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when we talk about indigenous people and

when we talk about indigenous people and indigenous nationalities we tend to talk

indigenous nationalities we tend to talk

indigenous nationalities we tend to talk about them in terms of the others

about them in terms of the others

about them in terms of the others sometimes we have this exaggerated

sometimes we have this exaggerated

sometimes we have this exaggerated reverence or sometimes were

reverence or sometimes were

reverence or sometimes were condescending or infantilizing or exotic

condescending or infantilizing or exotic

condescending or infantilizing or exotic izing but whatever the case we seem to

izing but whatever the case we seem to

izing but whatever the case we seem to always talk in terms of us and them as

always talk in terms of us and them as

always talk in terms of us and them as if there’s this massive divide

if there’s this massive divide

if there’s this massive divide separating us from indigenous people and

separating us from indigenous people and

separating us from indigenous people and indigenous cultures and I think that’s

indigenous cultures and I think that’s

indigenous cultures and I think that’s really too bad I think that that causes

really too bad I think that that causes

really too bad I think that that causes some big problems I’m not here to

some big problems I’m not here to

some big problems I’m not here to lecture you at all and I understand why

lecture you at all and I understand why

lecture you at all and I understand why we do that in my experience with

we do that in my experience with

we do that in my experience with indigenous people I’ve seen that they

indigenous people I’ve seen that they

indigenous people I’ve seen that they have qualities and abilities that are

have qualities and abilities that are

have qualities and abilities that are amazing to me like I think about being

amazing to me like I think about being

amazing to me like I think about being in an Amazonian community and how the

in an Amazonian community and how the

in an Amazonian community and how the kids there will notice a plane coming

kids there will notice a plane coming

kids there will notice a plane coming minutes before I notice it or something

minutes before I notice it or something

minutes before I notice it or something even bigger how they can live without

even bigger how they can live without

even bigger how they can live without buying food live only on the food that

buying food live only on the food that

buying food live only on the food that they grow or hunt or fish but I think

they grow or hunt or fish but I think

they grow or hunt or fish but I think this tendency to see them is so

this tendency to see them is so

this tendency to see them is so different from us causes problems in

different from us causes problems in

different from us causes problems in that it prevents collaborations and by

that it prevents collaborations and by

that it prevents collaborations and by preventing those collaborations with

preventing those collaborations with

preventing those collaborations with indigenous people

indigenous people

indigenous people I think we’re depriving the world of

I think we’re depriving the world of

I think we’re depriving the world of what perhaps is most needed at this time

what perhaps is most needed at this time

what perhaps is most needed at this time in history and that’s to discover the

in history and that’s to discover the

in history and that’s to discover the wisdom and the power that indigenous

wisdom and the power that indigenous

wisdom and the power that indigenous communities have I’m here today to tell

communities have I’m here today to tell

communities have I’m here today to tell you about a project called kara solar

you about a project called kara solar

you about a project called kara solar that is a explicit attempt to create

that is a explicit attempt to create

that is a explicit attempt to create collaborations between the indigenous

collaborations between the indigenous

collaborations between the indigenous world and non-indigenous world and to

world and non-indigenous world and to

world and non-indigenous world and to blur that gap

blur that gap

blur that gap kada is an amazing word from the a to

kada is an amazing word from the a to

kada is an amazing word from the a to our language that means a dream or a

our language that means a dream or a

our language that means a dream or a vision that’s going to come to pass it’s

vision that’s going to come to pass it’s

vision that’s going to come to pass it’s kind of hard to turn

kind of hard to turn

kind of hard to turn into English or or into Spanish but

into English or or into Spanish but

into English or or into Spanish but maybe you’re the best equivalent would

maybe you’re the best equivalent would

maybe you’re the best equivalent would be like a premonition we decided to to

be like a premonition we decided to to

be like a premonition we decided to to name this project console R because we

name this project console R because we

name this project console R because we have a dream for a new model of

have a dream for a new model of

have a dream for a new model of transportation in the Amazon and it’s a

transportation in the Amazon and it’s a

transportation in the Amazon and it’s a dream that’s shared by many people I

dream that’s shared by many people I

