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Is a robot standing between you and your next job? | Robert Coombs | TEDxBratislava


yesterday was my very first day without

yesterday was my very first day without a job since 1993 I’ve been working at

a job since 1993 I’ve been working at

a job since 1993 I’ve been working at the national nonprofit managing several

the national nonprofit managing several

the national nonprofit managing several teams that I’d grown from the ground up

teams that I’d grown from the ground up

teams that I’d grown from the ground up but now each of those teams was filled

but now each of those teams was filled

but now each of those teams was filled with very very talented people and so

with very very talented people and so

with very very talented people and so the only thing left to do was to just

the only thing left to do was to just

the only thing left to do was to just get out of their way in the nonprofit

get out of their way in the nonprofit

get out of their way in the nonprofit world we often wear many hats I’ve built

world we often wear many hats I’ve built

world we often wear many hats I’ve built or managed web IT government affairs

or managed web IT government affairs

or managed web IT government affairs editorial and PR teams given that

editorial and PR teams given that

editorial and PR teams given that background I figured that my chances in

background I figured that my chances in

background I figured that my chances in the job market we’re gonna be pretty

the job market we’re gonna be pretty

the job market we’re gonna be pretty okay now the last time I had to apply

okay now the last time I had to apply

okay now the last time I had to apply for a job the process was very

for a job the process was very

for a job the process was very straightforward you see a job

straightforward you see a job

straightforward you see a job announcement you write up a cover letter

announcement you write up a cover letter

announcement you write up a cover letter submit it with your resume and then you

submit it with your resume and then you

submit it with your resume and then you just wait to hear back from the company

just wait to hear back from the company

just wait to hear back from the company and so I did just that now I’ve always

and so I did just that now I’ve always

and so I did just that now I’ve always been excited and passionate about

been excited and passionate about

been excited and passionate about technology so I started applying to the

technology so I started applying to the

technology so I started applying to the dreamiest companies like Google and

dreamiest companies like Google and

dreamiest companies like Google and Facebook and slack but as the the

Facebook and slack but as the the

Facebook and slack but as the the applications piled up I found that

applications piled up I found that

applications piled up I found that almost no matter what job I applied to I

almost no matter what job I applied to I

almost no matter what job I applied to I was being met with a resounding silence

was being met with a resounding silence

was being met with a resounding silence it’s easy to get lost to feel lost when

it’s easy to get lost to feel lost when

it’s easy to get lost to feel lost when you’re in a period of transition like

you’re in a period of transition like

you’re in a period of transition like this I’d had a perfectly good job and

this I’d had a perfectly good job and

this I’d had a perfectly good job and I’ve voluntarily walked away from it but

I’ve voluntarily walked away from it but

I’ve voluntarily walked away from it but now I couldn’t seem to convince anyone

now I couldn’t seem to convince anyone

now I couldn’t seem to convince anyone in these companies that a career

in these companies that a career

in these companies that a career nonprofit ear had something to offer

nonprofit ear had something to offer

nonprofit ear had something to offer them I spoke with some folks in HR who

them I spoke with some folks in HR who

them I spoke with some folks in HR who told me that in all likelihood I was

told me that in all likelihood I was

told me that in all likelihood I was probably being filtered out by applicant

probably being filtered out by applicant

probably being filtered out by applicant tracking systems we call him an 80s and

tracking systems we call him an 80s and

tracking systems we call him an 80s and 80s is simply a database of jobs and

80s is simply a database of jobs and

80s is simply a database of jobs and applicants and the more sophisticated

applicants and the more sophisticated

applicants and the more sophisticated versions have automated filters that

versions have automated filters that

versions have automated filters that search through resumes and cover letters

search through resumes and cover letters

search through resumes and cover letters for keywords specific educational

for keywords specific educational

for keywords specific educational background specific work experience it’s

background specific work experience it’s

background specific work experience it’s like a robot so sometimes I was being

like a robot so sometimes I was being

like a robot so sometimes I was being filtered out because I simply wasn’t the

filtered out because I simply wasn’t the

filtered out because I simply wasn’t the best candidate for the job but sometimes

