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lovely be here tonight quite symbolic

lovely be here tonight quite symbolic actually they were all selling

actually they were all selling

actually they were all selling installment with no government to speak

installment with no government to speak

installment with no government to speak off with such wonderful speakers and

off with such wonderful speakers and

off with such wonderful speakers and such intelligence and when Elizabeth was

such intelligence and when Elizabeth was

such intelligence and when Elizabeth was talking about her pride years of her

talking about her pride years of her

talking about her pride years of her country I was thinking about her pride

country I was thinking about her pride

country I was thinking about her pride we all are of Northern Ireland and what

we all are of Northern Ireland and what

we all are of Northern Ireland and what would be our equivalent to your bridge

would be our equivalent to your bridge

would be our equivalent to your bridge it was probably this place but it’s just

it was probably this place but it’s just

it was probably this place but it’s just not working at the moment but we’ll get

not working at the moment but we’ll get

not working at the moment but we’ll get there

there

there so on to my story walking down Royal

so on to my story walking down Royal

so on to my story walking down Royal Avenue in Belfast I saw a little stall

Avenue in Belfast I saw a little stall

Avenue in Belfast I saw a little stall with pictures there was pictures of

with pictures there was pictures of

with pictures there was pictures of Harland and Wolff’s pictures off you

Harland and Wolff’s pictures off you

Harland and Wolff’s pictures off you know the carrick-a-rede rope bridge the

know the carrick-a-rede rope bridge the

know the carrick-a-rede rope bridge the pictures that the tourist stop and buy

pictures that the tourist stop and buy

pictures that the tourist stop and buy from the cruise ships the black hedges

from the cruise ships the black hedges

from the cruise ships the black hedges weren’t there because at that stage they

weren’t there because at that stage they

weren’t there because at that stage they weren’t famous in the back I saw this

weren’t famous in the back I saw this

weren’t famous in the back I saw this picture and it touched me I quietly

picture and it touched me I quietly

picture and it touched me I quietly asked how much was it and I put up my

asked how much was it and I put up my

asked how much was it and I put up my bag and covered it up and I brought it

bag and covered it up and I brought it

bag and covered it up and I brought it home and I put it in a dine stirrers

home and I put it in a dine stirrers

home and I put it in a dine stirrers bathroom and nobody would see it I don’t

bathroom and nobody would see it I don’t

bathroom and nobody would see it I don’t know why I did that

know why I did that

know why I did that but I did that this picture is off a

but I did that this picture is off a

but I did that this picture is off a chair with a chi m to the wall the

chair with a chi m to the wall the

chair with a chi m to the wall the prisons in northern ireland and the 70s

prisons in northern ireland and the 70s

prisons in northern ireland and the 70s were full of chairs like this if you

were full of chairs like this if you

were full of chairs like this if you were a child visiting a prison this is

were a child visiting a prison this is

were a child visiting a prison this is the chair you sat on I was a child

the chair you sat on I was a child

the chair you sat on I was a child visiting a prison this is the chair i

visiting a prison this is the chair i

visiting a prison this is the chair i sat on I’ve said it how many people in

sat on I’ve said it how many people in

sat on I’ve said it how many people in Northern Ireland in the early 1970s were

Northern Ireland in the early 1970s were

Northern Ireland in the early 1970s were the children of prisoners the prison

the children of prisoners the prison

the children of prisoners the prison population without 400 percent in the

population without 400 percent in the

population without 400 percent in the late 60s early 70s but we don’t hear

late 60s early 70s but we don’t hear

late 60s early 70s but we don’t hear about these children we hear a lot about

about these children we hear a lot about

about these children we hear a lot about the prisoners are locked indeed many of

the prisoners are locked indeed many of

the prisoners are locked indeed many of them roam these halls but what of those

them roam these halls but what of those

them roam these halls but what of those children I know some and they don’t tell

children I know some and they don’t tell

children I know some and they don’t tell people and they’re across all society my

