Is the observation of our dreams the key to achieve them? | Mattia Fiumani | TEDxMatosinhos

so my presentation will be in English

so my presentation will be in English and I apologize if anybody’s not gonna

and I apologize if anybody’s not gonna

and I apologize if anybody’s not gonna understand something but so the title of

understand something but so the title of

understand something but so the title of this talk is the observation of our

this talk is the observation of our

this talk is the observation of our dreams the key to achieve them I’m an

dreams the key to achieve them I’m an

dreams the key to achieve them I’m an architect

architect

architect and I work in feet and as my name is

and I work in feet and as my name is

and I work in feet and as my name is Matias you my name by the way and what I

Matias you my name by the way and what I

Matias you my name by the way and what I was studying architecture sketching was

was studying architecture sketching was

was studying architecture sketching was a big deal every every teacher would

a big deal every every teacher would

a big deal every every teacher would encourage us to just catch as much as we

encourage us to just catch as much as we

encourage us to just catch as much as we could

could

could it was a way to find out about space to

it was a way to find out about space to

it was a way to find out about space to find out about buildings architecture

find out about buildings architecture

find out about buildings architecture and whatever was surrounding us there

and whatever was surrounding us there

and whatever was surrounding us there was something about sketching there was

was something about sketching there was

was something about sketching there was really really motivating for a student

really really motivating for a student

really really motivating for a student because while sketching you would be

because while sketching you would be

because while sketching you would be able to basically do what Picasso was

able to basically do what Picasso was

able to basically do what Picasso was saying you pick up a brush and you start

saying you pick up a brush and you start

saying you pick up a brush and you start getting inspired theoretically so

getting inspired theoretically so

getting inspired theoretically so basically what’s happening is that

basically what’s happening is that

basically what’s happening is that there’s this there’s something in front

there’s this there’s something in front

there’s this there’s something in front of you and from being just an observer

of you and from being just an observer

of you and from being just an observer passing by you become a careful observer

passing by you become a careful observer

passing by you become a careful observer so there is there is something that it’s

so there is there is something that it’s

so there is there is something that it’s happening by sketching which is a bit

happening by sketching which is a bit

happening by sketching which is a bit like our our major clue here in this

like our our major clue here in this

like our our major clue here in this talk because in sketching there is time

talk because in sketching there is time

talk because in sketching there is time during the time without with sketching

during the time without with sketching

during the time without with sketching there is a process that gets acted and

there is a process that gets acted and

there is a process that gets acted and it’s a process of appropriation of a

it’s a process of appropriation of a

it’s a process of appropriation of a space so while we digest this space by

space so while we digest this space by

space so while we digest this space by sketching it it’s not just a meditative

sketching it it’s not just a meditative

sketching it it’s not just a meditative kind of process but it’s also something

kind of process but it’s also something

kind of process but it’s also something that that make allows us to walk a path

that that make allows us to walk a path

that that make allows us to walk a path this pathway is the pathway that

this pathway is the pathway that

this pathway is the pathway that actually was already worked by the

actually was already worked by the

actually was already worked by the author of the of the final of the the

author of the of the final of the the

author of the of the final of the the result the whisk

the architect designer of creator of any

the architect designer of creator of any kind of place that we’re sketching

kind of place that we’re sketching

kind of place that we’re sketching worked a special pathway this pathway to

worked a special pathway this pathway to

worked a special pathway this pathway to came from an idea to a final result this

came from an idea to a final result this

came from an idea to a final result this pathway we do exactly the same thing but

pathway we do exactly the same thing but

pathway we do exactly the same thing but we work it backwards

we work it backwards

we work it backwards so we start from the final image and we

so we start from the final image and we

so we start from the final image and we go back to an idea as we practice we

go back to an idea as we practice we

go back to an idea as we practice we might find out that our sketch actually

might find out that our sketch actually

might find out that our sketch actually looks a lot like what they the architect

looks a lot like what they the architect

looks a lot like what they the architect or the designer had in his mind before

or the designer had in his mind before

or the designer had in his mind before starting the whole process of designing

so there is something that is called

so there is something that is called synthesis that belongs to the sketching

synthesis that belongs to the sketching

synthesis that belongs to the sketching and during our synthesis we pick up a

and during our synthesis we pick up a

and during our synthesis we pick up a number of elements that we choose in a

number of elements that we choose in a

number of elements that we choose in a space we select them we isolate them and

space we select them we isolate them and

space we select them we isolate them and we recompose them on a sheet of paper we

