life is a messy business I think that much we can all agree on there are so
much we can all agree on there are so
much we can all agree on there are so many different experiences that we have
many different experiences that we have
many different experiences that we have every day so many things that people
every day so many things that people
every day so many things that people tell us so many news that we watch or
tell us so many news that we watch or
tell us so many news that we watch or maybe read on Facebook or on Twitter and
maybe read on Facebook or on Twitter and
maybe read on Facebook or on Twitter and I wonder if only there would be a way
I wonder if only there would be a way
I wonder if only there would be a way for civilization to come up with a
for civilization to come up with a
for civilization to come up with a system in which we could structure all
system in which we could structure all
system in which we could structure all of these experiences and make them part
of these experiences and make them part
of these experiences and make them part of our identity so I’m going to talk a
of our identity so I’m going to talk a
of our identity so I’m going to talk a little bit about storytelling today and
little bit about storytelling today and
little bit about storytelling today and particularly about one of the oldest
particularly about one of the oldest
particularly about one of the oldest forms of storytelling one of the oldest
forms of storytelling one of the oldest
forms of storytelling one of the oldest forms of public storytelling that we
forms of public storytelling that we
forms of public storytelling that we know which would be theater so I’m very
know which would be theater so I’m very
know which would be theater so I’m very lucky to have a day job that is called a
lucky to have a day job that is called a
lucky to have a day job that is called a professor for digital media in the
professor for digital media in the
professor for digital media in the School of Performing Arts else Bush in
School of Performing Arts else Bush in
School of Performing Arts else Bush in Berlin and I’d like to show you what my
Berlin and I’d like to show you what my
Berlin and I’d like to show you what my day-to-day job looks like this is my lab
day-to-day job looks like this is my lab
day-to-day job looks like this is my lab and as you can see there’s some students
and as you can see there’s some students
and as you can see there’s some students some acting students actually part of my
some acting students actually part of my
some acting students actually part of my lab and here are some more acting
lab and here are some more acting
lab and here are some more acting students who are part of my lab but
students who are part of my lab but
students who are part of my lab but where you can probably also see is that
where you can probably also see is that
where you can probably also see is that they’re not really acting out
they’re not really acting out
they’re not really acting out Shakespeare what they’re doing is they
Shakespeare what they’re doing is they
Shakespeare what they’re doing is they engage with technology and they’re
engage with technology and they’re
engage with technology and they’re trying to figure out how we can use all
trying to figure out how we can use all
trying to figure out how we can use all of this new digital technology to come
of this new digital technology to come
of this new digital technology to come up with new ways of performing things on
up with new ways of performing things on
up with new ways of performing things on stage and how we can tell stories that
stage and how we can tell stories that
stage and how we can tell stories that are relevant in this day and age so we
are relevant in this day and age so we
are relevant in this day and age so we build robots and see what we can do with
build robots and see what we can do with
build robots and see what we can do with them on stage sometimes we build our own
them on stage sometimes we build our own
them on stage sometimes we build our own smart devices and see how we can use
smart devices and see how we can use
smart devices and see how we can use them in new forms of storytelling maybe
them in new forms of storytelling maybe
them in new forms of storytelling maybe involving the audience and we even do
involving the audience and we even do
involving the audience and we even do some venturing into VR technology
some venturing into VR technology
some venturing into VR technology because apparently everybody’s doing
because apparently everybody’s doing
because apparently everybody’s doing that right now
that right now
that right now so why shouldn’t we do it too and
so why shouldn’t we do it too and
so why shouldn’t we do it too and sometimes when the weather is really
sometimes when the weather is really
sometimes when the weather is really nice which often times it’s not in
nice which often times it’s not in
nice which often times it’s not in Berlin we even try to turn our whole
Berlin we even try to turn our whole
Berlin we even try to turn our whole school into a stage that we can
school into a stage that we can
school into a stage that we can for me and then after we look at all of
for me and then after we look at all of
for me and then after we look at all of these technologies and we see how they
these technologies and we see how they
these technologies and we see how they work and how we can use them we try to
work and how we can use them we try to
work and how we can use them we try to transfer them into future pieces and I’d
transfer them into future pieces and I’d
transfer them into future pieces and I’d like to show you some examples of
like to show you some examples of
like to show you some examples of theater pieces that we were creating
theater pieces that we were creating
theater pieces that we were creating together with the students that used a
together with the students that used a
together with the students that used a lot of these new technologies so the