people and they’re across all society my

people and they’re across all society my first job after University was to go

first job after University was to go

first job after University was to go work with a probation service

work with a probation service

work with a probation service what better job could I have I was quite

what better job could I have I was quite

what better job could I have I was quite passionate about rehabilitation and

passionate about rehabilitation and

passionate about rehabilitation and helping people and I find that when I

helping people and I find that when I

helping people and I find that when I went into my job there were two groups

went into my job there were two groups

went into my job there were two groups or prisoners there were the ODC s and

or prisoners there were the ODC s and

or prisoners there were the ODC s and there were what we called the politicals

there were what we called the politicals

there were what we called the politicals and some people called the terrorists

and some people called the terrorists

and some people called the terrorists the Oh DC’s ordinary decent criminal

the Oh DC’s ordinary decent criminal

the Oh DC’s ordinary decent criminal they were the rapist the burglars all of

they were the rapist the burglars all of

they were the rapist the burglars all of those people that didn’t have a

those people that didn’t have a

those people that didn’t have a political crime where the OD sees as I

political crime where the OD sees as I

political crime where the OD sees as I read the files I couldn’t believe was

read the files I couldn’t believe was

read the files I couldn’t believe was some of the stuff that I read right

some of the stuff that I read right

some of the stuff that I read right across all of the files I have to say

across all of the files I have to say

across all of the files I have to say bit traumatized they’re really young

bit traumatized they’re really young

bit traumatized they’re really young offenders and oh my those young

offenders and oh my those young

offenders and oh my those young offenders I struggled when I read the

offenders I struggled when I read the

offenders I struggled when I read the files to find one just one that had a

files to find one just one that had a

files to find one just one that had a decent home a decent upbringing every

decent home a decent upbringing every

decent home a decent upbringing every one of them had something that had

one of them had something that had

one of them had something that had happened to them they might have been

happened to them they might have been

happened to them they might have been filled at school if not by their family

filled at school if not by their family

filled at school if not by their family but there was always something that led

but there was always something that led

but there was always something that led to them to the place that they ended up

to them to the place that they ended up

to them to the place that they ended up and I loved my job my boss was great and

and I loved my job my boss was great and

and I loved my job my boss was great and I got promoted

I got promoted

I got promoted I bought this we hice 108 Balfour Avenue

I bought this we hice 108 Balfour Avenue

I bought this we hice 108 Balfour Avenue to on the lower armor Road it’s all I

to on the lower armor Road it’s all I

to on the lower armor Road it’s all I could afford

could afford

could afford I play classical music and I painted the

I play classical music and I painted the

I play classical music and I painted the walls and thought maybe I was becoming

walls and thought maybe I was becoming

walls and thought maybe I was becoming what I always wanted to be a

what I always wanted to be a

what I always wanted to be a professional person breakthrough be

professional person breakthrough be

professional person breakthrough be something special be something better my

something special be something better my

something special be something better my boss called me in and said the whole

boss called me in and said the whole

boss called me in and said the whole team is moving inside of the prison to

team is moving inside of the prison to

team is moving inside of the prison to do our rehabilitation

do our rehabilitation

do our rehabilitation I was excited I’d already been promoted

I was excited I’d already been promoted

I was excited I’d already been promoted I’d given up my masters because he

I’d given up my masters because he

I’d given up my masters because he wanted me to do the full-time job

wanted me to do the full-time job

wanted me to do the full-time job yes you’re not coming me I’m not coming

yes you’re not coming me I’m not coming

yes you’re not coming me I’m not coming not better than everybody here why why

not better than everybody here why why

not better than everybody here why why not coming don’t worry dear it’s nothing

not coming don’t worry dear it’s nothing

not coming don’t worry dear it’s nothing to do with you it’s because of where

to do with you it’s because of where

to do with you it’s because of where you’re from and who you really added to

you’re from and who you really added to

you’re from and who you really added to I packed up my car two weeks later and I

I packed up my car two weeks later and I

I packed up my car two weeks later and I went to London twenty-two years of age

went to London twenty-two years of age

went to London twenty-two years of age heartbroken absolutely still heartbroken

heartbroken absolutely still heartbroken

heartbroken absolutely still heartbroken how could that happen in our society how