best candidate for the job but sometimes

best candidate for the job but sometimes I thought despite having the kind of

I thought despite having the kind of

I thought despite having the kind of experience that made me a very

experience that made me a very

experience that made me a very interesting candidate maybe I was being

interesting candidate maybe I was being

interesting candidate maybe I was being filtered out because I simply didn’t

filtered out because I simply didn’t

filtered out because I simply didn’t have the specific pedigree that these

have the specific pedigree that these

have the specific pedigree that these companies and these algorithms are

companies and these algorithms are

companies and these algorithms are looking for unless you have a lot of

looking for unless you have a lot of

looking for unless you have a lot of dot-coms on your resume it’s very very

dot-coms on your resume it’s very very

dot-coms on your resume it’s very very difficult to get into the most

difficult to get into the most

difficult to get into the most well-known internet companies these days

well-known internet companies these days

well-known internet companies these days so my chance is to make this transition

so my chance is to make this transition

so my chance is to make this transition many people told me we’re nearly

many people told me we’re nearly

many people told me we’re nearly impossible I had two things working

impossible I had two things working

impossible I had two things working against me one I was up against leaders

against me one I was up against leaders

against me one I was up against leaders in their field so my resume doesn’t

in their field so my resume doesn’t

in their field so my resume doesn’t always jump to the top of the pile and

always jump to the top of the pile and

always jump to the top of the pile and two robots read every application now of

two robots read every application now of

two robots read every application now of course that’s not true for all companies

course that’s not true for all companies

course that’s not true for all companies but it’s certainly true for many of the

but it’s certainly true for many of the

but it’s certainly true for many of the big ones and in fairness I was an

big ones and in fairness I was an

big ones and in fairness I was an unconventional candidate for many of

unconventional candidate for many of

unconventional candidate for many of these companies but unconventional can

these companies but unconventional can

these companies but unconventional can be a very good thing right so I did the

be a very good thing right so I did the

be a very good thing right so I did the only reasonable thing that a person

only reasonable thing that a person

only reasonable thing that a person faced with this challenge can do I

faced with this challenge can do I

faced with this challenge can do I decided that if they were going to use a

decided that if they were going to use a

decided that if they were going to use a robot to filter me out I was going to

robot to filter me out I was going to

robot to filter me out I was going to use a robot to force my way in now of

use a robot to force my way in now of

use a robot to force my way in now of course that’s not actually a reasonable

course that’s not actually a reasonable

course that’s not actually a reasonable thing to do but I was lost and I was

thing to do but I was lost and I was

thing to do but I was lost and I was determined to be found so I together

determined to be found so I together

determined to be found so I together this Rube Goldberg ian’s contraption of

this Rube Goldberg ian’s contraption of

this Rube Goldberg ian’s contraption of web crawlers and spreadsheets and

web crawlers and spreadsheets and

web crawlers and spreadsheets and scripts in order to automate my job

scripts in order to automate my job

scripts in order to automate my job application process it would search the

application process it would search the

application process it would search the web for jobs that I’d be interested in

web for jobs that I’d be interested in

web for jobs that I’d be interested in and then it built out a cover letter

and then it built out a cover letter

and then it built out a cover letter that was customized to the job and

that was customized to the job and

that was customized to the job and personalized to the hiring manager it

personalized to the hiring manager it

personalized to the hiring manager it sent these applications in batches with

sent these applications in batches with

sent these applications in batches with tracking mechanisms built in so that I

tracking mechanisms built in so that I

tracking mechanisms built in so that I could see when emails were opened who

could see when emails were opened who

could see when emails were opened who read my resume and who went and looked

read my resume and who went and looked

read my resume and who went and looked at my LinkedIn profile

at my LinkedIn profile

at my LinkedIn profile it was in no way elegant but it was

it was in no way elegant but it was

it was in no way elegant but it was ruthlessly efficient the very first time

ruthlessly efficient the very first time

ruthlessly efficient the very first time I spun it up I stepped away to get a cup

