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Is rock music really getting darker? | Ashot Mansuryan | TEDxYouth@ISPrague


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[Music] Here I am rock you like a hurricane

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you know I just love this song it’s so

you know I just love this song it’s so loud and punchy my grandma thinks it

loud and punchy my grandma thinks it

loud and punchy my grandma thinks it sucks for her is just a mixture of angry

sucks for her is just a mixture of angry

sucks for her is just a mixture of angry rant and loud noise well what about you

rant and loud noise well what about you

rant and loud noise well what about you let me ask you a question how many here

let me ask you a question how many here

let me ask you a question how many here like pop music okay and and how many

like pop music okay and and how many

like pop music okay and and how many here dislike hard rock punk that kind of

here dislike hard rock punk that kind of

here dislike hard rock punk that kind of music well I’ve talked to a lot of

music well I’ve talked to a lot of

music well I’ve talked to a lot of people who don’t like this kind of music

people who don’t like this kind of music

people who don’t like this kind of music and they usually give me the same two

and they usually give me the same two

and they usually give me the same two reasons as to why the first reason they

reasons as to why the first reason they

reasons as to why the first reason they give me is that rock music sounds like

give me is that rock music sounds like

give me is that rock music sounds like noise and the second one they give me is

noise and the second one they give me is

noise and the second one they give me is that rock songs have depressing sad and

that rock songs have depressing sad and

that rock songs have depressing sad and angry lyrics and well while if you think

angry lyrics and well while if you think

angry lyrics and well while if you think that a type of music sounds like noise

that a type of music sounds like noise

that a type of music sounds like noise you can just not listen to it with words

you can just not listen to it with words

you can just not listen to it with words it’s different because words affect our

it’s different because words affect our

it’s different because words affect our understanding and the way we think now I

understanding and the way we think now I

understanding and the way we think now I see some adults in the room and I want

see some adults in the room and I want

see some adults in the room and I want to ask you how many here have enjoyed

to ask you how many here have enjoyed

to ask you how many here have enjoyed listening to rock music in their youth

listening to rock music in their youth

listening to rock music in their youth Yeah right so would you say that rock

Yeah right so would you say that rock

Yeah right so would you say that rock music of your time sounded dark or

music of your time sounded dark or

music of your time sounded dark or aggressive or angry yes no maybe it

aggressive or angry yes no maybe it

aggressive or angry yes no maybe it depends on who you listen to so if you

depends on who you listen to so if you

depends on who you listen to so if you listen to the music off let’s say Eric

listen to the music off let’s say Eric

listen to the music off let’s say Eric Clapton or the Rolling Stones probably

Clapton or the Rolling Stones probably

Clapton or the Rolling Stones probably wouldn’t call it dark but maybe if you

wouldn’t call it dark but maybe if you

wouldn’t call it dark but maybe if you listen to the music off let’s say ac/dc

listen to the music off let’s say ac/dc

listen to the music off let’s say ac/dc or Black Sabbath or maybe even some of

or Black Sabbath or maybe even some of

or Black Sabbath or maybe even some of the newer stuff

you probably would and some people

you probably would and some people actually believe that rock music has

actually believe that rock music has

actually believe that rock music has been getting darker as it was

been getting darker as it was

been getting darker as it was progressing and some rock musicians are

progressing and some rock musicians are

progressing and some rock musicians are actually blamed for crimes done by their

actually blamed for crimes done by their

actually blamed for crimes done by their fans because according to the court

fans because according to the court

fans because according to the court their licks was provoking and violent

their licks was provoking and violent

their licks was provoking and violent the most famous of this is the Colombian

the most famous of this is the Colombian

the most famous of this is the Colombian high school shooting that was blamed on

high school shooting that was blamed on

high school shooting that was blamed on the rock artist Marilyn Manson for

the rock artist Marilyn Manson for

the rock artist Marilyn Manson for violent lyrics and rock musicians also

violent lyrics and rock musicians also

violent lyrics and rock musicians also sometimes was blamed for suicides

sometimes was blamed for suicides

sometimes was blamed for suicides we know that the suicide rate has

we know that the suicide rate has

we know that the suicide rate has increased by 23 percent since 1999 so is

increased by 23 percent since 1999 so is

increased by 23 percent since 1999 so is it true it’s rock music actually getting

