying to find the Krenz right and I didn’t meet

find the Krenz right and I didn’t meet

find the Krenz right and I didn’t meet you and then I realized I don’t need a

you and then I realized I don’t need a

you and then I realized I don’t need a crib I need a chair yeah let me tell you

crib I need a chair yeah let me tell you

crib I need a chair yeah let me tell you what I mean you know this is a musical

what I mean you know this is a musical

what I mean you know this is a musical chair game that you played as children

chair game that you played as children

chair game that you played as children yeah so it’s basically the number of

yeah so it’s basically the number of

yeah so it’s basically the number of participants exceeds the number of

participants exceeds the number of

participants exceeds the number of chairs by one so if there are five

chairs by one so if there are five

chairs by one so if there are five people than there are four chairs and

people than there are four chairs and

people than there are four chairs and during the music they’re running around

during the music they’re running around

during the music they’re running around and then the music stops they have to

and then the music stops they have to

and then the music stops they have to sit down and the person without damage

sit down and the person without damage

sit down and the person without damage here then leaves the game so in

here then leaves the game so in

here then leaves the game so in classical gaming of relationships there

classical gaming of relationships there

classical gaming of relationships there are two people running around one chair

are two people running around one chair

are two people running around one chair June when the music is playing all right

June when the music is playing all right

June when the music is playing all right and when the music stops and that

and when the music stops and that

and when the music stops and that represents for me this romantic

represents for me this romantic

represents for me this romantic romanticism moment it which lasts around

romanticism moment it which lasts around

romanticism moment it which lasts around three months when we are so excited to

three months when we are so excited to

three months when we are so excited to see chat via so more when we’re so

see chat via so more when we’re so

see chat via so more when we’re so excited to to be with each other we

excited to to be with each other we

excited to to be with each other we don’t sleep at night we write points to

don’t sleep at night we write points to

don’t sleep at night we write points to each other or we tweet about it I don’t

each other or we tweet about it I don’t

each other or we tweet about it I don’t know what Facebook about it to talking

know what Facebook about it to talking

know what Facebook about it to talking modern terms and then there comes a time

modern terms and then there comes a time

modern terms and then there comes a time when the music stops and this is okay

when the music stops and this is okay

when the music stops and this is okay and then we sit down usually in three

and then we sit down usually in three

and then we sit down usually in three one of the three positions all of which

one of the three positions all of which

one of the three positions all of which are uncomfortable just check it out

are uncomfortable just check it out

are uncomfortable just check it out so it’s either we sit with half of our

so it’s either we sit with half of our

so it’s either we sit with half of our butts and we’re about to fall down right

butts and we’re about to fall down right

butts and we’re about to fall down right and that’s what I was doing as well by

and that’s what I was doing as well by

and that’s what I was doing as well by the way yeah I saw men with chairs and

the way yeah I saw men with chairs and

the way yeah I saw men with chairs and what I tried to do is to get their chair

what I tried to do is to get their chair

what I tried to do is to get their chair so after a while yeah

so after a while yeah

so after a while yeah we were so that’s the first thing first

we were so that’s the first thing first

we were so that’s the first thing first um that’s the first option if we’re

um that’s the first option if we’re

um that’s the first option if we’re sitting with half of our butts and then

sitting with half of our butts and then

sitting with half of our butts and then you know there is no space for love here

you know there is no space for love here

you know there is no space for love here a lot as you see there is no space for

a lot as you see there is no space for

a lot as you see there is no space for interacting and for a little listening

interacting and for a little listening

interacting and for a little listening to each other but it’s more about

to each other but it’s more about

to each other but it’s more about fighting who’s going to get the seed the

fighting who’s going to get the seed the

fighting who’s going to get the seed the second option if I’m sitting and the

second option if I’m sitting and the

second option if I’m sitting and the other person is standing or vice versa

other person is standing or vice versa

other person is standing or vice versa he’s sitting and I’m standing and that

he’s sitting and I’m standing and that