dream that’s shared by many people I just happen to be the person that’s

just happen to be the person that’s

just happen to be the person that’s designated to be here talking to you

designated to be here talking to you

designated to be here talking to you today but there’s a huge group behind

today but there’s a huge group behind

today but there’s a huge group behind this project and I speak on behalf of

this project and I speak on behalf of

this project and I speak on behalf of them I want to bring these people here

them I want to bring these people here

them I want to bring these people here today because I think one of the most

today because I think one of the most

today because I think one of the most powerful things about this project is

powerful things about this project is

powerful things about this project is that it’s a collective dream and one of

that it’s a collective dream and one of

that it’s a collective dream and one of the things I learned about that word

the things I learned about that word

the things I learned about that word cada is that it can be shared by many

cada is that it can be shared by many

cada is that it can be shared by many people that the ajvar feel that dreams

people that the ajvar feel that dreams

people that the ajvar feel that dreams don’t belong to any one person and that

don’t belong to any one person and that

don’t belong to any one person and that we all can contribute to the same cada

we all can contribute to the same cada

we all can contribute to the same cada and I feel that that’s what this what

and I feel that that’s what this what

and I feel that that’s what this what this project is about but to tell you my

this project is about but to tell you my

this project is about but to tell you my my story with Escada

my story with Escada

my story with Escada I have to take you to my first visit to

I have to take you to my first visit to

I have to take you to my first visit to add to our territory it was 2007 I was a

add to our territory it was 2007 I was a

add to our territory it was 2007 I was a senior in in University in the United

senior in in University in the United

senior in in University in the United States I was studying history and I was

States I was studying history and I was

States I was studying history and I was looking for what to do next and I had

looking for what to do next and I had

looking for what to do next and I had the opportunity to visit to our

the opportunity to visit to our

the opportunity to visit to our territory and I was totally amazed by

territory and I was totally amazed by

territory and I was totally amazed by what I found there it’s about seven

what I found there it’s about seven

what I found there it’s about seven hundred thousand hectares of the most

hundred thousand hectares of the most

hundred thousand hectares of the most biodiverse forest on the planet and so I

biodiverse forest on the planet and so I

biodiverse forest on the planet and so I knew I wanted to come back in two years

knew I wanted to come back in two years

knew I wanted to come back in two years later I had the opportunity to go and

later I had the opportunity to go and

later I had the opportunity to go and live in a nod to our community for two

live in a nod to our community for two

live in a nod to our community for two years no that’s a lie for two months and

years no that’s a lie for two months and

years no that’s a lie for two months and the first day I got there I think is the

the first day I got there I think is the

the first day I got there I think is the day that this project codicil art began

day that this project codicil art began

day that this project codicil art began for me I arrived and they called a

for me I arrived and they called a

for me I arrived and they called a community meeting and gave me a document

community meeting and gave me a document

community meeting and gave me a document that said the utens a community internet

that said the utens a community internet

that said the utens a community internet project and they said Oliver we’re

project and they said Oliver we’re

project and they said Oliver we’re working on this project to bring

working on this project to bring

working on this project to bring Internet to you soon sir and we want you

Internet to you soon sir and we want you

Internet to you soon sir and we want you to help us and I in my head I screamed

to help us and I in my head I screamed

to help us and I in my head I screamed myself no this is terrible

myself no this is terrible

myself no this is terrible I had this this really visceral reaction

I had this this really visceral reaction

I had this this really visceral reaction that they shouldn’t have internet they

that they shouldn’t have internet they

that they shouldn’t have internet they shouldn’t bring Internet to their

shouldn’t bring Internet to their

shouldn’t bring Internet to their territory but I didn’t say anything and

territory but I didn’t say anything and

territory but I didn’t say anything and I stayed there and I started talking to

I stayed there and I started talking to

I stayed there and I started talking to them and got to know people and started

them and got to know people and started

them and got to know people and started to learn about how roads are arriving in

to learn about how roads are arriving in

to learn about how roads are arriving in our to our territory if we if we zoom in

