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Les nouvelles technologies en soutien de la médecine-Est-ce la limite? | Luc Soler | TEDxAlsace


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hello to everyone so when I get

asked to make a presentation in

head I said oh well no problem

so I do so there is no

worry and then I was given a coach who

wants to give me to crust then salah

came to see me and told me go

show me show me your presentation

go through a bit like that that I have

said okay bah just and said to me but seen

that it’s not going at all you have to

talk about you do not need you to talk that

your job is you need

that you speak good then I ‘m going to talk

Me because it wanted and

I like to please his there and

I will tell you about the story of a

young man who started there is no

badly of time but that is a story

quite banal finally in the beginning since

my story starts in the center of

france to bourgueil a village that

is well known for his wine and in this

small village five years these months there

on the picture so why am I

shows a picture of less than five years

because you know that today we

is in Alsace and that look on the

bottom of the class are storks

here

but actually in fact at five I had

a dream a child’s dream that was of

save lives so you tell me yes

save lives kid’s dream be this

classic anyway huh I do not want to

to do that can not make a head there

on because otherwise that buses

with all the kids quickly becoming

superheroes or firefighters

so I had a little

particularity anyway because I

I will not become a firefighter I wanted

to become a surgeon then obviously

as I will become a surgeon I

did my studies in medicine I am

went to the faculty of laps which was

in the same area and at tourbah I

started my first year I have not

had a great note in french I had

six out of 30

so suddenly I missed my first

year which was very good because

that suddenly it allowed me to become

do a second freshman year and

between the two instead of going in

vacation or work as done

other students I went to see

a surgeon who called himself the doctor

lacombe and this lacombe doctor actually

had operated my little sister a few

years ago in this service of

pediatric surgery service

Pediatric digestive surgery and I

tell him this is it you

would agree to take me into your

service during the summer because me

I would like to be a surgeon later

so he says come on and so I’m going

during all this wonderful summer in

this service

so there I discovered everything I had

at the time 18 years old and I first

discovered this so that craft that I think

is ideal was really nice and

frankly he was really nice

it was very hard technically the

joyel how they operated I could

realize this ability both of

negation ladies for the patients but

also especially technical and

of humanity and especially especially ben

when I was only 18 years old I

discovered at that moment actually

what life was like

against death I discovered these

wonderful children full of life then

that he fights against diseases

incredible unfortunately it takes the

to say I also discovered death and

it’s difficult

so I also discovered and especially

admire their exemplary courage

I discovered early admire the love of

his parents who supervise them of the service

caregivers are

wonderful and obviously all that

he was one of the true heroes of his

services it’s the sick the real ones

hero it’s their families and we

is there just to help them and I

discovered that in a long block and see

the blog who blues them so why he

is blue because I actually date it in

I was like a fish in the water

in a blog I’m just fine and at the

end of these three months dr lacombe me

proposed something rather unheard

but said you will do two operations

duo ie what duo sire

that I was the second there was

a term that operated him watched this

was happening and I had to place the

instruments move organs from

pretty basic stuff but when you

are in first year of medicine

and that you have missed enough yes yes

pretty basic web or if you ‘re doing

the true kitchen is a bit like this

after these two operations in

did I realized that 1

I was good at being honest I have a

that two I was really super good at

as a surgeon I would be a

awesome surgeon my future was

all traced the surgery it was good

I had touched my dream

I knew it would be my future and

so I’m doing my second year and the a7

over 30 French years then you go

to say why there is French in

medicine but I too ask myself

question because obviously

and there, of course, it’s a bit

difficult because when you have a

goal in life that’s easy

you are all drawn your future is

all traced and you have a 7 out of 30

who blocks you while a 10 out of 30

can you pass it’s hard to

to leave then I fought I

evolved obviously make a

third year it was just not

possible this third year then

then I tried to do something else

thing I told myself eh the service to

armies I was preferring the army for

to be able to make medicine save lives

see the concept simply because

soa service that there was a discount

university a little bit of an independent this

says after two years of medicine