we recompose them on a sheet of paper we

we recompose them on a sheet of paper we might find out that something is more

might find out that something is more

might find out that something is more interesting as something else but that

interesting as something else but that

interesting as something else but that doesn’t really matter because maybe

doesn’t really matter because maybe

doesn’t really matter because maybe there was the whole idea at the

there was the whole idea at the

there was the whole idea at the beginning was trying to put something

beginning was trying to put something

beginning was trying to put something somewhere and not really care about the

somewhere and not really care about the

somewhere and not really care about the context maybe not we might find out that

context maybe not we might find out that

context maybe not we might find out that what we like about a place it’s

what we like about a place it’s

what we like about a place it’s something else but the important thing

something else but the important thing

something else but the important thing really is that we become first row

really is that we become first row

really is that we become first row spectators of something and and and what

spectators of something and and and what

spectators of something and and and what we look at it’s at the start as is the

we look at it’s at the start as is the

we look at it’s at the start as is the it’s an idea coming to life so a bunch

it’s an idea coming to life so a bunch

it’s an idea coming to life so a bunch of sketches I did well as I was a

of sketches I did well as I was a

of sketches I did well as I was a student and in different places and

student and in different places and

student and in different places and travelling was was something that

travelling was was something that

travelling was was something that belonged to me as a uni I started in

belonged to me as a uni I started in

belonged to me as a uni I started in Australia went on to Scotland and

Australia went on to Scotland and

Australia went on to Scotland and finished in Europe and sketching was a

finished in Europe and sketching was a

finished in Europe and sketching was a way to keep track of my journeys more

way to keep track of my journeys more

way to keep track of my journeys more than photography actually because

than photography actually because

than photography actually because photography is an instant kind of visual

photography is an instant kind of visual

photography is an instant kind of visual tool it’s something that’s belonging

tool it’s something that’s belonging

tool it’s something that’s belonging bringing us like a very immediate and

bringing us like a very immediate and

bringing us like a very immediate and vivid memory but sketching has a richer

vivid memory but sketching has a richer

vivid memory but sketching has a richer kind of it’s more of a rich richer

kind of it’s more of a rich richer

kind of it’s more of a rich richer experience richer memory

experience richer memory

experience richer memory because we see a place changing under

because we see a place changing under

because we see a place changing under light and the different crowd conditions

light and the different crowd conditions

light and the different crowd conditions and we kind of experience it in

and we kind of experience it in

and we kind of experience it in different moments and stages of his life

different moments and stages of his life

different moments and stages of his life so this is the path the Soul bus was

so this is the path the Soul bus was

so this is the path the Soul bus was talking about because really design is

talking about because really design is

talking about because really design is that is a process of thinking and as I

that is a process of thinking and as I

that is a process of thinking and as I was saying working it backwards is

was saying working it backwards is

was saying working it backwards is something that make us closer to the

something that make us closer to the

something that make us closer to the initial idea so all this to say that I

initial idea so all this to say that I

initial idea so all this to say that I want to go somewhere actually with you

want to go somewhere actually with you

want to go somewhere actually with you but sketching is it’s probably what’s

but sketching is it’s probably what’s

but sketching is it’s probably what’s gonna take us across on my final year at

gonna take us across on my final year at

gonna take us across on my final year at school I run into a very special book

school I run into a very special book

school I run into a very special book called the book of the dreams by

called the book of the dreams by

called the book of the dreams by Federico Fellini at that time a

Federico Fellini at that time a

Federico Fellini at that time a sketching had become some kind of

sketching had become some kind of

sketching had become some kind of process for me like something else I was

process for me like something else I was

process for me like something else I was doing basically on it almost on a daily

doing basically on it almost on a daily

doing basically on it almost on a daily basis and sketches by Fellini had a very

basis and sketches by Fellini had a very

basis and sketches by Fellini had a very different kind of look of course

different kind of look of course

different kind of look of course the sketches that Fellini would make

the sketches that Fellini would make

the sketches that Fellini would make well a collage of different places and

well a collage of different places and

well a collage of different places and spaces and conditions and situations

spaces and conditions and situations

spaces and conditions and situations vignettes Tolkien dialogues people move

vignettes Tolkien dialogues people move

vignettes Tolkien dialogues people move in the color there was a life inside the

in the color there was a life inside the

in the color there was a life inside the sketches that I was looking at so the

sketches that I was looking at so the

sketches that I was looking at so the pattern of information they had choose

pattern of information they had choose

pattern of information they had choose to put together in his sketches was

to put together in his sketches was

to put together in his sketches was telling me something about the

telling me something about the

telling me something about the importance of of the idea being a being

importance of of the idea being a being

importance of of the idea being a being more about an event filling in his

more about an event filling in his

more about an event filling in his dreams actually had the idea of I had

dreams actually had the idea of I had

dreams actually had the idea of I had the idea that was drawing came from his

the idea that was drawing came from his

the idea that was drawing came from his dreams and quite obviously his dreams

dreams and quite obviously his dreams

dreams and quite obviously his dreams where I were the muse would come and

where I were the muse would come and

where I were the muse would come and visit him so I realized well if you find

visit him so I realized well if you find

visit him so I realized well if you find this idea not because it’s responding to