our to our territory if we if we zoom in

our to our territory if we if we zoom in on this map of roads we can see how

on this map of roads we can see how

on this map of roads we can see how roads bring deforestation and I learned

roads bring deforestation and I learned

roads bring deforestation and I learned about how a lot of the people in the

about how a lot of the people in the

about how a lot of the people in the community wanted the road to arrive and

community wanted the road to arrive and

community wanted the road to arrive and a lot of people didn’t want the road to

a lot of people didn’t want the road to

a lot of people didn’t want the road to arrive and there was this internal

arrive and there was this internal

arrive and there was this internal debate going on but the fact was is that

debate going on but the fact was is that

debate going on but the fact was is that the roads were arriving there are two

the roads were arriving there are two

the roads were arriving there are two different roads that have now reached

different roads that have now reached

different roads that have now reached out to our territory from the north and

out to our territory from the north and

out to our territory from the north and the West and I learned from the

the West and I learned from the

the West and I learned from the communities about the question of oil

communities about the question of oil

communities about the question of oil this huge question for the ecuadorian

this huge question for the ecuadorian

this huge question for the ecuadorian amazon and how the oil blocks were

amazon and how the oil blocks were

amazon and how the oil blocks were steadily expanding southward being sold

steadily expanding southward being sold

steadily expanding southward being sold off and approaching to our territory and

off and approaching to our territory and

off and approaching to our territory and again there were people in the community

again there were people in the community

again there were people in the community who wanted the oil to to come in people

who wanted the oil to to come in people

who wanted the oil to to come in people who didn’t and there was this internal

who didn’t and there was this internal

who didn’t and there was this internal debate going on and i went back to that

debate going on and i went back to that

debate going on and i went back to that first day when they had given me the

first day when they had given me the

first day when they had given me the document asking me to collaborate with

document asking me to collaborate with

document asking me to collaborate with them on internet and I saw the request

them on internet and I saw the request

them on internet and I saw the request in a whole new way and I realized that

in a whole new way and I realized that

in a whole new way and I realized that technology and the outside world is

technology and the outside world is

technology and the outside world is coming to our to our territory whether

coming to our to our territory whether

coming to our to our territory whether it’s in the form of a road or in the

it’s in the form of a road or in the

it’s in the form of a road or in the form of the internet or in the form of

form of the internet or in the form of

form of the internet or in the form of oil drilling it’s coming technology and

oil drilling it’s coming technology and

oil drilling it’s coming technology and indigenous cultures are colliding and

indigenous cultures are colliding and

indigenous cultures are colliding and that to me was a fascinating encounter

that to me was a fascinating encounter

that to me was a fascinating encounter and something that I decided I wanted to

and something that I decided I wanted to

and something that I decided I wanted to work on so I went back to the United

work on so I went back to the United

work on so I went back to the United States for a year and I studied solar

States for a year and I studied solar

States for a year and I studied solar energy and then I came back to Ecuador

energy and then I came back to Ecuador

energy and then I came back to Ecuador and went back to our communities and

and went back to our communities and

and went back to our communities and started talking to the people there

started talking to the people there

started talking to the people there about how can we use technology in the

about how can we use technology in the

about how can we use technology in the best possible way in your communities

best possible way in your communities

best possible way in your communities and I would love to say that there was a

and I would love to say that there was a

and I would love to say that there was a an amazing aha moment but there wasn’t

an amazing aha moment but there wasn’t

an amazing aha moment but there wasn’t it was a slow development a series of

it was a slow development a series of

it was a slow development a series of conversations and this idea of a boat

conversations and this idea of a boat

conversations and this idea of a boat emerged transportation is the most

emerged transportation is the most

emerged transportation is the most difficult aspect of life in our charter

difficult aspect of life in our charter

difficult aspect of life in our charter taury gasoline is flown in on planes and

taury gasoline is flown in on planes and

taury gasoline is flown in on planes and then used in motor boats they cost about

