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hello to all that makes me happy to

come back to central which I’m going to

talk is tomorrow’s office and for

start maybe you ‘re talking about

almost the first offices in which

I worked just before founding

my consulting firm grimoire king

so my first offices before

to found dead gray king it was in a

big bank and he was very gray

overall gray white furniture the

gray carpet of white flagstones at

ceiling basically it looked like that

except that in addition it was paris so

you imagine the same thing less

bright and gray also to the windows

to summarize the color level

it was really record is regret

that nothing very sexy and that’s what

you see it’s more an image she

had to be taken probably on the 15th

August

nobody in the offices in real

it was not at all that it’s like

when I look at my daughter only three

years in photo she looks cute

all canes

but when you have it next to you

not the same the level are

it was the same

the open space it was extremely

noisy we were constantly disturbed

is extremely difficult to work

and so I decided to ask myself

on the offices there are studies that

have been carried out and she considers that

has an average of 150 disturbances per day

in open space

we are disturbed every 3 to 4

minutes so what is the impact of these

disturbances there are several

the first is that on average but

64 seconds to recover from a

disruption and that’s an average because

that when it’s the phone of your

open space neighbor who rings you

listen to it in one ear answer then

hang up and then tell you about it by saying

that she builds there it takes you

much more than a minute and so that

makes you lose a lot of time

of work you have for many done

math in 150 times a minute that

is two and a half hours a day

is going to recover from the disturbances

second impact is who

probably even worse is that we

works less well and in reality we

is even less intelligent in open

space

it is thought that moving into

permanence from one task to another

equates to a loss of khouildi

points then you will tell me it depends

from where we start obviously 10.2 thigh

is the equivalent of a sleepless night or

to smoke a joint

obviously to avoid cumulating the

factors what does it mean by

example you have to eat maths

some days you are tired you

try to solve a problem of

math

you will put an hour then

usually where did you get 5 or

10 minutes and it’s exactly the same

thing in the business every

tasks that are complex

we have a lot more trouble

realize then sometimes in training one

wonder with a little apprehension

but what is reversible

so yes yes when you go out of the open

space your intelligence comes back everything is going

well and so to return to his offices

there were more problems

that the disturbances were the

meeting rooms she was never

available

it was almost impossible to find a

room to get together so we were

simply forced to stay

always in the same place in a

environment that was very complex

and so I decided to lean a

little bit more about the offices and

think about what we could

do better how do we

could work tomorrow for that I have

thought about how we worked

yesterday the day before yesterday in the years 60-70

many of you we were not

again there was a lot of

individual offices

so that was especially for the

people best placed in

company left case we had for

a lot of an individual office and case of

right for what was worse

investment business was the

terrorists office we were still in

the industrial world

with the advent of

at big bureaucracy this was it

rows of offices where everyone

was working on his

work and the difficulty was what

it was actually one and pretending

all human beings are shameless

and so we had a lot of trouble

collaborate when you’re in an office

individual that we have an idea that can

to interest a neighbor and very few are

those who will have the courage to stand

raise to open their offices

cross a long corridor to go

knock on a door

maybe even that the colleague will be

in addition even not present is so in

reality it was very difficult to

collaborate and that’s why in

the 80s 90 and a third

model that appeared the social office or

the open space and the goal was to

make a glance in

know who is there who is around and

that we can easily converse

good to be honest with you there was

also a non economic impact

negligible that which is that when we

break partitions we gain a lot of

space but hey and so the question that

I asked myself it’s ok open space

there is still a lot of limit

what to do and there you

you may be saying that she is going to us

make the move of 7 and better before

maybe we come back to the office

individual eventually it was a lot

more comfortable just as for example

I am sure that center in lyon was

a lot better before especially between 2005

and 2008 is here to respond to

this question I asked myself about

what was done elsewhere and in particular

in companies that have budgets

almost unlimited for example if you

look at the gaffes with several

billion euros of net income

every year employees who are

very well paid

globally if there is anything to

to improve their performance

and their well-being for sure

do it and so I wondered

are they ironed or durand

individual so I was seeing a little

so little on the facebook side marc

zuckerberg decided to create the most

large open space of the world 1 km 5 long

thousands of developers to

inside so good a priori are not

gone on this track

on the google side they have

decided

to densify their space is a little

paradoxical we say to ourselves there are a lot of

disturbances but they said they are going

put everyone in a box on

will reduce the size of the box we are going

shake it all out

innovations

so good to make it possible to

side they pay classes of

meditation to the employees to arrive

to counterbalance and so in

the occurrence here they are rather

go in the direction of the

densification

if we look at the side of at rbn bis

furniture rather cozy a little more

like at home also a lot

creative rooms for example

at dropbox with the lego who

come back to the world of work and

so finally I said to myself what is this

that we can do and so there was

three constants

among all these models the first

thing is the opening we stay on

open spaces

the second thing that stood out

it was the variety one has access to a

many of the workspaces a lot

more important to schematize it’s

like at home

it’s nice to have a lounge for

able to watch movies a room

to be able to sleep a kitchen

to cook then obviously we did not

not all access to that but maybe

that you are still for some

of you in the studio worry

not that you managed to go in

bigger soon the up

now it was a bit the equivalent

in the summer in a big studio

to say we had a single workstation

and so the idea of ​​variety is to

to say to oneself that at home one is

happy to have several pieces we will

also have different types of spaces

so that for every task to

to realize we can go to work

in the space that is most appropriate

and the third thing that came out of

this benchmark among the gaffes to

it was mobility that says variety

spaces of immobility since for

go from one space to another he goes

have to move a lot and so

finally what could we

propose to French companies

well what we decided to

develop it’s the flex office of