this idea not because it’s responding to

this idea not because it’s responding to space then probably is because the muse

space then probably is because the muse

space then probably is because the muse it’s instead is that so maybe the muse

it’s instead is that so maybe the muse

it’s instead is that so maybe the muse is a mirror and Fellini is looking at

is a mirror and Fellini is looking at

is a mirror and Fellini is looking at his muse or maybe it’s looking at

his muse or maybe it’s looking at

his muse or maybe it’s looking at himself

himself

himself Fellini maybe eats his own meals so I

Fellini maybe eats his own meals so I

Fellini maybe eats his own meals so I started sketching my dreams and what I

started sketching my dreams and what I

started sketching my dreams and what I was doing this I realized that sketching

was doing this I realized that sketching

was doing this I realized that sketching dreams is not so easy with

dreams is not so easy with

dreams is not so easy with start with the patches of dreams and how

start with the patches of dreams and how

start with the patches of dreams and how do I recollect the whole dream so we

do I recollect the whole dream so we

do I recollect the whole dream so we start building bridges and we stir rekon

start building bridges and we stir rekon

start building bridges and we stir rekon netting whatever we remember of dreams

netting whatever we remember of dreams

netting whatever we remember of dreams and at that time I was working doing my

and at that time I was working doing my

and at that time I was working doing my final year at uni I was working as a

final year at uni I was working as a

final year at uni I was working as a projectionist a bunch of movies because

projectionist a bunch of movies because

projectionist a bunch of movies because I was working in a cinema and when you

I was working in a cinema and when you

I was working in a cinema and when you watch it seen at movies from inside the

watch it seen at movies from inside the

watch it seen at movies from inside the projection is booth you have a very

projection is booth you have a very

projection is booth you have a very dream experience first of all the

dream experience first of all the

dream experience first of all the projection booth is acoustic proof so

projection booth is acoustic proof so

projection booth is acoustic proof so you don’t hear the sound you only see

you don’t hear the sound you only see

you don’t hear the sound you only see the images through a little piece of

the images through a little piece of

the images through a little piece of glass and also you watch the same movie

glass and also you watch the same movie

glass and also you watch the same movie more than once during the day so the non

more than once during the day so the non

more than once during the day so the non chronological order the lack of sound

chronological order the lack of sound

chronological order the lack of sound started building in my head the idea of

started building in my head the idea of

started building in my head the idea of cinema as a dream science something

cinema as a dream science something

cinema as a dream science something between architecture and psychology or

between architecture and psychology or

between architecture and psychology or psych analysis I don’t know exactly what

psych analysis I don’t know exactly what

psych analysis I don’t know exactly what but I went on looking at cinema as my

but I went on looking at cinema as my

but I went on looking at cinema as my major interest so I went to Berlin

major interest so I went to Berlin

major interest so I went to Berlin worked as a set designer and I kept

worked as a set designer and I kept

worked as a set designer and I kept looking at my dreams during that time

looking at my dreams during that time

looking at my dreams during that time and I realized that there is a process

and I realized that there is a process

and I realized that there is a process that it’s possible so as I left beyond

that it’s possible so as I left beyond

that it’s possible so as I left beyond behind me the sketching is the first

behind me the sketching is the first

behind me the sketching is the first kind of inspiration I looked at writing

kind of inspiration I looked at writing

kind of inspiration I looked at writing dreams and audio recording dreams after

dreams and audio recording dreams after

dreams and audio recording dreams after the audio recordings I would sketch

the audio recordings I would sketch

the audio recordings I would sketch whatever came out of it this is a major

whatever came out of it this is a major

whatever came out of it this is a major championship by the way of table soccer

like war cup of table soccer with a