then used in motor boats they cost about

then used in motor boats they cost about five times what it costs in the rest of

five times what it costs in the rest of

five times what it costs in the rest of the country and so there’s this dream in

the country and so there’s this dream in

the country and so there’s this dream in our to our territory of being able to

our to our territory of being able to

our to our territory of being able to travel using the power of the Sun and

travel using the power of the Sun and

travel using the power of the Sun and it’s a dream shared by a lot of people

it’s a dream shared by a lot of people

it’s a dream shared by a lot of people it’s a cada shared by a lot of people

it’s a cada shared by a lot of people

it’s a cada shared by a lot of people and as we began to work on it in earnest

and as we began to work on it in earnest

and as we began to work on it in earnest we discovered that the boats that have

we discovered that the boats that have

we discovered that the boats that have been used in the Ecuadorian Amazon for

been used in the Ecuadorian Amazon for

been used in the Ecuadorian Amazon for thousands of years these traditional

thousands of years these traditional

thousands of years these traditional canoes are the most appropriate hull

canoes are the most appropriate hull

canoes are the most appropriate hull forms to be used with solar panels and

forms to be used with solar panels and

forms to be used with solar panels and electric motors to create solar powered

electric motors to create solar powered

electric motors to create solar powered boats we did velocity tests and found

boats we did velocity tests and found

boats we did velocity tests and found that the that very small electric motors

that the that very small electric motors

that the that very small electric motors can move these indigenous style boats

can move these indigenous style boats

can move these indigenous style boats very quickly they’re so efficient and we

very quickly they’re so efficient and we

very quickly they’re so efficient and we found that we could fit enough solar

found that we could fit enough solar

found that we could fit enough solar panels on the roof to keep the batteries

panels on the roof to keep the batteries

panels on the roof to keep the batteries charged in – to create a functioning

charged in – to create a functioning

charged in – to create a functioning solar powered transportation system we

solar powered transportation system we

solar powered transportation system we combined disciplines in a way that I

combined disciplines in a way that I

combined disciplines in a way that I think has never been done we worked with

think has never been done we worked with

think has never been done we worked with electrical engineers naval engineers

electrical engineers naval engineers

electrical engineers naval engineers industrial designers and with the Attar

industrial designers and with the Attar

industrial designers and with the Attar themselves to create a design that

themselves to create a design that

themselves to create a design that that’s appropriate for the rivers of

that’s appropriate for the rivers of

that’s appropriate for the rivers of about your territory and all of this

about your territory and all of this

about your territory and all of this happened in Lago Agrio

happened in Lago Agrio

happened in Lago Agrio in the capital of the oil industry here

in the capital of the oil industry here

in the capital of the oil industry here in Ecuador and I’m still haunted by

in Ecuador and I’m still haunted by

in Ecuador and I’m still haunted by something that happened during the

something that happened during the

something that happened during the construction we built on the the shores

construction we built on the the shores

construction we built on the the shores of the agua Rico River and there was a

of the agua Rico River and there was a

of the agua Rico River and there was a guy who lived in the in the neighborhood

guy who lived in the in the neighborhood

guy who lived in the in the neighborhood where we were building the boat and he