I spun it up I stepped away to get a cup

I spun it up I stepped away to get a cup of coffee and when I came back I found

of coffee and when I came back I found

of coffee and when I came back I found that I had inadvertently applied to more

that I had inadvertently applied to more

that I had inadvertently applied to more than 1300 jobs in the Midwest now I live

than 1300 jobs in the Midwest now I live

than 1300 jobs in the Midwest now I live in New York City and I had no intention

in New York City and I had no intention

in New York City and I had no intention whatsoever of moving halfway across the

whatsoever of moving halfway across the

whatsoever of moving halfway across the country for these jobs so I did a little

country for these jobs so I did a little

country for these jobs so I did a little bit of refining until the robot was

bit of refining until the robot was

bit of refining until the robot was working with a little bit more precision

working with a little bit more precision

working with a little bit more precision now surely this bot would be massively

now surely this bot would be massively

now surely this bot would be massively more efficient than I could ever be

more efficient than I could ever be

more efficient than I could ever be working just by myself so therefore my

working just by myself so therefore my

working just by myself so therefore my chances of it overcoming the odds that

chances of it overcoming the odds that

chances of it overcoming the odds that were stacked up against me I thought

were stacked up against me I thought

were stacked up against me I thought they were pretty good but an interesting

they were pretty good but an interesting

they were pretty good but an interesting thing happened after thousands of

thing happened after thousands of

thing happened after thousands of applications had gone out

applications had gone out

applications had gone out I saw no better results in the large and

I saw no better results in the large and

I saw no better results in the large and well-known Internet companies then I had

well-known Internet companies then I had

well-known Internet companies then I had when I was applying to jobs manually

when I was applying to jobs manually

when I was applying to jobs manually virtually no success just a whole lot

virtually no success just a whole lot

virtually no success just a whole lot more of it so you may be thinking of

more of it so you may be thinking of

more of it so you may be thinking of course you’re getting rejected you can’t

course you’re getting rejected you can’t

course you’re getting rejected you can’t just send out a form letter and expect

just send out a form letter and expect

just send out a form letter and expect to get a response well I didn’t I had

to get a response well I didn’t I had

to get a response well I didn’t I had built and designed this robot to

built and designed this robot to

built and designed this robot to optimize and adjust to lots of different

optimize and adjust to lots of different

optimize and adjust to lots of different variables using a/b testing the idea was

variables using a/b testing the idea was

variables using a/b testing the idea was I wanted this to act just like an

I wanted this to act just like an

I wanted this to act just like an individual would each application one

individual would each application one

individual would each application one job at a time now as a side note I’ve

job at a time now as a side note I’ve

job at a time now as a side note I’ve since learned that rejection and

since learned that rejection and

since learned that rejection and disappointment can temporarily reduce

disappointment can temporarily reduce

disappointment can temporarily reduce dopamine levels in your brain and reduce

dopamine levels in your brain and reduce

dopamine levels in your brain and reduce dopamine in the brain is associated with