like war cup of table soccer with a thousand players I had a dream like this

thousand players I had a dream like this

thousand players I had a dream like this and I recorded it and then it sketched

and I recorded it and then it sketched

and I recorded it and then it sketched it so I would go to bed leave my phone

it so I would go to bed leave my phone

it so I would go to bed leave my phone on the bedside table and then record

on the bedside table and then record

on the bedside table and then record dream so while what I was awake and

dream so while what I was awake and

dream so while what I was awake and sometimes I would even forget that I had

sometimes I would even forget that I had

sometimes I would even forget that I had recorded something and I had like a 30

recorded something and I had like a 30

recorded something and I had like a 30 minutes recording on my phone where I

minutes recording on my phone where I

minutes recording on my phone where I was like talking for to me it was living

was like talking for to me it was living

was like talking for to me it was living for 28 but anyway something came out of

for 28 but anyway something came out of

for 28 but anyway something came out of it

it

it I realized that I had built something in

I realized that I had built something in

I realized that I had built something in my head like a little machine basically

my head like a little machine basically

my head like a little machine basically something that allowed me to remember

something that allowed me to remember

something that allowed me to remember dreams I realized this because I was at

dreams I realized this because I was at

dreams I realized this because I was at the time working a TV station where I

the time working a TV station where I

the time working a TV station where I only had 15 minutes rest between breaks

only had 15 minutes rest between breaks

only had 15 minutes rest between breaks it was a live TV so a life TV’s we have

it was a live TV so a life TV’s we have

it was a live TV so a life TV’s we have to shop times and you you can’t

to shop times and you you can’t

to shop times and you you can’t basically mess up and you have very

basically mess up and you have very

basically mess up and you have very regular breaks I’d sleep during this

regular breaks I’d sleep during this

regular breaks I’d sleep during this breaks and basically had during the

breaks and basically had during the

breaks and basically had during the power naps I realized that every time I

power naps I realized that every time I

power naps I realized that every time I was closing my eyes I wake up and the

was closing my eyes I wake up and the

was closing my eyes I wake up and the lucid dreaming left something in my head

lucid dreaming left something in my head

lucid dreaming left something in my head so it negocio by the way is not

so it negocio by the way is not

so it negocio by the way is not something that you know I made as a tool

something that you know I made as a tool

something that you know I made as a tool like Salvador Dali I mean of course

like Salvador Dali I mean of course

like Salvador Dali I mean of course every lot of creatives do it but

every lot of creatives do it but

every lot of creatives do it but historically historically Salvador Dali

historically historically Salvador Dali

historically historically Salvador Dali wouldn’t pick up a brush before staying

wouldn’t pick up a brush before staying

wouldn’t pick up a brush before staying awake for three days

awake for three days

awake for three days orbital when I would take long carriage

orbital when I would take long carriage

orbital when I would take long carriage rides around Vienna and and during his

rides around Vienna and and during his

rides around Vienna and and during his dreams read notes and whatever and The

dreams read notes and whatever and The

dreams read notes and whatever and The Beat Generation poets with the dream

Beat Generation poets with the dream

Beat Generation poets with the dream machine so there was there was something

machine so there was there was something

machine so there was there was something that within dreams attracted me and and

that within dreams attracted me and and

that within dreams attracted me and and I rely and I decided to make this as a

I rely and I decided to make this as a

I rely and I decided to make this as a tool one interesting thing do you know

tool one interesting thing do you know

tool one interesting thing do you know this process is that I realized a lot of

this process is that I realized a lot of

this process is that I realized a lot of things actually they happen in your

things actually they happen in your

things actually they happen in your dreams happen with on a regular basis