he’s sitting and I’m standing and that also doesn’t work for a long time it

also doesn’t work for a long time it

also doesn’t work for a long time it works in a short time and that’s why you

works in a short time and that’s why you

works in a short time and that’s why you know most of relationships they had

know most of relationships they had

know most of relationships they had people get separated before they even

people get separated before they even

people get separated before they even get married because of the chair issue

get married because of the chair issue

get married because of the chair issue and then the third option which many

and then the third option which many

and then the third option which many people find romantic when I do it at my

people find romantic when I do it at my

people find romantic when I do it at my trainings is that oh they say I can sit

trainings is that oh they say I can sit

trainings is that oh they say I can sit on his lap you know and yeah but for how

on his lap you know and yeah but for how

on his lap you know and yeah but for how long can he hold you on his laps

long can he hold you on his laps

long can he hold you on his laps yeah like it is romantic in the

yeah like it is romantic in the

yeah like it is romantic in the beginning like I said but after a while

beginning like I said but after a while

beginning like I said but after a while every person gets tired and then he will

every person gets tired and then he will

every person gets tired and then he will ask to sit on your laps

ask to sit on your laps

ask to sit on your laps do you agree you know and so this is how

do you agree you know and so this is how

do you agree you know and so this is how children are playing the game and

children are playing the game and

children are playing the game and unfortunately this is how we play even

unfortunately this is how we play even

unfortunately this is how we play even as being adults we think that we grow up

as being adults we think that we grow up

as being adults we think that we grow up but we don’t so the chair represents

but we don’t so the chair represents

but we don’t so the chair represents maturity maturity that’s why people are

maturity maturity that’s why people are

maturity maturity that’s why people are suffering in the relationship because

suffering in the relationship because

suffering in the relationship because they don’t bring yeah here’s my term

they don’t bring yeah here’s my term

they don’t bring yeah here’s my term that I recently invented it’s maturity

that I recently invented it’s maturity

that I recently invented it’s maturity if you have if you have maturity with

if you have if you have maturity with

if you have if you have maturity with you you’re much more likely to enjoy

you you’re much more likely to enjoy

you you’re much more likely to enjoy this relationship even though there are

this relationship even though there are

this relationship even though there are never guarantees right so but I mean I

never guarantees right so but I mean I

never guarantees right so but I mean I realize it I was so fascinated like yeah

realize it I was so fascinated like yeah

realize it I was so fascinated like yeah I got a bit mature and I started and

I got a bit mature and I started and

I got a bit mature and I started and finally finally for the first time I

finally finally for the first time I

finally finally for the first time I wasn’t fired from my works yeah and I

wasn’t fired from my works yeah and I

wasn’t fired from my works yeah and I was enjoying the work with and I was

was enjoying the work with and I was

was enjoying the work with and I was choosing the places that I want to work

choosing the places that I want to work

choosing the places that I want to work at I resolved my health issues I quit

at I resolved my health issues I quit

at I resolved my health issues I quit smoking it was very easy even though for

smoking it was very easy even though for

smoking it was very easy even though for five years I’ve been struggling with it

five years I’ve been struggling with it

five years I’ve been struggling with it because mature people don’t hurt

because mature people don’t hurt

because mature people don’t hurt themselves intentionally

themselves intentionally

themselves intentionally that’s some news for those of you still

that’s some news for those of you still

that’s some news for those of you still smoke and and then I also got to see

smoke and and then I also got to see

smoke and and then I also got to see that now I I have more friends and a

that now I I have more friends and a

that now I I have more friends and a much more outgoing and people want to

much more outgoing and people want to

much more outgoing and people want to have business with me and that was

have business with me and that was

have business with me and that was exciting and as a bonus I met my husband

exciting and as a bonus I met my husband

exciting and as a bonus I met my husband who also had a chair

it’s heavy yeah so you see here we are

it’s heavy yeah so you see here we are both of us to us right but we interact

both of us to us right but we interact

both of us to us right but we interact on a completely different level first we

on a completely different level first we

on a completely different level first we were friends because we didn’t need each