dopamine in the brain is associated with

dopamine in the brain is associated with all sorts of things but one really

all sorts of things but one really

all sorts of things but one really important one which is depression so if

important one which is depression so if

important one which is depression so if you think that it’s sad when you apply

you think that it’s sad when you apply

you think that it’s sad when you apply for a job and it doesn’t come through

for a job and it doesn’t come through

for a job and it doesn’t come through imagine not getting 3,000 jobs

we’ve been told for a very long time

we’ve been told for a very long time that robots would eventually take over

that robots would eventually take over

that robots would eventually take over our jobs but nobody ever told us that

our jobs but nobody ever told us that

our jobs but nobody ever told us that they would be able to bum us out on such

they would be able to bum us out on such

they would be able to bum us out on such an epic level so I continued to run

an epic level so I continued to run

an epic level so I continued to run these a B tests using subtle and not so

these a B tests using subtle and not so

these a B tests using subtle and not so subtle changes in email subject lines

subtle changes in email subject lines

subtle changes in email subject lines and cover letters and so forth but while

and cover letters and so forth but while

and cover letters and so forth but while I saw some variation River in response

I saw some variation River in response

I saw some variation River in response it really wasn’t much it seemed like

it really wasn’t much it seemed like

it really wasn’t much it seemed like nothing made a difference the

nothing made a difference the

nothing made a difference the old-fashioned way of applying to jobs

old-fashioned way of applying to jobs

old-fashioned way of applying to jobs with a thoughtful cover letter and a

with a thoughtful cover letter and a

with a thoughtful cover letter and a resume just seemed tilted against

resume just seemed tilted against

resume just seemed tilted against someone like me someone who didn’t have

someone like me someone who didn’t have

someone like me someone who didn’t have the exact pedigree that those algorithms

the exact pedigree that those algorithms

the exact pedigree that those algorithms were looking for and I realized early on

were looking for and I realized early on

were looking for and I realized early on that this just was not going to be the

that this just was not going to be the

that this just was not going to be the way that I get my next job but now I was

way that I get my next job but now I was

way that I get my next job but now I was really interested I wanted to see just

really interested I wanted to see just

really interested I wanted to see just how badly this system was tilted against

how badly this system was tilted against

how badly this system was tilted against someone like me eventually I decided to

someone like me eventually I decided to

someone like me eventually I decided to just throw the game I ran an a/b test

just throw the game I ran an a/b test

just throw the game I ran an a/b test using a perfectly normal-looking cover

using a perfectly normal-looking cover

using a perfectly normal-looking cover letter and I contrasted that with a

letter and I contrasted that with a

letter and I contrasted that with a letter that admits right in the second

letter that admits right in the second

letter that admits right in the second line that it’s being sent by a robot now

line that it’s being sent by a robot now

line that it’s being sent by a robot now that second letter should either perform