dreams happen with on a regular basis

dreams happen with on a regular basis you start meeting people you start

you start meeting people you start

you start meeting people you start seeing places you start being places

seeing places you start being places

seeing places you start being places more than once every time is a different

more than once every time is a different

more than once every time is a different person it’s a different condition so

person it’s a different condition so

person it’s a different condition so sketching came back as a tool to know a

sketching came back as a tool to know a

sketching came back as a tool to know a place because as you as you design as

place because as you as you design as

place because as you as you design as you sketch a dream as you make a

you sketch a dream as you make a

you sketch a dream as you make a synthesis of the dream you realize that

synthesis of the dream you realize that

synthesis of the dream you realize that there is there is something that changes

there is there is something that changes

there is there is something that changes within the dream and mmm there was one

within the dream and mmm there was one

within the dream and mmm there was one place more recurrent than the others

place more recurrent than the others

place more recurrent than the others that would come back and that place was

that would come back and that place was

that would come back and that place was a collection of spaces that

a collection of spaces that

a collection of spaces that I had seen before in films I wasn’t

I had seen before in films I wasn’t

I had seen before in films I wasn’t really sure what it was sometimes it

really sure what it was sometimes it

really sure what it was sometimes it would be with their fans or some other

would be with their fans or some other

would be with their fans or some other time it would be a saxophone some other

time it would be a saxophone some other

time it would be a saxophone some other times there will be people in dancing

times there will be people in dancing

times there will be people in dancing was a classy and dogs and stuff I mean

was a classy and dogs and stuff I mean

was a classy and dogs and stuff I mean it’s like a dream basically but

it’s like a dream basically but

it’s like a dream basically but basically what happens in what happened

basically what happens in what happened

basically what happens in what happened in that dream is that what happened in

in that dream is that what happened in

in that dream is that what happened in that dream is that I was pretty sure

that dream is that I was pretty sure

that dream is that I was pretty sure about that city being Los Angeles I

about that city being Los Angeles I

about that city being Los Angeles I never been in Los Angeles today I know

never been in Los Angeles today I know

never been in Los Angeles today I know wall design just looked like but I kind

wall design just looked like but I kind

wall design just looked like but I kind of knew it was there basically so there

of knew it was there basically so there

of knew it was there basically so there is something about dreams you’re both

is something about dreams you’re both

is something about dreams you’re both the author and the audience at the same

the author and the audience at the same

the author and the audience at the same time so there are things you just know

after that I decided when I quit my job

after that I decided when I quit my job at a TV station I said well let’s do

at a TV station I said well let’s do

at a TV station I said well let’s do something crazy let’s just something

something crazy let’s just something

something crazy let’s just something that people usually don’t do foot trick

that people usually don’t do foot trick

that people usually don’t do foot trick like children let’s go to Los Angeles so

like children let’s go to Los Angeles so

like children let’s go to Los Angeles so I decided to go to Los Angeles and I

I decided to go to Los Angeles and I

I decided to go to Los Angeles and I didn’t know anybody in Los Angeles I

didn’t know anybody in Los Angeles I

didn’t know anybody in Los Angeles I only the friend she calls me for a week

only the friend she calls me for a week

only the friend she calls me for a week and then she said well now you’re on

and then she said well now you’re on

and then she said well now you’re on your own and I didn’t have any plans

your own and I didn’t have any plans

your own and I didn’t have any plans right away as like a series of

right away as like a series of

right away as like a series of coincidences took place i met a relative

coincidences took place i met a relative

coincidences took place i met a relative ID i know I hadn’t run in Los Angeles he