were friends because we didn’t need each

were friends because we didn’t need each other

other

other we were just interacting we were talking

we were just interacting we were talking

we were just interacting we were talking were laughing and then it naturally

were laughing and then it naturally

were laughing and then it naturally somehow got into romantic relationship

somehow got into romantic relationship

somehow got into romantic relationship and then we travel together and lived

and then we travel together and lived

and then we travel together and lived happily ever after right wrong that’s

happily ever after right wrong that’s

happily ever after right wrong that’s that’s what the fairytales are saying

that’s what the fairytales are saying

that’s what the fairytales are saying that all you have to do is just a matter

that all you have to do is just a matter

that all you have to do is just a matter of finding this right person if we

of finding this right person if we

of finding this right person if we chanced if you translate it to today’s

chanced if you translate it to today’s

chanced if you translate it to today’s speech you just have to you know

speech you just have to you know

speech you just have to you know construct your own chair find the person

construct your own chair find the person

construct your own chair find the person with the perfect chair and then you’ve

with the perfect chair and then you’ve

with the perfect chair and then you’ve got all of it going automatically and

got all of it going automatically and

got all of it going automatically and that’s what I also thought now that I

that’s what I also thought now that I

that’s what I also thought now that I have the coolest chair ever well for me

have the coolest chair ever well for me

have the coolest chair ever well for me it was back then I thought like you know

it was back then I thought like you know

it was back then I thought like you know I have such I’m such an amazing person

I have such I’m such an amazing person

I have such I’m such an amazing person with an amazing care so yeah now we have

with an amazing care so yeah now we have

with an amazing care so yeah now we have it all going but it was it after a while

it all going but it was it after a while

it all going but it was it after a while after several months I started to notice

after several months I started to notice

after several months I started to notice that I get irritated by my husband well

that I get irritated by my husband well

that I get irritated by my husband well back then he was my boyfriend then I get

back then he was my boyfriend then I get

back then he was my boyfriend then I get irritated by him more and more and more

irritated by him more and more and more

irritated by him more and more and more and I couldn’t help it and we were

and I couldn’t help it and we were

and I couldn’t help it and we were having fights even though we were

having fights even though we were

having fights even though we were sitting I mean imagine if we did if if

sitting I mean imagine if we did if if

sitting I mean imagine if we did if if we had just one chair how terrible it

we had just one chair how terrible it

we had just one chair how terrible it would be but even though we were sitting

would be but even though we were sitting

would be but even though we were sitting on our own chairs we couldn’t make it we

