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Intergénér@tions, la rencontre | Monique Argoualc’h | TEDxSaintBrieuc


I am a teacher and I believe in

school for me one of the roles of

school is to bring these students there

where they would not go alone I’m going

to talk about unlikely encounters

since 2002 I am a teacher

relay class relay classes home

middle school students so between 11 and 16 years

in school dropout the stall

manifests itself in many ways that

can be out of school altogether going

up to phobia absenteeism

it can also be students who

have civility behaviors

provocation is also the

reports that we often see when he

there are reports on relay boxes

to TV news but it can

to be also students who are

present physically and in a very

great passivity and so who are

silent dropouts so I

works with students who are in

difficulty in whatever they are in

difficulty at school but that puts

also the troubled institution a

coaching in relay class can

last two months three months six months but

it never goes beyond a school year

not to be a plateau

guidance

so every month there are entries and

permanent outings

there are 300 relay classes in France if we

press there are two relay classes and we

we made the choice to operate

timesharing

ie the student at his college

he stays in his college class and

comes two or three half days on

the relay device we made this choice

operating which is a little

particular like that there is no

break with the ordinary class

so that’s important for

teens to be like the others and

in addition it allows us to work

very small groups

three four five students so in a

week I can see twelve young and on

a year between 20 and 25

coaching in class relay that

starts with a first interview

even if it happens he is accompanied

with his mother during the first interview

I always ask the student to

to decline a little bit

school who tells me about how that

happened

so I ask you your school

kindergarten was where he told me no

worry because you have memories

small section average section

good bad memories he tells me

I was bad we go to school

primary declines cp ce1 classes

and there is nothing I was not zero

currently he was in school

educated in 4th

we arrive at the college and there everything from

following he tells me even more void

relay class students have all

singular stories but to

something that is recurrent

I have all these young people that they do not have

they do not have they have a very image

degraded the same they did not

able to build

and finally when we are not able

build and Ben is far away

fold in on yourself or refuse

what to do good if I

reproduce the same things as in the

ordinary classes bassa general the

same effects and will anchor these

good difficulties I’m a teacher

so I have the same goals as my

colleagues and I also have the same

requirements namely acquiring the

common base the project I’m going to you

present tonight that I set up

in my second year of class

relay is the cross between them of

reflection and three first observations

reflections the priority and b that’s

to give a positive image

to these young people so that he

go to new learning

that they take pleasure in learning

so really give them confidence in

them second reflection this is a

conviction it is important to propose

students complex tasks to no

not confused with complicated even though

we are struggling to over simplify

the work keeps the student in

do it realization at the expense

of reflection and suddenly it makes them

dependent on the expert of the one who

know and so that the inks even more

in a form of passivity

wait-and-see so the pedagogical choice

what I did was to propose

students at task tasks

complex and steeped in the real make

for real operating mode

project

and the three observations that led me

brought to propose the first project

finding in society the public

seniors and adolescents do not

meet or hardly any

spontaneously there is no place

and we know that ignorance

generates cliches the rejection so

first constan second finding one is

in 2003 it is said that teenagers

know how to use the internet it sounded

with out

certainly they have skills but they

always do the same things and

third finding the elderly

do not know internet or little gold if

we do not associate them with this mode of

communication is to this culture

digital

they will be further sidelined

of the society

I remember my mother who

was watching his newspaper west france and

who was very annoyed to see these

three w’s still asking me but

what are these three w

so the crossing of these two

reflections of these three findings have

brought to propose the project

intergenerational intergeneration

it’s the meeting between college students

relay classes and people

elderly who are in residence around

of internet the students after a

thoughtful use training

reasoned and constructed of internet

and then an awareness of the

posture of trainers surrender of two

once a week so in the residence

to lead workshops to make

discover internet to explain from

show to the residents we put in

places the first workshops in 2003

so you say you what is that

I was doing with 1.7 in 2003 we were

put in the retirement home the

teulier projects in 2003 during the first

workshop the meeting yet unlikely

to between the elderly

the meeting took place the students have

took their role of trainer very

serious

they had been given a mission

Mission do for real so we the

recognized a knowledge and people

elderly base was delighted to be

interesting for teens in

the more she aim for something other than this

that she usually did at the

residence

they are also able to go

towards novelty what is it when

even reassuring

and then she realized that she

still had a role in education

of these teens the kim is when

even an institution in difficulty

so the project after we will continue the

content of the workshops to evolve into

function of the evolution of the technique

but the operation is still

stayed a little bit like knowing the

students before going to the studio they

prepare activities

he is he founded supports of

training so that’s interesting because

that they put themselves in the shoes of

elderly it changes point of

view and when we change the point of view

it’s still the beginning of

opening when arriving at the workshop which

can accommodate between five and fifteen

elderly the three four five

college students shake hands with all

attendees

and then to older people are

already often installed in front of

computers and so here is it gone

for an hour the students take in

hand the workshop

I forgot to tell you anyway

we are in 2003 when I proposed

intergenerational workshop there was

partners who had said everything about

ok continuation including a director of

residence he said to me I do not mind that

it’s happening in my home a

brest association ended up had

offered to help me to inform

teens

and then the city of brest had

installed in the room in the