it was just not possible then in

did it I did without the spirit of falling

except that nobody knew about it and

see what happens when we fall

well there is someone who comes to you

help you get up

and that happens at the first steps

the footsteps of childhood and the first

people who help you get up

when you fall that way to parents and

it was the same for me they told me

helped me up and made me

understand an important thing

to learn to walk is first

learn to get up and that’s it

really important you have to accept the

hand extended and after you have to have a

goal to move forward once we

got up and there my problem he

was important it was that I had more

of objective so I learned the guitar

I played guitar did not follow

not make a lot of money because

people will give me the money just

for me to stop playing but apart

it’s not eh I did it

tennis I was a tennis teacher I know

that there are some who tell me you are sure

since still there good and ultimately

in the end I did the only thing that

which seemed interesting to me since

medicine unfortunately for me

it was over I made a cross on it

and I decided to make

the computer why of

the computer simply because

that at the time it was my hobby

so I may know in the room

there are children who play a lot

video games or rather their parents and

is said but what is this

trick that will never do anything to them

life actually thanks to that I did

something of my life since see to

the time I did the science degree

of towers where there was an option

computer and at the time see

it was punched cards

learned could program my

computer of the time it was this

computer

he had eight colors it was great

and it was the doubt of a pc ibm when

same and with that I could develop

nice video games so that was

my hobby was not my passion

it was my hobby and it was not bad

so I’m good, that’s better than

nothing I’m going to do my job from my

leisure without really knowing by the way

what I was going to do with it and so I

did this science faculty I had 16

over 20 years french

and after 1.19 format a wine in

computer I was recruited

directly to the high school

computer studies in paris is in

third year

I had to make a dea and I chose

to do the dr d’orsay in which he

there was a teacher the professor

nicholas ayache who was giving an option

which was called medical informatics

but that I did not know when I’m doing

there paris I learned the moment I

chose to do two hours of recipes

just by bravado for that matter because

it was supposed to be the hardest then

I was to see his option and he

shows a brain in 3d and he tells us

explains at the end of his presentation

who was great looking for

someone a trainee to develop

a digestive surgery simulator on

the liver and if you remember the

beginning of my story is good I was

in a digestive surgery department

so I’m going to see him on Thursday I’m the

only candidate that you will have who did

that’s why I’m necessarily the best

candidate and suddenly he got me

recruited so I left for sophia

antipolis in the south of France

was rather nice and sophia

antipolis where was his laboratory of

inria

I started my internship with 7 of this

development he was seeing at the time

I was a little further but especially

the helmet was much bigger

it has reversed with time the cases

are smaller

and at the end of my internship I left

do the military service then the

military service

on my return the broussard marescaux

jacques marescaux you know

maybe who created the ircad institute

Research Against Cancer

the digestive tract in 1994 he had

got European funding and he

was proposing a thesis scholarship for

do the thesis so in the team of

nicolay h i got seven thesis scholarships

it is he who chose is there and so

I started to develop my thesis

on assisted surgery

computer the problem is that

it was two worlds

did not know computers at all

and the medicalize a lot of trouble to

communicate but the chance I had

it was that at the time I already had

met the one who will be my future

wife and that he is today

the mother of my children who gave me a lot

just helped what I wanted

they understand what we were doing

aurel and nights of the computer world

nor the medical world

today in the French test

see the links which is very

practice in my case so for her

understand what I was doing I

popularize my speech I started

to make explanations of what is

l computer science of what was the

medical in a language she could

include results of the races

doctors understood what I was doing

in computer science and computer scientists

understood what was being done in medicine

young people is to create a bridge between these

two worlds and this bridge that allowed me to

do things a bit original and well

that was the strength of my thesis

since in the end I got the

congratulations from the jury of the finger of orsay

who was one of the last certifies

the fine congratulations that had been

given by this university

so at the end of two worlds my thesis

Professor Marescaux offers me a

post to create my own team of

research

he proposes this post he was in

competition with the general society

electric who offered me a position of