ID i know I hadn’t run in Los Angeles he

ID i know I hadn’t run in Los Angeles he was working in film and I met bunch of

was working in film and I met bunch of

was working in film and I met bunch of great people that became really close

great people that became really close

great people that became really close friends and I had opportunities like

friends and I had opportunities like

friends and I had opportunities like filming the landing on the moon and

filming the landing on the moon and

filming the landing on the moon and stuff I really didn’t know I I never had

stuff I really didn’t know I I never had

stuff I really didn’t know I I never had those opportunities before and I

those opportunities before and I

those opportunities before and I happened in a very short time so I said

happened in a very short time so I said

happened in a very short time so I said okay that’s what happens when you follow

okay that’s what happens when you follow

okay that’s what happens when you follow your dream that maybe coincidences take

your dream that maybe coincidences take

your dream that maybe coincidences take place it’s not just about following your

place it’s not just about following your

place it’s not just about following your dreams I think it’s about listening to

dreams I think it’s about listening to

dreams I think it’s about listening to your dreams and wiring your

your dreams and wiring your

your dreams and wiring your consciousness with your unconscious

consciousness with your unconscious

consciousness with your unconscious subconscious then maybe allows you to be

subconscious then maybe allows you to be

subconscious then maybe allows you to be more allows you to be more careful about

more allows you to be more careful about

more allows you to be more careful about something that happens in your head at

something that happens in your head at

something that happens in your head at night that pushes you into a different

night that pushes you into a different

night that pushes you into a different kind of dimension there is about trying

kind of dimension there is about trying

kind of dimension there is about trying to make some

to make some

to make some in real so that’s a quote that I thought

in real so that’s a quote that I thought

in real so that’s a quote that I thought was interesting because the exactly the

was interesting because the exactly the

was interesting because the exactly the exactly same thing happened while I’m

exactly same thing happened while I’m

exactly same thing happened while I’m moving to Los Angeles but there was

moving to Los Angeles but there was

moving to Los Angeles but there was there was something else that happened

there was something else that happened

there was something else that happened thing actually that was interesting is

thing actually that was interesting is

thing actually that was interesting is that when you when you are restricted in

that when you when you are restricted in

that when you when you are restricted in life I had these things you want to do

life I had these things you want to do

life I had these things you want to do but you can really do them or maybe

but you can really do them or maybe

but you can really do them or maybe other things that you think could be

other things that you think could be

other things that you think could be attractive to you but you can’t don’t

attractive to you but you can’t don’t

attractive to you but you can’t don’t have the conditions to go across and do

have the conditions to go across and do

have the conditions to go across and do them those impulses they release at

them those impulses they release at

them those impulses they release at night they release into your dream space

night they release into your dream space

night they release into your dream space and they they warp they basically make

and they they warp they basically make

and they they warp they basically make you think that you’re accomplished and

you think that you’re accomplished and

you think that you’re accomplished and that something is happening that it’s

that something is happening that it’s

that something is happening that it’s kind of wrapped in your life together

kind of wrapped in your life together

kind of wrapped in your life together when you start listening to your dreams

when you start listening to your dreams

when you start listening to your dreams when you start becoming aware of your

when you start becoming aware of your

when you start becoming aware of your dreams conscious about your dreams I can

dreams conscious about your dreams I can

dreams conscious about your dreams I can do works so that past day I was talking

do works so that past day I was talking

do works so that past day I was talking about before it’s actually possible with

about before it’s actually possible with

about before it’s actually possible with dreams I believe because when you sketch