where we were building the boat and he

where we were building the boat and he would walk up and down the shore every

would walk up and down the shore every

would walk up and down the shore every day yelling at the top of his lungs

day yelling at the top of his lungs

day yelling at the top of his lungs Bombay and muchachos pumped boys Bombay

Bombay and muchachos pumped boys Bombay

Bombay and muchachos pumped boys Bombay inand petróleo crew though pumped the

inand petróleo crew though pumped the

inand petróleo crew though pumped the crude oil he was in some kind of a

crude oil he was in some kind of a

crude oil he was in some kind of a delusion I think he was a former oil

delusion I think he was a former oil

delusion I think he was a former oil worker who had these kind of daydreams

worker who had these kind of daydreams

worker who had these kind of daydreams going on and it formed this incredible

going on and it formed this incredible

going on and it formed this incredible bizarre situation where we were creating

bizarre situation where we were creating

bizarre situation where we were creating the solar-powered boat with that as our

the solar-powered boat with that as our

the solar-powered boat with that as our our soundtrack we finished the boat in

our soundtrack we finished the boat in

our soundtrack we finished the boat in August of last year and put it in the

August of last year and put it in the

August of last year and put it in the river for the for the first inaugural

river for the for the first inaugural

river for the for the first inaugural trip and in that moment this dream this

trip and in that moment this dream this

trip and in that moment this dream this collective dream of a solar-powered

collective dream of a solar-powered

collective dream of a solar-powered community run transportation system was

community run transportation system was

community run transportation system was real and I want to just show you a

real and I want to just show you a

real and I want to just show you a really brief video is new generation of

really brief video is new generation of

really brief video is new generation of achieved on the game for this Laura

achieved on the game for this Laura

achieved on the game for this Laura Laura locust Lolita

so no tiene su motivo de inform our nose

so no tiene su motivo de inform our nose donde vamos a llegar despues de muchos

donde vamos a llegar despues de muchos

donde vamos a llegar despues de muchos tempos

in Kazama Kawa Salada

in Kazama Kawa Salada es un Barco que kiva trabajar otra vez

es un Barco que kiva trabajar otra vez

es un Barco que kiva trabajar otra vez de la energía solar y no con el

de la energía solar y no con el

de la energía solar y no con el combustible con la idea de de mejorar

combustible con la idea de de mejorar

combustible con la idea de de mejorar una buena conservación de nuestro

una buena conservación de nuestro

una buena conservación de nuestro ambiente

ambiente

ambiente [Music]

[Music]

[Music] [Applause]

there’s so many people that worked on

there’s so many people that worked on this boat and it’s amazing for me to

this boat and it’s amazing for me to

this boat and it’s amazing for me to have Lewis and ghido and dahveed and

have Lewis and ghido and dahveed and

have Lewis and ghido and dahveed and Pasquale and those people that you saw

Pasquale and those people that you saw

Pasquale and those people that you saw in the video here in the room today so

in the video here in the room today so

in the video here in the room today so we put the boat in the water everything

we put the boat in the water everything

we put the boat in the water everything worked and then we had a dilemma how do

worked and then we had a dilemma how do

worked and then we had a dilemma how do we get the boat from su cumbias in the

we get the boat from su cumbias in the

we get the boat from su cumbias in the north of the ecuadorian amazon to a chor

north of the ecuadorian amazon to a chor

north of the ecuadorian amazon to a chor territory in the south of the Ecuadorian