lot of these new technologies so the
lot of these new technologies so the first example you might know this story
first example you might know this story
first example you might know this story called Moby Dick
called Moby Dick
called Moby Dick it’s about being at sea and whale
it’s about being at sea and whale
it’s about being at sea and whale hunting in a man often times and we
hunting in a man often times and we
hunting in a man often times and we thought it would be interesting for
thought it would be interesting for
thought it would be interesting for young audiences to change the setting of
young audiences to change the setting of
young audiences to change the setting of this play and not have it play actually
this play and not have it play actually
this play and not have it play actually at sea and actually hunt whales because
at sea and actually hunt whales because
at sea and actually hunt whales because that’s not something that anybody should
that’s not something that anybody should
that’s not something that anybody should do nowadays but actually create a
do nowadays but actually create a
do nowadays but actually create a situation where for young people meet in
situation where for young people meet in
situation where for young people meet in a living room on a giant couch as you
a living room on a giant couch as you
a living room on a giant couch as you can see and they’re playing a video game
can see and they’re playing a video game
can see and they’re playing a video game and that video game is Moby Dick we’re
and that video game is Moby Dick we’re
and that video game is Moby Dick we’re showing this video game on stage and we
showing this video game on stage and we
showing this video game on stage and we use large-scale 3d projections using
use large-scale 3d projections using
use large-scale 3d projections using video game graphics and all of the
video game graphics and all of the
video game graphics and all of the characters that they’re playing are
characters that they’re playing are
characters that they’re playing are actually puppets that have been designed
actually puppets that have been designed
actually puppets that have been designed specifically to look a little bit like
specifically to look a little bit like
specifically to look a little bit like videogame characters in this other
videogame characters in this other
videogame characters in this other example we were working together with
example we were working together with
example we were working together with the Berlin concert hall and we were
the Berlin concert hall and we were
the Berlin concert hall and we were given the task to bring to life an opera
given the task to bring to life an opera
given the task to bring to life an opera by Shostakovich that had been lost
by Shostakovich that had been lost
by Shostakovich that had been lost during the Second World War and this was
during the Second World War and this was
during the Second World War and this was part of a short animated movie that he
part of a short animated movie that he
part of a short animated movie that he was collaborating with other people back
was collaborating with other people back
was collaborating with other people back in the Soviet Union and only a part of
in the Soviet Union and only a part of
in the Soviet Union and only a part of that movie was still available and so
that movie was still available and so
that movie was still available and so our task was to recreate the rest of the
our task was to recreate the rest of the
our task was to recreate the rest of the movie live on stage and so we used a
movie live on stage and so we used a
movie live on stage and so we used a whole bunch of digital technologies from
whole bunch of digital technologies from
whole bunch of digital technologies from cameras but also very traditional
cameras but also very traditional
cameras but also very traditional puppetry methods like giant cutouts or
puppetry methods like giant cutouts or
puppetry methods like giant cutouts or sock puppet sensors where we would have
sock puppet sensors where we would have
sock puppet sensors where we would have little digital sensors in socks and when
little digital sensors in socks and when
little digital sensors in socks and when you move the socks up and down you can
you move the socks up and down you can
you move the socks up and down you can actually synchronize the opera singers
actually synchronize the opera singers
actually synchronize the opera singers when they’re singing or sometimes we go
when they’re singing or sometimes we go
when they’re singing or sometimes we go a bit crazy and then together with the
a bit crazy and then together with the
a bit crazy and then together with the students we write our own new theater
students we write our own new theater
students we write our own new theater pieces this one for example he’s using
pieces this one for example he’s using
pieces this one for example he’s using the robot that we were building but we
the robot that we were building but we
the robot that we were building but we also have students playing their own
also have students playing their own
also have students playing their own versions of
versions of
versions of robots and androids and we’re combining
robots and androids and we’re combining
robots and androids and we’re combining different types of technology including
different types of technology including
different types of technology including VR technology to tell a story about a
VR technology to tell a story about a
VR technology to tell a story about a future Society and to see how people
future Society and to see how people
future Society and to see how people react to this vision of what we have in
react to this vision of what we have in
react to this vision of what we have in mind of how society might develop using
mind of how society might develop using
mind of how society might develop using a lot of these technologies so all of
a lot of these technologies so all of