on our own chairs we couldn’t make it we

on our own chairs we couldn’t make it we I couldn’t make it personally so I had

I couldn’t make it personally so I had

I couldn’t make it personally so I had to leave I left relationship I’d moved

to leave I left relationship I’d moved

to leave I left relationship I’d moved out and I wanted to spend some time by

out and I wanted to spend some time by

out and I wanted to spend some time by myself to think what is wrong with this

myself to think what is wrong with this

myself to think what is wrong with this because it seems like it’s a perfect

because it seems like it’s a perfect

because it seems like it’s a perfect solution and what I found after

solution and what I found after

solution and what I found after attending courses and family counseling

attending courses and family counseling

attending courses and family counseling and attending and reading more books

and attending and reading more books

and attending and reading more books again and counseling the more doing more

again and counseling the more doing more

again and counseling the more doing more trainings I realized that my chair is

trainings I realized that my chair is

trainings I realized that my chair is underdeveloped that’s that’s how it

underdeveloped that’s that’s how it

underdeveloped that’s that’s how it works

works

works you don’t construct it once and then

you don’t construct it once and then

you don’t construct it once and then just leave it out only in relationship

just leave it out only in relationship

just leave it out only in relationship can you grow there is no

can you grow there is no

can you grow there is no others fear where you can grow as much

others fear where you can grow as much

others fear where you can grow as much as in relationship it teaches you so

as in relationship it teaches you so

as in relationship it teaches you so many things about you that you didn’t

many things about you that you didn’t

many things about you that you didn’t know and when I checked it when I make

know and when I checked it when I make

know and when I checked it when I make the reality check it turned out that my

the reality check it turned out that my

the reality check it turned out that my spiritual maturity was really really

spiritual maturity was really really

spiritual maturity was really really underdeveloped and what I mean by

underdeveloped and what I mean by

underdeveloped and what I mean by spiritual maturity is the ability to

spiritual maturity is the ability to

spiritual maturity is the ability to love person for what he is it’s the type

love person for what he is it’s the type

love person for what he is it’s the type of love that we receive from higher

of love that we receive from higher

of love that we receive from higher forces somebody calls it universe God

forces somebody calls it universe God

forces somebody calls it universe God Allah Buddha Jesus doesn’t matter is the

Allah Buddha Jesus doesn’t matter is the

Allah Buddha Jesus doesn’t matter is the hardest love ever to love somebody

hardest love ever to love somebody

hardest love ever to love somebody especially in marriage you know when you

especially in marriage you know when you

especially in marriage you know when you own when you know all the flaws all the

own when you know all the flaws all the

own when you know all the flaws all the terrible terrible habits that this

terrible terrible habits that this

terrible terrible habits that this person is doing you know and I’m not

person is doing you know and I’m not

person is doing you know and I’m not even talking about the socks all over

even talking about the socks all over

even talking about the socks all over the apartment I mean it’s just that it’s

the apartment I mean it’s just that it’s

the apartment I mean it’s just that it’s just the tip of the iceberg because when