that second letter should either perform

that second letter should either perform much much better than the first or a

much much better than the first or a

much much better than the first or a whole lot worse someone shy to be saying

whole lot worse someone shy to be saying

whole lot worse someone shy to be saying hey I like the cut of this guy’s jib we

hey I like the cut of this guy’s jib we

hey I like the cut of this guy’s jib we should hire him or they should be saying

should hire him or they should be saying

should hire him or they should be saying who the heck does he think he is

who the heck does he think he is

who the heck does he think he is and for my purposes I didn’t care which

and for my purposes I didn’t care which

and for my purposes I didn’t care which I just wanted to see that someone anyone

I just wanted to see that someone anyone

I just wanted to see that someone anyone was paying attention and as far as I

was paying attention and as far as I

was paying attention and as far as I could tell from this experiment and

could tell from this experiment and

could tell from this experiment and others like it the answer is that nobody

others like it the answer is that nobody

others like it the answer is that nobody reads cover letters not even it seems

reads cover letters not even it seems

reads cover letters not even it seems the robots now this was confirmed by a

the robots now this was confirmed by a

the robots now this was confirmed by a number of HR people that I’ve been

number of HR people that I’ve been

number of HR people that I’ve been speaking to a recruiter at Spotify told

speaking to a recruiter at Spotify told

speaking to a recruiter at Spotify told me that they get between three hundred

me that they get between three hundred

me that they get between three hundred and three hundred and fifty thousand

and three hundred and fifty thousand

and three hundred and fifty thousand applications per year is it any wonder

applications per year is it any wonder

applications per year is it any wonder that they have to rely on automation to

that they have to rely on automation to

that they have to rely on automation to deal with that kind of volume and how do

deal with that kind of volume and how do

deal with that kind of volume and how do you stand out from a crowd that’s that

you stand out from a crowd that’s that

you stand out from a crowd that’s that big another recruiter told me that in

big another recruiter told me that in

big another recruiter told me that in his experience roughly 80 to 90 percent

his experience roughly 80 to 90 percent

his experience roughly 80 to 90 percent of the most senior level jobs are never

of the most senior level jobs are never

of the most senior level jobs are never even advertised so how do you get into

even advertised so how do you get into

even advertised so how do you get into that crowd still others told me that

that crowd still others told me that

that crowd still others told me that their companies posted jobs on all of

their companies posted jobs on all of

their companies posted jobs on all of the websites but they only considered

the websites but they only considered

the websites but they only considered referrals and a number of them were

referrals and a number of them were

referrals and a number of them were paying their own employees thousands and

paying their own employees thousands and

paying their own employees thousands and thousands of dollars for referrals who

thousands of dollars for referrals who

thousands of dollars for referrals who went on to get the job now in many

went on to get the job now in many

went on to get the job now in many companies in the United States as many

companies in the United States as many

companies in the United States as many as 30 to 50 percent of hires come from

as 30 to 50 percent of hires come from

as 30 to 50 percent of hires come from referrals and referred candidates are

referrals and referred candidates are

referrals and referred candidates are more than four times as likely to be

more than four times as likely to be

more than four times as likely to be hired than non referred candidates so

hired than non referred candidates so

hired than non referred candidates so maybe those companies should just tell

maybe those companies should just tell

maybe those companies should just tell people if you don’t know someone at this

people if you don’t know someone at this

people if you don’t know someone at this company don’t bother applying go outside

company don’t bother applying go outside

company don’t bother applying go outside get some exercise play with your kids or

get some exercise play with your kids or

get some exercise play with your kids or try and find someone who works at this

try and find someone who works at this

try and find someone who works at this company and meet them because all of

company and meet them because all of

company and meet them because all of those things are going to be infinitely

those things are going to be infinitely

those things are going to be infinitely more effective than applying for a job

more effective than applying for a job

more effective than applying for a job even on our own website in fact some

even on our own website in fact some

even on our own website in fact some people began telling me these dirty

people began telling me these dirty

people began telling me these dirty little secrets things like I don’t even

little secrets things like I don’t even

little secrets things like I don’t even look at people that apply to jobs

look at people that apply to jobs

look at people that apply to jobs anymore I only consider people that I

anymore I only consider people that I

anymore I only consider people that I find on my own while hunting on LinkedIn

find on my own while hunting on LinkedIn

find on my own while hunting on LinkedIn now this person is openly admitting that

now this person is openly admitting that

now this person is openly admitting that they don’t consider people who’ve

they don’t consider people who’ve

they don’t consider people who’ve actively self-selected

actively self-selected

actively self-selected as interested in that company and

as interested in that company and

as interested in that company and interested in that position and instead

interested in that position and instead

interested in that position and instead they go out searching for other people

they go out searching for other people

they go out searching for other people who already have jobs and have shown no

who already have jobs and have shown no

who already have jobs and have shown no interest in their company so that seems

interest in their company so that seems

interest in their company so that seems like a store clerk who leaves a line

like a store clerk who leaves a line

like a store clerk who leaves a line full of customers waiting to checkout

full of customers waiting to checkout

full of customers waiting to checkout and instead is running around the

and instead is running around the

and instead is running around the parking lot asking does anybody want to

parking lot asking does anybody want to

parking lot asking does anybody want to buy something another person told me

buy something another person told me

buy something another person told me that a colleague routinely posted

that a colleague routinely posted

that a colleague routinely posted non-existent senior-level jobs on all of

non-existent senior-level jobs on all of

non-existent senior-level jobs on all of the websites this is strictly to get a

the websites this is strictly to get a

the websites this is strictly to get a pipeline of information about applicants

pipeline of information about applicants

pipeline of information about applicants that were available for poaching they

that were available for poaching they

that were available for poaching they posted the same jobs over and over and

posted the same jobs over and over and

posted the same jobs over and over and over again racking up hundreds if not

over again racking up hundreds if not

over again racking up hundreds if not thousands of applicants information

thousands of applicants information

thousands of applicants information despite not actually having a job to

despite not actually having a job to

despite not actually having a job to offer I’d been applying to jobs that

offer I’d been applying to jobs that

offer I’d been applying to jobs that don’t exist trying to squeeze my way

don’t exist trying to squeeze my way

don’t exist trying to squeeze my way through filters that were built to keep

through filters that were built to keep

through filters that were built to keep people like me out and competing against

people like me out and competing against

people like me out and competing against people who had worked at their

people who had worked at their

people who had worked at their competitors and who are friends with

competitors and who are friends with

competitors and who are friends with their employees and let’s not forget now

their employees and let’s not forget now

their employees and let’s not forget now I’m sad at the same time I heard stories