how could that happen in our society how

how could that happen in our society how could we ask people to move forward how

could we ask people to move forward how

could we ask people to move forward how could we ask people to work together be

could we ask people to work together be

could we ask people to work together be together and treat people like that

together and treat people like that

together and treat people like that who was doing this why I didn’t do

who was doing this why I didn’t do

who was doing this why I didn’t do anything all I ever wanted was the best

anything all I ever wanted was the best

anything all I ever wanted was the best for everyone I went to university and I

for everyone I went to university and I

for everyone I went to university and I had friends whose dads when they are you

had friends whose dads when they are you

had friends whose dads when they are you see I made friends English friends whose

see I made friends English friends whose

see I made friends English friends whose parents have been soldiers here I made

parents have been soldiers here I made

parents have been soldiers here I made friends across the page me we didn’t

friends across the page me we didn’t

friends across the page me we didn’t care where we were from we cared about

care where we were from we cared about

care where we were from we cared about what our moral compass was who we were

what our moral compass was who we were

what our moral compass was who we were guess what it isn’t all bad I had a

guess what it isn’t all bad I had a

guess what it isn’t all bad I had a fantastic career you know when you go

fantastic career you know when you go

fantastic career you know when you go somewhere else all they care about is

somewhere else all they care about is

somewhere else all they care about is how good you are they don’t care about

how good you are they don’t care about

how good you are they don’t care about what your address was they don’t care

what your address was they don’t care

what your address was they don’t care about who you’re related to they don’t

about who you’re related to they don’t

about who you’re related to they don’t care about anything else they want to

care about anything else they want to

care about anything else they want to know guess what what are you putting on

know guess what what are you putting on

know guess what what are you putting on the bottom line is my company well guess

the bottom line is my company well guess

the bottom line is my company well guess what ladies and gents that wasn’t that

what ladies and gents that wasn’t that

what ladies and gents that wasn’t that difficult for me

difficult for me

difficult for me I was hard-working I was ambitious I had

I was hard-working I was ambitious I had

I was hard-working I was ambitious I had something driving me something bigger

something driving me something bigger

something driving me something bigger and maybe maybe maybe it was the chance

and maybe maybe maybe it was the chance

and maybe maybe maybe it was the chance there was always something no matter how

there was always something no matter how

there was always something no matter how well I did I worked all over a year it

well I did I worked all over a year it

well I did I worked all over a year it got boring I wanted to be home has three

got boring I wanted to be home has three

got boring I wanted to be home has three little children I’m one of them’s here

little children I’m one of them’s here

little children I’m one of them’s here and I decided to bring them back to this

and I decided to bring them back to this

and I decided to bring them back to this godforsaken place that I love and I

godforsaken place that I love and I

godforsaken place that I love and I brought them back at my gorgeous English

brought them back at my gorgeous English

brought them back at my gorgeous English husband to this it was 2012 and it was

husband to this it was 2012 and it was

husband to this it was 2012 and it was the flag protest and I thought oh my god

the flag protest and I thought oh my god

the flag protest and I thought oh my god what have I done

what have I done

what have I done what have I done I thought our society

what have I done I thought our society

what have I done I thought our society had moved forward oh no and I started to

had moved forward oh no and I started to

had moved forward oh no and I started to try and understand what was going on

try and understand what was going on

try and understand what was going on within unionist culture and I thought

within unionist culture and I thought

within unionist culture and I thought rather than set up the Malone Road with

rather than set up the Malone Road with

rather than set up the Malone Road with a very nice salary keep myself to myself

a very nice salary keep myself to myself

a very nice salary keep myself to myself keep my kids in a good grammar school

keep my kids in a good grammar school

keep my kids in a good grammar school maybe it’s time I did something instead

maybe it’s time I did something instead

maybe it’s time I did something instead of complaining about politicians so I

of complaining about politicians so I

of complaining about politicians so I did didn’t I

did didn’t I

did didn’t I did my ladies and gentlemen I did

did my ladies and gentlemen I did

did my ladies and gentlemen I did something

but as you’re starting to see my story

but as you’re starting to see my story doesn’t always end well I tried to be