1 0 then you see it’s still

nicer

including in terms of colors the flec

sophie what is it based on two

things first of all positions

individual that are shared because

that in reality we will not pass

a lot of time on his desk between

teleworking and going to

all these spaces

finally we will happened shortly

and on the other hand spaces that they go

to be very varied much more

collaborative spaces the tunes a customer

we go up to fifteen types of spaces

collaborative it’s really going to

the language space at the room with

high tables often dirty years

use it to make meetings

very short overall tried to

stay an hour standing in a meeting a

general it’s calm we’re much more

synthetic is actually the flex

office 2.0 respond perfectly to 5

major tipping first tipping

switching from a cost center to

a creative tool of value up

now we saw the offices as

a center of pau it was a line of

neck we were trying to minimize it the most

possible

there we realize that it can

contrary help us create the

value

second job shift

individual towards collaborative work

researchers believe that ten years ago

80% of our tasks were

individual and 20% only summer

collaborative but he also believes that

in ten years the ratio will be reversed

that is, we will have 80% of our

tasks that are collaborative

obviously we also have to modify our

third shift offices of

the team sets up so far we

was a lot in a team in

know his manager his colleagues from

more and more his work in project mode

and not that we will tend to have

colleagues who are very varied on

will work with in transversal mode

with different trades in

the company and outside

fourth switch from formal to

the informal you are lucky you

may not have the opportunity to

know

20h25 hours per week in

formal meetings there are ten people

around the table

not always very interested in

topics that are discussed

all in a meeting room

classic with a meeting of two

hours planned in advance more and

the more we collaborate informally

in a hallway around the machine to

coffee

it’s all work and 5th

tipping is what you know

all airbnb drive in yes so the start

up in sharing the idea what is it

it is to tell oneself rather than to have

four or five vehicles that go from the

smart to the moving truck

what is good is to have

possibly 1

and then finally we will be able to rent

other vehicles when we need them

the flex office is exactly that

it’s just saying we’re going to have

access to a lot more space and in

counterpart we agree to share his

post 4 major benefits more

more autonomy more well-being

of agility more collaboration and the

cherry on the desk is dare to say

that we try to develop also it is

serendipity

do some of you know this

that you can raise your hand ok

then there ferrandi pitt and that’s the

value creation linked to chance

the examples that are often quoted is the

pie tatin the tatin sisters were

distracted with messed have put

the paw over and finally

it was very good and so was born the

pie recipe on time or so the

post it a glue that does not stick

well anyway

and then hop we create post it and

so in this case the serendipity

that’s what absolutely want

develop all businesses

americans right now so I you

give some examples that can you

sound a little bit zany first

example at salesforce the voting doors

so the voting doors the idea is that

to be able to pass a door you have to

vote then I reassure you it’s

why am I asking and it’s not a

priori to go to the toilet what

vibrate so it can be a

little painful but the goal is

just to talk to people at

moment to pass the door

second example at kayak.com the

airline ticket comparator they have

set up an algorithm to decide

who was going to sit next to who we were

could absolutely

to do in France with the CNIL but they

have put a whole bunch of data what is

your team for example if we want

bring marketing and

commercials we will be able to do it

what is your age your schedules your

talked about politics just now

what are your political views

are you rather pessimistic

optimistic and from that they will they

tell who you are going next to

install for both you feel

well and is created the most value

possible

for the anecdote for people who

are pessimistic

in fact in the rhythm slang they

surround a wall of people

positive

the idea would be to have a spread

and incidentally obviously that the

no one also feel better

eg blind lunch and that’s come

also in France there is a start up

French who does it at society

general for example they practice it

you are all alone for lunch or

wanted to meet others

professionals you register in

line and we show you a lunch

with a colleague you do not know

it does not look much like

mythical

globally the serendipity often the

houthis and mythical but

professionals what else example

the elevator we do not know it like that

but real estate managers going on

hours to think about what is

what are we going to do in the elevator why

because in defense or in

major US capitals are there

huge towers and we pass several

minutes a day in the elevator in

France we often have screens

information on the news of

the company in the United States more and

to put more games or quizzes

the goal is always the same

desperately to make sure that

people talk to each other

it’s silly huh but it’s really that

and to show you that it can go

very far

at apos then it’s very limited

as an example especially in terms of

quality of life at work

he had a bridge that connects and the

offices and premises so basically in

thirty seconds we were coming out of work and

we joined his car they are here

it’s a shame people do not take the

time to talk to each other while leaving work

so what did they do they did

cut off the bridge they created a whole

way that is no longer 5 minutes to

foot they make every day the

employees of zappos this not ultimately

trades

like five minutes ago to do

often they will tend to

do with other people who

go out of the premises it’s a bit like

ikea it is not by chance that

makes you go through all the shelves

one after another and so the flex

office what is the goal

one of the objectives of the Fleix Office is

clearly to maximize the serendipity

that is, to make sure that

people talk to each other more than people have

different neighbors and they have

varieties the space they’re going to have

tend to be much more mobile

and so we will succeed in making sure

that they talk to each other and so they create

the value

and it works we had very good feedback

positive for example a customer in

industry or two teza went

in a coffee machine that was

for a little bit different in a

other floor they had never

met they exchanged their

exchanges was born a patent and two

senior patents a lot of money the

flex office we set it up in a

fifteen major groups

it represents more than fifteen thousand

employees we accompanied you see

some names in general society

simons axa nj psa sanofi so could

legitimately you ask me

ask is it works

good so obviously if it worked

not a priori I will not talk about it

today so it works well and

perhaps for concluded a great

pride

one of my greatest pride

professionals even this is this figure

89%

it’s among the fifteen thousand employees

that we accompanied to the flex office

everyone who for nothing in the world

would like to go back

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