dreams I believe because when you sketch

dreams I believe because when you sketch something and you’re looking at the

something and you’re looking at the

something and you’re looking at the final image and you try to walk back to

final image and you try to walk back to

final image and you try to walk back to an idea where dreams is something like

an idea where dreams is something like

an idea where dreams is something like an idea and you look at it and you work

an idea and you look at it and you work

an idea and you look at it and you work your way backwards and you write it

your way backwards and you write it

your way backwards and you write it backwards and try to make it become your

backwards and try to make it become your

backwards and try to make it become your life it’s a process I think it’s just

life it’s a process I think it’s just

life it’s a process I think it’s just possible so when I was at school and my

possible so when I was at school and my

possible so when I was at school and my final year following a referendum in

final year following a referendum in

final year following a referendum in Switzerland that abolished the

Switzerland that abolished the

Switzerland that abolished the construction of minarets on mosques I

construction of minarets on mosques I

construction of minarets on mosques I decided to take a stand and make

decided to take a stand and make

decided to take a stand and make something about it and I designed a

something about it and I designed a

something about it and I designed a mosque in Switzerland so this was a

mosque in Switzerland so this was a

mosque in Switzerland so this was a challenging task because of course

challenging task because of course

challenging task because of course there’s a grid in every city and

there’s a grid in every city and

there’s a grid in every city and especially on some new cities like this

especially on some new cities like this

especially on some new cities like this one and I had a mosque the footprint of

one and I had a mosque the footprint of

one and I had a mosque the footprint of a mosque took place inside this grid

a mosque took place inside this grid

a mosque took place inside this grid what was the first challenge I received

what was the first challenge I received

what was the first challenge I received was to basically kind of fit the two

was to basically kind of fit the two

was to basically kind of fit the two things together and they said well there

things together and they said well there

things together and they said well there is an in-between space here there’s

is an in-between space here there’s

is an in-between space here there’s and of a pillow space between the two

and of a pillow space between the two

and of a pillow space between the two bodies and as from being a challenge I

bodies and as from being a challenge I

bodies and as from being a challenge I thought actually that was a very

thought actually that was a very

thought actually that was a very interesting moment because from a

interesting moment because from a

interesting moment because from a cultural point of view an architectural

cultural point of view an architectural

cultural point of view an architectural point of view the space I had a lot of

point of view the space I had a lot of

point of view the space I had a lot of power actually it had the power of

power actually it had the power of

power actually it had the power of bringing two cultures together I had the

bringing two cultures together I had the

bringing two cultures together I had the power of having very special light

power of having very special light

power of having very special light conditions and I recall this project

conditions and I recall this project

conditions and I recall this project while I was recording my dreams and I

while I was recording my dreams and I

while I was recording my dreams and I thought okay then now I’m intersecting

thought okay then now I’m intersecting

thought okay then now I’m intersecting my consciousness with my conscious what

my consciousness with my conscious what

my consciousness with my conscious what is happening is not just an intersection

is happening is not just an intersection

is happening is not just an intersection of the two I mean becoming aware of this

of the two I mean becoming aware of this

of the two I mean becoming aware of this intersection but something new is

intersection but something new is

intersection but something new is happening there is a very special ground

happening there is a very special ground

happening there is a very special ground some kind of source of endless

some kind of source of endless

some kind of source of endless possibilities from these so to wrap

possibilities from these so to wrap

possibilities from these so to wrap things up type to rest so there is

things up type to rest so there is

things up type to rest so there is something that happens while you become

something that happens while you become

something that happens while you become conscious of your dream space of your

conscious of your dream space of your

conscious of your dream space of your Oneiric space there is some kind of

Oneiric space there is some kind of

Oneiric space there is some kind of special door that divides two rooms two

special door that divides two rooms two

special door that divides two rooms two very clear rooms in your head you open

very clear rooms in your head you open

very clear rooms in your head you open the door and you dream you keep that

the door and you dream you keep that

the door and you dream you keep that door open and you become conscious of

door open and you become conscious of

door open and you become conscious of your dreams what’s happening on the

your dreams what’s happening on the

your dreams what’s happening on the other room there’s a lot of stuff in the

other room there’s a lot of stuff in the

other room there’s a lot of stuff in the room not just pretty stuff but you can

room not just pretty stuff but you can

room not just pretty stuff but you can when you sketch you can select some of

when you sketch you can select some of

when you sketch you can select some of certain elements be aware of them

certain elements be aware of them

certain elements be aware of them isolate them and bring them on the other

isolate them and bring them on the other

isolate them and bring them on the other side and make them flourish if you wish

side and make them flourish if you wish

side and make them flourish if you wish and your eyes your instinct we know what

and your eyes your instinct we know what

and your eyes your instinct we know what your eyes need then your eyes will

your eyes need then your eyes will

your eyes need then your eyes will choose those elements for you and you

choose those elements for you and you

choose those elements for you and you always have a blank space a little piece

always have a blank space a little piece

always have a blank space a little piece of white paper in your life where you

of white paper in your life where you

of white paper in your life where you can still take those elements put them

can still take those elements put them

can still take those elements put them across recompose them and maybe you’ll

across recompose them and maybe you’ll

across recompose them and maybe you’ll get lucky thank you

get lucky thank you

get lucky thank you you