a lot of these technologies so all of these are super fun experiments but when
these are super fun experiments but when
these are super fun experiments but when you work with technology a lot and you
you work with technology a lot and you
you work with technology a lot and you work with theater a lot at some point
work with theater a lot at some point
work with theater a lot at some point you come to ask yourself this very very
you come to ask yourself this very very
you come to ask yourself this very very important question like what are the
important question like what are the
important question like what are the stories that are actually worth telling
stories that are actually worth telling
stories that are actually worth telling and are we telling the right stories
and are we telling the right stories
and are we telling the right stories when we do theater because there’s lots
when we do theater because there’s lots
when we do theater because there’s lots of other things that people do in the
of other things that people do in the
of other things that people do in the evening there’s lots of other media that
evening there’s lots of other media that
evening there’s lots of other media that get a lot more funding for what they’re
get a lot more funding for what they’re
get a lot more funding for what they’re doing when we want to tell the story so
doing when we want to tell the story so
doing when we want to tell the story so you get to wonder about what is it that
you get to wonder about what is it that
you get to wonder about what is it that makes theater special and unique what is
makes theater special and unique what is
makes theater special and unique what is it that only we can do that other media
it that only we can do that other media
it that only we can do that other media can’t that the cinema can’t do that
can’t that the cinema can’t do that
can’t that the cinema can’t do that books can’t do and that video games
books can’t do and that video games
books can’t do and that video games maybe can’t do and then you start
maybe can’t do and then you start
maybe can’t do and then you start reading a couple of books about
reading a couple of books about
reading a couple of books about sociology and you find these very
sociology and you find these very
sociology and you find these very interesting things where they tell you
interesting things where they tell you
interesting things where they tell you that the way we socialize is actually
that the way we socialize is actually
that the way we socialize is actually through shared knowledge and through
through shared knowledge and through
through shared knowledge and through shared experiences and then you realize
shared experiences and then you realize
shared experiences and then you realize that at the very bottom of theater
that at the very bottom of theater
that at the very bottom of theater there’s this thing that we’re all
there’s this thing that we’re all
there’s this thing that we’re all together in the same room very much like
together in the same room very much like
together in the same room very much like we are right now and that we share in a
we are right now and that we share in a
we are right now and that we share in a common experience that we create
common experience that we create
common experience that we create together actually even though sometimes
together actually even though sometimes
together actually even though sometimes there’s only some people talking
there’s only some people talking
there’s only some people talking sometimes there’s more people talking
sometimes there’s more people talking
sometimes there’s more people talking but usually there should be to some
but usually there should be to some
but usually there should be to some people talking and a lot of people
people talking and a lot of people
people talking and a lot of people listening and then when you take a step
listening and then when you take a step
listening and then when you take a step back and you think about what theater
back and you think about what theater
back and you think about what theater actually really is then you notice that
actually really is then you notice that
actually really is then you notice that there’s a there’s a giant powerful thing
there’s a there’s a giant powerful thing
there’s a there’s a giant powerful thing somewhere in there and in order to
somewhere in there and in order to
somewhere in there and in order to illustrate that giant powerful thing I
illustrate that giant powerful thing I
illustrate that giant powerful thing I will sadly have to tell you a joke and
will sadly have to tell you a joke and
will sadly have to tell you a joke and the joke is not going to be funny for
the joke is not going to be funny for
the joke is not going to be funny for two reasons the first reason it’s a math
two reasons the first reason it’s a math
two reasons the first reason it’s a math joke and the second reason is because my
joke and the second reason is because my
joke and the second reason is because my cultural background does not allow me to
cultural background does not allow me to
cultural background does not allow me to be funny
so the joke goes a little bit like this
so the joke goes a little bit like this so how does a mathematician catch a lion
so how does a mathematician catch a lion
so how does a mathematician catch a lion in the desert the answer is actually
in the desert the answer is actually
in the desert the answer is actually quite simple she builds a cage and then
quite simple she builds a cage and then
quite simple she builds a cage and then she sits inside the cage and then she
she sits inside the cage and then she
she sits inside the cage and then she defines the inside of the cage as the
defines the inside of the cage as the
defines the inside of the cage as the outside not funny but the mathematician
outside not funny but the mathematician
outside not funny but the mathematician didn’t just catch one lion
didn’t just catch one lion