doesn’t always end well I tried to be

doesn’t always end well I tried to be the bridge between two men but that’s a

the bridge between two men but that’s a

the bridge between two men but that’s a whole other TED talk an IEEE 21 fresh

whole other TED talk an IEEE 21 fresh

whole other TED talk an IEEE 21 fresh politics we got the kids involved we

politics we got the kids involved we

politics we got the kids involved we have a social media strategy and I

have a social media strategy and I

have a social media strategy and I worked my socks off I worked harder than

worked my socks off I worked harder than

worked my socks off I worked harder than anybody and I was running my own little

anybody and I was running my own little

anybody and I was running my own little company sponsored by a PLC there were

company sponsored by a PLC there were

company sponsored by a PLC there were four of us in a little office and the

four of us in a little office and the

four of us in a little office and the Scottish problem building by sitting all

Scottish problem building by sitting all

Scottish problem building by sitting all they’d left their jobs to come and work

they’d left their jobs to come and work

they’d left their jobs to come and work for me

for me

for me they knew me I had a responsibility I

they knew me I had a responsibility I

they knew me I had a responsibility I was gonna build something big but I was

was gonna build something big but I was

was gonna build something big but I was gonna work every night at building this

gonna work every night at building this

gonna work every night at building this party as well a journalist called me and

party as well a journalist called me and

party as well a journalist called me and he said I want to hear your story

he said I want to hear your story

he said I want to hear your story so of course just like all this I talked

so of course just like all this I talked

so of course just like all this I talked about and did you know I won this award

about and did you know I won this award

about and did you know I won this award and did you know I built this and did

and did you know I built this and did

and did you know I built this and did you know I’m back because I love this

you know I’m back because I love this

you know I’m back because I love this place and this is the article II printed

place and this is the article II printed

place and this is the article II printed my lovely English husband said darling

my lovely English husband said darling

my lovely English husband said darling what’s worse being a West Belfast car

what’s worse being a West Belfast car

what’s worse being a West Belfast car but the unionist chief title or being

but the unionist chief title or being

but the unionist chief title or being someone in business called an IRA man’s

someone in business called an IRA man’s

someone in business called an IRA man’s daughter

daughter

daughter what is worse and I said I don’t know

what is worse and I said I don’t know

what is worse and I said I don’t know what’s worse but we’re leaving I’m

what’s worse but we’re leaving I’m

what’s worse but we’re leaving I’m already here

already here

already here does anybody here know what time you can

does anybody here know what time you can

does anybody here know what time you can get a newspaper in Northern Ireland

get a newspaper in Northern Ireland

get a newspaper in Northern Ireland because the twelve o’clock in Midnight

because the twelve o’clock in Midnight

because the twelve o’clock in Midnight in November and 2013 the article come up

in November and 2013 the article come up

in November and 2013 the article come up on the web and it says continued on page

on the web and it says continued on page

on the web and it says continued on page four and five

what and on page 45 they worked a time

what and on page 45 they worked a time the future of Northern Ireland because

the future of Northern Ireland because

the future of Northern Ireland because it’s people like me that can overcome

it’s people like me that can overcome

it’s people like me that can overcome their bridges that need to be encouraged

their bridges that need to be encouraged

their bridges that need to be encouraged but this is what they put on the front

but this is what they put on the front

but this is what they put on the front page I was done or so I thought

page I was done or so I thought

page I was done or so I thought something changed that day in me and I

something changed that day in me and I

something changed that day in me and I hope to god it happens to you if it

hope to god it happens to you if it

hope to god it happens to you if it hasn’t already I decided that I would

hasn’t already I decided that I would

hasn’t already I decided that I would stay and I would fear sit and I would

stay and I would fear sit and I would

stay and I would fear sit and I would fight it and I would prove to anyone who

fight it and I would prove to anyone who

fight it and I would prove to anyone who wanted to knock me

wanted to knock me

wanted to knock me that they weren’t going to and this is

that they weren’t going to and this is

that they weren’t going to and this is what I would teach my children not to be

what I would teach my children not to be

what I would teach my children not to be chained to anything we’re all chained to

chained to anything we’re all chained to

chained to anything we’re all chained to something but each link that we build is