residence a room only for the

workshops with computers

this room was opened

after to the public and became a paper

a public access point to the internet

so here we are at the workshop so you

visualize so let’s go for a

steven time today he imported

his internship report he had talked

with jean desse of his internship that the leaf

in plumbing because people when they

you have activities he works in the

building

two days before steven had made his

internship report had said my

amazement when I saw that he had

wrote his internship report in police

in size 36 and he tells me yes yes my

people do not see it well so he had

make this choice

marie louise is already installed marie

luce is in a wheelchair is already

installed it is hardly the

head to look at the screen she has

used to work with roanne

cold settles next to her and

then today she decided to

meet her cousin so she dictates

his email

roanne and the keyboard she looks when

even on the screen because roanne and

spelling is not always lé

shovel eventually the words and roanne

had carefully enlarged

characters take a student who has a

rather hectic school path

enamelled of several tips of

discipline behavioral problems and

at the end of his time to the devices

relay last workshop he tells me

I would like to leave earlier

I want to go to the florist

to buy a rose because I have

want to offer marie-louise in the end

workshop

we hear the elderly who

thank the middle schoolers I hear

gaetan finally say we forget they

are old we talk to them as

friends

finally had with respect anyway

students use methods

active to animate the workshops and

in particular puts the elderly in

production situation

it’s not both use internet

like as consumers it’s

better to be an actor so we proposed

co writing activities and

especially a blog we had opened a

longages blog that were bilingual

French standardized SMS language

this election was pretty funny

because the elderly were

delighted to learn the sms language like

it could not thy their

grandchildren their little backs

children she and college students husband

could enjoy one of the skills

elderly people we were well

sure an exchange of skills the

residence also hosts

retirees who come flowers

different activities

and then we saw these retirees

move paper closer to the access point

public to the internet so from our room

our door is always open

they entered they stayed and they

came back

So we end up with three

generations the very old up

95 96 years old retirees and

college students there the content of the workshops

also

enriched because he had asked for it

are more precise the arrival of networks

social workers the students formed the

seniors use facebook

skype finally and it’s sometimes the student

had to make a presentation

to the whole group and he was obliged

of requests milteau joystick is obliged

to ask a little silence

because well what and where

when I met the pupil’s gaze

I could see that they were taking

measuring posture not always easy

trainer or teacher

realized that people

older rise in skills so we

wanted to do validation of

acquired

college students have created patents

and there the elderly were

quite in the posture of a

not taking what was pressing before

pass the patent and then he was

drily moved the day he was receiving

the patent because they had the

congratulations from the trainer in 2012 the

tablets have arrived and we know we have

quickly seeing that taking control of

tablets was complicated for

the elderly

so we imagined doing a screen

simplified home with icons

bigger shortcuts more obvious

so always with students one when

I say we are always with the

students and suddenly we went

close to engineering students from

telecom bretagne new meeting

improbable because the students

engineers it’s the students for whom

school was a success

college students or it’s a little

complicated so they do not cross too much

so we got closer to the students

engineers we worked very well

we put in place an application that

is called grandpa launcher and in the end I

see the students will tell me

finally they are nice and

even found centers of interest

common

then we continued collaboration on

bought a robot

humanoid in 2014 now is here what to do

with now complex task always with

the students what are we going to do

if it was obvious that nao was going

come to intergenerational workshops

so we got closer to new

students weary of the designers who are

come with us to workshops for

see how now can help

to people in loss

nomi the first exit from now to

intergenerational workshop it was

a big moment

the meeting between na ho and the

seniors a great moment

new encounters

improbable and naos was becoming a vector

of social bond

so we created scenarios for

use now and for setting up

applications we used our

engineering students with whom we had

already had contacts

all these unlikely encounters there

they contributed to these

students find confidence in themselves

they have reinvested in

proposed works we find the desire and

even the taste of learning and they have

changed their relationship to knowledge

so they hung up the days for

take good care of us

we do not feel integrated

and that makes us stall and even

sometimes skid

and when we feel summer

it helps us to move forward and to old

stroke

it helps them

iran no longer respectful

also more

need that one

make happy confidence

at the residence to express himself weave

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Hello

remained calm and if we are

she argues with words

he

fewer students per class in addition

everyone to take

in the welcome

with

no

regain our confidence and want

study

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and so that we are all a job more

to be proud of what cook did

plumber or

bah

and learn that you own pace

done to move forward

person’s body

that’s it

in this weight here

and everything is there

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to see grow without

he grows up

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and common

to be helped

students

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they are

as if

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come

this

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students at all times to say one

tends to teach us

take the time to read

consider them as valid

they know what puts them in check

and let’s do a college together for the

well-being of all

mix generations created from

unlikely dating opportunities

trust help people to

regain confidence in her it generates

a dynamic to be able to create

together and therefore better live together

because to live better together

must do together

in the beginning I said I’m

teacher I rectify I was

teacher until September 1st

now it’s up to you I’m doing you

trust from where you are with your

means with your means

imagine how to create meetings

improbable and especially dare and at the years

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