territory in the south of the Ecuadorian

territory in the south of the Ecuadorian Amazon and we decided to go the River

Amazon and we decided to go the River

Amazon and we decided to go the River route we decided to take an 1800

route we decided to take an 1800

route we decided to take an 1800 kilometer trip down through Peru and

kilometer trip down through Peru and

kilometer trip down through Peru and back up into Ecuador in order to extend

back up into Ecuador in order to extend

back up into Ecuador in order to extend this dream to a wider public so we set

this dream to a wider public so we set

this dream to a wider public so we set off on March 28th of this year we camped

off on March 28th of this year we camped

off on March 28th of this year we camped in beaches along the way we built a

in beaches along the way we built a

in beaches along the way we built a support boat that was also a hundred

support boat that was also a hundred

support boat that was also a hundred percent solar that was that went behind

percent solar that was that went behind

percent solar that was that went behind our boat just in case there were any

our boat just in case there were any

our boat just in case there were any emergencies we never had to to use it

emergencies we never had to to use it

emergencies we never had to to use it which was great but it was it was an

which was great but it was it was an

which was great but it was it was an amazing adventure I think the part about

amazing adventure I think the part about

amazing adventure I think the part about it but I liked the most was waking up

it but I liked the most was waking up

it but I liked the most was waking up every morning and not knowing where we

every morning and not knowing where we

every morning and not knowing where we were gonna sleep that night and knowing

were gonna sleep that night and knowing

were gonna sleep that night and knowing that you can have a real adventure in

that you can have a real adventure in

that you can have a real adventure in the year 2017 it was also really

the year 2017 it was also really

the year 2017 it was also really difficult there was you know all the

difficult there was you know all the

difficult there was you know all the technical difficulties we broke

technical difficulties we broke

technical difficulties we broke propellers on by hitting rocks we had

propellers on by hitting rocks we had

propellers on by hitting rocks we had really cloudy days where we couldn’t

really cloudy days where we couldn’t

really cloudy days where we couldn’t advanced very far we had all the

advanced very far we had all the

advanced very far we had all the interpersonal dynamics that you can

interpersonal dynamics that you can

interpersonal dynamics that you can imagine with nine men on a very

imagine with nine men on a very

imagine with nine men on a very relatively small boat trying to make

relatively small boat trying to make

relatively small boat trying to make decisions together but it was an amazing

decisions together but it was an amazing

decisions together but it was an amazing group there were nine people there were

group there were nine people there were

group there were nine people there were two of our one gringo a German – two

two of our one gringo a German – two

two of our one gringo a German – two Quechua one from the Amazon and one from

Quechua one from the Amazon and one from

Quechua one from the Amazon and one from the Sierra and three Keith Daniels and I

the Sierra and three Keith Daniels and I

the Sierra and three Keith Daniels and I think we made a pretty good team and we

think we made a pretty good team and we

think we made a pretty good team and we we made it to – out to our territory

we made it to – out to our territory

we made it to – out to our territory stopping along the way and showing the

stopping along the way and showing the

stopping along the way and showing the boat along the way and connecting with

boat along the way and connecting with

boat along the way and connecting with communities along the way and also

communities along the way and also

communities along the way and also seeing the state of the Amazon today

seeing the state of the Amazon today

seeing the state of the Amazon today which was I think pretty devastating for

which was I think pretty devastating for

which was I think pretty devastating for all of us we expected to see this

all of us we expected to see this

all of us we expected to see this massive beautiful intact forest and

massive beautiful intact forest and

massive beautiful intact forest and found instead an absolutely devastated

found instead an absolutely devastated

found instead an absolutely devastated contaminated polluted Amazon with very

contaminated polluted Amazon with very

contaminated polluted Amazon with very few forest like a to our territory like

few forest like a to our territory like

few forest like a to our territory like the one that we were bringing the boat

the one that we were bringing the boat

the one that we were bringing the boat to here we are

to here we are

to here we are the night before the arrival celebrating

the night before the arrival celebrating

the night before the arrival celebrating and when we made it to our territory my

and when we made it to our territory my

and when we made it to our territory my my daughter was there waiting for me

my daughter was there waiting for me

my daughter was there waiting for me along with my wife which I which I

along with my wife which I which I

along with my wife which I which I didn’t know I saw them in the binoculars

didn’t know I saw them in the binoculars

didn’t know I saw them in the binoculars as we as we approached and it was one of

as we as we approached and it was one of

as we as we approached and it was one of the more exciting moments of my life to

the more exciting moments of my life to

the more exciting moments of my life to to see them and to get to share this

to see them and to get to share this

to see them and to get to share this dream with them and I’ll always remember

dream with them and I’ll always remember

dream with them and I’ll always remember being in the HR community after arriving