I’m sad at the same time I heard stories

I’m sad at the same time I heard stories from people who are incredibly

from people who are incredibly

from people who are incredibly passionate about their careers and

passionate about their careers and

passionate about their careers and compassionate for people who are

compassionate for people who are

compassionate for people who are searching for careers one told me I wish

searching for careers one told me I wish

searching for careers one told me I wish that I could sit down over coffee with

that I could sit down over coffee with

that I could sit down over coffee with every single applicant that we get but I

every single applicant that we get but I

every single applicant that we get but I just can’t do that and so instead I

just can’t do that and so instead I

just can’t do that and so instead I never stopped clicking on their profiles

never stopped clicking on their profiles

never stopped clicking on their profiles just in case the next one is like you I

just in case the next one is like you I

just in case the next one is like you I learned about companies that are

learned about companies that are

learned about companies that are creating content management systems for

creating content management systems for

creating content management systems for job applicants sort of like an

job applicants sort of like an

job applicants sort of like an application tracking system to match the

application tracking system to match the

application tracking system to match the applicant tracking system that the the

applicant tracking system that the the

applicant tracking system that the the recruiters use others are creating

recruiters use others are creating

recruiters use others are creating entire referral networks and some of

entire referral networks and some of

entire referral networks and some of them are focusing exclusively on

them are focusing exclusively on

them are focusing exclusively on underrepresented populations I’m still

underrepresented populations I’m still

underrepresented populations I’m still on the lookout for my next job but I can

on the lookout for my next job but I can

on the lookout for my next job but I can say that I’ve had roughly the same

say that I’ve had roughly the same

say that I’ve had roughly the same number of interviews from networking

number of interviews from networking

number of interviews from networking with just a small handful of very

with just a small handful of very

with just a small handful of very helpful contacts as I did when I had a

helpful contacts as I did when I had a

helpful contacts as I did when I had a bot that

bot that

bot that to thousands and thousands of jobs so it

to thousands and thousands of jobs so it

to thousands and thousands of jobs so it turns out that simple networking has

turns out that simple networking has

turns out that simple networking has been hundreds of times more effective

been hundreds of times more effective

been hundreds of times more effective than submitting an unsolicited

than submitting an unsolicited

than submitting an unsolicited application or hitting a click here to

application or hitting a click here to

application or hitting a click here to apply now button so what did I learn by

apply now button so what did I learn by

apply now button so what did I learn by robotically applying to thousands of

robotically applying to thousands of

robotically applying to thousands of jobs well it’s not how you apply it’s

jobs well it’s not how you apply it’s

jobs well it’s not how you apply it’s who you know

who you know

who you know and if you don’t know someone don’t

and if you don’t know someone don’t

and if you don’t know someone don’t bother and also the number of

bother and also the number of

bother and also the number of applications that you put in has no

applications that you put in has no

applications that you put in has no correlation to whether or not you’ll be

correlation to whether or not you’ll be

correlation to whether or not you’ll be considered for a job and you definitely

considered for a job and you definitely

considered for a job and you definitely won’t be considered for the jobs that

won’t be considered for the jobs that

won’t be considered for the jobs that you don’t even get a chance to apply to

you don’t even get a chance to apply to

you don’t even get a chance to apply to but what’s in this for companies what

but what’s in this for companies what

but what’s in this for companies what can they learn from from this experience

can they learn from from this experience

can they learn from from this experience well first the sheer volume of

well first the sheer volume of

well first the sheer volume of applicants that recruiters have to go

applicants that recruiters have to go

applicants that recruiters have to go through coupled with measures like time

through coupled with measures like time

through coupled with measures like time to fill or cost of acquisition I think

to fill or cost of acquisition I think

to fill or cost of acquisition I think that this forces them into an efficiency