didn’t just catch one lion she caught all of the lions and she’s
she caught all of the lions and she’s
she caught all of the lions and she’s also very safe from the Lions because
also very safe from the Lions because
also very safe from the Lions because she built herself a little cage
she built herself a little cage
she built herself a little cage they keep she can sit inside and hang
they keep she can sit inside and hang
they keep she can sit inside and hang out and watch all of the lines all over
out and watch all of the lines all over
out and watch all of the lines all over the world be caught in whatever it is
the world be caught in whatever it is
the world be caught in whatever it is that she was defining and the reason I
that she was defining and the reason I
that she was defining and the reason I like this joke is not just because I’m
like this joke is not just because I’m
like this joke is not just because I’m German but it’s also because I feel like
German but it’s also because I feel like
German but it’s also because I feel like it encapsulates what theatre really is
it encapsulates what theatre really is
it encapsulates what theatre really is because in theatre we do very very
because in theatre we do very very
because in theatre we do very very similar things we usually build a space
similar things we usually build a space
similar things we usually build a space and then we go inside the space and then
and then we go inside the space and then
and then we go inside the space and then we pretend that what we do in this space
we pretend that what we do in this space
we pretend that what we do in this space somehow has something to do with the
somehow has something to do with the
somehow has something to do with the outside world but we also create this
outside world but we also create this
outside world but we also create this space as a safe space where we can do
space as a safe space where we can do
space as a safe space where we can do things that would be a little bit weird
things that would be a little bit weird
things that would be a little bit weird if we would do them in the outside world
if we would do them in the outside world
if we would do them in the outside world sometimes we’re way too loud we yell at
sometimes we’re way too loud we yell at
sometimes we’re way too loud we yell at each other we hit each other sometimes
each other we hit each other sometimes
each other we hit each other sometimes we do fencing sometimes there’s a horse
we do fencing sometimes there’s a horse
we do fencing sometimes there’s a horse on stage which is something that you
on stage which is something that you
on stage which is something that you don’t necessarily see every day so we
don’t necessarily see every day so we
don’t necessarily see every day so we can do all these things because we as a
can do all these things because we as a
can do all these things because we as a society have decided that this is a
society have decided that this is a
society have decided that this is a completely valid thing to do that we can
completely valid thing to do that we can
completely valid thing to do that we can create spaces and everybody agrees that
create spaces and everybody agrees that
create spaces and everybody agrees that whatever happens on this stage is fine
whatever happens on this stage is fine
whatever happens on this stage is fine and it’s somehow going to show us
and it’s somehow going to show us
and it’s somehow going to show us something about the outside world
something about the outside world
something about the outside world and I think we can use this this very
and I think we can use this this very
and I think we can use this this very essence of theater the fact that we have
essence of theater the fact that we have
essence of theater the fact that we have a space that everybody can do stuff in
a space that everybody can do stuff in
a space that everybody can do stuff in and it’s completely okay and we can
and it’s completely okay and we can
and it’s completely okay and we can combine it with the idea that all of us
combine it with the idea that all of us
combine it with the idea that all of us are actually really good actors in fact
are actually really good actors in fact
are actually really good actors in fact you’re also good actors that in order to
you’re also good actors that in order to
you’re also good actors that in order to teach our students how to do acting
teach our students how to do acting
teach our students how to do acting sometimes we tell them
sometimes we tell them
sometimes we tell them to just go sit in a bus and watch you
to just go sit in a bus and watch you
to just go sit in a bus and watch you perform or go to a bar and watch you
perform or go to a bar and watch you
perform or go to a bar and watch you perform
perform
perform so everybody is actually really good at
so everybody is actually really good at
so everybody is actually really good at performing certain things everybody
performing certain things everybody
performing certain things everybody knows what a police officer is supposed
knows what a police officer is supposed
knows what a police officer is supposed to do everybody knows what a fireman is
to do everybody knows what a fireman is
to do everybody knows what a fireman is some of us are very good at acting out
some of us are very good at acting out
some of us are very good at acting out to be dads or mothers or those are very
to be dads or mothers or those are very
to be dads or mothers or those are very good at being very good friends and so
good at being very good friends and so
good at being very good friends and so what actors really do is they combine a
what actors really do is they combine a
what actors really do is they combine a lot of these different traits and they
lot of these different traits and they
lot of these different traits and they put them into one big thing and then you
put them into one big thing and then you
put them into one big thing and then you learn how to be like these other people