it true it’s rock music actually getting

it true it’s rock music actually getting darker well last year when I was start

darker well last year when I was start

darker well last year when I was start working on my linguistic project I asked

working on my linguistic project I asked

working on my linguistic project I asked this question and it took me a very long

this question and it took me a very long

this question and it took me a very long time to find a methodology to answer it

time to find a methodology to answer it

time to find a methodology to answer it but when I did it felt like a hard rock

but when I did it felt like a hard rock

but when I did it felt like a hard rock was lifted from my back well pause aside

was lifted from my back well pause aside

was lifted from my back well pause aside what I finally decided to do in order to

what I finally decided to do in order to

what I finally decided to do in order to answer this question was to create four

answer this question was to create four

answer this question was to create four documents

documents

documents 70s 80s 90s and nowadays each

70s 80s 90s and nowadays each

70s 80s 90s and nowadays each representing one decade obviously and

representing one decade obviously and

representing one decade obviously and nowadays being anything from 2000 to

nowadays being anything from 2000 to

nowadays being anything from 2000 to 2017 then what I did was to go to Google

2017 then what I did was to go to Google

2017 then what I did was to go to Google Play and search for the top 200 rock

Play and search for the top 200 rock

Play and search for the top 200 rock songs of each decade then I took the

songs of each decade then I took the

songs of each decade then I took the lyrics of each song and put it in one of

lyrics of each song and put it in one of

lyrics of each song and put it in one of the documents accordingly now when I had

the documents accordingly now when I had

the documents accordingly now when I had when I collected all the words I got

when I collected all the words I got

when I collected all the words I got twenty thousand words of lyrics per

twenty thousand words of lyrics per

twenty thousand words of lyrics per document now that I got all the

document now that I got all the

document now that I got all the collections of lyrics what I did was to

collections of lyrics what I did was to

collections of lyrics what I did was to use and conch which is a linguistic

use and conch which is a linguistic

use and conch which is a linguistic program to analyze this word to analyze

program to analyze this word to analyze

program to analyze this word to analyze this big piles of lyrics so this how

this big piles of lyrics so this how

this big piles of lyrics so this how Aunt Kunka looks and it’s not very

Aunt Kunka looks and it’s not very

Aunt Kunka looks and it’s not very user-friendly but it’s actually really

user-friendly but it’s actually really

user-friendly but it’s actually really simple to use

simple to use

simple to use so what this program can do is to is if

so what this program can do is to is if

so what this program can do is to is if you enter any document in it and search

you enter any document in it and search

you enter any document in it and search for any word it will show you how many

for any word it will show you how many

for any word it will show you how many times and where that word was used so

times and where that word was used so

times and where that word was used so let’s say I used the document of 70s and

let’s say I used the document of 70s and

let’s say I used the document of 70s and I answered the word love and I click

I answered the word love and I click

I answered the word love and I click enter and I get all the times the word

enter and I get all the times the word

enter and I get all the times the word love has been used so I used this part

love has been used so I used this part

love has been used so I used this part of the program to find words that have

of the program to find words that have

of the program to find words that have what I call emotional value now what

what I call emotional value now what

what I call emotional value now what emotional value is is a value that goes

emotional value is is a value that goes

emotional value is is a value that goes from negative 5 to positive 5 negative 5

from negative 5 to positive 5 negative 5

from negative 5 to positive 5 negative 5 being that a certain word can be only

being that a certain word can be only

being that a certain word can be only used in dark violent angry context and

used in dark violent angry context and

used in dark violent angry context and positive 5 being the same thing just the

positive 5 being the same thing just the

positive 5 being the same thing just the opposite well now that I got all this

opposite well now that I got all this

opposite well now that I got all this all this data I just collected them

all this data I just collected them

all this data I just collected them together and got this this is the graph

together and got this this is the graph

together and got this this is the graph of semanas

of semanas

of semanas notice that the blue bar represents the

notice that the blue bar represents the

notice that the blue bar represents the bride happy lyrics while the red bar

bride happy lyrics while the red bar

bride happy lyrics while the red bar represents the dark angry lyrics 70’s

represents the dark angry lyrics 70’s

represents the dark angry lyrics 70’s 80’s 90’s you noticing something and

80’s 90’s you noticing something and

80’s 90’s you noticing something and nowadays well one might ask what the

nowadays well one might ask what the

nowadays well one might ask what the heck does this mean I mean yeah accepted

heck does this mean I mean yeah accepted

heck does this mean I mean yeah accepted the obvious fact that the blue bar which