that this forces them into an efficiency

that this forces them into an efficiency mode that forecloses opportunities on

mode that forecloses opportunities on

mode that forecloses opportunities on some very interesting candidates also

some very interesting candidates also

some very interesting candidates also transparency is critical

transparency is critical

transparency is critical if you’re a company the hire is almost

if you’re a company the hire is almost

if you’re a company the hire is almost exclusively by referral just say that

exclusively by referral just say that

exclusively by referral just say that you’ll save your recruiters a whole lot

you’ll save your recruiters a whole lot

you’ll save your recruiters a whole lot of time and you’ll do job applicants the

of time and you’ll do job applicants the

of time and you’ll do job applicants the favor of not wasting their time if they

favor of not wasting their time if they

favor of not wasting their time if they don’t already know someone on the inside

don’t already know someone on the inside

don’t already know someone on the inside now I mentioned earlier that I’m in my

now I mentioned earlier that I’m in my

now I mentioned earlier that I’m in my very first days on the job market and

very first days on the job market and

very first days on the job market and whether I was applying the old-fashioned

whether I was applying the old-fashioned

whether I was applying the old-fashioned way or by brute force I couldn’t seem to

way or by brute force I couldn’t seem to

way or by brute force I couldn’t seem to get my foot in the door

get my foot in the door

get my foot in the door however after telling my story a

however after telling my story a

however after telling my story a peculiar thing happened more than 200

peculiar thing happened more than 200

peculiar thing happened more than 200 other job candidates reached out to

other job candidates reached out to

other job candidates reached out to share similar experiences

share similar experiences

share similar experiences dozens of HR tech companies reached out

dozens of HR tech companies reached out

dozens of HR tech companies reached out to me I’ve met with CEOs I’ve spoken at

to me I’ve met with CEOs I’ve spoken at

to me I’ve met with CEOs I’ve spoken at All Hands meetings and now I’m advising

All Hands meetings and now I’m advising

All Hands meetings and now I’m advising a number of companies with HR and

a number of companies with HR and

a number of companies with HR and recruiting products

overall the robot was a complete and

overall the robot was a complete and total failure but in a strange way it

total failure but in a strange way it

total failure but in a strange way it may actually accomplish its task this

may actually accomplish its task this

may actually accomplish its task this project was incredibly fun it gave me

project was incredibly fun it gave me

project was incredibly fun it gave me the chance to to be inquisitive and to

the chance to to be inquisitive and to

the chance to to be inquisitive and to break up complicated processes into

break up complicated processes into

break up complicated processes into achievable steps and to learn new

achievable steps and to learn new

achievable steps and to learn new approaches to old problems but it was in

approaches to old problems but it was in

approaches to old problems but it was in telling my story that the companies that

telling my story that the companies that

telling my story that the companies that I had spent so much time trying to

I had spent so much time trying to

I had spent so much time trying to impress actually became more aware of

impress actually became more aware of

impress actually became more aware of what I’m capable of and they came to me

what I’m capable of and they came to me

what I’m capable of and they came to me now not everybody has the opportunity to

now not everybody has the opportunity to

now not everybody has the opportunity to build a bot that helps them turn the

build a bot that helps them turn the

build a bot that helps them turn the odds in their favor and that’s why the

odds in their favor and that’s why the

odds in their favor and that’s why the most important lesson that I’ve learned

most important lesson that I’ve learned

most important lesson that I’ve learned from job seekers and recruiters and a

from job seekers and recruiters and a

from job seekers and recruiters and a robot is that the job search process is

robot is that the job search process is

robot is that the job search process is incredibly personal and recruiting is

incredibly personal and recruiting is

incredibly personal and recruiting is filled with people who are committed to

filled with people who are committed to

filled with people who are committed to other people

other people

other people but we still need to strive to make this

but we still need to strive to make this

but we still need to strive to make this more human and more humane

more human and more humane

more human and more humane [Applause]

[Applause]

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