researcher so what really did

the difference is that the trial in

March that he told me that you will work

in the medical with me and the

first thing I did was

graduate from university

surgery in the institute and that

obviously it was really great

the second huge gift that made me

Jacques Marescaux That’s who allowed me

a year to the day after the

defense of the thesis to present

my work at the draw academy

because my thesis was actually the

mix of anatomy and

computing

my thesis jury and tmx centers

computer and it says call and

when I presented my work in front of

bismuth who created the surgery of the

I explained that the anatomy of the

queen’s choices at were wrong in

in at least 33% of cases in

lead to errors that could be

obviously a real problem for

the operation of the patient etc using

the computer have corrected this problem

at the end of my bismuth talk asks

aquino what do you think

because I did not know that

cousineau was in the room quinn

rising and the one who invented

the anatomy of the time I help him

criticized by the passage all the way through

world around the world use and

the queen anatomy up and he got

lifted up so I thought he’ll come

put a slap in fact not at all he

said in my wildest dreams I

would never have imagined that one day we

can do what you did and he

offered me his autographed books and he

congratulated me

which for the little student in

medicine that had missed medicine itself

find in the academy of surgery

congratulated by his peers were

obviously an encouragement to

continue on this path of difference

since obviously I was different

I had made a different path

I had found a way out or

rather a gateway into a

world that had refused me with its limit

usual and thanks to that I was able

continue my path by becoming first

professor at the faculty of medicine

of Strasbourg associated with the team of

professor marescaux

from the following year to 30 years which

is it seems to these young people so it’s

not necessarily that which is the most

spectacular since in fact I am

still not a doctor and I will know

never but I am a teacher in

medicine in fact i’m kind of one

kind of virtual surgeons if you

want

I often say jokingly

that’s why I’m trying to

make robots that will automate the

surgery to replace surgeons

because they did not want me

the reality is that from there

I gave the chance to others

people we created this team that

wanted jacques marescaux

we started with three and then

the team gradually grew a

little like me but only I am a

diet and in the end you see that it’s

the current team and together with

this team who has who is a

composition of personalities

outstanding and capabilities

exceptional we began to

revolutionize the medicine that one

knew

we have mixed these two worlds and we have

introduce the computer to the block

operative

today with what we have developed

we can see the patient like that as

a hologram with a helmet

virtual reality and that’s the

virtual copy of the patient you

see these lands is not an anatomy

mean is the anatomy of this patient

because all patients are

different like all beings

humans finally out of 16 are

different and the strength of this system

it is also possible to use it

during the operation to see to

through the patient then what is it

serves all that it serves to save

lives that is still and will remain

always my dream

the image you see on the screen is

the image of a six-month-old child

the green spot is a big tumor

without the program

the operation should last between 4 and 7

hours the challenge is a fact known

not too much with the virtual copy that

you see there he was able to train

before the operation on its copy

and in the end the operation lasted 40

minutes obviously the child was

saved this second example that you

see now on the screen this is a

tumor that is not in the device

digestive but which is a tumor of

lungs and seven children had a

diagnosis that was atresia that’s

the word a bit complicated which is clogged

obviously the bronchi and see in

did here he thought the area to

cut out it was the yellow area the

upper right lung

but with the software when we look

we realize that in fact what was

withdrew it’s the little part in blue

the surgeons would remove the

bad part and test up the

pathology through software

he was well cared for and finally a

last example with this child who

was just not operable he

at three months

and see the tasks in the body in

bar well it’s pathology but

it’s almost impossible to understand his

vascularization with 3d mapping

with this own modeling

patients can be seen there in three

dimensions we will rotate it and we

go look at the patient’s back and there we

sees clearly appear to

the two pathologies that must be removed

and their vascularization result

the child has not only been operated on

but he was also healed these are

that three examples among many

a lot of examples and so I’ll be

never a surgeon in my life but my

dream it was not to be a cd surgeon

to save lives so what’s needed

remember my little story there

no limits that can not be

crossed if you believe in your dreams

thank you

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