learn how to be like these other people
learn how to be like these other people but it’s not that hard to create roles
but it’s not that hard to create roles
but it’s not that hard to create roles for people to inhabit and then to act
for people to inhabit and then to act
for people to inhabit and then to act out and then the other thing that’s
out and then the other thing that’s
out and then the other thing that’s actually really nice is that we’re not
actually really nice is that we’re not
actually really nice is that we’re not just social with each other we’re also
just social with each other we’re also
just social with each other we’re also social with our objects now we’re very
social with our objects now we’re very
social with our objects now we’re very social with our objects specifically
social with our objects specifically
social with our objects specifically when they don’t work who hasn’t talked
when they don’t work who hasn’t talked
when they don’t work who hasn’t talked to their car when it broke down or who’s
to their car when it broke down or who’s
to their car when it broke down or who’s not like actually really anxious when
not like actually really anxious when
not like actually really anxious when their cell phone battery’s at like 5% in
their cell phone battery’s at like 5% in
their cell phone battery’s at like 5% in they’re like no so objects have this way
they’re like no so objects have this way
they’re like no so objects have this way of making us social and they become
of making us social and they become
of making us social and they become actors by themselves and they give us
actors by themselves and they give us
actors by themselves and they give us the possibility to act towards these
the possibility to act towards these
the possibility to act towards these objects and the the objects act back and
objects and the the objects act back and
objects and the the objects act back and if you add other people then suddenly
if you add other people then suddenly
if you add other people then suddenly you notice that when you’re in a
you notice that when you’re in a
you notice that when you’re in a conversation and somebody else is coming
conversation and somebody else is coming
conversation and somebody else is coming in and that one person knows the other
in and that one person knows the other
in and that one person knows the other person really well and you don’t quite
person really well and you don’t quite
person really well and you don’t quite know them that well then you can just
know them that well then you can just
know them that well then you can just take out your cell phone you’re like no
take out your cell phone you’re like no
take out your cell phone you’re like no no it’s okay it’s completely fine you
no it’s okay it’s completely fine you
no it’s okay it’s completely fine you can just talk and I’ll just press random
can just talk and I’ll just press random
can just talk and I’ll just press random buttons and notice that I have apps
buttons and notice that I have apps
buttons and notice that I have apps installed that I didn’t even know I had
installed that I didn’t even know I had
installed that I didn’t even know I had installed so objects can do that they
installed so objects can do that they
installed so objects can do that they don’t necessarily have to be digital
don’t necessarily have to be digital
don’t necessarily have to be digital media objects but sometimes it helps
media objects but sometimes it helps
media objects but sometimes it helps because we’re very used to interacting
because we’re very used to interacting
because we’re very used to interacting with digital media objects so we were
with digital media objects so we were
with digital media objects so we were wondering together with students how
wondering together with students how
wondering together with students how could we use this knowledge and how
could we use this knowledge and how
could we use this knowledge and how could we create spaces in which it’s not
could we create spaces in which it’s not
could we create spaces in which it’s not up to us to tell you stories but in
up to us to tell you stories but in
up to us to tell you stories but in which all of us can participate and find
which all of us can participate and find
which all of us can participate and find new ways in which we might negotiate
new ways in which we might negotiate
new ways in which we might negotiate every day lives in which we might come
every day lives in which we might come
every day lives in which we might come up with new ways of figuring out how
up with new ways of figuring out how
up with new ways of figuring out how societies should work and we’ve tested
societies should work and we’ve tested
societies should work and we’ve tested this I’m going to talk a little bit
this I’m going to talk a little bit
this I’m going to talk a little bit about an example project that we’ve done
about an example project that we’ve done
about an example project that we’ve done for about 70 people that thought they
for about 70 people that thought they
for about 70 people that thought they would go to see a theater piece with
would go to see a theater piece with
would go to see a theater piece with robots
robots
robots now robots are great because people
now robots are great because people
now robots are great because people apparently really like robots and
apparently really like robots and
apparently really like robots and there’s reasons people go to see robots
there’s reasons people go to see robots
there’s reasons people go to see robots just because so we thought that’s a very
just because so we thought that’s a very
just because so we thought that’s a very very good idea to have robots in there
very good idea to have robots in there
very good idea to have robots in there people will come and then we can do
people will come and then we can do
people will come and then we can do stuff with them and the way this worked
stuff with them and the way this worked