the obvious fact that the blue bar which

the obvious fact that the blue bar which represents the bright lyrics went down

represents the bright lyrics went down

represents the bright lyrics went down the red bar which is the dark lyrics

the red bar which is the dark lyrics

the red bar which is the dark lyrics went went up will increased it doesn’t

went went up will increased it doesn’t

went went up will increased it doesn’t really say much and that’s what I

really say much and that’s what I

really say much and that’s what I thought when I finished doing this

thought when I finished doing this

thought when I finished doing this research but then I thought well what if

research but then I thought well what if

research but then I thought well what if I try to make my own lyrics what if I

I try to make my own lyrics what if I

I try to make my own lyrics what if I try to use the information I have let’s

try to use the information I have let’s

try to use the information I have let’s say the top words in it used in each

say the top words in it used in each

say the top words in it used in each decade in order to make my own lyrics

decade in order to make my own lyrics

decade in order to make my own lyrics and this is what I came out with in the

and this is what I came out with in the

and this is what I came out with in the 70s we would sing all baby love your boy

70s we would sing all baby love your boy

70s we would sing all baby love your boy and sing this old funky song death is a

and sing this old funky song death is a

and sing this old funky song death is a play that we watch feel it slowly go

play that we watch feel it slowly go

play that we watch feel it slowly go away sounds quite happy although there

away sounds quite happy although there

away sounds quite happy although there is the word death in it this might

is the word death in it this might

is the word death in it this might suggest that actually in the 70s we that

suggest that actually in the 70s we that

suggest that actually in the 70s we that we already had some darkness in raw

we already had some darkness in raw

we already had some darkness in raw music well in the 80s we would sing oh

music well in the 80s we would sing oh

music well in the 80s we would sing oh baby feel my love burned a bad world

baby feel my love burned a bad world

baby feel my love burned a bad world away dream back to our house

away dream back to our house

away dream back to our house Oh burned a bad world away still pretty

Oh burned a bad world away still pretty

Oh burned a bad world away still pretty happy right I mean the word death was

happy right I mean the word death was

happy right I mean the word death was actually gone from the 80s for some

actually gone from the 80s for some

actually gone from the 80s for some reason but overall it’s still quite

reason but overall it’s still quite

reason but overall it’s still quite happy well now we’re gonna go to the 90s

happy well now we’re gonna go to the 90s

happy well now we’re gonna go to the 90s and because this is a TEDx show we are

and because this is a TEDx show we are

and because this is a TEDx show we are gonna have to leave some of the words

gonna have to leave some of the words

gonna have to leave some of the words for your consideration

feel my love die my dreams getting

feel my love die my dreams getting darker and darker fight to kill is my

darker and darker fight to kill is my

darker and darker fight to kill is my heaven f my life well that was quite the

heaven f my life well that was quite the

heaven f my life well that was quite the jump right well now we sing the end is

jump right well now we sing the end is

jump right well now we sing the end is near my love dying with it

near my love dying with it

near my love dying with it bodies of dead feeling alone F good and

bodies of dead feeling alone F good and

bodies of dead feeling alone F good and while you can notice that some aspects

while you can notice that some aspects

while you can notice that some aspects of the lyrics have changed like the

of the lyrics have changed like the

of the lyrics have changed like the usage of words baby and boy some themes

usage of words baby and boy some themes

usage of words baby and boy some themes have stayed with rock music from the

have stayed with rock music from the

have stayed with rock music from the from 70s to nowadays themes like love

from 70s to nowadays themes like love

from 70s to nowadays themes like love and yes also death I still a big part of

and yes also death I still a big part of

and yes also death I still a big part of rock music well why this why did all

rock music well why this why did all

rock music well why this why did all this happen well in the 90s

this happen well in the 90s

this happen well in the 90s there was a big division in rock music

there was a big division in rock music

there was a big division in rock music with subgenres like grunge and punk

with subgenres like grunge and punk

with subgenres like grunge and punk becoming very popular with bands like

becoming very popular with bands like

becoming very popular with bands like Soundgarden Nirvana and Green Day’s and

Soundgarden Nirvana and Green Day’s and

Soundgarden Nirvana and Green Day’s and blink 182 however there was one genre of

blink 182 however there was one genre of

blink 182 however there was one genre of music that was a little bit older than

music that was a little bit older than

music that was a little bit older than the other ones

the other ones

the other ones was darker and more violent than any

was darker and more violent than any

was darker and more violent than any this John dis Chandra is known as metal

this John dis Chandra is known as metal

this John dis Chandra is known as metal Mel music was as I said very loud angry

Mel music was as I said very loud angry

Mel music was as I said very loud angry and was cleared to be very violent was

and was cleared to be very violent was

and was cleared to be very violent was something new something unseen or was it

something new something unseen or was it

something new something unseen or was it right now I’m going to show you a person