just the tip of the iceberg because when

just the tip of the iceberg because when you really interact when you really

you really interact when you really

you really interact when you really connect you get to see the person’s

connect you get to see the person’s

connect you get to see the person’s so-called flaws and it’s it’s becoming a

so-called flaws and it’s it’s becoming a

so-called flaws and it’s it’s becoming a bigger and bigger and bigger challenge

bigger and bigger and bigger challenge

bigger and bigger and bigger challenge to really love and accept

to really love and accept

to really love and accept unconditionally the person for who he is

unconditionally the person for who he is

unconditionally the person for who he is and what I found I came up with an

and what I found I came up with an

and what I found I came up with an exercise that I can share with you and

exercise that I can share with you and

exercise that I can share with you and that worked for me

that worked for me

that worked for me so if you and the good thing about it is

so if you and the good thing about it is

so if you and the good thing about it is called the chair again the more you

called the chair again the more you

called the chair again the more you develop your chair the more you’re able

develop your chair the more you’re able

develop your chair the more you’re able to understand yourself and in that

to understand yourself and in that

to understand yourself and in that understand others so if you’re here in

understand others so if you’re here in

understand others so if you’re here in the in the hole good news you get it

the in the hole good news you get it

the in the hole good news you get it we’ve got it under you if you’re

we’ve got it under you if you’re

we’ve got it under you if you’re watching this event from face book life

watching this event from face book life

watching this event from face book life please take a sit right now the good

please take a sit right now the good

please take a sit right now the good thing you can always find a chair and

thing you can always find a chair and

thing you can always find a chair and for about twenty seconds please close

for about twenty seconds please close

for about twenty seconds please close your eyes and remember situation where

your eyes and remember situation where

your eyes and remember situation where you had an argument with someone or you

you had an argument with someone or you

you had an argument with someone or you were really angry doesn’t have to be big

were really angry doesn’t have to be big

were really angry doesn’t have to be big or small but think of a conflict that

or small but think of a conflict that

or small but think of a conflict that you had with someone remember what you

you had with someone remember what you

you had with someone remember what you said to this person what this person

said to this person what this person

said to this person what this person replied now get up please

replied now get up please

replied now get up please get up get up get up

thank you and sit down imagining that

thank you and sit down imagining that you are that person now you’re not you

you are that person now you’re not you

you are that person now you’re not you anymore but the person you had a fight

anymore but the person you had a fight

anymore but the person you had a fight with now close your eyes again and see

with now close your eyes again and see

with now close your eyes again and see the situation from this person’s eyes

how does this person feel why did he do

how does this person feel why did he do what he do

in my case yesterday I had a big fight

in my case yesterday I had a big fight with my son he’s one year old yeah you

with my son he’s one year old yeah you

with my son he’s one year old yeah you got all this fight and you’re trying to

got all this fight and you’re trying to

got all this fight and you’re trying to explain and you just you know that’s

explain and you just you know that’s

explain and you just you know that’s that the biggest the biggest place for

that the biggest the biggest place for

that the biggest the biggest place for me right now to grow because you try to

me right now to grow because you try to

me right now to grow because you try to explain and he’s like nah he just wants

explain and he’s like nah he just wants

explain and he’s like nah he just wants it all and so he was crying he was he

it all and so he was crying he was he

it all and so he was crying he was he didn’t get comfort by I was holding him

didn’t get comfort by I was holding him

didn’t get comfort by I was holding him I was playing with the and didn’t work

I was playing with the and didn’t work

I was playing with the and didn’t work he just was crying around and yelling so

he just was crying around and yelling so

he just was crying around and yelling so when I sit on his chair I see that he’s

when I sit on his chair I see that he’s

when I sit on his chair I see that he’s a bit scared I see that he feels

a bit scared I see that he feels

a bit scared I see that he feels insecure in a new place I see that he

insecure in a new place I see that he

insecure in a new place I see that he needs my comfort and I see that he loves

needs my comfort and I see that he loves

needs my comfort and I see that he loves me and that’s good enough for me to stop

me and that’s good enough for me to stop

me and that’s good enough for me to stop this argument with him and that’s how it

this argument with him and that’s how it

this argument with him and that’s how it works with relationship with other

works with relationship with other

works with relationship with other people the good thing you know they say

people the good thing you know they say

people the good thing you know they say like to the other person’s walk other in

like to the other person’s walk other in

like to the other person’s walk other in other person’s shoes I tried the shoes

other person’s shoes I tried the shoes

other person’s shoes I tried the shoes first they’re not always my size and

first they’re not always my size and

first they’re not always my size and sometimes they smell so I feel like a

sometimes they smell so I feel like a

sometimes they smell so I feel like a bit not disgusted but not very happy

bit not disgusted but not very happy

bit not disgusted but not very happy let’s say about it so then I found this

let’s say about it so then I found this

let’s say about it so then I found this chair and I realize I can use this chair

chair and I realize I can use this chair

chair and I realize I can use this chair anytime anywhere almost every place has

anytime anywhere almost every place has

anytime anywhere almost every place has a chair and even if I go to mountains or

a chair and even if I go to mountains or

a chair and even if I go to mountains or desert I take the folding chair with me

desert I take the folding chair with me

desert I take the folding chair with me just in case if I hate someone you know

just in case if I hate someone you know

just in case if I hate someone you know if this

if this

if this instrument is always available I can sit

instrument is always available I can sit

instrument is always available I can sit down

down

down even during our fight for example I said

even during our fight for example I said

even during our fight for example I said just wait a minute give me give me a

just wait a minute give me give me a

just wait a minute give me give me a second and I tried to shift the

second and I tried to shift the

second and I tried to shift the attention from me towards the other

attention from me towards the other

attention from me towards the other person and I can guess it wrong and it

person and I can guess it wrong and it

person and I can guess it wrong and it really doesn’t matter because as soon as

really doesn’t matter because as soon as

really doesn’t matter because as soon as I shift the attention and start to see I