being in the HR community after arriving

being in the HR community after arriving and seen my daughter play with the with

and seen my daughter play with the with

and seen my daughter play with the with the odd to our kids and play completely

the odd to our kids and play completely

the odd to our kids and play completely naturally no problems there is no us and

naturally no problems there is no us and

naturally no problems there is no us and them to her and that was really powerful

them to her and that was really powerful

them to her and that was really powerful for me to see that that there was no

for me to see that that there was no

for me to see that that there was no that this divided that I thought existed

that this divided that I thought existed

that this divided that I thought existed might not exist

so I think that’s the central message

so I think that’s the central message that I’ve taken from this project and

that I’ve taken from this project and

that I’ve taken from this project and that I want to try to share with you

that I want to try to share with you

that I want to try to share with you we’ve built this kata that’s been shared

we’ve built this kata that’s been shared

we’ve built this kata that’s been shared across cultures between indigenous

across cultures between indigenous

across cultures between indigenous people between universities between

people between universities between

people between universities between companies between gringos between all

companies between gringos between all

companies between gringos between all these different people who have a dream

these different people who have a dream

these different people who have a dream and have made it real what I would I

and have made it real what I would I

and have made it real what I would I take from this dream and what I think is

take from this dream and what I think is

take from this dream and what I think is the most powerful thing that I’ve

the most powerful thing that I’ve

the most powerful thing that I’ve learned is that

you remember in the beginning when I

you remember in the beginning when I said how cata is a short word that

said how cata is a short word that

said how cata is a short word that doesn’t have a definition in in other

doesn’t have a definition in in other

doesn’t have a definition in in other languages as I’ve been preparing for

languages as I’ve been preparing for

languages as I’ve been preparing for this for this talk I’ve been thinking

this for this talk I’ve been thinking

this for this talk I’ve been thinking and thinking a lot about that and I

and thinking a lot about that and I

and thinking a lot about that and I realized that that’s actually not true

realized that that’s actually not true

realized that that’s actually not true that when we speak we have we use

that when we speak we have we use

that when we speak we have we use concepts similar taqaddas all the time

concepts similar taqaddas all the time

concepts similar taqaddas all the time like you might say I had a feeling that

like you might say I had a feeling that

like you might say I had a feeling that might happen or I had an inkling that

might happen or I had an inkling that

might happen or I had an inkling that might have and I had an intuition that

might have and I had an intuition that

might have and I had an intuition that might happen I think those are the exact

might happen I think those are the exact

might happen I think those are the exact same way those are the exact same idea

same way those are the exact same idea

same way those are the exact same idea so this idea that indigenous people are

so this idea that indigenous people are

so this idea that indigenous people are tapped into this secret source of

tapped into this secret source of

tapped into this secret source of knowledge I’ve actually realized it’s

knowledge I’ve actually realized it’s

knowledge I’ve actually realized it’s kind of an illusion and that we all have

kind of an illusion and that we all have

kind of an illusion and that we all have access to that same knowledge I think

access to that same knowledge I think

access to that same knowledge I think that the difference might be more like

that the difference might be more like

that the difference might be more like we we have the same hardware we just

we we have the same hardware we just

we we have the same hardware we just have different software and we’ve been

have different software and we’ve been

have different software and we’ve been trained for years and years and years to

trained for years and years and years to

trained for years and years and years to think that with our software we’re not

think that with our software we’re not

think that with our software we’re not capable of tapping into this knowledge

capable of tapping into this knowledge

capable of tapping into this knowledge in this wisdom and I have learned that I

in this wisdom and I have learned that I

in this wisdom and I have learned that I think I think we can I think all of you

think I think we can I think all of you

think I think we can I think all of you can I think that all of us contain

can I think that all of us contain

can I think that all of us contain multitudes I think all of us are maps to

multitudes I think all of us are maps to

multitudes I think all of us are maps to the stars thank you

the stars thank you

the stars thank you [Applause]

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