right now I’m going to show you a person

right now I’m going to show you a person who is considered to be very dangerous

who is considered to be very dangerous

who is considered to be very dangerous very violent and very angry

very violent and very angry

very violent and very angry you ready now this for the younger

you ready now this for the younger

you ready now this for the younger generation is Elvis Presley who is

generation is Elvis Presley who is

generation is Elvis Presley who is considered by most to be the inventor of

considered by most to be the inventor of

considered by most to be the inventor of rock and roll and I want to ask some of

rock and roll and I want to ask some of

rock and roll and I want to ask some of the adults do you remember what your

the adults do you remember what your

the adults do you remember what your dad’s or your grandparents said about

dad’s or your grandparents said about

dad’s or your grandparents said about Elvis Presley they didn’t feel like it

Elvis Presley they didn’t feel like it

Elvis Presley they didn’t feel like it did it did they well what about these

did it did they well what about these

did it did they well what about these guys well this guy’s was everywhere as

guys well this guy’s was everywhere as

guys well this guy’s was everywhere as there’s so many times and we’re pretty

there’s so many times and we’re pretty

there’s so many times and we’re pretty much the kings of underground illegal

much the kings of underground illegal

much the kings of underground illegal music so there is another question that

music so there is another question that

music so there is another question that comes up why did artists like the bills

comes up why did artists like the bills

comes up why did artists like the bills ac/dc Slayer Metallica use like such bad

ac/dc Slayer Metallica use like such bad

ac/dc Slayer Metallica use like such bad words well you have to understand that

words well you have to understand that

words well you have to understand that they did so because there was a message

they did so because there was a message

they did so because there was a message that couldn’t be sent by just using the

that couldn’t be sent by just using the

that couldn’t be sent by just using the good words and you also have to look at

good words and you also have to look at

good words and you also have to look at the other side of the spectrum because

the other side of the spectrum because

the other side of the spectrum because while these all these bands were making

while these all these bands were making

while these all these bands were making the bad and darker music on the other

the bad and darker music on the other

the bad and darker music on the other side pop music was getting happier and

side pop music was getting happier and

side pop music was getting happier and happier

happier

happier some people argue they got a little bit

some people argue they got a little bit

some people argue they got a little bit too happy so it is true rock music isn’t

too happy so it is true rock music isn’t

too happy so it is true rock music isn’t it getting darker but you have to

it getting darker but you have to

it getting darker but you have to understand that we don’t go and listen

understand that we don’t go and listen

understand that we don’t go and listen to that music and get sad depressed and

to that music and get sad depressed and

to that music and get sad depressed and angry we feel sad depressed and angry

angry we feel sad depressed and angry

angry we feel sad depressed and angry and we listen to that music to relief

and we listen to that music to relief

and we listen to that music to relief ourselves it’s like when you go for a

ourselves it’s like when you go for a

ourselves it’s like when you go for a jog when you feel down or you watch a

jog when you feel down or you watch a

jog when you feel down or you watch a movie when you want to forget something

movie when you want to forget something

movie when you want to forget something it’s like meditation with this one is

it’s like meditation with this one is

it’s like meditation with this one is bad words

bad words

bad words it and it doesn’t mean that the rock

it and it doesn’t mean that the rock

it and it doesn’t mean that the rock artists that make music are all violent

artists that make music are all violent

artists that make music are all violent and depressed they just are open in what

and depressed they just are open in what

and depressed they just are open in what they say and have new messages to send

they say and have new messages to send

they say and have new messages to send dark music didn’t come because people

dark music didn’t come because people

dark music didn’t come because people are getting darker came because there’s

are getting darker came because there’s

are getting darker came because there’s a new message to be sent and as long as

a new message to be sent and as long as

a new message to be sent and as long as people have a message to send they will

people have a message to send they will

people have a message to send they will send it no matter what words they use

send it no matter what words they use

send it no matter what words they use thank you

thank you

thank you [Applause]

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