I shift the attention and start to see I

I shift the attention and start to see I start to understand this person more

start to understand this person more

start to understand this person more please raise your hand if it helped you

please raise your hand if it helped you

please raise your hand if it helped you to understand the verse we had fight

to understand the verse we had fight

to understand the verse we had fight with wow it’s like most of the people

with wow it’s like most of the people

with wow it’s like most of the people look around yeah

look around yeah

look around yeah please raise your hand is it help you to

please raise your hand is it help you to

please raise your hand is it help you to like this person for the best hands you

like this person for the best hands you

like this person for the best hands you see you don’t need to apply effort to

see you don’t need to apply effort to

see you don’t need to apply effort to like people when you understand them

well and then the lighting turns into

well and then the lighting turns into love when you’re in marriage when you’re

love when you’re in marriage when you’re

love when you’re in marriage when you’re in relationship the same it works to say

in relationship the same it works to say

in relationship the same it works to say the other way I cannot hate anybody when

the other way I cannot hate anybody when

the other way I cannot hate anybody when I understand them and I cannot help but

I understand them and I cannot help but

I understand them and I cannot help but love someone when I fully understand

love someone when I fully understand

love someone when I fully understand what they’re doing is why they’re doing

what they’re doing is why they’re doing

what they’re doing is why they’re doing so I was excited about this exercise and

so I was excited about this exercise and

so I was excited about this exercise and it works for a while

it works for a while

it works for a while and then again we had all this kind of

and then again we had all this kind of

and then again we had all this kind of challenges then I decided to write a

challenges then I decided to write a

challenges then I decided to write a book which is got the art of immature

book which is got the art of immature

book which is got the art of immature love because I personally I was writing

love because I personally I was writing

love because I personally I was writing it for me and whatever you read in the

it for me and whatever you read in the

it for me and whatever you read in the book

book

book submitted it to the publisher and then

submitted it to the publisher and then

submitted it to the publisher and then oh yeah oh yeah this is how I should do

oh yeah oh yeah this is how I should do

oh yeah oh yeah this is how I should do it yeah

it yeah

it yeah instead of winder for myself of how to

instead of winder for myself of how to

instead of winder for myself of how to blow up and it turned out it could be

blow up and it turned out it could be

blow up and it turned out it could be helpful for other people as well so for

helpful for other people as well so for

helpful for other people as well so for me the growing up person the maturity

me the growing up person the maturity

me the growing up person the maturity maturity maturity is something exciting

maturity maturity is something exciting

maturity maturity is something exciting whenever I face a problem in a concept I

whenever I face a problem in a concept I

whenever I face a problem in a concept I perceive it in a different way I don’t

perceive it in a different way I don’t

perceive it in a different way I don’t see my husband as a problem anymore and

see my husband as a problem anymore and

see my husband as a problem anymore and not even his chair I’d start to

not even his chair I’d start to

not even his chair I’d start to understand which part of my chair is

understand which part of my chair is

understand which part of my chair is underdeveloped that I’m having

underdeveloped that I’m having

underdeveloped that I’m having difficulties and I have them and we

difficulties and I have them and we

difficulties and I have them and we fight every single day we have conflicts

fight every single day we have conflicts

fight every single day we have conflicts right now we used to fight now we have

right now we used to fight now we have

right now we used to fight now we have conflicts I’d rather call it this way so

conflicts I’d rather call it this way so

conflicts I’d rather call it this way so I believe this is possible imagine the

I believe this is possible imagine the

I believe this is possible imagine the world where every person would enter

world where every person would enter

world where every person would enter into relationship by being mature by

into relationship by being mature by

into relationship by being mature by being grown-up imagine where people

being grown-up imagine where people

being grown-up imagine where people could touch each other’s lives in the

could touch each other’s lives in the

could touch each other’s lives in the most connected way and where we could

most connected way and where we could

most connected way and where we could have sex in the most connected way and

have sex in the most connected way and

have sex in the most connected way and where children will grow up in loving

where children will grow up in loving

where children will grow up in loving families I believe this world is

families I believe this world is

families I believe this world is possible and I believe it is exciting to

possible and I believe it is exciting to

possible and I believe it is exciting to grow up before and during the

grow up before and during the

grow up before and during the relationship and I wish all of you to

relationship and I wish all of you to

relationship and I wish all of you to become cheer women and chairman of your

become cheer women and chairman of your

become cheer women and chairman of your lives thank you very much

lives thank you very much

lives thank you very much [Applause]

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