something but each link that we build is

something but each link that we build is our bridge to who we are whether you’re

our bridge to who we are whether you’re

our bridge to who we are whether you’re in poverty in Northern Ireland and two

in poverty in Northern Ireland and two

in poverty in Northern Ireland and two hundred thousand people right now today

hundred thousand people right now today

hundred thousand people right now today or ill are sick have mental health

or ill are sick have mental health

or ill are sick have mental health issues children are growing up is that

issues children are growing up is that

issues children are growing up is that there is stigma everywhere in this place

there is stigma everywhere in this place

there is stigma everywhere in this place you can feel it you can smell it you

you can feel it you can smell it you

you can feel it you can smell it you walk into the schools there in the areas

walk into the schools there in the areas

walk into the schools there in the areas that don’t have a lot

that don’t have a lot

that don’t have a lot those kids are stigmatized mousses kids

those kids are stigmatized mousses kids

those kids are stigmatized mousses kids don’t stand a chance

don’t stand a chance

don’t stand a chance Deirdre Heenan will tell you but it is

Deirdre Heenan will tell you but it is

Deirdre Heenan will tell you but it is free we can tell in Northern Ireland

free we can tell in Northern Ireland

free we can tell in Northern Ireland who’s not gonna make it at age three

who’s not gonna make it at age three

who’s not gonna make it at age three because of poverty we’re all chance or

because of poverty we’re all chance or

because of poverty we’re all chance or something and we all have a

something and we all have a

something and we all have a responsibility that when we get

responsibility that when we get

responsibility that when we get somewhere that we help somebody along

somewhere that we help somebody along

somewhere that we help somebody along helped them build their chin have them

helped them build their chin have them

helped them build their chin have them step out of their chair it’s been great

step out of their chair it’s been great

step out of their chair it’s been great it’s been great

it’s been great

it’s been great wow I’m glad I stayed I built three

wow I’m glad I stayed I built three

wow I’m glad I stayed I built three multi-million pound companies I’ve heard

multi-million pound companies I’ve heard

multi-million pound companies I’ve heard five thousand people like to work every

five thousand people like to work every

five thousand people like to work every day across this island

day across this island

day across this island me and my team not just me of course I’m

me and my team not just me of course I’m

me and my team not just me of course I’m just lucky I’m surrounded by such talent

just lucky I’m surrounded by such talent

just lucky I’m surrounded by such talent and more than that more than any of that

and more than that more than any of that

and more than that more than any of that I now run the visitor centers across

I now run the visitor centers across

I now run the visitor centers across these prisons I do the child of a

these prisons I do the child of a

these prisons I do the child of a prisoner these are the toys but I wanted

prisoner these are the toys but I wanted

prisoner these are the toys but I wanted to give in the prisons because it’s way

to give in the prisons because it’s way

to give in the prisons because it’s way too rubbish but the children aren’t

too rubbish but the children aren’t

too rubbish but the children aren’t sitting on the chairs i sat on everyone

sitting on the chairs i sat on everyone

sitting on the chairs i sat on everyone has a chain everyone is a choice

has a chain everyone is a choice

has a chain everyone is a choice everyone is a responsibility looking

everyone is a responsibility looking

everyone is a responsibility looking around the world today at the levels

around the world today at the levels

around the world today at the levels that are on people at the judgements we

that are on people at the judgements we

that are on people at the judgements we make whether it’s Isis whatever it is we

make whether it’s Isis whatever it is we

make whether it’s Isis whatever it is we judge everybody those people afforded

judge everybody those people afforded

judge everybody those people afforded for Trump or judging them all judging

for Trump or judging them all judging

for Trump or judging them all judging people enough is enough to send them the

people enough is enough to send them the

people enough is enough to send them the wrong way

wrong way

wrong way so Who am I what label do I give myself

so Who am I what label do I give myself

so Who am I what label do I give myself I’m a mother first and foremost I’m a

I’m a mother first and foremost I’m a

I’m a mother first and foremost I’m a wife I’m a businesswoman I’m an

wife I’m a businesswoman I’m an

wife I’m a businesswoman I’m an entrepreneur but ladies and gentlemen

entrepreneur but ladies and gentlemen

entrepreneur but ladies and gentlemen I’m also a prisoner’s daughter and I’m

I’m also a prisoner’s daughter and I’m

I’m also a prisoner’s daughter and I’m not ashamed thank you

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