stuff with them and the way this worked is that we split the audience into two
is that we split the audience into two
is that we split the audience into two groups and we told them that there are
groups and we told them that there are
groups and we told them that there are two societies and these two societies
two societies and these two societies
two societies and these two societies consist of workers and politicians and
consist of workers and politicians and
consist of workers and politicians and people that do culture and people that
people that do culture and people that
people that do culture and people that do press so just like any other society
do press so just like any other society
do press so just like any other society but in a space where people can act out
but in a space where people can act out
but in a space where people can act out different ways of how they want to be a
different ways of how they want to be a
different ways of how they want to be a worker and this is kind of what it
worker and this is kind of what it
worker and this is kind of what it looked like this was one group of
looked like this was one group of
looked like this was one group of workers and they were given like welding
workers and they were given like welding
workers and they were given like welding helmets welding aprons and we thought
helmets welding aprons and we thought
helmets welding aprons and we thought the best way of representing work would
the best way of representing work would
the best way of representing work would be for them to press little buttons and
be for them to press little buttons and
be for them to press little buttons and every time they press the button once
every time they press the button once
every time they press the button once they would generate gross domestic
they would generate gross domestic
they would generate gross domestic product or we just called it energy
product or we just called it energy
product or we just called it energy because nobody really knows what gross
because nobody really knows what gross
because nobody really knows what gross domestic product means nowadays and this
domestic product means nowadays and this
domestic product means nowadays and this is the other group of workers and so
is the other group of workers and so
is the other group of workers and so they’re happily working away and they’re
they’re happily working away and they’re
they’re happily working away and they’re generating this energy and the energy is
generating this energy and the energy is
generating this energy and the energy is used to move society which is
used to move society which is
used to move society which is represented by these wonderful robots on
represented by these wonderful robots on
represented by these wonderful robots on an imaginary landscape and move from
an imaginary landscape and move from
an imaginary landscape and move from country to country in societies always
country to country in societies always
country to country in societies always have to move forward because that’s how
have to move forward because that’s how
have to move forward because that’s how we Europeans think that things should
we Europeans think that things should
we Europeans think that things should work and the way that the workers were
work and the way that the workers were
work and the way that the workers were governed was by politicians and so
governed was by politicians and so
governed was by politicians and so politicians were in a separate space in
politicians were in a separate space in
politicians were in a separate space in a large tent and they had all of these
a large tent and they had all of these
a large tent and they had all of these amazing interfaces they had like
amazing interfaces they had like
amazing interfaces they had like television screens that were showing
television screens that were showing
television screens that were showing them the current number of energy that
them the current number of energy that
them the current number of energy that the country was having they were showing
the country was having they were showing
the country was having they were showing them the current amount of work that
them the current amount of work that
them the current amount of work that people were doing and they could decide
people were doing and they could decide
people were doing and they could decide how long people would have to work how
how long people would have to work how
how long people would have to work how long they would have three time how much
long they would have three time how much
long they would have three time how much energy they
energy they
energy they would use to move society forward how
would use to move society forward how
would use to move society forward how much under the energy they would use to
much under the energy they would use to
much under the energy they would use to do press conferences and tell the
do press conferences and tell the
do press conferences and tell the workers to keep on working and be
workers to keep on working and be
workers to keep on working and be motivated and then of course when the
motivated and then of course when the
motivated and then of course when the workers have free time they have to
workers have free time they have to
workers have free time they have to decide what they want to do with their
decide what they want to do with their
decide what they want to do with their time they want to be entertained so we
time they want to be entertained so we
time they want to be entertained so we had to have cultural workers and we gave
had to have cultural workers and we gave
had to have cultural workers and we gave them little funny costumes so they know
them little funny costumes so they know
them little funny costumes so they know that they can be funny and we gave them
that they can be funny and we gave them
that they can be funny and we gave them little Playmobil figurines and we even
little Playmobil figurines and we even
little Playmobil figurines and we even bought like a miniature football set and
bought like a miniature football set and
bought like a miniature football set and we told them that they can do everything
we told them that they can do everything
we told them that they can do everything that they wanted they can create theatre
that they wanted they can create theatre
that they wanted they can create theatre pieces they can create little soap
pieces they can create little soap
pieces they can create little soap operas they can create little commentary
operas they can create little commentary
operas they can create little commentary for football matches and the workers
for football matches and the workers
for football matches and the workers when they have free time they could go
when they have free time they could go
when they have free time they could go and hang out with the cultural people
and hang out with the cultural people
and hang out with the cultural people and see what the cultural people had
and see what the cultural people had
and see what the cultural people had produced for them or they could go to a
produced for them or they could go to a
produced for them or they could go to a bar and have a drink so we also had a
bar and have a drink so we also had a
bar and have a drink so we also had a bar and then finally that was the press
bar and then finally that was the press
bar and then finally that was the press and the press was moving around and
and the press was moving around and
and the press was moving around and talking to people doing interviews
talking to people doing interviews
talking to people doing interviews taking photographs and just making sure
taking photographs and just making sure
taking photographs and just making sure that they know whatever was going on and
that they know whatever was going on and
that they know whatever was going on and there were a bunch of very very
there were a bunch of very very
there were a bunch of very very interesting things that were happening
interesting things that were happening
interesting things that were happening during that one very specific evening
during that one very specific evening
during that one very specific evening and I’d like to share some anecdotes
and I’d like to share some anecdotes
and I’d like to share some anecdotes with you of what was going on the first
with you of what was going on the first
with you of what was going on the first thing that happened and this was not
thing that happened and this was not
thing that happened and this was not planned so we literally just did this
planned so we literally just did this
planned so we literally just did this and then we were thinking of hoping that
and then we were thinking of hoping that
and then we were thinking of hoping that something interesting would come out of
something interesting would come out of
something interesting would come out of it and actually quite a few interesting
it and actually quite a few interesting
it and actually quite a few interesting things would come out of it the first
things would come out of it the first
things would come out of it the first thing was that people were unionizing
thing was that people were unionizing
thing was that people were unionizing like after about 10 minutes each of the
like after about 10 minutes each of the
like after about 10 minutes each of the groups were forming worker unions they
groups were forming worker unions they
groups were forming worker unions they were like we have to speak with a common
were like we have to speak with a common
were like we have to speak with a common voice and we have to go to the
voice and we have to go to the
voice and we have to go to the politicians and demand more money and
politicians and demand more money and
politicians and demand more money and more free time and after about 35
more free time and after about 35
more free time and after about 35 minutes after that kind of didn’t work
minutes after that kind of didn’t work
minutes after that kind of didn’t work out the way that they wanted they were
out the way that they wanted they were
out the way that they wanted they were doing a revolution so they would walk
doing a revolution so they would walk
doing a revolution so they would walk into the tent and kick out the
into the tent and kick out the
into the tent and kick out the politicians and be like hey this is our
politicians and be like hey this is our
politicians and be like hey this is our country or whatever and we really want
country or whatever and we really want
country or whatever and we really want things to run indifferently and then all
things to run indifferently and then all
things to run indifferently and then all the politicians left and they sat there
the politicians left and they sat there
the politicians left and they sat there with all the monitors and all the weird
with all the monitors and all the weird
with all the monitors and all the weird interfaces that we’ve created and they
interfaces that we’ve created and they
interfaces that we’ve created and they were like wait a minute we don’t know
were like wait a minute we don’t know
were like wait a minute we don’t know how this works
how this works
how this works so they went back out and get some of
so they went back out and get some of
so they went back out and get some of the old politicians to come back in
the old politicians to come back in
the old politicians to come back in and then they would ask them you have to
and then they would ask them you have to
and then they would ask them you have to tell me now how does this society thing
tell me now how does this society thing
tell me now how does this society thing work because I’m just a worker I really
work because I’m just a worker I really
work because I’m just a worker I really don’t know and another really really
don’t know and another really really
don’t know and another really really funny thing happened and that is one of
funny thing happened and that is one of
funny thing happened and that is one of the workers had some computer equipment
the workers had some computer equipment
the workers had some computer equipment with them and so he took out of his bag
with them and so he took out of his bag
with them and so he took out of his bag like a laptop and some electronics this
like a laptop and some electronics this
like a laptop and some electronics this was at a festival so there were people
was at a festival so there were people
was at a festival so there were people that had some electronics with them and
that had some electronics with them and
that had some electronics with them and he would start fiddling with his
he would start fiddling with his
he would start fiddling with his electronics until at some point he would
electronics until at some point he would
electronics until at some point he would have an automatic worker created again
have an automatic worker created again
have an automatic worker created again this was not something that we had on
this was not something that we had on
this was not something that we had on our radar so he would go around to the
our radar so he would go around to the
our radar so he would go around to the other workers and he by the hey look I
other workers and he by the hey look I
other workers and he by the hey look I can automate your work you don’t have to
can automate your work you don’t have to
can automate your work you don’t have to work any more at all ever in your life
work any more at all ever in your life
work any more at all ever in your life and would you give me some money and
and would you give me some money and
and would you give me some money and then we can just share you know with
then we can just share you know with
then we can just share you know with share this automatic worker with all of
share this automatic worker with all of
share this automatic worker with all of us and most of the workers said that no
us and most of the workers said that no
us and most of the workers said that no they really don’t want to not have work
they really don’t want to not have work
they really don’t want to not have work anymore because then what are they gonna
anymore because then what are they gonna
anymore because then what are they gonna do with their lives like just go to the
do with their lives like just go to the
do with their lives like just go to the cultural people they don’t like what
cultural people they don’t like what
cultural people they don’t like what they’re doing cultural people actually
they’re doing cultural people actually
they’re doing cultural people actually were very frustrated because everybody
were very frustrated because everybody
were very frustrated because everybody just wanted to go to a bar and nobody
just wanted to go to a bar and nobody
just wanted to go to a bar and nobody wanted to go see high culture it’s a
wanted to go see high culture it’s a
wanted to go see high culture it’s a whole different story
whole different story
whole different story so that was very interesting because
so that was very interesting because
so that was very interesting because suddenly we had all of these different
suddenly we had all of these different
suddenly we had all of these different discussions and actually the discussions
discussions and actually the discussions
discussions and actually the discussions lasted for hours afterwards when we
lasted for hours afterwards when we
lasted for hours afterwards when we would go out for beer and talk to people
would go out for beer and talk to people
would go out for beer and talk to people because we also didn’t know all of the
because we also didn’t know all of the
because we also didn’t know all of the things that were happening because it
things that were happening because it
things that were happening because it wasn’t a scripted story it was all of
wasn’t a scripted story it was all of
wasn’t a scripted story it was all of these different people performing
these different people performing
these different people performing specific roles and there were all of
specific roles and there were all of
specific roles and there were all of these small stories happening in between
these small stories happening in between
these small stories happening in between that were super interesting for us to
that were super interesting for us to
that were super interesting for us to hear and so I do believe that first of
hear and so I do believe that first of
hear and so I do believe that first of all it’s not very hard to create these
all it’s not very hard to create these
all it’s not very hard to create these situations because we can all do it we
situations because we can all do it we
situations because we can all do it we can all just negotiate and make sure
can all just negotiate and make sure
can all just negotiate and make sure that there’s spaces in our lives where
that there’s spaces in our lives where
that there’s spaces in our lives where we can behave whichever way we want and
we can behave whichever way we want and
we can behave whichever way we want and try to come up with new ways of dealing
try to come up with new ways of dealing
try to come up with new ways of dealing with each other and the other thing that
with each other and the other thing that
with each other and the other thing that I find quite interesting is that
I find quite interesting is that
I find quite interesting is that sometimes you need technology to get
sometimes you need technology to get
sometimes you need technology to get people to be playful again but really
people to be playful again but really
people to be playful again but really technology is just the stake that you
technology is just the stake that you
technology is just the stake that you throw over the fence to distract the dog
throw over the fence to distract the dog
throw over the fence to distract the dog if you want to rob the house
if you want to rob the house
if you want to rob the house thank you very much
thank you very much
thank you very much [Applause]
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